Red Dead Redemption

[Revalos]

Anyone picking this up next week? I've grown kind of tired of the clan I game with in BFBC2 and that action is getting kind of stale.

I really like the idea of an old west MMO on the console, it feels like something that hasn't been looked at but that seems to be well thought out. Open world, multiplayer posses, good looking single player experience, I don't see much wrong with the concept.

http://www.rockstargames.com/reddeadredemption/

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

I played this at PAX East ,and I can vouch for it's awesomeness. I can't wait to get it.

[Fallen]

I have it reserved. I do hope it isn't exactly a GTA3-4 set in the wild west. Is there a leveling system?

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

I'll post it here for everyone to see! It's similar to Grand Theft Auto but not a wild west clone.

There is leveling, there's also skills and stats that factor into determining whether you hit or miss or kill a target, etc.

There's an honor meter and a fame meter. You get to control whether you're a good guy or a bad guy and the meters adjust.

Some of the content is good solo and some will require a posse. Obviously, there are mounts. Only 16 players are allowed in each lobby though.

[StrayRogue]

Cannot. Fucking. Wait.

[Numbers]

Also played it at PAX East. Pre-ordered it the same day. I didn't even know it had multiplayer until this post.

[Guarrin]

Can't wait. There are two types of online games, Free roam (can form up to 8v8 posse, and just roam around the world, doing objectives/events. Think 16 person MMO), and the more traditional shooter type online game modes (capture the flag, king of the hill, etc).

[Revalos]

OK, glad I wasn't the only one looking forward to this. Shall we prepare to create the PC Posse on PS3? Perhaps a plurality of posse's since I'm not sure if you can mix honorable and dishonorable members in the same group. I hope we don't have the WoW or Star Trek problem with everyone going one side because of how much easier it is than the other.

EDIT: Apparently there is some exclusive content for the PS3 (http://www.joystiq.com/2010/05/14/red-dead-redemption-gets-exclusive-content-on-ps3/) if that sways your choice of console version additionally.

[Methais]

I have it preordered. Won't be actually playing it for a week or two though (PS3 broke, waiting on new one from Sony to get here), but I'll probably rent it on 360 in the meantime. Shit looks fucking epic in every way.


Only 16 players are allowed in each lobby though.

That sucks, I thought free roam would support way more than 16 at once. Hopefully they'll throw in some DLC later that increases it.

[Drew]

I have it preordered. Won't be actually playing it for a week or two though (PS3 broke, waiting on new one from Sony to get here), but I'll probably rent it on 360 in the meantime. Shit looks fucking epic in every way.



That sucks, I thought free roam would support way more than 16 at once. Hopefully they'll throw in some DLC later that increases it.

This is usually server side stuff, they can't host much more than that.

[Ryvicke]

A friend I used to work with at Take 2 says this thing is amazing. Hasn't shut up for weeks.

Also how good is the poster art? I think inspired by The Proposition. Incredible modern western.

[Fallen]

Going to pick it up at midnight tonight. I very much doubt I will play it at that hour, though.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

I'll be playing it on xbox 360, don't own a PS3 yet.

[Fallen]

360 myself as well.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

Was watching a live stream on ustream, then some twat has to post screen caps to the official red dead forums. JUST as he was starting to rob a train, arrrrgh.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

omg, screw the storyline, I am loving free roam.

[Fallen]

Meh. That chick challenged me to a race and I fell off my horse. Turned it off and went to bed after that. I guess I will play more tonight.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

It took me a few tries to beat her.. you've gotta watch the stamina meter. I found not sticking straight to the path but cutting corners/leaping over terrain made it so I could stay ahead and not mess up the stamina too much.

I was out doing a treasure quest and some guy goes tearing by me, stops, hops off the horse and just starts to take a piss. Yellow stream and everything. Hilarious.

[AnticorRifling]

I was out doing a treasure quest and some guy goes tearing by me, stops, hops off the horse and just starts to take a piss. Yellow stream and everything. Hilarious.

He must have the R. Kelly mod pack installed.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

You can do so much awesome shit in this game.

I hogtied three guys and left them out in the open in one of the northern states. A bear came and ate them.

Up next: tying someone to a train track.

[AnticorRifling]

So I read that as "I hotdoged three guys..." I was like I don't even want to know.

[Cephalopod]

So I read that as "I hotdoged three guys..." I was like I don't even want to know.

You haven't lived until you've seen Nikki with a plate of sausage in front of her.

[Fallen]

I'm enjoying this game now. I really shouldn't bitch about the difficulty as I am using the "casual" aim assistance, but the only times I have died it is because I was trying to hogtie someone with six guys standing around blasting me in the face. Fun game, but I think you get way too much health.

[Cephalopod]

I was trying to hogtie someone with six guys standing around blasting me in the face.

This game sounds great.

[Guarrin]

Up next: tying someone to a train track.

I'm assuming you saw the video, and know that unlocks an achievement :)

This game is great. First night was entirely spent playing Free Roam, and unlocking as much as possible.

I played the storyline last night, and it was also surprisingly good.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

God damn bears.

[Asha]

For me, this game hands down beats GTA4 on every single level.
Just standing around and watching stuff tick by makes you realise this game is wayy better.
The physics of bullet impact and corpse rag doll effect makes shooting people so much fun!
Also, something I always love more than anything is the bullet wound decals so you can inspect your accuracy or just plan get kicks on horrificly painful ways to die.

I'm all over this game.

[Drew]

Gamefly sent me Battlefield 2: Bad Company!

[Warriorbird]

An absolute hoot... though notably better on 360.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

Tall Trees is some serious business at night

[Back]

This game is sick. Rockstar has really matured as a gaming company with this epic. Love the genre, the look, the mini games, the story line, the dead eye feature, the environment, free roaming... everything.

[Celephais]

An absolute hoot... though notably better on 360.
Better on 360 than PS3? What's different?

This game is sick. Rockstar has really matured as a gaming company with this epic. Love the genre, the look, the mini games, the story line, the dead eye feature, the environment, free roaming... everything.
Uh... yeah the game is great, but I'm pretty pissed at Rockstar, there are a handful of bugs in it that are showstoppers, they should not have shipped with them. I hogtied this guy, picked him up, and the animation had me pick him up but he stayed on the ground. I then could not get on a horse, put "him" down, pick the real him up, or do anything to get myself unbroken, I had to let myself get killed. I've had a lasso drawn between me and my horse after I got on it, hitched it, and was walking around, just a constant line between me and the horse no matter what I was doing (lasso no longer equiped). I've "fallen" through the ground (teleported me a distance away from where I was).

I haven't played a ton, and I'm sure I'll find more bugs, I'm enjoying the game, but it's absurd that they could release it like this. I haven't played multi-player yet, but I hear there are some bad bugs in that as well (invisible cougars). Saying they've "matured" just because they've put out a game that's a different genre is pretty stupid.

[Back]

Better on 360 than PS3? What's different?

Yes, curious about this as well.




Uh... yeah the game is great, but I'm pretty pissed at Rockstar, there are a handful of bugs in it that are showstoppers, they should not have shipped with them. I hogtied this guy, picked him up, and the animation had me pick him up but he stayed on the ground. I then could not get on a horse, put "him" down, pick the real him up, or do anything to get myself unbroken, I had to let myself get killed. I've had a lasso drawn between me and my horse after I got on it, hitched it, and was walking around, just a constant line between me and the horse no matter what I was doing (lasso no longer equiped). I've "fallen" through the ground (teleported me a distance away from where I was).

Yeah, I finished my first bounty and managed to get locked in the sheriff’s office. It was early in the game so a restart from that point wasn’t so bad.

Nothing as bad as the vampire cure bug from Oblivion...


I haven't played a ton, and I'm sure I'll find more bugs, I'm enjoying the game, but it's absurd that they could release it like this. I haven't played multi-player yet, but I hear there are some bad bugs in that as well (invisible cougars). Saying they've "matured" just because they've put out a game that's a different genre is pretty stupid.

Ok, so you disagree with my opinion and think it’s stupid. NO UR STUPIDERDS!!!!

[Numbers]

Loving the game. I keep getting distracted by hunting though.

Is there any way to turn off the fucking skinning animation?

[Taernath]

Just started playing and am really enjoying it. I still have a GTA mentality though and am sort of proccupied with running down pedestrians and getting into Bonnie's pantaloons.

[Warriorbird]

Skinning animation is terrible.

80 dpi less on PS3.

[Guarrin]

Rockstar is notorious for releasing very very buggy games. I'm amazed they get past 360/PS3 certification.

Having said that, even with the bugs, I'm still having a great time in multiplayer and single player.

[Back]

Saying they've "matured" just because they've put out a game that's a different genre is pretty stupid.

My earlier response did not succinctly address this half-handed criticism of my comment.

I never said that Rockstar has matured as a gaming company just because they’ve put out a game that’s a different genre. Why I say they’ve matured as a gaming company is the stunning detail they’ve put into this game: from visual, to audio, to the script, the gameplay, art direction, music... everything about this game, to me, blows anything else they’ve done out of the water regardless of genre. That they’ve reproduced the genre to the level of detail and faithfulness that they have is even more impressive.

[Guarrin]

Oh and here is an interesting read about the differences between 360 and PS3.

http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2010/05/20/read-red-redemption-ps3-vs-360/

[Celephais]

Skinning animation is terrible.

80 dpi less on PS3.
... DPI? I'm guessing you don't know what that means.

My earlier response did not succinctly address this half-handed criticism of my comment.

I never said that Rockstar has matured as a gaming company just because they’ve put out a game that’s a different genre. Why I say they’ve matured as a gaming company is the stunning detail they’ve put into this game: from visual, to audio, to the script, the gameplay, art direction, music... everything about this game, to me, blows anything else they’ve done out of the water regardless of genre. That they’ve reproduced the genre to the level of detail and faithfulness that they have is even more impressive.

Uh, then you haven't been playing rockstar games lately, they've put plenty of detail into their recent games. Have you played any of the recent GTAs? Or did you just read that you can beat up hookers and assume that's all you do?

[Celephais]

Oh and here is an interesting read about the differences between 360 and PS3.

http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2010/05/20/read-red-redemption-ps3-vs-360/

Thanks, yeah that sucks, still looks great on the PS3, but does make me wish it looked as nice as it does in the 360 shots. I have a feeling my roommate will get it (for the 360), so at least I'll get to side by side compare them if he does.

(I'm going to give WB the benefit of the doubt that he was being pithy and withdraw my 'you don't know what that means'... maybe I'm being too generous)

[Methais]

Skinning animation is terrible.

80 dpi less on PS3.

I rented the 360 one while I waited for my PS3 to arrive (got here 2 days ago yay).

Only difference I noticed was I had to turn the brightess all the way up on 360 to be able to see much of anything at night or in a dimly lit room, which then made bright areas look too bright.

No issues like that on PS3 with the default brightness.

Other than that I haven't noticed any difference in either version.

[Back]

I was driving back to work today, saw a couple of hawks above the treeline, and immediately thought of pulling out my Winchester Repeater and picking them off...

Time to put the controller away for a little while.

[Guarrin]

I just hit a pretty nasty bug in this game, where no Y button prompts will work. Can't skin animals, can't get on the horse, tried resetting and it was still there. I have no problem looking past many of the other, graphical, bugs I've seen since I understand it's a massive world and there are bound to be some errors, but having what is essentially the primary button to interact with anything in game broken is a pretty major bug.

:(

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

Were you in single player or free roam?

I've encountered a few glitches and bugs on xb360 but nothing major and nothing that really interrupted my gameplay.

One thing I have noticed is that in free roam there seems to be a lot less animals, etc as you'd find in single player. That gets under my skin a lot when I have to pretty much camp places just to meet quotas. Very annoying.

Something that has also been annoying to me is the unlock rate for female chars in free roam. I guess I just gripe that I wish they'd not made them 'later level' and more 'as you go' unlocks.

[Guarrin]

I was in single player.

One interesting thing, and I'm not certain if this is as designed, but every time I kill a wolf, I get non-stop spawns. I ran out of ammo the last time I was out there so long. Aside from that, I've had the same problem with animal spawns in multiplayer.

[Warriorbird]

640 'expanded' != 720.

I noticed a definite difference when comparing the 360 to the PS3 when they were near each other. Doesn't mean that the PS3 version is bad. I've been having a great time with the single player.

Only bug I've run into involved a dead guy continuing to stand around post duel.

[Fallen]

SPOILER

I crossed over into Mexico in the story mode. Not sure how much I have left. I need to look at a wiki to see what other ambient quests there are. It seems like i'm missing a bunch.

[Warriorbird]

There's some quests gained solely through wandering at specific times as far as I can tell.

[Fallen]

There's some quests gained solely through wandering at specific times as far as I can tell.

I mean like Sharpshooter, herb gathering, etc. So far I have found the herb one, shooting one, hunting one, and..one other one. Don't remember what that one was, though.

[Celephais]

Hunting, Sharpshooting, Herb gathering and Treasure finding are the ones I've found.

[Numbers]

Some really good info here. Obviously there will be spoilers, but it's got a great hunting and herb map.

http://wikicheats.gametrailers.com/index.php/Red_Dead_Redemption_-_PS3_XB360

I also just crossed into Mexico. I think there's plenty of game left, since the whole northeastern part of the map is still restricted for me.

[Back]

http://wikicheats.gametrailers.com/index.php/Red_Dead_Redemption_-_PS3_XB360

Great link. I only just got the gatling. Been fucking around with one offs and trying to get legendary.

[Shari]

This game is amazing. I don't own PS3 or Xbox but now I'm totally comfortable spending $400 for one game. I played for 3 hours straight at my brother's house. I plan on getting a PS3 since that's what my brother has.

We took turns trying to hog tie a whore and throw her on the train tracks but apparently the townspeople don't take a linking to that much and kept killing us before the train got there.

Can't wait to own this.

[Numbers]

We took turns trying to hog tie a whore and throw her on the train tracks but apparently the townspeople don't take a linking to that much and kept killing us before the train got there.



There's random events that can occur when you're traveling along on your horse. One of them is a whore standing next to a broken down carriage calling for help. When you pull up, a bunch of thugs ambush you. Kill the thugs, and the whore will begin to beg for mercy.

The first couple of times this happened to me, I spared the whore, and she gave me money. The next time I shot her in the head. The next, I hogtied her, and put her on the train tracks. The next time, I lassoed her, drug her behind my horse for a few miles, and then threw her off a cliff. The last time, I hogtied her, carried her to an area that I knew was populated by cougars, dropped her in the middle of a field, and dropped animal bait next to her. It didn't take long for the cougars to come along and kill her. I then shot the cougars and sold the meat, skin, and teeth for a tidy profit.

This game is incredible.

[Back]

There's random events that can occur when you're traveling along on your horse. One of them is a whore standing next to a broken down carriage calling for help. When you pull up, a bunch of thugs ambush you. Kill the thugs, and the whore will begin to beg for mercy.

The first couple of times this happened to me, I spared the whore, and she gave me money. The next time I shot her in the head. The next, I hogtied her, and put her on the train tracks. The next time, I lassoed her, drug her behind my horse for a few miles, and then threw her off a cliff. The last time, I hogtied her, carried her to an area that I knew was populated by cougars, dropped her in the middle of a field, and dropped animal bait next to her. It didn't take long for the cougars to come along and kill her. I then shot the cougars and sold the meat, skin, and teeth for a tidy profit.

This game is incredible.

Proof that this game is superior to GTA in every way.

[pabstblueribbon]

This anything like Gun? Which was also a totally awesome game.

Sure reminds me of it except the multi-player part.

[Shari]

The only thing it has in common with Gun is that its a western, and that its awesome.

My husband played Gun and it was great to watch as a bystander, RDR is even better. So, so much better.

Watched my brother get ambushed by some bandits and in his frenzy of trying to shoot all of them swung the gun around too much without paying attention and shot his horse in the back of the head. Had to shoot them from the ground and when they were all dead, skinned is own horse and then took one standing around that the bandits were riding.

Love this game.

[Cephalopod]

The best glitches. (http://www.oxm.co.uk/article.php?id=19696)

[SHAFT]

I really want to get this but I still haven't scratched the surface with FFXIII yet. I was thinking of trading in FFXIII to get this, should I do that or run through FFXIII first?

[Back]

I really want to get this but I still haven't scratched the surface with FFXIII yet. I was thinking of trading in FFXIII to get this, should I do that or run through FFXIII first?

Don’t waste your time with FFXIII. If you are bored now its only going to get worse.

[SHAFT]

Don’t waste your time with FFXIII. If you are bored now its only going to get worse.

Thanks. I got it when it first came out and played 3 or so hours and it bored the shit out of me. Only FF game I haven't finished and have zero desire to do so.

[Methais]

Thanks. I got it when it first came out and played 3 or so hours and it bored the shit out of me. Only FF game I haven't finished and have zero desire to do so.

If you can make it to the point where you can choose who you want in your party and stuff, the game gets a lot more fun to play.

Everyone says it really starts getting awesome when you get to Gran Pulse, but my PS3 died on me right after I got there and fuck starting over.

That said, whether you hate FF13 or if it's your most favorite thing ever, once you play RDR you seriously won't give a shit about FF or most any other game anymore.

I haven't even logged into WoW since I got RDR. I played GS once (still not sure why) and played some Super SF4 a bit with my friend and that's about it.

[Durgrimst]

If anyone has this on PS3 add my...

Ive never been big into console games online but my name is spdracer152 so if you need more info than that let me know.

[Apotheosis]

I played Red-Dead Redemption when it was called Grand Theft Auto....

Rockstar is a one-trick pony, IMO..

[Numbers]

I found a neat trick to skip the skinning animation and save a bit of time.

Stay on your horse, and walk it slowly to the corpse of the animal you want to skin. Stop your horse so that the dead animal is under your horse and slightly to the left... Positioned in such a way so that when you get off your horse, you're standing directly on the corpse.

Press Y to get off your horse, press Y quickly to skin, and press Y to get on your horse. You'll get all the loot from the animal without doing the animation.

You need to make sure your horse is completey stopped. Basically, if something is blocking you from doing the looting animation, you wont do it, and will just get the loot. You'll notice this happen when looting a person you kill near a wall or other obstacle. For this, you're just using your horse as a portable obstacle.

Edited to add: this method doesn't work too well with fat animals like bears and boars.

[Methais]

I played Red-Dead Redemption when it was called Grand Theft Auto....

Rockstar is a one-trick pony, IMO..

That's typically what I hear....from people who haven't played the game but think they know stuff anyway.

[Methais]

I found a neat trick to skip the skinning animation and save a bit of time.

Stay on your horse, and walk it slowly to the corpse of the animal you want to skin. Stop your horse so that the dead animal is under your horse and slightly to the left... Positioned in such a way so that when you get off your horse, you're standing directly on the corpse.

Press Y to get off your horse, press Y quickly to skin, and press Y to get on your horse. You'll get all the loot from the animal without doing the animation.

You need to make sure your horse is completey stopped. Basically, if something is blocking you from doing the looting animation, you wont do it, and will just get the loot. You'll notice this happen when looting a person you kill near a wall or other obstacle. For this, you're just using your horse as a portable obstacle.

I just park my horse right on the corpse and that usually works.

[ElvenFury]

I finally picked up this game on Wednesday. It's pretty fun so far, although I keep trying to just get lost in the wilderness and kill stuff. Some stupid random drunk guy tried to steal my horse tonight, so I pulled him off and he shot me. Fucker. The random encounters definitely keep you on your toes.

[Celephais]

I finally picked up this game on Wednesday. It's pretty fun so far, although I keep trying to just get lost in the wilderness and kill stuff. Some stupid random drunk guy tried to steal my horse tonight, so I pulled him off and he shot me. Fucker. The random encounters definitely keep you on your toes.

Anytime anyone asks me for a lift, I know I'm about to shoot them in the back of the dome, just slow down near them, let them pull you off, and them promptly blow their brains all over the mane of your horse, loot your hard earned $6, and get back on your horse.

The variety of random encounters isn't as good as it should be, you'll start to recognize them all, I just wish they'd mix it up occasionally (the guy asking for a ride actually wanting a ride). Stranger missions are a bit better.

One of my biggest pet peeves right now is the inability to tell what kind of horse you have, I can't tell if a horse I tame is faster than my current horse until I get it out on the trail, I tamed one and it was like "New items are available at the shop" and I figured it must have been one of the locked $750 horses, but it was slow as shit... so I shot it several times with the buffalo rifle.

[Numbers]

When someone steals your horse, as they're riding away, you can whistle for your horse, and your horse will buck them off. But if you kill the person after that, you lose honor for some reason.

As for horses, there's three top-tier horses. The Kentucky, which is gold and you'll get automatically in the storyline from the Bonnie missions. There's the Hungarian, which is a white horse with a black face that can be found in eastern Mexico (look for the horse pictures on the map.) Then there's the American, which is an all black horse that you can find on the plains near Blackwater.

Stats wise, the horses are:

Kentucky:
Speed: 4
Stamina: 4

Hungarian:
Speed: 3
Stamina: 5

American:
Speed: 5
Stamina: 3

[thefarmer]

Anyone catch the movie that was on the other day? I was flipping channels and caught the last ten minutes or so.

Makes me wish I had a system that could play this... Unfortunately we got the Wii for the family.

[SHAFT]

Anyone catch the movie that was on the other day? I was flipping channels and caught the last ten minutes or so.

Makes me wish I had a system that could play this... Unfortunately we got the Wii for the family.

You can play Red Steel 2! That looks sweet. Monster Hunter 3 looks good too

[Tisket]

When someone steals your horse, as they're riding away, you can whistle for your horse, and your horse will buck them off. But if you kill the person after that, you lose honor for some reason.

Good to know since I keep accidentally shooting my own horse.

[Numbers]

I finished the main storyline last night. The ending was very appropriate, though a bit unexpected. The final few missions were brutally boring, though. You'll know them when you get to them.

I also finished getting all the outfits. But aside from that, I'm kind of bored of the game. It's sandbox, yeah, but not like GTA4 where you could fart around in fast cars in a huge city. Most of the RDR world is empty with nothing to do but hunt and pick flowers. And I've got enough money that I don't even bother skinning animals I kill anymore.

I may give multiplayer a try, but I've heard that gets pretty boring pretty quickly.

[Celephais]

Yeah the single player is starting to get a bit boring for me too, I'm in blackwater. I was complaining to a friend about how money becomes so worthless because of how easy it is to buy the necessities early, and you don't ever find yourself having to restock on anything. And the random encounters aren't really unique. Right now I'm just enjoying murdering lots of buffalo and letting the bodies rot to make indian's cry.

[Numbers]

http://www.hvchronic.com/volume_1/no_2/CryingIndian.jpg

[Methais]

I finished the main storyline last night. The ending was very appropriate, though a bit unexpected. The final few missions were brutally boring, though. You'll know them when you get to them.

I also finished getting all the outfits. But aside from that, I'm kind of bored of the game. It's sandbox, yeah, but not like GTA4 where you could fart around in fast cars in a huge city. Most of the RDR world is empty with nothing to do but hunt and pick flowers. And I've got enough money that I don't even bother skinning animals I kill anymore.

I may give multiplayer a try, but I've heard that gets pretty boring pretty quickly.

Multiplayer is pretty fun, but yeah I can see running gang hideouts 4723804207704 times (there's not much else to do but kill each other or rack up a bounty in town).

Fortunately there's some free multiplayer DLC coming in June with some co-op story mode stuff I think it was.

[Apotheosis]

after trying out this game at a friends, I am pretty much convinced it's worth buying. I will take back the smack I talked about this game. : )

[Methais]

The new Undead Nightmare DLC rocks the house.

I've only been messing with the story mode so far, but it's definitely worth the $10. I like how you have to shoot the zombies in the head to kill them too. You can hit them with 4732894720 body shots and it won't matter.

I'm about to go pwn some multiplayer and see how that is. Anyone with RDR should download this right now. Even if you're at Ebon Gate. Fuck Ebon Gate. Kill old west zombies.

[Warriorbird]

It's pretty quality. Was worth lugging my PS3 to civilization for.

[Asha]

Loved it. Completed it and I don't think I'll play it again.
I loved the bullet decals on bodys too. They should do that more often.