Iron Man 2

[Fallen]

I saw this movie last night and highly, highly enjoyed it. The acting was just as good as the first, with new characters doing a great job of adding to the movie, rather than detracting from it. The special effects and fights scenes are the best I have seen in a comic book movie to date, hands down. The plot was complex. There was a lot going on, and a lot of work in setting up for the upcoming Avengers movie, but this, IMO, kept the movie interesting. The movie could only be hard to follow if you were somehow missing 15 minute stretches of it, or have the mental capacity of a 4 year old. *I* highly recommend the film.

That being said, the critics are shitting all over it. I just can't fathom why. They don't even mention the pacing of the action, quality of the fight scenes, or the excellent FX. Is it just assumed that movies no longer suck in these areas anymore? All they harp on is how there is a lot of different things going on at once. Who the fuck cares? Compared to Transformers 2, it seems like a work of art in terms of dialogue, plot, and directing.

Anyway, TLDR version: It is a lot of fun. Go see it. Critics are retarded.

[TheLastShamurai]

I'm seeing it tonight! w00t!

[Kitsun]

On a scale of 1 to 10? Just how hot was Scarlet playing Black Widow?

[StrayRogue]

First one was much better. This suffered from Transformers 2 syndrome - way too much going on for any of it to have any real impact. They didn't really explore anything very deeply and it just...failed to pop for me.

Acting was good (although Rockwell was totally hammy), action not bad (the end fight was over way too fast), but it's been significantly Disneyfied as well.

The easter-egg at the end wasn't as fun as the last film either.

Not bad. A kid's film though.

[Fallen]

On a scale of 1 to 10? Just how hot was Scarlet playing Black Widow?

Hotter than GP anyway. People in the audience seemed to appreciate her bra-pantie scene.

[peam]

Mickey Rourke adds, at minimum, 3 stars to any film.

[Cephalopod]

Mickey Rourke adds, at minimum, 3 stars to any film.

I'd say a couple of years ago, the complete opposite would be true. (Mickey Rourke removes, at minimum, three stars from any film he was in prior to, oh... 2005.)

Edit to be OT: I can't wait to see this. Too bad it won't be for a while.

[CrystalTears]

That being said, the critics are shitting all over it. I just can't fathom why. They don't even mention the pacing of the action, quality of the fight scenes, or the excellent FX.Aw c'mon, not all critics could be so...


First one was much better. This suffered from Transformers 2 syndrome - way too much going on for any of it to have any real impact. They didn't really explore anything very deeply and it just...failed to pop for me.

Acting was good (although Rockwell was totally hammy), action not bad (the end fight was over way too fast), but it's been significantly Disneyfied as well.

The easter-egg at the end wasn't as fun as the last film either.

Not bad. A kid's film though.Figures. Nevermind Fallen. :D

Anyway, TLDR version: It is a lot of fun. Go see it. Critics are retarded. Critics never seem to like anything.

[StrayRogue]

Critics never seem to like anything.

Except good films.

[CrystalTears]

Except good films.
What was the last "good" film you liked?

[StrayRogue]

Last few films I've seen recently that I liked.

Four Lions.
Hurt Locker.
Shutter Island.
The Road.
Kick Ass.
Moon (which features Rockwell at his best).

[Kitsun]

Aw c'mon, not all critics could be so...

Figures. Nevermind Fallen. :D
Critics never seem to like anything.

I think people need to find a critic with the same taste in movies in order to have any accuracy with predicting how good something is for you. I also believe that watching movies for a living probably changes their perspective. I go to movies to enjoy an hour or two. They're looking for life changing events.

[Baelog]

I saw it Friday morning, and I, for one, can't see how people say "there's too much going on"

Scarlett was smoking hot as Natasha Romanov

Two tributes to the comics with the movie's Briefcase Armor

It's got the Veritable Threat Response Battlesuit! (aka War Machine)

Packed full of humor, drama, and action

The only two things I didn't like was the ending fight scene, which should have lasted...hell, a good 10 minutes longer, and the deus ex machina that occurs when Stark upgrades the Iron Man armor after Fury gives him the trunk.

That being said, for a 2 hour movie, I could have easily enjoyed it if it was an hour longer, or probably even more.

Man I love this movie.

[Clove]

On a scale of 1 to 10? Just how hot was Scarlet playing Black Widow?12.5

[Drinin]

Saw it last night and enjoyed it. They could have removed Scarlet's character and I wouldn't have even noticed; other than being in a skin-tight jumpsuit she didn't really bring anything to the film. I'm hoping they can squeeze and Iron Man 3 in before the Avengers movie.

[Ceyrin]

Speaking of the Avengers movie, it's my impression based on the outcome of the IM2 movie that Iron Man may be in it, but Robert Downy Jr in it as Tony Stark seems unlikely.

[Clove]

Last few films I've seen recently that I liked.

Four Lions.
Hurt Locker.
Shutter Island.
The Road.
Kick Ass.
Moon (which features Rockwell at his best).Be honest. The last movie you really liked was Momma Mia!

Since it really isn't fair to compare apples to oranges what comic-genre action movie have you seen that you like and how would you compare Iron Man 2 to that? Find a fair yardstick. If you can't then we can conclude that you simply don't like movies like Ironman as a class and we can ignore you.

[Clove]

Speaking of the Avengers movie, it's my impression based on the outcome of the IM2 movie that Iron Man may be in it, but Robert Downy Jr in it as Tony Stark seems unlikely.I don't know how likely or unlikely it is, but they left themselves the option. It could be an indication that Robert Downy Jr isn't further obligated to participate and they're being smart and hedging their bets for future movies.

Edit: IMDB has Robert Downey Jr as cast for Iron Man 3 and Avengers so... looks like we can expect his participation in future projects; for now.

[CrystalTears]

The movie was awesome. I totally splooshed about 3 times.

[StrayRogue]

Be honest. The last movie you really liked was Momma Mia!

Since it really isn't fair to compare apples to oranges what comic-genre action movie have you seen that you like and how would you compare Iron Man 2 to that? Find a fair yardstick. If you can't then we can conclude that you simply don't like movies like Ironman as a class and we can ignore you.

You clearly didn't read my list did you?

I'll repeat myself.

Four Lions.
Hurt Locker.
Shutter Island.
The Road.
KICK ASS.
Moon.

[Clove]

You clearly didn't read my list did you?

I'll repeat myself.

Four Lions.
Hurt Locker.
Shutter Island.
The Road.
KICK ASS.
Moon.You clearly didn't respond to my post.

[Parkbandit]

You clearly didn't respond to my post.

Kick Ass is based upon a comic book:

http://csos.movieset.com/download/movieset/o/b/old/kickass_cover.jpg

As is Iron Man..

Apples to apples. A fair yardstick.

[StrayRogue]

You clearly didn't respond to my post.

Are you mental?

Kick Ass is a comic-book movies based on a comic-book which is itself based on comic-book heroes. You can't get anymore COMIC BOOK than Kick Ass.

Iron Man 2 wasn't bad. It wasn't as good as the first. If you like brainless popcorn movies you'll enjoy it. If you like nuanced, original or thought provoking, you won't enjoy it as much.

[StrayRogue]

Kick Ass is based upon a comic book:

http://csos.movieset.com/download/movieset/o/b/old/kickass_cover.jpg

As is Iron Man..

Apples to apples. A fair yardstick.

What he said.

[Clove]

Kick Ass is based upon a comic book:

http://csos.movieset.com/download/movieset/o/b/old/kickass_cover.jpg

As is Iron Man..

Apples to apples. A fair yardstick.No shit sherlock, I'm aware of that and that was only part of my post.



Since it really isn't fair to compare apples to oranges what comic-genre action movie have you seen that you like and how would you compare Iron Man 2 to that?Bolded and italicized for old eyes. I was looking for specifics from the grand critic.

[StrayRogue]

Since it really isn't fair to compare apples to oranges what comic-genre action movie have you seen that you like and how would you compare Iron Man 2 to that?

Kick Ass.

[Clove]

Kick Ass.Ironman 2 was kick ass? Awesome.

[CrystalTears]

If you like brainless popcorn movies you'll enjoy it. If you like nuanced, original or thought provoking, you won't enjoy it as much.So all comic book based movies have to be thought provoking to be good and/or worth watching?

Although I am curious what was great about Kick Ass in comparison to Iron Man 2. I haven't seen Kick Ass yet so I'm genuinely curious.

[Parkbandit]

No shit sherlock, I'm aware of that and that was only part of my post.

Bolded and italicized for old eyes. I was looking for specifics from the grand critic.

Seriously? Are you really going to try to defend yet another stupid post of yours?

Strayrogue stated that he liked "Kick Ass"... which is based upon a comic better than Iron Man.

You didn't read that.. or you weren't aware that Kick Ass was that type of genre... but instead of posting "Oh yea", you are now going into your typical defensive posture that makes no sense.

But really.. please continue. Reading your "DEFENSIVE ARMOR UP" posts are hilarious. The only thing missing is for CT to extend her shields to help...

[Parkbandit]

:rofl:

[Clove]

Are you mental?

Kick Ass is a comic-book movies based on a comic-book which is itself based on comic-book heroes. You can't get anymore COMIC BOOK than Kick Ass.No, I'm not mental. Can you respond to more than one statement or question in a post or do we have to do this? I ask you multiple questions. You respond to one. I say you didn't answer all my questions. You go LOLZ!!11!! RU stupid? Then you answer the second one. etc.


Iron Man 2 wasn't bad. It wasn't as good as the first. If you like brainless popcorn movies you'll enjoy it. If you like nuanced, original or thought provoking, you won't enjoy it as much.Fair enough but some comics are "nuanced, thought-provoking" works and some are more focused on less complicated entertainment. You didn't really expect Ironman or Ironman 2 to be the former did you?

[StrayRogue]

So all comic book based movies have to be thought provoking to be good and/or worth watching?

Although I am curious what was great about Kick Ass in comparison to Iron Man 2. I haven't seen Kick Ass yet so I'm genuinely curious.

No. I said enjoy as much. I prefer my films to be more thought-provoking and...well meaningful. Some can do it. Most don't. Most don't even try.

Kick Ass was like a breath of fresh air, sort of like how Batman Begins was to the Batman genre. It was still a comic-book movie - it's very bright etc, but it has a darkness to it that Iron Man 2 cannot compare to. Plus Kick Ass is also hilariously funny.

[Clove]

Seriously? Are you really going to try to defend yet another stupid post of yours?Seriously? No he didn't compare Kick Ass to Ironman 2 directly until I after I asked him to. Twice. He included Kick Ass on a list of movies in response to CT's query on what movies he has enjoyed recently.

Your trolling for entertainment via belittling is pathetic (not to mention childish), even for an old man. :love:

[TheLastShamurai]

I liked it.

The only thing I was a little down about was the way they took the Rourke out. I was kinda hoping for some super sized unibeam from his new chest piece.

[StrayRogue]

No, I'm not mental. Can you respond to more than one statement or question in a post or do we have to do this? I ask you multiple questions. You respond to one. I say you didn't answer all my questions. You go LOLZ!!11!! RU stupid? Then you answer the second one. etc.

This is the response of someone who has clearly been beaten.

You asked me one question. You wanted to know if I liked any recent comic-book action movie. I answered. Kick Ass is a comic-book movie along a vein similar to Iron Man 2. I found it superior. I enjoyed it. As PB said, apples to apples.

My bet is you didn't know what Kick Ass was and now you're back-pedaling.

You display the behaviour of number one on this list:
http://www.cracked.com/funny-3809-internet-argument-techniques/



Fair enough but some comics are "nuanced, thought-provoking" works and some are more focused on less complicated entertainment. You didn't really expect Ironman or Ironman 2 to be the former did you?

I felt Iron Man was more nuanced and thought provoking than Iron Man 2. Hence why I didn't like it...isn't that kind of what I've been saying now for about 5 posts?

[Clove]

This is the response of someone who has clearly been beaten.

You asked me one question. You wanted to know if I liked any recent comic-book action movie. I answered. Kick Ass is a comic-book movie along a vein similar to Iron Man 2. I found it superior. I enjoyed it. As PB said, apples to apples.

My bet is you didn't know what Kick Ass was and now you're back-pedaling.

You display the behaviour of number one on this list:
http://www.cracked.com/funny-3809-internet-argument-techniques/If you say so. Technically you're correct I asked one question with two parts. You answered the first, not the second. I didn't ask which comic movies had you seen recently that you liked. You're confusing my question with CT's. Your list was in response to CT and no I didn't really read it because she was asking a different question, which was "what recent movies have you liked"; different from mine which was:



Since it really isn't fair to compare apples to oranges what comic-genre action movie have you seen that you like and how would you compare Iron Man 2 to that? Here was your opening to say Kick Ass, Batman Begins etc and give us your in-depth skillful analysis. Imagine my surprise when you took the LOLOLOLOLLLERS UR stoopid, path instead.

I felt Iron Man was more nuanced and thought provoking than Iron Man 2. Hence why I didn't like it...isn't that kind of what I've been saying now for about 5 posts?Honestly I'm not sure. Are you saying you don't consider a movie of good quality unless it is nuanced and thought-provoking? It can't just be a simple, entertaining comic-action movie?

[StrayRogue]

Simply, if you'd read my list (or more accurately knew about the films on the list, specifically Kick Ass) you would not have had to ask me.

"how would you compare Iron Man 2 to that?"

Again, the answer is in the list. I thought Iron Man 2 wasn't as good.

So yeah, u r stoopid.

[Clove]

Simply, if you'd read my list (or more accurately knew about the films on the list, specifically Kick Ass) you would not have had to ask me.

"how would you compare Iron Man 2 to that?"

Again, the answer is in the list. I thought Iron Man 2 wasn't as good.

So yeah, u r stoopid.You keep saying that but it wasn't until you were asked the same question twice that you gave me an actual detailed comparison- so who's stupid?

[StrayRogue]

Most people don't need to ask questions when the answer is there to see.

But yeah, anyway, it's plain you've made a fool of yourself here. Keep up the good work.

Oh and go and see Kick Ass. It's...kick ass.

[Parkbandit]

Seriously? No he didn't compare Kick Ass to Ironman 2 directly until I after I asked him to. Twice. He included Kick Ass on a list of movies in response to CT's query on what movies he has enjoyed recently.

Your trolling for entertainment via belittling is pathetic (not to mention childish), even for an old man. :love:

Holy shit.. defensive posture + hypocrasy. Same shit from the same source.

Good to see you played this exactly how I said you would...

[QUOTE=Parkbandit;1103015]
But really.. please continue. Reading your "DEFENSIVE ARMOR UP" posts are hilarious. /QUOTE]

[Danical]

@Stray

What did you think of The Watchmen?

[StrayRogue]

Weirdly it suffered by being too close to the original text. I'm sure there were some moments where people who hadn't read the book didn't know what the fuck was going on.

To talk about Kick Ass again, I feel that did a better job at adapting the comic into an enjoyable film. It took many liberties on the original story/details, but each change was made to make the film better. Watchmen could have done with the same approach.

[Baelog]

I haven't seen Kick-Ass yet, but c'mon...Iron Man wins. And wins big.

http://www.comicsbulletin.com/news/images/0805/IronManVivaLasVegas01.jpg

[Clove]

Holy shit.. defensive posture + hypocrasy. Same shit from the same source.Whatever. This defense of yours is as old and tired as you (oh, and childish as well). "I know you are but what am I" is cute until you see some 40-something constantly use it for justification of his own pathetic behavior. Carry on. Oh and you spelled hypocrisy incorrectly (you'd think as often as you throw the word around at your age, you'd have it memorized).

[Clove]

Most people don't need to ask questions when the answer is there to see.

But yeah, anyway, it's plain you've made a fool of yourself here. Keep up the good work.

Oh and go and see Kick Ass. It's...kick ass.And I would think someone with your intelligence would have picked up on the intent of a pretty direct question. Name a (some) comic genre movies you enjoyed AND compare them to Iron Man 2.

That being said I have to agree that IM2 didn't have the same subtle nuances IM did, but I will disagree that it wasn't as thought provoking. While I was watching IM2 I was asking myself what would I do in Tony Stark's position? Would I continue to use a suit that I thought was helping keep peace AND making me a rock-star even if using it was accelerating my own demise? Granted he was dying anyway but Jarvis told him using the suit was killing him quicker. If I invented and produced something so singularly unique, useful and powerful would I just give it away to the government? And what about Stark's brilliance vs. his horribly flawed character... just because Stark was the mind behind the suit, did it require him to be its soul? Or would someone like Rhodey be a better choice. They touched this last idea in the previous movie but I think they definitely developed it more in IM2.

Ultimately I agree with you, thought-provoking, original, subtle "nuanced" movies are better in general but because "better thans" exist or something isn't the best or as good as it could be; in other words simply because you can see things to be improved, doesn't mean you can't call it good. And for a simple comic-genre action movie I think Iron Man 2 delivered just fine. It sure as hell wasn't Ang Lee's Hulk.

Whoa to the gourmet who can't appreciate a simple cheeseburger.

[StrayRogue]

I really liked Hulk. Certainly better than the shitty remake.

[Parkbandit]

Whatever. This defense of yours is as old and tired as you (oh, and childish as well). "I know you are but what am I" is cute until you see some 40-something constantly use it for justification of his own pathetic behavior. Carry on. Oh and you spelled hypocrisy incorrectly (you'd think as often as you throw the word around at your age, you'd have it memorized).

:rofl:

I know you are but what am I? YOU are the one that accused me of "trolling for entertainment via belittling is pathetic".. right after you claimed I had "old eyes" and right before you claimed it was "childish" and that I was an "old man".

Carry on though.. this turned out better than I predicted.

[Parkbandit]

And I would think someone with your intelligence would have picked up on the intent of a pretty direct question. Name a (some) comic genre movies you enjoyed AND compare them to Iron Man 2.


If you had actually read his list of movies he recently enjoyed, and knew that "Kick Ass" was based upon a comic book.. then why did you post this?


Since it really isn't fair to compare apples to oranges what comic-genre action movie have you seen that you like and how would you compare Iron Man 2 to that? Find a fair yardstick. If you can't then we can conclude that you simply don't like movies like Ironman as a class and we can ignore you.

Notice how you asked for a comic-genre action movie.. as if he hadn't listed one?

Notice how you asked that he find a "fair yardstick"? Wouldn't "Kick Ass" be that fair yardstick?

Why didn't you simply post "I see you mentioned you liked Kick Ass. What did you like about that movie that you didn't like about Iron Man".

This boils down to:

1) You didn't read through his list.
2) You didn't know "Kick Ass" was based on a comic book.
3) You didn't communicate effectively at all.

Instead of simply admitting to either 1, 2 or 3.. you did what you always do.. defend a poor argument with a poor defense.

We call that "Pulling a Tsa'ah" on these boards... but maybe we should start calling that "Pulling a Clove" since you do it with such regularity... it's recognized before it even begins.

[Baelog]

Tsa`ah* not Tsa'ah

:bigsmile:

[Stunseed]

I really liked Hulk. Certainly better than the shitty remake.

Eric Bana played a HORRIBLE Hulk, to me. Ed Norton in both movies, yes plz.

[Clove]

Eric Bana played a HORRIBLE Hulk, to me. Ed Norton in both movies, yes plz.He's hopeless.

This review sums it up for me:


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/10/31/DD153299.DTL

Director Ang Lee breaks the action-movie mold in "Hulk." In an attempt to make a summer blockbuster for the thinking person, he's created a comic-book extravaganza that doesn't pound and smash its way onto the screen, but eases its way in. There's no adrenaline-pumping opening sequence. Characters are introduced. The story is laid out. Time is taken. And then, and only then, does the guy turn into a green giant and start smashing things.

It's a beautiful effort, literally so, one of the most gracefully shot films one could hope to see. Adding to an overall sense of substance, Lee directs the performances away from the slightest tinge of postmodern archness and even brings in Jennifer Connelly, whose lovely gray eyes keep welling up with tears, as though this were "A Beautiful (Green) Mind." Yet, for all that, this is a thinking person's movie with precious little for anyone to think about, except for a green giant smashing things.

That's the epic battle going on in "Hulk" -- not a naked freakish muscleman fighting tanks and helicopters but a gifted director wrestling the blockbuster form, trying to shape it into a vehicle for his own vision and values. In the end, Lee has to settle for a draw. His film is more thoughtful and pleasing to the eye than any blockbuster in recent memory, but its epic length comes without an epic reward.

Based on the Marvel Comics series, which started in the '60s, "Hulk" brings together in a single tale an amalgam of anxieties, profound and banal. It all looks real, which for an action movie is the ultimate standard, but Lee tries to go beyond verisimilitude. He tries to lend the action scenes a sense of personal drama, and he succeeds in the sequence in which Hulk, escaping from a military facility, is attacked by Army helicopters in the desert.

But eventually the personal side is lost and all that's left is a big noise.

Though "Hulk" is overlong and uneven, Lee's technique is stunning. In "Hulk, " Lee employs split screens, on and off, throughout, sometimes to show two locations, at other times to show two angles on the same scene Without a doubt, it's an artistic advance, and one can only imagine the use Lee might make of it in a more substantive movie.

This is the sort of Iron Man 2 StrayRogue would have made. In art especially one size/technique does not fit all.

[Clove]

:rofl:

I know you are but what am I? YOU are the one that accused me of "trolling for entertainment via belittling is pathetic".. right after you claimed I had "old eyes" and right before you claimed it was "childish" and that I was an "old man".

Carry on though.. this turned out better than I predicted.As predictable as your pathetic, childish and pointless contributions.

[Clove]

This boils down to:

1) You didn't read through his list.
Ding ding ding ding! I already admitted I didn't read the list carefully enough. Thanks captain obvious. I still asked him to tell us how Iron Man 2 compared to a comic-genre movie he liked. He chose to ignore that half of my question, just as you are. Childish and pathetic.

[Ceyrin]

:rofl:

Pwnd.

[StrayRogue]

This is the sort of Iron Man 2 StrayRogue would have made. In art especially one size/technique does not fit all.

That review is actually pretty positive, you realise?

I'm a big fan of Eric Bana. A big fan of the editing style used in Hulk. The end is....muddled, yes, but as a film, it's far less generic than EN's worthless effort.

Anyway, you'd be totally wrong (because you're an idiot - as proven here) as to how I'd approach making such a film. Films can be thought-provoking and exciting, no less in the Super Hero medium. Dark Knight, X-Men 2, Kick Ass: all are solid examples of this.

Ultimately were I to make such a film, everything on screen would be there to serve the story. Iron Man 2's story IMO was muddled, convoluted and a bit drab.

It's quite hilarious how you're trying to win this little argument, despite the obvious fuck-up you've made.

[Danical]

I really liked X-Men2 and I still curse the day X3 was ever green-lighted.

But then, I'm pretty ridiculously partial to Nightcrawler - I find his background to be the most compelling for me.

[StrayRogue]

I really liked X-Men2 and I still curse the day X3 was ever green-lighted.

But then, I'm pretty ridiculously partial to Nightcrawler - I find his background to be the most compelling for me.

X-Men 2 blew me away that year. Absolutely perfect balance of story, action & character.

X3 was a totally heap of shit by comparison.

[Danical]

X-Men 2 blew me away that year. Absolutely perfect balance of story, action & character.

X3 was a totally heap of shit by comparison.

100% agree.

[BriarFox]

Yeah, so, ignoring the last few pages, Iron Man 2 was pretty awesome. Not thought provoking, but a lot of fun. I liked the introduction of War Machine and their dynamic. Scarlett wasn't as bad as people suggested, though she was a rather bland character. Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury was pretty successful. There were good semi-villains, with the senator and Hammer, and you just loved to hate them. The real villain, Whiplash/Rouke, was faaaarr better than I expected after how ridiculous the comic version of Whiplash was.

Overall, really fun movie.

[Clove]

That review is actually pretty positive, you realise?I do realize the review gives Ang Lee credit for his great skill, while at the same time criticizing him for misplacing it. Hulk was beautiful and I'm a massive fan of Connelly's acting. Unfortunately like haut cuisine at a children's birthday party- it just didn't fit.


I'm a big fan of Eric Bana. A big fan of the editing style used in Hulk. The end is....muddled, yes, but as a film, it's far less generic than EN's worthless effort.Entertaining in a format that is more natural to the genre is hardly a "worthless effort"



Anyway, you'd be totally wrong (because you're an idiot - as proven here) as to how I'd approach making such a film. Films can be thought-provoking and exciting, no less in the Super Hero medium. Dark Knight, X-Men 2, Kick Ass: all are solid examples of this.

Ultimately were I to make such a film, everything on screen would be there to serve the story. Iron Man 2's story IMO was muddled, convoluted and a bit drab.

It's quite hilarious how you're trying to win this little argument, despite the obvious fuck-up you've made.Glad I'm keeping you entertained. Glad you can actually make some points beyond "LOLLLLER you didn't read the list!!1!!!!11!" Also glad you didn't deny that "Momma Mia!" was the last movie you really liked.

But then, I'm pretty ridiculously partial to Nightcrawler - I find his background to be the most compelling for me.x1000 (Plus I always hated the Dark Phoenix plot)

Yeah, so, ignoring the last few pages, Iron Man 2 was pretty awesome. Not thought provoking, but a lot of fun. I liked the introduction of War Machine and their dynamic. Scarlett wasn't as bad as people suggested, though she was a rather bland character. Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury was pretty successful. There were good semi-villains, with the senator and Hammer, and you just loved to hate them. The real villain, Whiplash/Rouke, was faaaarr better than I expected after how ridiculous the comic version of Whiplash was.

Overall, really fun movie.
They could have written more depth for Black Widow and Scarlett could have done more with the role, but I don't think they had great expectations. I really think they're just trying to give people tastes of the Avengers' characters to whet people's appetites and so they don't have to start quite from scratch when they eventually do the movie. The brief glimpses they provided (like when Scarlett flattened Happy) was cool enough in my opinion and definitely has me looking forward for more.

I really enjoyed Samuel's scenes as Fury and loved hating Hammer too. Whiplash was about what I expected from Rourke (and better than the comic version in my opinion). Like another previously posted the ending battle with him ended too abruptly for me though. He had this huge buildup and then *poof* it seemed like his defeat came far too easily. Iron Man struggled more with his drones than Whiplash :(.

[Parkbandit]

Ding ding ding ding! I already admitted I didn't read the list carefully enough. Thanks captain obvious. I still asked him to tell us how Iron Man 2 compared to a comic-genre movie he liked. He chose to ignore that half of my question, just as you are. Childish and pathetic.

For a quick refresher.. I pointed this out to you right from the beginning:


Kick Ass is based upon a comic book:

http://csos.movieset.com/download/movieset/o/b/old/kickass_cover.jpg

As is Iron Man..

Apples to apples. A fair yardstick.

Hell, I even posted a picture for you to understand it easier. Like I already said.. instead of you simply saying "Oh yea, I see it now", you chose to act like an 8 year old child who digs his heals in, proclaiming that everyone else is wrong and that he is right. Defensive shields went up and you made a complete fool out of yourself once again for 5+ pages.

I do love how you are playing this off as "I already admitted to it"... which is hilarious.

Thanks for the entertainment kid. You played your part exactly how I knew you would... the way you always do.

[Clove]

Thanks for the entertainment kid. You played your part exactly how I knew you would... the way you always do.Aw I'm touched that I could provide you with some entertainment and comfort in the form of consistency. I know how difficult it is for old men who are losing control of their faculties to accommodate changes.

And you're right, all along I was interested in proving that StrayRogue didn't like comic movies; that's why I asked him to compare one he liked with one he didn't.

You played your part exactly how I expected you to, too. I wish I could say it was more entertaining (instead of childish and pathetic).

[Lumi]

The easter-egg at the end wasn't as fun as the last film either.

They can't all be Sam Jackson :)


I saw it Friday morning, and I, for one, can't see how people say "there's too much going on"

Scarlett was smoking hot as Natasha Romanov
...
The only two things I didn't like was the ending fight scene, which should have lasted...hell, a good 10 minutes longer, and the deus ex machina that occurs when Stark upgrades the Iron Man armor after Fury gives him the trunk.

That being said, for a 2 hour movie, I could have easily enjoyed it if it was an hour longer, or probably even more.

Man I love this movie.

Agreed on all counts.


I liked it.

The only thing I was a little down about was the way they took the Rourke out. I was kinda hoping for some super sized unibeam from his new chest piece.

Agreed, again.

The problem I had with Rourke's character is that they basically melded Whiplash and the Crimson Dynamo, two of Iron Man's classic villains, into one character, but then gave most of the thematic focus and screen time to the lamer one. As people here have said, the final battle should have been way longer than it was...partly because it's the final battle of a comic book movie, and partly because Crimson Dynamo (or any villain in a comparable powered armor suit, i.e. Iron Monger from the first IM) is much better suited for an epic knock-down-drag-out than a relatively unarmored, unenhanced dude with a fancy whip.

tl;dr version: IM2 was awesome, Rourke was great but his death scene was too short.

[nub]

I hated the Black Widow in this movie... all scarlet joe-hanson did was punch and kick then fall to the ground with one leg bent, the other out stretched, looked down, then up and stared at the camera.... she did that about 4x-5x that movie. It pissed me off.

[Inspire]

Just got back! It was a good movie. Stay after the credits for a sneak peek.

Worth the money in the theater.

[Baelog]

Yay for after-credit sequences involving mystical artifacts of tremendous power made of Uru

[Gan]

Going to see it this week, inspite of all the insipid arguments over being 'avant garde' about comic book movies.

I will enjoy it too.

[SHAFT]

thor was in a jail cell as tony is walking to ivan's cell

[Allereli]

Saw it last night, it was solid and entertaining. I liked it more than Kick Ass, which I thought could have been a half hour shorter.

[Kithus]

Thinking of going to see this. So to sum this whole thread up, everyone liked Iron Man 2. The only exceptions being two people who I basically disagree with about everything. One of which would argue with world peace just for something to argue about. That cover it?

[StrayRogue]

Thinking of going to see this. So to sum this whole thread up, everyone liked Iron Man 2. The only exceptions being two people who I basically disagree with about everything. One of which would argue with world peace just for something to argue about. That cover it?

Who disliked it?

[Parkbandit]

Thinking of going to see this. So to sum this whole thread up, everyone liked Iron Man 2. The only exceptions being two people who I basically disagree with about everything. One of which would argue with world peace just for something to argue about. That cover it?

I haven't even seen the movie yet.. I see it tomorrow. You should actually try reading once in a while, instead of just assuming.

[Asha]

Yeah see it. It's got nearly the same thrill as the first (as much as it could since it's been done in the last movie) and plenty of gags which Downy just excels at.
Even a few funny moments from actors you wouldn't have thought could.
Rourke is awesome.
Great all round film.

[nub]

Rourke didn't really do that much in this movie, yes he was good for the part, not sure how he was awesome besides looking awesome.

I wasn't wowed by his acting. I like Iron Man's fat friend though, he was pretty funny.

[StrayRogue]

Rourke didn't really do that much in this movie, yes he was good for the part, not sure how he was awesome besides looking awesome.

I wasn't wowed by his acting. I like Iron Man's fat friend though, he was pretty funny.

His bodyguard. Who is also the director.

[Gan]

Left work early and saw it with a friend.


Fucking awesome!

Definitely going to see it again with my son. And I'll add it to my DVD/Blu Ray collection.

[Danical]

His bodyguard. Who is also the director.

I have it on good authority he is money.

[Sean]

I have it on good authority he is money.

I have it on an even higher authority that he doesn't even know it.

[iJin]

Saw it last night. Pretty cool.

[Danical]

I have it on an even higher authority that he doesn't even know it.

win!