Time Square bomber = Arab surprise surprise

[sst]

Looks like it was the Pakistani Taliban after all. Wish I could have seen his face... all happy to get away.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/05/04/new.york.car.bomb/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1

Edit: Good job on the police work. I'm sure the Patriot act allowed for more streamlined FISA coverage witch allowed for the capture.

[Sean of the Thread]

The post says they've got leads on others tied to it and are going to fuck them up.

[Parkbandit]

Well damn... Mayor Boomberg was wrong when he thought it was a home grown terrorist upset at Obamacare. I mean, who could have predicted that a car bomb was made by a crazy ass Muslim.

[Sean of the Thread]

I just learned that my hometown split off from the neighbororing town back in the day and it was divided between Syrians, Libyans and Italians in one town and all of us protestants in the other.


We're on level red alert here in the village.

[BigWorm]

Looks like it was the Pakistani Taliban after all. Wish I could have seen his face... all happy to get away.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/05/04/new.york.car.bomb/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1

Edit: Good job on the police work. I'm sure the Patriot act allowed for more streamlined FISA coverage witch allowed for the capture.

Witch part of the Patriot Act are you talking about?

[Parkbandit]

Is this some witch hunt?

[Keller]

http://is1.okcupid.com/users/308/942/3089425966712595139/mt1102960316.jpg

[BigWorm]

Is this some witch hunt?

I've got to give you props for that comment witch you deserve.

[Parkbandit]

I've got to give you props for that comment witch you deserve.

Witch comment?

[Elsymir]

He's also an American
American = Terrorist amirite.

[Back]

He's also an American
American = Terrorist amirite.

So was Timothy McVeigh.

[Parkbandit]

He's also an American
American = Terrorist amirite.

He wasn't a "home grown" terrorist who was against Obamacare. I bet he was a nutball liberal.

[Back]

He wasn't a "home grown" terrorist who was against Obamacare. I bet he was a nutball liberal.

You really are an ass of enormous proportions for trying to portray your fellow Americans as terrorists without knowing all of the facts.

Fact is no matter what his race, gender, creed, politic or religion the guy is an attempted mass murderer of innocents and needs the death penalty.

[Showal]

He wasn't a "home grown" terrorist who was against Obamacare. I bet he was a nutball liberal.

Witch nutball liberal?

[EasternBrand]

I would hate to see the media shaman an innocent man.

[ruineye]

I would hate to see the media shaman an innocent man.

Agreed. Shamaning innocent men should be the exclusive domain of Roger Goodell.

[Daniel]

Pakistani's aren't Arabs. Stop embarrassing yourself.

[sst]

Pakistani's aren't Arabs. Stop embarrassing yourself.

Bah, you got me... here ill more specific

= Mohajir or a Sindhi or a Punjabi or a Pashtun or a Baluchi I might have missed one or two... I’m a bit more up to speed on Afghanistan considering the amount of time I've spent there the last few years.

AKA Arabs for ease of explanation. Would it make you happier if I said middle eastern or just grouped the religion into it instead?

Edit: sorry on that one daniel I'll just do Hajji

[Ryvicke]

Pakistani's aren't Arabs. Stop embarrassing yourself.

:rofl:

Is it possible that in 10 years of programming Fox News never taught the difference between Muslims and Arabs?

[Daniel]

Bah, you got me... here ill more specific

= Mohajir or a Sindhi or a Punjabi or a Pashtun or a Baluchi I might have missed one or two... I’m a bit more up to speed on Afghanistan considering the amount of time I've spent there the last few years.

AKA Arabs for ease of explanation. Would it make you happier if I said middle eastern or just grouped the religion into it instead?

Edit: sorry on that one daniel I'll just do Hajji, title fixed and corrected.

None of those groups are Arab or Middle Eastern. Also, Mohajir is not an Ethnic group. You do this for a living man. Are you Serious?

[sst]

:rofl:

Is it possible that in 10 years of programming Fox News never taught the difference between Muslims and Arabs?

He was right. I'll admit and I knew better. BUT it’s just a generally accepted term for folks from the "Middle East" However… id reference all the MSM if you want to go down the road of blaming the MSM for making mistakes in reporting, I highly doubt only “Fox News” does it

[sst]

(edited to make more sense >.< )


None of those groups are Arab or Middle Eastern. Also, Mohajir is not an Ethnic group. You do this for a living man. Are you Serious?

And yes, I know as I said you're right. But if you ask Joe walking down the street he will say Arab. I fell into the trap of my own making and I was wrong =(.

Also, I do, do this for a living, but my expertise is not Pakistan.

The Mohajir, are considered a ethnic group of Pakistan. If i remember correctly the word means migrant or traveler or something like that in arabic... which mine is still horrid. They speak Urdu and having called one Urdu before in ignorance I was corrected by a "friend" and told to call them Mohajir. I remember it well because he got all angry and said something like "Save that for the Afghani dogs I'm Mohajir"

Didnt they used to be the Mongols or something.

[Keller]

But if you ask Joe walking down the street he will say Arab.

Or Muslim. Both of those are sort of the issue. Why can't they just be terrorists?

You're not only displaying your own ignorance, but making the case for why generalizing is a terrible idea. Sure, it's makes it easier for simple people to understand the world around them, but in the end it results in those simple people making retarded statements like you did.

[Parkbandit]

None of those groups are Arab or Middle Eastern. Also, Mohajir is not an Ethnic group. You do this for a living man. Are you Serious?

He probably works for our government..

[Keller]

He probably works for our government..

Isn't Dave in the military? Don't you have a view on the men and women in our military?

[Keller]

None of those groups are Arab or Middle Eastern. Also, Mohajir is not an Ethnic group. You do this for a living man. Are you Serious?

Just to be even handed, is there any reason you capitalized "Ethnic" and "Serious"?

[Parkbandit]

You really are an ass of enormous proportions for trying to portray your fellow Americans as terrorists without knowing all of the facts.

Fact: He's already admitted to planting the car bomb... thus making him a terrorist.

Fact: He originated in Pakistan and just returned there from a 5 month visit.

Fact: He was a registered Democrat.

Fact: You are a gigantic douchebag of raw failure when you are not downing a 12 pack and smoking a carton of cigs. You should take it back up and just be a fucking drunk douchebag.

Sorry if the truth hurts.

[Parkbandit]

Isn't Dave in the military? Don't you have a view on the men and women in our military?

I think Daniel once went down this road.. with poor results. Do you really want to go here?

[Keller]

I think Daniel once went down this road.. with poor results. Do you really want to go here?

I usually don't take invitations from creepy old men to go down an unknown road with them, especially when the last man that went down that road with them had "poor results". Sounds iffy.

[Elsymir]

Fact: He was a registered Democrat.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/31/Webcomic_xkcd_-_Wikipedian_protester.png

[Cephalopod]

Doesn't TheE live in NYC now?

Something to think about.

[Latrinsorm]

BUT it’s just a generally accepted term for folks from the "Middle East"Let me tell you something about what's "generally accepted"...!!!

[sst]

Or Muslim. Both of those are sort of the issue. Why can't they just be terrorists?

Because, it's time to start calling a spade a spade Keller. Terrorist attacks within the United States and abroad are disproportionately conducted by members of the Islamic religion. The so called religion of Peace. The "lets be politically correct about everythig! lets hug kittens and play with bunnies!" mentality is part of the cause.


You're not only displaying your own ignorance, but making the case for why generalizing is a terrible idea. Sure, it's makes it easier for simple people to understand the world around them, but in the end it results in those simple people making retarded statements like you did.

When it comes to matters of international terrorism ignorance is not something I have. I work on it every day both within the U.S. and abroad. As I said after Daniel corrected me, he was right I was wrong, I was lazy.

[Tisket]

I like bunnies.

[Keller]

Because, it's time to start calling a spade a spade Keller. Terrorist attacks within the United States and abroad are disproportionately conducted by members of the Islamic religion. The so called religion of Peace. The "lets be politically correct about everythig! lets hug kittens and play with bunnies!" mentality is part of the cause.


Foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little mind, Dave. It's not about being politically correct, it is about being correct. A terrorist is a terrorist, not an ethnicity or a follower of a specific religion. Just like a lying thief is a lying thief, not an ethnicity or a follower of a specific religion.

If I were to create a thread about you, I surely wouldn't make it "PC Moron = WASP surprise surprise", I would title is "PC Moron = Idiot surprise surprise."

[Cephalopod]

I like bunnies.

I bet you only like white bunnies, though.

[Methais]

Fact is because of his extremist religious views the guy is an attempted mass murderer of innocents and needs the death penalty.

Fixed.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I usually don't take invitations from creepy old men to go down an unknown road with them, especially when the last man that went down that road with them had "poor results". Sounds iffy.

Free candy?

Back on topic though, witch crafting skill did he build the bomb with? I bet others don't have a ghost of a chance at getting away.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little mind, Dave. It's not about being politically correct, it is about being correct. A terrorist is a terrorist, not an ethnicity or a follower of a specific religion. Just like a lying thief is a lying thief, not an ethnicity or a follower of a specific religion.

If I were to create a thread about you, I surely wouldn't make it "PC Moron = WASP surprise surprise", I would title is "PC Moron = Idiot surprise surprise."

I think "PC Moron = Dave" is more appropriate.

I do like the incorporation of hobgoblins and thieves! Were you thinking of ways in witch to incorporate them?

[Tisket]

I bet you only like white bunnies, though.

Actually, the white ones scare the shit out of me:

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w66/Sassy_Photos_2007/EAsterEvilBunny1.jpg

[Stanley Burrell]

If I'm actually awake, aren't Pakistanis not usually of descent from the Arabian Peninsula? Sort've like how Ahmadinejad would agree with Saddam on how Israelis all have horns and are stealing your pennies, but that he'd be offended if you called his terrorist ass an Arab as opposed to a Persian?

Or some shit.































































































Or some shit. S'cuse me while I eat five or six DayQuils.

[Nieninque]

Because, it's time to start calling a spade a spade Keller.


Allow me. You're a fucking moron.
You're welcome.

[TheEschaton]

I'm still waiting for the cite that this guy was a Dem? And that he "originated from Pakistan and was only here for 5 months" cause I heard he was an American citizen (naturalized, albeit).

Yes, I live in NYC, but I'm Catholic, so I can't be a terrorist. ;)

[Parkbandit]

I usually don't take invitations from creepy old men to go down an unknown road with them, especially when the last man that went down that road with them had "poor results". Sounds iffy.

Given your history on these forums, that's probably the biggest lie you've ever posted.

[TheEschaton]

Ah wait, I misread your statement, PB, he was in Pakistan for a 5 month visit. So what? My father spends a month of the year in India, and my grandmother half the year. They must be terrorists!!!!!

[Parkbandit]

I'm still waiting for the cite that this guy was a Dem? And that he "originated from Pakistan and was only here for 5 months" cause I heard he was an American citizen (naturalized, albeit).

Yes, I live in NYC, but I'm Catholic, so I can't be a terrorist. ;)

He wasn't just here for 5 months... he just got back from Pakistan from a 5 month visit.

And there are multiple cites of him being a registered Democrat... just google it up. You won't get a cite from any of the State operated media... since they've already initiated the circling of the wagons.. claiming it was just a poor, misunderstood victim of the economy that drove him to do this heinous, yet understandable act.

Would it really be that surprising if he was a registered Democrat?

[Parkbandit]

Ah wait, I misread your statement, PB, he was in Pakistan for a 5 month visit. So what? My father spends a month of the year in India, and my grandmother half the year. They must be terrorists!!!!!

Your father is a Republican.. he wouldn't be a terrorist.

Now.. his offspring on the other hand.............................................. .........

[radamanthys]

He's an American citizen. Would this constitute aid to the enemy and classify as treason?

[TheEschaton]

My father is a Democrat, thanks though.

[TheEschaton]

I did do a google search. All I see are a bunch of news reports saying "Rush said he's a Democrat!!!!!!" and that's the most definitive statement I've seen. Everything else is "I bet he's a Democrat" or "Is he a Democrat?", reinforcing the right wing propoganda echo machine, where, by posing questions with allegations within them, the questions become "fact".

[4a6c1]

This one is truly terrifying for me because he looks so normal.

:(

[Parkbandit]

My father is a Democrat, thanks though.

Oh.. then I wouldn't rule him out as a terrorist. He fits the profile.

[Cephalopod]

I'm still waiting for the cite that this guy was a Dem? And that he "originated from Pakistan and was only here for 5 months" cause I heard he was an American citizen (naturalized, albeit).

Yes, I live in NYC, but I'm Catholic, so I can't be a terrorist. ;)

So, you aren't a terrorist, but you're a pedophile.

[josephwright12]

I dont comprehend the reasons behind his choice of pursuing terrorism... He is a university graduate and living American dream...these knid of things always disturbed me.

[Tisket]

bot's sig: "Happy are the painters for they shall not be lonely."

I've always found paintbrushes good company too.

lol

[Sean of the Thread]

But his sig vanished after his third post so I'm confused.

And why are up discussing this at 4am.

[Tisket]

And why are up discussing this at 4am.

I was sick and slept most of the day. It's only 1 a.m. here but I can't go to sleep yet even though I feel much better. I'm over rested!

[Daniel]

(edited to make more sense >.< )



And yes, I know as I said you're right. But if you ask Joe walking down the street he will say Arab. I fell into the trap of my own making and I was wrong =(.

Also, I do, do this for a living, but my expertise is not Pakistan.

The Mohajir, are considered a ethnic group of Pakistan. If i remember correctly the word means migrant or traveler or something like that in arabic... which mine is still horrid. They speak Urdu and having called one Urdu before in ignorance I was corrected by a "friend" and told to call them Mohajir. I remember it well because he got all angry and said something like "Save that for the Afghani dogs I'm Mohajir"

Didnt they used to be the Mongols or something.


They're people from India who moved to Pakistan after partition.

[Clove]

This one is truly terrifying for me because he looks so normal.

:(inorite? Where's his scarlet letter!?!?!

[4a6c1]

In the only picture I have seen of him he is SMILING LIKE A FOOL. Someone forgot to tell him terrorists are supposted to maddog the camera. That picture doesnt freak you out? He looks like a normal happy American. Except for the trying to kill people thing...

:no:

[Cephalopod]

In the only picture I have seen of him he is SMILING LIKE A FOOL. Someone forgot to tell him terrorists are supposted to maddog the camera. That picture doesnt freak you out? He looks like a normal happy American. Except for the trying to kill people thing...

:no:

From the stories I've heard, he WAS a 'normal happy American' until 2008-2009, when something seems to have snapped in his life... then he went all nutso. House foreclosed, quit his job, wife left him (for a while... I think she came back?), etc.

[Parkbandit]

In the only picture I have seen of him he is SMILING LIKE A FOOL. Someone forgot to tell him terrorists are supposted to maddog the camera. That picture doesnt freak you out? He looks like a normal happy American. Except for the trying to kill people thing...

:no:

I was going to paintbrush a crazy ass beard and turban on his picture.. so I googled his name... and found this:

http://www.iub.edu.pk/Pictures/Teachers/Agri/Faisal_Shahzad.jpg

I hope this helps.

[BigWorm]

I dont comprehend the reasons behind his choice of pursuing terrorism... He is a university graduate and living American dream...these knid of things always disturbed me.

Yeah, there's no way someone could possibly feel unfulfilled while living the "American Dream" of a a 9-5 job, a house with a white picket fence, 2.5 kids, and a huge SUV.*

* This is not really in context to the Times Square clown, but a general statement

[Clove]

Yeah, there's no way someone could possibly feel unfulfilled while living the "American Dream" of a a 9-5 job, a house with a white picket fence, 2.5 kids, and a huge SUV.*

* This is not really in context to the Times Square clown, but a general statementBeats picking rice and living in a hut.

[Parkbandit]

Yeah, there's no way someone could possibly feel unfulfilled while living the "American Dream" of a a 9-5 job, a house with a white picket fence, 2.5 kids, and a huge SUV.*

* This is not really in context to the Times Square clown, but a general statement

Yea.. first thing I think about when my life isn't perfect is to pack a van with explosives and try to kill some people.. because that will make it all better.

I'm surprised no one has brought up that this SUV was outside the Viacom building... Owners of Cartoon Network.

[Cephalopod]

NOT ADULT SWIM! TERRORIST MOTHERFUCKER! WHY DID WE READ HIM HIS MIRANDA RIGHTS!!!!

[Celephais]

Yea.. first thing I think about when my life isn't perfect is to pack a van with explosives and try to kill some people.. because that will make it all better.

I'm surprised no one has brought up that this SUV was outside the Viacom building... Owners of Cartoon Network.
He should have put a glowing Ignignokt in the window of the car.
http://www.uncrate.com/men/images/2007/02/mooninite-led-ad.jpg

[Parkbandit]

NOT ADULT SWIM! TERRORIST MOTHERFUCKER! WHY DID WE READ HIM HIS MIRANDA RIGHTS!!!!

I don't get the whole "why did we read him his mirand rights" to be honest. He's a US citizen.. the law says we have to.

[TheEschaton]

A bunch of conservatives are saying we shouldn't have, including John McCain. To their credit, Beck and I believe Hannity said he should be mirandized.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

I think anyone should be mirandized unless they are doing something which prevents it. Unless you are caught blowing shit up, shooting people, burning down an orphanage, whatever - then I think a bullet to the head saves a lot of time and headache.

But then what would the criminals sue the state/governement over?

[Cephalopod]

I don't get the whole "why did we read him his mirand rights" to be honest. He's a US citizen.. the law says we have to.

Glenn Beck stated that he didn't understand it, either. I'm glad he saw it that way.

Then you have people like McCain who think it was a mistake to Mirandize him... or worse, Lieberman, who wants to make it possible to strip citizenship from people if they're suspected of having affiliation with terrorists.

It scares me when Glenn Beck is the voice of reason on the right, much like it must scare conservatives if Keith Olbermann becomes the voice of reason on the left.

[LMingrone]

Glenn Beck stated that he didn't understand it, either. I'm glad he saw it that way.

It scares me when Glenn Beck is the voice of reason on the right, much like it must scare conservatives if Keith Olbermann becomes the voice of reason on the left.

Just for the record, don't ever get in back of Glenn Beck while he's driving. I was stuck behind him, or maybe someone driving him in his car, in CT this week. Dude was driving at 25mph in a 40mph, in a non-passing zone.

Personally I hate the guy. But I've done work for one of his best friends, and this friend has always told me that the Glenn Beck you see on TV is just a farce, and most of the shit he says is just to get ratings. Big surprise there.

On the topic of the Times Square "bomb", I was there the last few days, and the police presence has increased for sure. From what I've heard, the vehicle was sold to a scrapyard, bought by a student at The University of Bridgeport, and then sold on Craigslist to the guy who did this.

At least the "bomber" had no clue how to pull it off, or how to cover his tracks.

And don't quote me on any of this. I'm not claiming it to be truth. Well Glenn Beck's driving, that's the truth.

[Parkbandit]

I'm actually surprised Glenn Beck drives himself.. I would have thought he would have a service do that.

[Cephalopod]

He has not yet denied that his cars are powered by burning the bodies of the children he has raped and murdered since 1990.