Celtic
04-18-2004, 08:51 PM
Category For Sale, Auction or Barter (4)
Topic For sale over 1 million silver (158)
Message To Lord Celtic and others (4296)
By Edited by me so no one spams! (tamral)
On Jun 26, 1999 at 15:43
Celtic, I have read your posts here regarding the sale of the silver star and I have a few simple comments for you.
1) How dare you tell Jalius what he can and cannot do with items YOU possess no authority on. A fool who thought thus started the first World War because he felt the same way about land controlled by the Austrian Government.
2) When you twist the words of another to form a lie to get your way on something that not only does not affect you, but bears no direct concern upon you, it is immoral and considered beneath the standards of common folk, enough said.
3) The silver star was powerless in the hands of another, and only had that simple intrinsic value, therefore it was just that. an ITEM to enhance a character. just like your deed to wehnimers or whatever else you've obtained (notice how we dont question ANY of the methods by which others items, including yours, were obtained or dealt with, its called common courtesy)
4) We noted that Aelsidhe SPECIFICALLY said that such an item in the hands of another was acceptable in the case of jaelus, therefore setting a precedent, therefore any movements thereagainst would have to be carried out by her, not you.
5) Your insult regarding thats why we are leaving the lands. Celtic, I will step above and gratify you with a response, even though you do not deserve one. It is not your business, nor will it ever be, what the reasons are behind our actions or our feelings unless they conflict with a written law, or they concern you, neither or which was done. SO, what you did was create a stir to further insult a deputy (Jalius), insult Jaelus and myself, and act like you are something of a higher stanced being in all of this. Well, all I can say is, your complete lack of morals or ethics in not even bothering to email us or ask nicely about the item before bringing such harsh and classless statements will forever bear in the minds of all who leave with us what kind of sorry excuse for a sentient being you call yourself. The mere fact that you dont care who or how you insult people just to get your way on something that has nothing to bear with you, well I simply hope you learn from this and take the pacifier out of your mouth sometime soon
Lord Tamral
Category For Sale, Auction or Barter (4)
Topic For sale over 1 million silver (158)
Message To Lord Celtic and others (4310)
By Edited by me so no one spams!
On Jun 28, 1999 at 11:17
First off Tamaral,
You really need to count to 10 before you hit that post button.
2ndly, who I am is someone that cares about the integrity of the game and one that doesn't run out and sell every shoelace I have found or collected over the years.
As to some of your comments..
>1) How dare you tell Jalius what he can and cannot do with items YOU possess no authority on. A fool who thought thus started the first World War because he felt the same way about land controlled by the Austrian Government.
For you to compare me to someone as despicable as that corporal, you need to visit someone to have YOUR head examined. Dictator I am not. Someone that gets sickened by watching going away sales then two months later see the person back playing their character more often then not. You want to leave the game, give your items away and cancel and walk away. Not make a big production of a going away sale, then soon as you get a few bids, off you go conviently dropping off the going away portion from your posts.
>2) When you twist the words of another to form a lie to get your way on something that not only does not affect you, but bears no direct concern upon you, it is immoral and considered beneath the standards of common folk, enough said.
I twisted nothing. I posted VERBATIM what he posted, and then reposted VERBATIM what she posted. How is that twisting words? Hmm?
>) The silver star was powerless in the hands of another, and only had that simple intrinsic value, therefore it was just that. an ITEM to enhance a character. just like your deed to wehnimers or whatever else you've obtained (notice how we dont question ANY of the methods by which others items, including yours, were obtained or dealt with, its called common courtesy)
I don't care if the silver star could transport the holder to the moon and back, the biggest problem is what the star signifies, and then to degrade the star by including it in a going away auction.
Of course, I forgot. Your leaving the lands, what the heck do you care.
>4) We noted that Aelsidhe SPECIFICALLY said that such an item in the hands of another was acceptable in the case of jaelus, therefore setting a precedent, therefore any movements thereagainst would have to be carried out by her, not you.
How convenient. You accuse me of twisting words, and then you go and twist Aelsidhe's. She said she had no problem with it being kept as a keepsake, not being sold to someone in a board auction.
>Well, all I can say is, your complete lack of morals or ethics in not even bothering to email us or ask nicely about the item before bringing such harsh and classless statements will forever bear in the minds of all who leave with us what kind of sorry excuse for a sentient being you call yourself. The mere fact that you dont care who or how you insult people just to get your way on something that has nothing to bear with you, well I simply hope you learn from this and take the pacifier out of your mouth sometime soon
I did Email you both and asked you to remove the deputy star as it was something that means something to the deputy's and should not be sold on an open board to just anyone. That email went un-answered.
As far as your childish behaviour during this whole course, the one question hasn't been answered. That question is, do you think so little of this place that you have to simply step all over it's waining values to offer for sale a deputy badge? One that was provided because the GM's felt the holder was someone that could be trusted. Now as it is clearly posted, that maybe that trust was one not founded.
Yes, I have a serious problem with this sale of this star. The precedent it sets is frighting. Imagine a mentor deciding to leave the game and sells his armband.
Imagine a Game Host leaving the game but before doing so, gives away or sells something that was created specifically for them.
It's more then just the sale of an ingame item that does nothing. THe mentor armband is simply a show piece. It has NO powers either, but someone having one on their arm people will mistake them for a mentor. Just as having the deputy star in the wrong hands could provide for the same mistaken identity, causing undue hardships on the remaining deputies.
These insults you sling, with the exception of the first one, really doesn't bother me.
But to compare a Jewish person whose lost family in the Holocaust, to Adolph Hitler shows that your someone that has no morals yourself, and are completely clueless as to it's meaning and to compare me to him on a board about selling lines of code shows total ignorance to what Adolf Hitler did. If you *do* know what he did, then maybe you should re-evaluate your slanderous statement and retract it, not for me, but for the other Jewish players in the game.
Oh yes, one more thing. This post is not from Celtic the Character, it's from his player Alan. Maybe you should remember that when your signing your posts on something that is obviously so OOC.
Good Day Tamaral or whatever your name is.
Board Monitor.. I would certainly hope you leave this thread. While it is not on topic of the sale of an item, it is directed to those that are watching with interest the outcome of this sale.
Celtic's Player Alan.
Topic For sale over 1 million silver (158)
Message To Lord Celtic and others (4296)
By Edited by me so no one spams! (tamral)
On Jun 26, 1999 at 15:43
Celtic, I have read your posts here regarding the sale of the silver star and I have a few simple comments for you.
1) How dare you tell Jalius what he can and cannot do with items YOU possess no authority on. A fool who thought thus started the first World War because he felt the same way about land controlled by the Austrian Government.
2) When you twist the words of another to form a lie to get your way on something that not only does not affect you, but bears no direct concern upon you, it is immoral and considered beneath the standards of common folk, enough said.
3) The silver star was powerless in the hands of another, and only had that simple intrinsic value, therefore it was just that. an ITEM to enhance a character. just like your deed to wehnimers or whatever else you've obtained (notice how we dont question ANY of the methods by which others items, including yours, were obtained or dealt with, its called common courtesy)
4) We noted that Aelsidhe SPECIFICALLY said that such an item in the hands of another was acceptable in the case of jaelus, therefore setting a precedent, therefore any movements thereagainst would have to be carried out by her, not you.
5) Your insult regarding thats why we are leaving the lands. Celtic, I will step above and gratify you with a response, even though you do not deserve one. It is not your business, nor will it ever be, what the reasons are behind our actions or our feelings unless they conflict with a written law, or they concern you, neither or which was done. SO, what you did was create a stir to further insult a deputy (Jalius), insult Jaelus and myself, and act like you are something of a higher stanced being in all of this. Well, all I can say is, your complete lack of morals or ethics in not even bothering to email us or ask nicely about the item before bringing such harsh and classless statements will forever bear in the minds of all who leave with us what kind of sorry excuse for a sentient being you call yourself. The mere fact that you dont care who or how you insult people just to get your way on something that has nothing to bear with you, well I simply hope you learn from this and take the pacifier out of your mouth sometime soon
Lord Tamral
Category For Sale, Auction or Barter (4)
Topic For sale over 1 million silver (158)
Message To Lord Celtic and others (4310)
By Edited by me so no one spams!
On Jun 28, 1999 at 11:17
First off Tamaral,
You really need to count to 10 before you hit that post button.
2ndly, who I am is someone that cares about the integrity of the game and one that doesn't run out and sell every shoelace I have found or collected over the years.
As to some of your comments..
>1) How dare you tell Jalius what he can and cannot do with items YOU possess no authority on. A fool who thought thus started the first World War because he felt the same way about land controlled by the Austrian Government.
For you to compare me to someone as despicable as that corporal, you need to visit someone to have YOUR head examined. Dictator I am not. Someone that gets sickened by watching going away sales then two months later see the person back playing their character more often then not. You want to leave the game, give your items away and cancel and walk away. Not make a big production of a going away sale, then soon as you get a few bids, off you go conviently dropping off the going away portion from your posts.
>2) When you twist the words of another to form a lie to get your way on something that not only does not affect you, but bears no direct concern upon you, it is immoral and considered beneath the standards of common folk, enough said.
I twisted nothing. I posted VERBATIM what he posted, and then reposted VERBATIM what she posted. How is that twisting words? Hmm?
>) The silver star was powerless in the hands of another, and only had that simple intrinsic value, therefore it was just that. an ITEM to enhance a character. just like your deed to wehnimers or whatever else you've obtained (notice how we dont question ANY of the methods by which others items, including yours, were obtained or dealt with, its called common courtesy)
I don't care if the silver star could transport the holder to the moon and back, the biggest problem is what the star signifies, and then to degrade the star by including it in a going away auction.
Of course, I forgot. Your leaving the lands, what the heck do you care.
>4) We noted that Aelsidhe SPECIFICALLY said that such an item in the hands of another was acceptable in the case of jaelus, therefore setting a precedent, therefore any movements thereagainst would have to be carried out by her, not you.
How convenient. You accuse me of twisting words, and then you go and twist Aelsidhe's. She said she had no problem with it being kept as a keepsake, not being sold to someone in a board auction.
>Well, all I can say is, your complete lack of morals or ethics in not even bothering to email us or ask nicely about the item before bringing such harsh and classless statements will forever bear in the minds of all who leave with us what kind of sorry excuse for a sentient being you call yourself. The mere fact that you dont care who or how you insult people just to get your way on something that has nothing to bear with you, well I simply hope you learn from this and take the pacifier out of your mouth sometime soon
I did Email you both and asked you to remove the deputy star as it was something that means something to the deputy's and should not be sold on an open board to just anyone. That email went un-answered.
As far as your childish behaviour during this whole course, the one question hasn't been answered. That question is, do you think so little of this place that you have to simply step all over it's waining values to offer for sale a deputy badge? One that was provided because the GM's felt the holder was someone that could be trusted. Now as it is clearly posted, that maybe that trust was one not founded.
Yes, I have a serious problem with this sale of this star. The precedent it sets is frighting. Imagine a mentor deciding to leave the game and sells his armband.
Imagine a Game Host leaving the game but before doing so, gives away or sells something that was created specifically for them.
It's more then just the sale of an ingame item that does nothing. THe mentor armband is simply a show piece. It has NO powers either, but someone having one on their arm people will mistake them for a mentor. Just as having the deputy star in the wrong hands could provide for the same mistaken identity, causing undue hardships on the remaining deputies.
These insults you sling, with the exception of the first one, really doesn't bother me.
But to compare a Jewish person whose lost family in the Holocaust, to Adolph Hitler shows that your someone that has no morals yourself, and are completely clueless as to it's meaning and to compare me to him on a board about selling lines of code shows total ignorance to what Adolf Hitler did. If you *do* know what he did, then maybe you should re-evaluate your slanderous statement and retract it, not for me, but for the other Jewish players in the game.
Oh yes, one more thing. This post is not from Celtic the Character, it's from his player Alan. Maybe you should remember that when your signing your posts on something that is obviously so OOC.
Good Day Tamaral or whatever your name is.
Board Monitor.. I would certainly hope you leave this thread. While it is not on topic of the sale of an item, it is directed to those that are watching with interest the outcome of this sale.
Celtic's Player Alan.