View Full Version : Forging a perfect hammer
Jiire
03-29-2010, 03:35 PM
After 700k, countless hours (after mastering crafting), dozens of perfect handles and heads, I still have yet to craft anything higher than a Superior Hammer. I kept pretty decent tabs on the hours spent on mastering crafting, and now doing the same with the silvers and hours spent attempting to make a perfect hammer. So far, the time spent on attempting at crafting a perfect hammer is approximately how long it took me to reach around 320 ranks, give or take, of crafting.
Its not so much the time that annoys me, or the fact then when putting together two perfect pieces you aren't guaranteed a perfect hammer, but the amount of attempts it seems I have to go through just to get a perfect piece of a head or handle.
I am after all a MASTER of crafting, one would think that a perfect piece would come more often than every 6 or so slabs of mithril (which give about 7-10 pieces per slab.) The system just seems a way to siphon silvers and time away from the player, rather than a near fair system of hardship in blacksmithing.
I'm just ranting here in this section under my own frustrations and hours spent on only creating a perfect hammer. Don't know if it is just bad luck on my part, or a system that needs a bit of revamping but it's beyond frustrating, especially for my character who doesn't have tens of millions of silvers to dump into this.
Stanley Burrell
03-29-2010, 03:52 PM
I have two, both ora and altered (rare for a merchant to do so.)
>wear forg
You attach a perfect ruic-handled dark ora forging-hammer inset with a vaalin Artisan Guild coat of arms to your Lorminstra sash.
>remove forg
You remove a perfect ruic-handled dark ora forging-hammer inset with a vaalin Artisan Guild coat of arms from your Lorminstra sash.
>
You determine that you could wear the forging-hammer, attaching it to your belt. The forging-hammer appears to serve some purpose. A perfect ora forging-hammer:
Set into the pommel of the ora-handled forging-hammer is a lidless sapphire eye. Topaz shards and copper foil depicting the light of the setting sun surround mountains engraved into either side of the masterfully crafted head.
Edit: They're ora, so naturally sancted (in case undead invade the forge and you need to swing something at them) besides the forging-hammers.
Aanton
03-29-2010, 06:44 PM
It mostly involves a good dose of luck.
When Aanton mastered crafting back in December it only took 4 attempts at a perfect head, 1 attempt at a perfect handle, and 1 attempt to vise said perfect parts together to have a perfect mithril forging hammer. All in all it was about 20-30 minutes.
Then you have situations like yours (and many others; it's not just you) where it seems to take a ridiculous amount of time and material.
Keep at it. It will happen eventually. Best of luck and I hope you get your hammer very soon.
Androidpk
03-29-2010, 06:56 PM
After mastering crafting I spent 3 weeks scripting and couldn't even get a single perfect handle...
Jiire
03-29-2010, 08:20 PM
After mastering crafting I spent 3 weeks scripting and couldn't even get a single perfect handle...
This would liken to my situation
Latrinsorm
03-29-2010, 09:34 PM
While there are no known modifiers to gaining a rank, there are at least two that can have a negative impact on actually making things: profession and race. If you're a DES, you're SOL.
Jiire
03-29-2010, 09:38 PM
Half-elf rogue
Silvanostar
03-29-2010, 09:50 PM
any type of forging is going to drive you crazy. what i used to do was make a few perfect pieces and make a few regular pieces. when i had about 3-4 pieces of each i'd just vise them all together to try to just get a large number of vise attempts and hope i'd get lucky
i must have been extremely lucky.
After mastering crafting I made my perfect hammer from mithril in about 45 mins
second try on the vise..
Jiire
03-29-2010, 09:52 PM
any type of forging is going to drive you crazy. what i used to do was make a few perfect pieces and make a few regular pieces. when i had about 3-4 pieces of each i'd just vise them all together to try to just get a large number of vise attempts and hope i'd get lucky
Thats what I've been doing, 3-4 of each then start polishing and vice, Just been all superiors, which I can't sell to the pawnshop, and can't get any money back heh.
Seran
03-29-2010, 11:31 PM
I've currently working on my own hammer, though the only reason to not just buy one is to say "I did it."
Silvanostar
03-29-2010, 11:35 PM
hell, i bought mine. easy to get it attuned when you use it to master another weapon skill.
making a few perfect weapons will pay for the hammer easily
Seran
03-31-2010, 12:18 AM
You finish your work and step back, turning the mithril forging-hammer in your hands. You smile as you realize that this piece is probably the best that you can create.
>
You glance down to see a perfect maoral-handled mithril forging-hammer in your right hand and nothing in your left hand.
>
You let out a cheer!
Seran
03-31-2010, 01:12 AM
What's ironic is that I decided to try again with an extra handle and head I had, and ended up with a second perfect mithril forging-hammer. I suppose I can always sell the extra.
Wiseguy
08-28-2010, 09:08 AM
I'm a master in crafting. When I get the the best piece message for my maoral handles I end up with a rough maoral handle in elegant condition when appraised. When I polish the handle it becomes superior. Then best rough mithril hammer-heads are superior and stay superior when polished. I have put a good amount of time and no perfect forging hammer yet after having best vise attempts occur. I feel like something is wrong. I would imagine that best pieces would make perfect pieces coupled with a perfect vise attempt would make a perfect hammer. I've only created a well-crafted (superior) hammer. I'm a lvl 40 Dwarf Warrior. Did I miss something?
I was ridiculously lucky when I mastered crafting.
First head, perfect.
First handle, perfect.
First vice, perfect.
I peed a little.
And then proceeded to go master forging 2-handers... but never had that kind of luck again. Now I've only gotten 1 perfect weapon made in the last year or so. Granted I've not spent nearly as much time in the forge as I used to.
I also have a friend who has mastered for months. Spent days and days in the forge. Has made so many superior weapons you could cry, with no perfects.
At least she got her hammer?
I'm a master in crafting. When I get the the best piece message for my maoral handles I end up with a rough maoral handle in elegant condition when appraised. When I polish the handle it becomes superior. Then best rough mithril hammer-heads are superior and stay superior when polished. I have put a good amount of time and no perfect forging hammer yet after having best vise attempts occur. I feel like something is wrong. I would imagine that best pieces would make perfect pieces coupled with a perfect vise attempt would make a perfect hammer. I've only created a well-crafted (superior) hammer. I'm a lvl 40 Dwarf Warrior. Did I miss something?
Polishing should not make the handle/head superior... it should be superior to begin with.
You need a best attempt on the head, another on the handle, and a 3rd on the vise.
Make sure you don't accidentally pick up a handle out of the trash, I did that once and wasted a perfect vise attempt. I was MAD.
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