Spawn Rate Math?

[Askip]

From the officals:

...The only way for it to hinder the spawn rate is if you're in the sanctuary at the exact moment it checks if additional creatures are needed. Considering it takes most players 1 second to move from room to room during a hunt, this is extremely unlikely (less than 3% with the fastest spawn rate)....GM Estild

Given the above numbers, the fastest rate is?

I've written the equation as 1=.03x but that does not look right, however it has been 40+ years since I've had to do algebra.

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"I was told there would be no math" - C.Chase as G.Ford, SNL

[Bobmuhthol]

I don't really understand the setup here, ie., what you're looking to solve.

For what it's worth, the equation you set up says 1 second is equal to 3% of some value, and thus, that value is 33.3 seconds. What that actually means is beyond me.

Edit: I am probably overcomplicating things but I feel like he is talking about a Markov process where the probability that you are in that room is less than 3% (suggesting there are at least 34 rooms to be in) at the particular moment when a check occurs. I don't know that there is a spawn rate determination that can be made.

[Askip]

Thanks, maybe I should have included the entire post:

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SYLVANCODE
If I pass through the room with the sanctuary (and the group resting.) won't that kill my spawn rate?
I believe that's where my frustration may come from. Another group, plopping down, inside 213, and I have to pass through their room, and as such, the area is thinking nobody is there.


The only way for it to hinder the spawn rate is if you're in the sanctuary at the exact moment it checks if additional creatures are needed. Considering it takes most players 1 second to move from room to room during a hunt, this is extremely unlikely (less than 3% with the fastest spawn rate).

SYLVANCODE
I also don't believe this is true, I'm sitting inside 1011 right now, and if I peer around I can see creatures. I've been the only person here for quite awhile.


Creatures don't despawn unless you leave the area. That's different than determining if additional creatures should be spawned.

GameMaster Estild

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[Bobmuhthol]

Yeah, from that it seems like he is just saying that the odds that you are actually in a sanctuary when the system checks to see how many people are around, assuming you are moving at 1 room per second (equivalently 1 second per room), are less than 3%. What I said before about being in that room at any given time assumes some different stuff than the duration of being in a room so I'll modify it:

The system will check to see if there are people not in a sanctuary to determine whether to spawn new monsters every X seconds. If you spend 1 second in every room while moving, the chance of not being counted because you are walking through a sanctuary at the time is less than 3%, which suggests that the rate at which the system checks for people is once every 33.3 seconds or less.

It does not necessarily say anything about the actual spawn rate, but it does mean that no less than 33 seconds pass before the system makes another attempt to determine whether to spawn new monsters.

[Askip]

Yeah, from that it seems like he is just saying that the odds that you are actually in a sanctuary when the system checks to see how many people are around, assuming you are moving at 1 room per second (equivalently 1 second per room), are less than 3%. What I said before about being in that room at any given time assumes some different stuff than the duration of being in a room so I'll modify it:

The system will check to see if there are people not in a sanctuary to determine whether to spawn new monsters every X seconds. If you spend 1 second in every room while moving, the chance of not being counted because you are walking through a sanctuary at the time is less than 3%, which suggests that the rate at which the system checks for people is once every 33.3 seconds or less.

It does not necessarily say anything about the actual spawn rate, but it does mean that no less than 33 seconds pass before the system makes another attempt to determine whether to spawn new monsters.

That is what I figured he was saying, but it seems awfully slow for the fastest spawn rate.

Thanks again.

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[phantasm]

It would be an entirely different result if the area only had 5 rooms, and something else if it had 130 rooms. What area are we talking about?

[Drew]

Yeah I did the math yesterday, I figured that meant the fastest spawn rate was every 30 seconds.

[Celephais]

He said "Less than 3%" 30 seconds would be a 3.3(repeat)% chance. But yeah odds are it's a 30 second timer. I also don't think it necessarly means "spawn rate" like we might think, it just checks to see if more spawns are needed once every 30 seconds, and then says something like "okay spawns are needed, we need about 5, spread them out over the next 30 seconds" ... then it checks again in 30 seconds to see what else it needs to do.

Really all you can extrapolate is that in the fastest spawning area within 1 minute of you entering it, there should be a creature spawned.

[Bobmuhthol]

<<It would be an entirely different result if the area only had 5 rooms, and something else if it had 130 rooms. What area are we talking about?>>

There are a number of ways to model this. What we're saying is that "every time you enter a sanctuary, there is always less than a 3% chance that you will remain in the sanctuary while the system checks for new spawns, assuming you stay in the sanctuary for exactly 1 second."

Granted, if there are 5 rooms and you spend an equal amount of time in every room, and one of them is a sanctuary, then yes, you will be in a sanctuary for 20% of the spawn checks. Hopefully you know to avoid spending as much time in the sanctuary as the other rooms, though. It is still true that each time you enter the sanctuary your chance of there being a spawn check is less than 3%. Statistics!

[Celephais]

But what if someone inside the sanctuary told you that one of the three exits from the room, north, east, and dennis, contained a monster, and the other two contained another sanctuary, should you change rooms?