Assess requirements?

[Lumi]

How much armor training do I need before I can accurately assess for padding?

Does it change based on AG? AsG?

Is it easier to tell the type of padding than the amount, or if I have enough skill to tell the former then I will automatically be able to determine the latter?

I found a set of leathers in a Grim box, and I'll be rather disappointed if they're just vanilla 4x fulls. According to the AG treasure master, they aren't enhancive :(

[Bobmuhthol]

Go to the AI crystal to check if padding is there, if it still exists.

[Riltus]

How much armor training do I need before I can accurately assess for padding?

Does it change based on AG? AsG?

Is it easier to tell the type of padding than the amount, or if I have enough skill to tell the former then I will automatically be able to determine the latter?

I found a set of leathers in a Grim box, and I'll be rather disappointed if they're just vanilla 4x fulls. According to the AG treasure master, they aren't enhancive :(

There is some useful information in the linked thread with research done by Latrinsorm.

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=24635&highlight=weighting

Basically, the more skill you have, the better the chance to get a reading, but it is possible to get a reading with zero skill. The chance of getting a padding/weighting reading (damage or crit) is more likely than assessing its value(somewhat, decent, heavy etc.).

If you do get a reading it will always be accurate.


Alright, here's the scoop.

First, a warrior doesn't need any ranks to detect if there's weighting at all: however, he or she will only have a 1/20th chance of doing so. This chance increases by 1/20th at 9 ranks and every 5.5 ranks thereafter (9, 14, 20, etc.). Thus, a level 40 warrior doubled in weapon (82 ranks) will have a 75% chance of detecting the presence of weighting. Statistics tells us that there's only a 1.6% chance of him or her missing weighting after three attempts. (I only had 96 ranks available to me, so I'm not sure if the progression goes all the way to 100%. I expect not.)

Second, a warrior will never misidentify a damage weighted weapon as a crit weighted weapon (and I suspect vice versa). Further, a warrior will never get a wrong value reading (misidentifying a somewhat weighted weapon as a decent weighted weapon, for instance). The progression for value identification is significantly more mysterious. My best guess is that it maxes out at around 175 ranks, but even at 82 ranks a warrior will have a solid 30% or so chance at getting exact info (resulting in a 2 in 3 chance at finding it after 3 tries). I'm quite sure that it's related to overall tries rather than raw weighting identifications: that is, the ratio between value readings and raw readings is extremely unstable. I would have to do the experiment again with significantly more trials to really be sure, and I'm not going to anytime soon.

I don't have any armor to try the same experiment on armor assessment. I would imagine it's exactly the same, only with armor ranks.

edit: Oh, and there's no evidence to indicate that my warrior got "better" at assessing as each trial (rank) went along (a familiarity effect). Also, there's no evidence that indicates stance plays a role.


Mark

[Lumi]

Sweet, precisely what I was looking for. Thanks!

And, with some patience, I found that they're temp crit padded :)

Now to try and get the amount of padding...

Edit:

Examining the leather closely, it looks like it is temporarily decently padded against critical blows.

w00t!

Wonder what they're worth?