Preception and Attack strength

[Vagabondbard]

Preception give +1 to AS for every 2 ranks above 40 with a maximum of +1 per level.

Does that mean that someone thats level 40 can have 120 ranks of preception and a +40 bonus, or am I reading this incorrectly.


So a rogue who can triple can stay +1 per level, but everyone else gets +20 by 40th level from their 80 ranks of preception.

GBB

[Drew]

IIRC you don't get any extra AS for perception training over 2x.

[Gelston]

Perception + Ambushing ranks Though rogues (http://www.krakiipedia.org/wiki/Rogue) can triple train in perception, they cannot gain more than +2 to attack strength per level between these skillsFrom Krakiipedia.

[upperguy]

so is there an aiming bonus for 3x vs 2x in perception?

Also does ambush only aid in shooting from hiding? If I'm only open aiming could I drop ambush?

[kookiegod]

so is there an aiming bonus for 3x vs 2x in perception?

Also does ambush only aid in shooting from hiding? If I'm only open aiming could I drop ambush?

Yes and yes.

My archer rogue trains in ambush cause its cheap, but I'm thinking of dropping it for some other fun stuff of the moment. My ranger archer hasn't even bothered with it at 22 and since none of it kicks into till 40, more of a post-cap <laugh, like I'll ever see post cap with one character, let alone the bunches I have>. Both shoot from the open, so I just tank em.

Yes, more perception helps hit what you are AIMing for.

~Paul

[BriarFox]

It's 1 AS / 4 ranks over 40, actually, capped at 2x. That applies to both Perception and Ambush. Sniping requires ambush and perception, and open aiming requires perception. 3x perception will help with aiming, though, like Paul said. More info in my guide if you feel like reading it.

[Vagabondbard]

Perception + Ambushing ranks Though rogues (http://www.krakiipedia.org/wiki/Rogue) can triple train in perception, they cannot gain more than +2 to attack strength per level between these skillsFrom Krakiipedia.

that per level thing is what confuses me the most.

GBB

[droit]

I find the way people describe the whole perception/ambush dynamic to be generally retarded and overly complicated. Just think of it like this: You get 1 AS for every 4 ranks of perception you have over 40, capped at 2x level. You also get 1 AS for every 4 ranks of ambush you have over 40, also capped at 2x level.

Tada.

[upperguy]

okay so at level 46, with 123 perception I would get +13 AS from 92 qualifying ranks. Realistically how much do I benefit from the other 41 ranks as an open aimed archer? I also 2x in ambush so do I get the same +13 bonus open aiming or only from hiding?

[Izzy]

okay so at level 46, with 123 perception I would get +13 AS from 92 qualifying ranks. Realistically how much do I benefit from the other 41 ranks as an open aimed archer? I also 2x in ambush so do I get the same +13 bonus open aiming or only from hiding?

The AS bonus from ambush is constant. You don't get any benefit to AIMing from the open from ambush, however. Only while sniping.

[upperguy]

hmmm okay I think I'm gonna drop ambush since I've got almost 350 PTP and 150MTP's tied up in it and a fixskills. is there anything worth investing them in though? here's my training sched:

(at level 46), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use.........................| 170 70
Combat Maneuvers.............| 130 35
Ranged Weapons................| 196 96
Ambush............................| 196 96
Physical Fitness.................| 162 62
Dodging............................| 196 96
Arcane Symbols..................| 50 10
Magic Item Use..................| 74 16
Harness Power...................| 25 5
Disarming Traps..................| 228 128
Picking Locks.....................| 228 128
Stalking and Hiding.............| 148 48
Perception........................| 223 123
Climbing............................| 70 15
Swimming..........................| 50 10
First Aid............................| 40 8

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental..................| 4
Training Points: 67 Phy 0 Mnt (46 Phy converted to Mnt)

[JJBummer]

Also playing with the idea of making some changes before the Fixskills rollover. He hunts from open.

Any thoughts about dropping S&H and increasing Ambush to a full 2x?

Any downside to losing the S&H ranks?

Critiques in general would be welcome.

XXX (at level 73), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 170 70
Combat Maneuvers...................| 175 75
Ranged Weapons.....................| 250 150
Ambush.............................| 213 113
Physical Fitness...................| 175 75
Dodging............................| 175 75
Arcane Symbols.....................| 70 15
Magic Item Use.....................| 50 10
Harness Power......................| 175 75
Spirit Mana Control................| 102 24
Survival...........................| 175 75
Stalking and Hiding................| 175 75
Perception.........................| 250 150
Climbing...........................| 105 25
Swimming...........................| 50 10
First Aid..........................| 70 15
Trading............................| 50 10

Spell Lists
Minor Spirit.......................| 25

Spell Lists
Ranger.............................| 50