Script hunters

[Nieninque]

I was hunting the other day and someone who was obviously scripting came in and laid into one of the critters I was killing. I killed and searched it though so no problem...though I was a little miffed.

Couple of days later, same scripting hunter came in, cast at a critter I had just killed and searched it while I was in RT, cast and killed the other then walked off.

I was a little more than miffed at this stage and my view of script hunters was low. I was gonna spike him the next time he did it.

I have seen him whilst I have hunted since, and can only assume he has adjusted his script to notice people hunting better, coz there have been no repeats, and he leaves loads of boxes laying around, so Hoorah for that script hunter in particular! :D

[Edited on 3-21-2004 by Nieninque]

[Latrinsorm]

Did you make any attempt to communicate?

[Nieninque]

Originally posted by Latrinsorm
Did you make any attempt to communicate?

Yep...no joy.

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by Nieninque
Yep...no joy. Report'm. Nothing worse than AFK scripters. Fuckers give us (responsible scripters) a bad name.

[J-Tech]

I hate BAD scripter.

J.T.

[Edaarin]

This is an OOC board, you don't need to hide their names.

[Mistomeer]

Originally posted by J-Tech
I hate BAD scripter.

J.T.

I hate people who can't write coherent sentences.

[Ryku]

[quote]Originally posted by Edaarin
This is an OOC board, you don't need to hide their names. [/quote



Ya i wanna know who it was, do tell. :grin:

[Nieninque]

Grrrr...I spoke too soon.

Here's what happened today..

>w[Black Moor, Scorched Heath]
The mist collects in a series of gravelike furrows in the ground, swirling and writhing like some almost-living thing. Blackened, broken stones and scrawny patches of heather and brush lie scattered around the bleak moor, and the ghostly howl of the wind echoes through the miasmal air. You also see a baesrukha.
Obvious paths: north, east

>Your disk arrives, following you dutifully.

>prep 608castYou make a simple motion, quietly invoking the Camouflage spell...
Your spell is ready.

>You gesture.
You blend into invisibility among the surroundings.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
(Forcing stance down to guarded)

>.fire baesget 1 arrow from my thigh-quiverstance offensivefire bow at baesYou remove a single sleek faewood arrow from a bundle of sleek faewood arrows.

[Script]>You are now in an offensive stance.

[Script]>You nock a sleek faewood arrow in your sylvan long bow.
You fire a sleek faewood arrow at a baesrukha!
AS: +323 vs DS: +211 with AvD: +30 + d100 roll: +19 = +161
... and hit for 30 points of damage!
Slash across right eye!
Hope the left is working.
The sleek faewood arrow sticks in a baesrukha's right eye!
Roundtime: 5 sec.

[Script]>A baesrukha searches around nervously.
A baesrukha glares furtively about.

[Script]>stance def>You are now in a defensive stance.

>.fire baesget 1 arrow from my thigh-quiverstance offensivefire bow at baesYou remove a single sleek faewood arrow from a bundle of sleek faewood arrows.

[Script]>You are now in an offensive stance.

[Script]>You nock a sleek faewood arrow in your sylvan long bow.
You fire a sleek faewood arrow at a baesrukha!
AS: +323 vs DS: +195 with AvD: +30 + d100 roll: +67 = +225
... and hit for 76 points of damage!
Awesome shot shatters ribs and punctures lung!
The sleek faewood arrow sticks in a baesrukha's chest!
Roundtime: 5 sec.
[Script]>
Barumples just arrived.

[Script]>.fire baesA dark presence flows upward out of the ground until a baesrukha stands in its place.

[Script]>stance defA baesrukha claws at Barumples!
AS: +260 vs DS: +329 with AvD: +35 + d100 roll: +39 = +5
A clean miss.

>You are now in a defensive stance.

>Barumples appears to be focusing his thoughts while chanting softly...

>Barumples channels at a baesrukha.
Barumples concentrates intently on a baesrukha, and a pulse of pearlescent energy ripples toward him!
CS: +218 - TD: +169 + CvA: +25 + d100: +84 == +158
Warding failed!
The baesrukha shudders with sporadic convulsions as pearlescent ripples envelop his body.
The baesrukha is crushed for 62 points of damage!
... 30 points of damage!
Hard strike to left leg breaking tendons and bone!
It is knocked to the ground!
... 30 points of damage!
Hard strike to right arm breaking tendons and bone!

>'heyYou say, "Hey."

>Barumples appears to be focusing his thoughts while chanting softly...

>Barumples channels at a baesrukha.
Barumples concentrates intently on a baesrukha, and a pulse of pearlescent energy ripples toward him!
CS: +218 - TD: +169 + CvA: +25 + d100: +77 == +151
Warding failed!
The baesrukha shudders with sporadic convulsions as pearlescent ripples envelop his body.
The baesrukha is crushed for 65 points of damage!
... 40 points of damage!
Blow removes the baesrukha's left hand neatly!
... 60 points of damage!
Blow to back crushes spinal column.
Talk about no backbone!
You hear a sound like a weeping child as a white glow separates itself from the baesrukha's body as it rises, disappearing into the heavens.
The baesrukha's face twists into a final silent screech and then he lies motionless.

>A baesrukha claws at Barumples!
AS: +260 vs DS: +329 with AvD: +35 + d100 roll: +58 = +24
A clean miss.

>.fire barget 1 arrow from my thigh-quiverstance offensivefire bow at barYou remove a single sleek faewood arrow from a bundle of sleek faewood arrows.

[Script]>You are now in an offensive stance.

[Script]>You nock a sleek faewood arrow in your sylvan long bow.
You fire a sleek faewood arrow at Barumples!
AS: +323 vs DS: +239 with AvD: +30 + d100 roll: +67 = +181
... and hit for 46 points of damage!
Shot knocks Barumples's head back by pushing on the inside of the skull!

* Barumples drops dead at your feet!

The air calms down around Barumples.
Barumples appears less secure.
The deep blue glow leaves Barumples.
The dim aura fades from around Barumples.
The opalescent aura fades from around Barumples.
The white light leaves Barumples.
The very powerful look leaves Barumples.
The light blue glow leaves Barumples.
The powerful look leaves Barumples.
Barumples appears to lose some internal strength.
Barumples becomes unbalanced for a second, then recovers.
The sleek faewood arrow sticks in Barumples's right eye!
Roundtime: 5 sec.

I stayed around long enough to keep him twice and tried to fog him back to town but his group was closed and he was obviously AFK... :shrug: He eventully logged, through inactivity I guess.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Funny that after saying "Hey" once, then 3 seconds later firing at him.

Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't you in hiding? I run casting scripts fast enough that I could get two casts off in 4 seconds like he did...

Not refuting that he was scripting, but there is no way you could have known it from 4 seconds of casting.

[Nieninque]

Originally posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
Funny that after saying "Hey" once, then 3 seconds later firing at him.

Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't you in hiding? I run casting scripts fast enough that I could get two casts off in 4 seconds like he did...

Not refuting that he was scripting, but there is no way you could have known it from 4 seconds of casting.

I knew he was scripting from the other times I have seen him there.

I have never used a hunting script, but have read others posts talking of ways to recognise people's disks andsuch like, he has walked past creatures I have been fighting before when I have been hiding, but then I guess he wasnt afk then.

It was unlikely to have been a 3 second timescale given that I am currently typing with a broken wrist, so I would say my WPM has dropped dramatically.

Anyway, if I had waited, all that would happened is he would have killed and searched there, then gone off and did it again a few seconds later.

[Miss X]

Might be better to leave it and talk to him about it rather than killing him. Barumples is a good guy and I KNOW he isn't a fan of AFK scripting since he was talking about it on PsiNet.

If you have a word with him you can probably resolve the issue without any more killing.....

[Edaarin]

Man, you have an itchy kill-person trigger finger...

YOU KILLED BARUMPLES?! BITCH!

Note: above was (slightly) sarcastic, don't take any personal offense.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

You were using a script to fire the arrows, hardly a lot of WPM.

Again, I'd say you gave very little notice, but thats just me. I mean, I've never been warned for killing someone so many times that a GM had to step in.

[Nieninque]

Originally posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
You were using a script to fire the arrows, hardly a lot of WPM.

I have macros set upfor the critters where i hunt. to shoot something different I have to at least change it to .fire [new target]. But hey, maybe I have ultra-fast reactions and though I saw it all happening fairly slowly, maybe I did just see it really quickly and even with one hand managed to 'type in 'Hey and wait for him to cast again, then firing at him straight away, in a three second time-scale. Thats talent.



Again, I'd say you gave very little notice, but thats just me. I mean, I've never been warned for killing someone so many times that a GM had to step in.

Me neither.

[Suppa Hobbit Mage]

Schematics. I've never had to talk to a GM about it.

As far as a broken hand or one hand, I think a time in motion study of how hard it is to type ".fire bar" with one hand is in order. I just did it myself (slower probably because I was watching the second hand of my watch), in 4 seconds.

You've had a broken hand for how long? I'm sure you can do it faster.

He cast 2 times, 4 seconds (that fast because its a script -- 3 seconds first cast, second cast at the 4th). You feathered him right after that. Were he truly scripting, he would have cast a third time at 7 seconds. You feathered him after the second cast.

<7 seconds and you killed him.

[Nieninque]

Originally posted by Suppa Hobbit Mage
Schematics. I've never had to talk to a GM about it.

As far as a broken hand or one hand, I think a time in motion study of how hard it is to type ".fire bar" with one hand is in order. I just did it myself (slower probably because I was watching the second hand of my watch), in 4 seconds.

You've had a broken hand for how long?

20 hours as we speak. It's very painful.


I'm sure you can do it faster.

He cast 2 times, 4 seconds (that fast because its a script -- 3 seconds first cast, second cast at the 4th). You feathered him right after that. Were he truly scripting, he would have cast a third time at 7 seconds. You feathered him after the second cast.

<7 seconds and you killed him.

OK, whatever. I just talked to him and we sorted things out so we are both happy with how things are. It wasnt a great deal of time I admit, but it was more than 3 seconds.

[FinisWolf]

[/quote]Report'm. Nothing worse than AFK scripters. Fuckers give us (responsible scripters) a bad name. [/quote]

I agree here whole heartedly..., course I *never* script... ::whistles innocently::

Finiswolf

[Latrinsorm]

If it was me, I'd have taken his leg, and opened and closed my disk over and over, then probably whisper to him that I didn't appreciate his lack of scripting skizills, maybe even giving him a line that checks for disks. Not getting a response sux0rz, so then I'd kill him.

Killing right off the bat (I'm assuming you're aiming for the eyes) is a bit over the top.

[Tsa`ah]

He was scripting and to suggest otherwise is idiotic.

I leg, maim, and kill people for waltzing into and casting while I'm hidden with a disk plainly in sight, I'm not about to suggest her reaction was over the top.

He was scripting AFK. No matter how much he bitches about it on psi-net, he was doing it himself. She simply reacted on past experience.

She should have put a shaft in his eye the first time, but she was lenient about it.

[Shalla]

I have never tried script hunting before. Is it yay or nay? Is it really that helpful when it comes to leveling? I've only trained twice since the change :( Not that I'm always on.. nor do I hunt alot when I am. Are there any hunting scripts out there to download or do I have to make one?

[Miss X]

It kinda depends really. I've never used scripts to hunt Chica because I find macros work just fine. I think if I had a great script I would be tempted to go AFK every now and then, to get a drink or whatever so I dont really wanna risk it.

As for making them, there are quite a few already made, but it would depend where you were hunting, check the scripts folder for the ones Kranar and others made. Otherwise you might need to be extra nice to any friends that can write scripts. (I regulaly suck up to Mashiek for script type help cos hes tons better than I am at it! hehe)

[Edited on 22-3-04 by Miss X]

[FinisWolf]

Originally posted by Lady Shalla
I have never tried script hunting before. Is it yay or nay? Is it really that helpful when it comes to leveling? I've only trained twice since the change :( Not that I'm always on.. nor do I hunt alot when I am. Are there any hunting scripts out there to download or do I have to make one?

Scripting is a state of mind, and a personal choice. I don't think anyone will come out and say its cool to afk script, but more people IG now days script then there are that hunt by hand..., IMHO. Personally, I have only seen one area that is not being scripted, and that could just be because I am not there enough, and thats Pinefar.

Is it worth it? Another personal choice. If yer up fer telling an ambusher that if he has a disk, you wun poach his kills, and are ready for the possibility of conflict, and you want to obtain levels rather quickly, I would say "yes", go script, just don't be stuipid about it, where you poach an ambusher that uses a disk, or you poach folks in the open.

I think there are examples of scripts in the scripting folder.

Just one mans opinion.

Finiswolf

[Tsa`ah]

A well written script is efficient, more so than keyboard hacking or using macros. The gains they produce feel too hollow to me.

I use scripts for traveling, guild work, and lore songs ... That's about it.

[FinisWolf]

^ See, its all in how *you* feel about it.

Finiswolf

[Celexei]

Originally posted by FinisWolf
Report'm. Nothing worse than AFK scripters. Fuckers give us (responsible scripters) a bad name. [/quote]

I agree here whole heartedly..., course I *never* script... ::whistles innocently::

Finiswolf [/quote]

:rolleyes: mmmhhhhhmmmm :rolleyes:

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by Lady Shalla
Is it really that helpful when it comes to leveling?With a well-written script, you will be amazed. I promise. I personally feel much more hollow when lag-kill eats up two hours of manual hunting than when script-hunting makes up for it in one hour. If/when lag (and all the other assorted Simu bullshit) goes away, I will stop scripting. It's only fair.

[Miss X]

I think quite a few people script the calvaria of temple wyneb where I hunt, it can be really annoying because Kristis was searching/attacking my kills sometimes as where others. I guess it would be easy to script there, and I may try it if some nice friends of mine makes me a script (hint hint Reyek/Frostravin) but I would have to resist the tempation to leave my comp while running it which I guess is not all that hard, I don't wanna face the concequences of AFK scripting ever, I like my nice clean record!

Totally seperate question: do all warns against you go on your record? I have a few warn harrasments from someone ::cough:: Edaarin ::cough:: and I was wondering if they would affect my record at all?

[Tsa`ah]

Don't get me wrong. To me it feels hollow.

I can't just sit and watch hunting that I am not doing.

It's a pride thing. In the end I want to say "I" did it, not "I had good scripts".

I'm not going to knock someone that does it responsibly, but I will kill a poacher after a second warning. This is right after "report XXXXXX is either blatantly stupid/inconsiderate or script hunting. I have warned XXXXXX twice about poaching; his skull is getting squished now. You may want to watch.


[Edited on 3-22-2004 by Tsa`ah]

[Celexei]

Originally posted by Tsa`ah
Don't get me wrong. To me it feels hollow.

I can't just sit and watch hunting that I am not doing.

It's a pride thing. In the end I want to say "I" did it, not "I had good scripts".

I'm not going to knock someone that does it responsibly, but I will kill a poacher after a second warning. This is right after "report XXXXXX is either blatantly stupid/inconsiderate or script hunting. I have warned XXXXXX twice about poaching; his skull is getting squished now. You may want to watch.


[Edited on 3-22-2004 by Tsa`ah]

Make sure to post the whole bloody mess, i MUST seeeeee... *drools* I love watchin people unexpectedly die....wait i didn't say dat..:P

[Edaarin]

I have no qualms about scripting my secondary character. Hunting lvl's 1-20 is not fun, typing attack rat every 5 seconds is boring as hell. I also have no qualms scripting some guild skill tasks like stunmaneuvers. If anyone has managed to get through slaphands or subdue tasks without resorting to scripting, kudos to you, it drives me insane to the point where I want to just chuck my computer out the window.

[Shalla]

Originally posted by Latrinsorm
With a well-written script, you will be amazed. I promise. I personally feel much more hollow when lag-kill eats up two hours of manual hunting than when script-hunting makes up for it in one hour. If/when lag (and all the other assorted Simu bullshit) goes away, I will stop scripting. It's only fair.

Anybody know any links where these amazing scripts are, for me to download? I just want to try it, since I literally type prep, cast prep cast. My keyboard doesn't have the alphas and the numerics anymore. I manage to get this far, because I am simply a fast typer.

Edit: Or if you can send it via AIM.. just let me know by u2u, so I can change my contact list preference.

[Edited on 3-22-2004 by Lady Shalla]

[Celexei]

Originally posted by Edaarin
I have no qualms about scripting my secondary character. Hunting lvl's 1-20 is not fun, typing attack rat every 5 seconds is boring as hell. I also have no qualms scripting some guild skill tasks like stunmaneuvers. If anyone has managed to get through slaphands or subdue tasks without resorting to scripting, kudos to you, it drives me insane to the point where I want to just chuck my computer out the window.

Totally agree, I'd never script hunt Cel, but as for my secondary characters, Scripts are totally fine, and i've just put way to much time into Cel, its a good thing there are good script creators out there, that take the time to do a personal job for ya when you have different methods of killing *nudges* ya know who ya are.

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by Tsa`ah
but I will kill a poacher after a second warning. Like I said, I have no problems with anyone reporting/killing/mutilating AFK or malicious scripters. Those people annoy me too, professionally (I guess that's the right word) and personally. Kinda like those backyard wrestlers who break each other's spines and stuff.
Originally posted by Edaarin
If anyone has managed to get through slaphands or subdue tasks without resorting to scripting, kudos to you, it drives me insane to the point where I want to just chuck my computer out the window. DUMMIES!! Gotta love the dummy reps for tackle. I don't think I even got through one set before deciding to make a script for it. BRUTAL.
Originally posted by Lady Shalla
Anybody know any links where these amazing scripts are, for me to download? I'm almost positive Caels' scripting guide is still up in the Scripting forum. That's what I learned from, along with trial and error. It's not difficult to make good scripts. More tedious than anything. Trust me, though, the initial investment gives manifold (if that's a word) returns.

[Silverona]

I can't stand afk script hunters, or script hunters in areas where there's a low gen rate. It gets very frustrating when you're typing by hand, and the scripter's killing five critters for every one you find.

[Jonty]

Originally posted by Nieninque
I stayed around long enough to keep him twice and tried to fog him back to town but his group was closed and he was obviously AFK... :shrug: He eventully logged, through inactivity I guess.

Unless things have changed since I've quit, you can stalk the body to join it's group, then fog out.

[Nieninque]

Originally posted by Jonty

Unless things have changed since I've quit, you can stalk the body to join it's group, then fog out.

I tried and it wouldn't let me...said he's not going anywhere in a hurry and I wasn't in his group