Ladainian Tomlinson released from Chargers.

[Stabbyrogue]

So where's he going?

[Guarrin]

nfl network was saying pats earlier.

[Latrinsorm]

Apparently the Patriots' deal with the devil precludes them from getting anything but a third-rate running back?

[ZeP]

Ladanian has issued a statement:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkmyNzJQN0I

[Zanagodly]

I think he would be a great fit with the Texans. They have soured a bit on Slaton with his fumble issues. If he doesn't mind a one year deal at near the veteran minimum with New England, I am sure they would welcome him as part of their veteran running back by committee.

[Ker_Thwap]

No way in hell will he go to the Pats. The fans hate the little crybaby.

[Elgrim]

I'm thinking the Steelers.

I'd love to see him come play for the Colts though. We need some RB love.

[Guarrin]

Westbrook got released today. It's an old, injury prone HB special this week.



No way in hell will he go to the Pats. The fans hate the little crybaby.

I'd think more of a reason the pats don't pick him up is the fact that they have a bunch of draft picks this year from previous trades.

[Keller]

No way in hell will he go to the Pats. The fans hate the little crybaby.

I was under the impression that Bostonians loved Bill Belicheck.

[AnticorRifling]

ZING!

[Kithus]

I was under the impression that Bostonians loved Bill Belicheck.

That's New Englanders bitch. ;)

[inso]

Bad day for backs- Brian Westbrook released today too.

[Keller]

That's New Englanders bitch. ;)

Oh. So you're saying all New Englanders, not just Bostonians, love the little crybaby Bill Belicheck?

I stand corrected.

[Kithus]

Oh. So you're saying all New Englanders, not just Bostonians, love the little crybaby Bill Belicheck?

I stand corrected.

Of course, Patriots fans love Belicheck. He even manages to shake hands after a tough loss, unlike the NFLs biggest crybaby Peyton Manning.

[Keller]

Of course, Patriots fans love Belicheck. He even manages to shake hands after a tough loss, unlike the NFLs biggest crybaby Peyton Manning.

Peyton is tall - I'll grant you that. But I'd say Bill is the NFL's most egregious crybaby.

[Kithus]

Peyton is tall - I'll grant you that. But I'd say Bill is the NFL's most egregious crybaby.

You've outdone me with wordplay. However, I've managed an example of Peyton's crybaby-ness and you've yet to give any of Bill's. Examples I say, SS or it didn't happen!

[Guarrin]

You've outdone me with wordplay. However, I've managed an example of Peyton's crybaby-ness and you've yet to give any of Bill's. Examples I say, SS or it didn't happen!

How about the defense of, "Oh, I didn't know we couldn't do that, please don't punish us commish!", during the entire Camera-gate shenanigans?

[Kithus]

How about the defense of, "Oh, I didn't know we couldn't do that, please don't punish us commish!", during the entire Camera-gate shenanigans?



"I accept full responsibility for the actions that led to tonight's ruling. Once again, I apologize to the Kraft family and every person directly or indirectly associated with the New England Patriots for the embarrassment, distraction and penalty my mistake caused. I also apologize to Patriots fans and would like to thank them for their support during the past few days and throughout my career.

"As the Commissioner acknowledged, our use of sideline video had no impact on the outcome of last week's game. We have never used sideline video to obtain a competitive advantage while the game was in progress.

"Part of my job as head coach is to ensure that our football operations are conducted in compliance of the league rules and all accepted interpretations of them. My interpretation of a rule in the Constitution and Bylaws was incorrect.

"With tonight's resolution, I will not be offering any further comments on this matter. We are moving on with our preparations for Sunday's game."


Try again?

[Guarrin]

My interpretation of a rule in the Constitution and Bylaws was incorrect.


That is what I was talking about. Which part of, 'no video taping the opposing sideline' threw him off?

[Latrinsorm]

"We have never used sideline video to obtain a competitive advantage while the game was in progress." is still a classic.

[Chaddy]

Fuck Bill Belicheck. Fuck The Patriots. I'm from New England and I have proudly always hated both of them. I'm from MA more specifically, and I will ALWAYS hate them.

[Ker_Thwap]

Well, if you knew the whole story behind Camera-gate instead of relying only on ESPN...

Several years before spygate, you may recall the Patriots were doing quite well against most every team, except the Miami Dolphins. Well, it turned out the Dolphins were doing some serious videotaping themselves. Belichick filed a complaint with the league, the league decided, for whatever reason, not to punish Miami.

Belichick did what the Dolphins did, the Jets complained a good deal more publicly, the media got involved nationally and the League, for whatever reasons, decided to punish NE.

I'm not saying the videotaping was right or wrong, just saying Belichick interpretation of the rules was based off of the Miami ruling as well.

Bill has a history of protesting stupid league rules. He wears those stupid sleeveless sweatshirts because the league won't let him dress in a suit and a tie, he has to wear NFL logo gear, so he wears it and has it look shabby. It's my opinion that he had the videotaping going on very publicly to protest the Miami ruling. I also suspect he greatly underestimated the leagues response.

However it played out, I don't see it as crying.

LT on the other hand, losing a game, and then getting all sad and bitchy because an opponent once mocked the low class repetitive sack dance of his steroid cheating teammate... that was crying.

Yes, and there are football reasons why NE doesn't want or need him as well.

[Parkbandit]

You've outdone me with wordplay. However, I've managed an example of Peyton's crybaby-ness and you've yet to give any of Bill's. Examples I say, SS or it didn't happen!

Didn't Bill walk off the field when they lost the Superbowl to the Giants and there was still time left on the clock?

[AnticorRifling]

Didn't Bill walk off the field when they lost the Superbowl to the Giants and there was still time left on the clock?
He didn't need to see the last play, he was taping it luls.

[Guarrin]

Yes, and there are football reasons why NE doesn't want or need him as well.

Actually, I think he would be a good fit for the patriots. I think he would adopt to their mentality quickly (like Moss) because he wants to win a superbowl. I'm sure he'd also be fine with taking less money for the chance at a ring, and, can be used in many different ways (WR, 3rd down back, screens, etc).

Maroney, Taylor, Faulk and Jarvis are not exactly top caliber backs.

[Parkbandit]

Tomlinson is now a top caliber back?

[Guarrin]

He's better than the ones I just listed that are on NE currently.

[Parkbandit]

He's better than the ones I just listed that are on NE currently.

Which doesn't make him a top caliber back. He was.. 2-3 years ago. He's not any longer... coincidentally which is why he was released.

[Guarrin]

Which doesn't make him a top caliber back. He was.. 2-3 years ago. He's not any longer... coincidentally which is why he was released.

I don't recall saying he was. I said NE backs are NOT top caliber. I'd take Tomlinson at 50% of what he was at his top form over a handful of backs that are injury prone, and older.

[Elgrim]

I think, or hope, LT knows that NE's chance at a bowl appearance in the near future is slim. Brady showed us all this year that he's heading downhill, and he's the only reason they made it to their bowls to begin with.

I'm biased since I am a Colts fan, but I think LT could make a lot of better choices. The Steelers being the best fit for him most likely. Then again, a fast back to add to Gore's power running with SF could be interesting.

I think there has also been mention of Houston looking at him. That would be a very good fit. Combine the threat of LT with AJ and throw in Schaub's accuracy and you have a pretty diverse offense.

LT isnt the LT of 2006, but I'm not writing him off just yet. He's still got some steam left.

Westbrook on the other hand, I just don't know.

[Parkbandit]

I don't recall saying he was. I said NE backs are NOT top caliber. I'd take Tomlinson at 50% of what he was at his top form over a handful of backs that are injury prone, and older.

Ah.. you sure didn't. My bad.

Personally, I would put my money on a much younger back than to pay for someone like Tomlinson.

[Keller]

Ah.. you sure didn't. My bad.

Personally, I would put my money on a much younger back than to pay for someone like Tomlinson.

I see LT in either (1) a warm weather city or (2) a dome.

I'd love him in Indy, but we already have a glut of RBs.

I think NE would take him if they could get him on the cheap. NE doesn't have great luck with drafting RBs, and that is the only way to get them cheap while they are in their prime.

[Guarrin]

I think NE would take him if they could get him on the cheap. NE doesn't have great luck with drafting RBs, and that is the only way to get them cheap while they are in their prime.

And I think Tomlinson would go to Indy or NE on the cheap just to get a shot at a chaaampionship.



Personally, I would put my money on a much younger back than to pay for someone like Tomlinson.

That is of course, their other option. NE has a slew of draft picks this year ( I believe, I don't remember exactly but I think the yhave 2 2nd rounders). If they address some of their issues on Defense, I could see them picking up a late round HB (which would probably be cheaper than tomlinson, but more of a gamble).

[SHAFT]

If the Pats drop Maroney and Green-Elliss and roll with Faulk, Westbrook, LT, and Taylor, that'd be a formidable backfield rotation. None of them are great on their own, but if they all split carries and are kept fresh I think they could all produce.

[Guarrin]

If the Pats drop Maroney and Green-Elliss and roll with Faulk, Westbrook, LT, and Taylor, that'd be a formidable backfield rotation. None of them are great on their own, but if they all split carries and are kept fresh I think they could all produce.

I'd keep Maroney and Green-Elis and drop Faulk and Taylor. Always go with youth at HB!

Oh, and about the colts. They fall under the final 4 rule, meaning, they cannot pickup an Unrestricted Free agent unless they drop someone that falls into the same contract category.

[Elgrim]

I'd keep Maroney and Green-Elis and drop Faulk and Taylor. Always go with youth at HB!

Oh, and about the colts. They fall under the final 4 rule, meaning, they cannot pickup an Unrestricted Free agent unless they drop someone that falls into the same contract category.

So drop Hart. :)

[Latrinsorm]

Belichick filed a complaint with the league, the league decided, for whatever reason, not to punish Miami.

Belichick did what the Dolphins did, the Jets complained a good deal more publicly, the media got involved nationally and the League, for whatever reasons, decided to punish NE.Thank goodness we know the whole story now!

[Ker_Thwap]

The days of NE attracting talent on the cheap for the chance to win a championship are over.

[Stunseed]

I dunno, I think LT would fit best how Fred Taylor did in Jax before getting let go in a support role for a transition. LT taking 20 carries in Kansas City while Kolby Smith ( I think that's the RB there, lolz Chiefs ) develops. The Lions are considering dumping Kevin Smith for being injury prone, and the Browns could use an established runner since Jamal Lewis retired. Originally, I thought San Diego might trade the corner and LT for Marshawn Lynch, who has off the field issues.

Westbrook poses a bit more difficult situation, besides the Raiders who is going to take on a concussion case? If he were cleared medically and tested to the NFL's extent, I'd much rather take him on than LT due to his recieving abilities.

[SHAFT]

I'd keep Maroney and Green-Elis and drop Faulk and Taylor. Always go with youth at HB!

Oh, and about the colts. They fall under the final 4 rule, meaning, they cannot pickup an Unrestricted Free agent unless they drop someone that falls into the same contract category.

Green-Elliss is flat out not good and Maroney can't hold onto the ball. Faulk is extremely dependable and I'd be willing to bet Taylor could still run for 1000+ if given 300+ carries. He just can't stay healthy.

Maroney fucking sucks though