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caelric
02-22-2010, 11:49 AM
How do yo do it?

By that, I mean, two sides of it.

1st: Purely technical. How do you connect both accounts? Does SF let you do this? Do you have any problems with not enough screen space for two instances of SF open at the same time? Do you multi-monitor? Do you use 3rd party software (Lich, PsiNet) and do you have any problems with that?

2nd: How do you divide your attention? Do you have one character hunting, and the other resting at a table? Do you take them both out hunting together? Do you talk to yourself? Heh. Do you have any problems with RP bleedover(assuming you do RP)?

Genuinely curious, both out of just plain curiosity, and thinking about doing it myself.

pabstblueribbon
02-22-2010, 11:51 AM
How do yo do it?

By that, I mean, two sides of it.

1st: Purely technical. How do you connect both accounts? Does SF let you do this? Do you have any problems with not enough screen space for two instances of SF open at the same time? Do you multi-monitor? Do you use 3rd party software (Lich, PsiNet) and do you have any problems with that?

2nd: How do you divide your attention? Do you have one character hunting, and the other resting at a table? Do you take them both out hunting together? Do you talk to yourself? Heh. Do you have any problems with RP bleedover(assuming you do RP)?

Genuinely curious, both out of just plain curiosity, and thinking about doing it myself.

Yep.

Androidpk
02-22-2010, 11:51 AM
Use lich.

Elvenlady
02-22-2010, 11:52 AM
Yep.

Ha, you beat me to it by seconds, so ... :yeahthat:

caelric
02-22-2010, 12:02 PM
Use lich.

I do. I suppose there are specific tools people wrote in lich for MA'ing?

dacatchman
02-22-2010, 12:06 PM
I just use stormfront. On one workstation, I have multi-monitors, and it's easy.

On my gaming rig, I have one big monitor and I just alt-tab between the two.

Sometimes I RP my two characters together, but mainly, I play one and table the other.

Gelston
02-22-2010, 12:10 PM
I AFK script like 20 accounts. Even if they bust one its no big deal.

Bobmuhthol
02-22-2010, 12:13 PM
I used to run 2 accounts (sometimes 3) on Wizard where one account (sometimes 2) was just running self-sustaining script to help the other account, whether it was for healing, guild skills, or hunting. I was paranoid so I constantly looked to see if the other account was being checked up on but other than that the character would just do whatever was in the script.

Elgrim
02-22-2010, 12:15 PM
I do. I suppose there are specific tools people wrote in lich for MA'ing?

;repo info crosscharcom

zhelas
02-22-2010, 12:21 PM
I can become hilarious to watch when a Multi-Accounter gets confused who they are controlling at certain times in public places.

WRoss
02-22-2010, 12:29 PM
I can become hilarious to watch when a Multi-Accounter gets confused who they are controlling at certain times in public places.

I used to MA a cleric/empath team. I would constantly be nodding then trying to heal people with the cleric.

caelric
02-22-2010, 12:29 PM
I can become hilarious to watch when a Multi-Accounter gets confused who they are controlling at certain times in public places.

Thats one of the things I was wondering, how often that becomes a problem for MA folks

Marl
02-22-2010, 12:31 PM
I learned quick to drop one off at a table before I went to public places...

caelric
02-22-2010, 12:33 PM
I learned quick to drop one off at a table before I went to public places...

So you hunted them together, then?

phantasm
02-22-2010, 12:45 PM
Just RP them as sylvan brothers.

Gelston
02-22-2010, 12:46 PM
I've seen some people RP their own characters with each other, that unless you knew, you wouldn't figure. (They also usually had more then one monitor)

zhelas
02-22-2010, 12:49 PM
So you hunted them together, then?

That can depend on the situation. But one can easily adapt with either dual monitors or split the windows on the screen. I will just mean more micro managing for you.

Some folks will have a script running on one to either hunt, heal, provide mana etc etc. While the one they will consider as the main navigates and hunts.

Peace

Marl
02-22-2010, 12:50 PM
So you hunted them together, then?

yea, put the warrior on autopilot (berserk) , switch to other screen and whack/cast away.

continue until fried

Warriorbird
02-22-2010, 12:51 PM
Jinsem's player was probably the best at it I ever met.

Fallen
02-22-2010, 01:09 PM
I imagine Jay of Plat and Sabreon's crew are up there for being able to MA efficiently. Kitsun is no slouch either.

Kitsun
02-22-2010, 01:58 PM
How do yo do it?

By that, I mean, two sides of it.

1st: Purely technical. How do you connect both accounts? Does SF let you do this? Do you have any problems with not enough screen space for two instances of SF open at the same time? Do you multi-monitor? Do you use 3rd party software (Lich, PsiNet) and do you have any problems with that?

2nd: How do you divide your attention? Do you have one character hunting, and the other resting at a table? Do you take them both out hunting together? Do you talk to yourself? Heh. Do you have any problems with RP bleedover(assuming you do RP)?

Genuinely curious, both out of just plain curiosity, and thinking about doing it myself.

1. Wizard and SGE allows multiple accounts on at once. I use a Nostromo N52 to alt-tab and attack between my 5 accounts. Single monitor with no third party software.

2. I take them all out hunting at once. I always keep the same login order and keep each proifle for each char named something different to avoid speaking on the wrong character.

caelric
02-22-2010, 02:04 PM
Impressive. Thanks.

SHAFT
02-22-2010, 02:39 PM
MA'ing seems extremely tedious and I've never tried it before. It necessary or just a luxury? I could see maybe having an extra character for spellups or lockpicking, but to carry 3 or more extra characters with you seems like a hassle.

Ugotfaced
02-22-2010, 03:03 PM
it's one of those lets see how much of a BAMF I am sorta things I guess.. Plus good way to make bank on selling off 5 lvl 80 characters.

dacatchman
02-22-2010, 03:05 PM
Mainly, I only ever used a second account for spell ups or healing.

I never script or anything like that. The second account is my wife's. Sometimes she plays. When she doesn't I abuse her wizard/empath for the benefits.

Trouble
02-22-2010, 03:12 PM
I used Stormfront. I would either take one guy out at a time or bring them in a group (up to 3 total) depending on my mood, state of sobriety, and hunting area. Sometimes I had all three windows up at the same time (only had one monitor at the time) and others I clicked between windows as I went.

I would bind the same attack keys for all accounts, so alt-c was attack csetari, alt-n was attack n'ecare, etc. Control-c was search csetari, control-n was search n'ecare, etc. That way no matter which screen was active I was doing the correct thing using the same keystrokes.

When I was feeling brave, I occasionally used trigger scripts that would have the other one/two characters attack whichever the driving character would attack (waitfor %1 gestures at a csetari!) but I was real paranoid while using those and would keep all three windows open on my screen at once while doing that.

I had an archer who would leg the mob (when possible) on the first shot, then one or two casters that would try to get hits in. If the mob was still alive after that I'd finish it off with a head/eye shot.

Then I had two more support accounts for spelling up and gem singing; they wouldn't usually hunt unless I was really bored with OTF or whatever. They weren't trained for hunting so they needed some handholding.

Edit: towards the end of my GS career I would park one toon in a safe spot in/near a dangerous hunting area that another guy was soloing in so he could he'd run out and rescue him if he got stunned for 897 rounds or whatever. That's the only time I killed another character with 635 btw, I killed my own guy because I forgot to grab his hand when I ran in and spammed it. I even got a [SEND] from a GM telling me how smart I was for that one.

pabstblueribbon
02-22-2010, 03:15 PM
;repo info crosscharcom

unique_send_to_script 'crosscharcom', ["charactername exec $charname_roundtime? = true"]

This will create a global variable that you can reference within your scripts. The name of the variables needs to be somewhat unique so it doesn't conflict with any other global variables.

Someone has rewritten crosscarcom and named it xsetting, it has a bunch of predefined syntax's for evaluating character's variables across the localhost. They gave it to me but he didn't upload it to the repository so I don't really feel right to do so. I honestly havent quite figured it out anyways and still use crosscharcom, lol?..

Someday, someone will come up with a multi account infomon. I tried then I got frustrated and decided that what I was doing worked so, fuck it.

Kitsun
02-22-2010, 05:23 PM
MA'ing seems extremely tedious and I've never tried it before. It necessary or just a luxury? I could see maybe having an extra character for spellups or lockpicking, but to carry 3 or more extra characters with you seems like a hassle.

I like having my own little army. Used to play a solo mage but enjoy having the ability to have access to whatever I want at whim.


it's one of those lets see how much of a BAMF I am sorta things I guess.. Plus good way to make bank on selling off 5 lvl 80 characters.

In the years since I've capped, I can honestly say that generally my character values have dropped and not gained in value. Characters sell for like $300-400 per capped exp(7.56m) versus $1000-1300 back some years ago.

Stry
02-22-2010, 05:48 PM
Alt - Tab

This is your friend.

oneillseanm
02-22-2010, 05:50 PM
Atl - Tab

This is your friend.

This.

Reltov420
02-22-2010, 06:00 PM
I have one main, So does my buddy, and we have 5 support accounts between us for spellups/raises/healing/pick etc.

When he's not on I play my main and just alt-tab through my support characters when I need them. I'm usually on 7 characters at once if he's not playing.

dacatchman
02-22-2010, 07:11 PM
Long story short, dual monitors is the way to rock it.

Celephais
02-22-2010, 07:22 PM
I just stopped playing but dual monitors and a lich like program. I had a program setup to take commands in the form of:
"Send <character name> <command>"
and then I setup macros to type the "Send <character name> " portion of it with a keystroke, so I would have one screen maximized and the other two rather small on the second screen, and I would only ever enter commands into one SF window. I had different macro sets setup based on what I wanted to do or who I was controlling and could quickly swap between them.

I don't know if lich lets you enter multiple commands in a single press, but I had other things that let me broadcast "Send all stand" for example, and I had my combat macros setup for a typical attack, where I'd hit one key and all my characters would do the default attack (302, 904, fire, etc).

Morrff
02-22-2010, 09:56 PM
I don't know if lich lets you enter multiple commands in a single press, but I had other things that let me broadcast "Send all stand" for example, and I had my combat macros setup for a typical attack, where I'd hit one key and all my characters would do the default attack (302, 904, fire, etc).

Xcom.lic Or Crosscharcom.lic or whatever it used to be called. Lich script on the repository does exactly this.

I Alt-Tab and normally run 2 monitors, which is the way to go if you don't have 3! One monitor 5-8 FE's running is just a pain in the ass, can be done, just not as nicely/effortlessly.

I wouldn't play GS again without a 3rd party like Lich(It spoiled me hard). Psinet was a nice toy and all but it's severely overated in comparison to Lich IMO