Final Fantasy XIII

[Revalos]

It has becoming increasingly hard to imagine one of the big reasons I bought my PS3 2 years ago was for this damn game. After waiting all this time, I think I'm over it. Reviews seem pretty mixed from Japan, lots of complaints about story linearity, and the fact that I really don't know if I'll have 50 hours to put into something like this.

The last Final Fantasy game I played was FF7 and I really haven't regretted skipping any of the ones after that. I'm still on the fence about 13, but I kind of feel obligated to buy it for some reason...like I have been brainwashed by Sony or something.

Is anyone still excited about this coming out in a month or is it all pretty much meh now?

[NicAlbion]

I washed my hands of the Franchise when they came out with FFX-2. Well, not entirely, I did play Dissidia for about a week before growing bored and putting it in the 'I hate those soulless Japs' pile.

[Fallen]

I heard the characters are annoying, as is the dialogue between them. I will pass.

[Seran]

My only beef with the last FF MMO was the amount of time it took to get anywhere in the game, and the boredom of the item selection for lower level characters.

That being said, I will give this MMO a try to see if they had addressed any of those issues. If it turns out to be a prettier version of 'everything else' I'll definitely move on quickly.

[Stretch]

The last good Final Fantasy game was Tactics.

I wish they would ditch the pretty graphics and go back to content :(

[Revalos]

My only beef with the last FF MMO was the amount of time it took to get anywhere in the game, and the boredom of the item selection for lower level characters.

That being said, I will give this MMO a try to see if they had addressed any of those issues. If it turns out to be a prettier version of 'everything else' I'll definitely move on quickly.

This is 13, the JRPG, not 14 the MMO. Why they started talking about 14 during E3 this year is beyond me since 13 wasn't even out in Japan by that point.

If you are concerned with the amount of time it takes to go places, this will definitely be the game for you. No world map, no grind requirements, no towns, just an "on rails" JRPG. But, given the videos and reviews I've seen, I think the only universally positive comment is that the game is very "pretty." That seems to be the major selling point.


The last good Final Fantasy game was Tactics.

I wish they would ditch the pretty graphics and go back to content :(

Man...Tactics was awesome. I played the hell out of the PSP version while I was trying to get some sleep when I worked the night shift in Iraq. And the "prettying" up they did for the PSP with the cel shaded cut scenes was well done.

The last time I really ooh'd and aah'd over the graphics in a game outside of cutscenes was with MGS4, but that was two years ago when the graphics were the reason I got the PS3. Now, I've played a few games, watched a ton of Blu-Rays, and am left wanting for the old school content. Hell, I even loaded up Valkyrie Profile 2 a few months ago and wished there was a PS3 calibre remake of that.

[SHAFT]

FF12 was pretty sweet. The story wasn't all that great but the gameplay was a lot of fun. I spent hours upon hours on the bounties.

[LadyLaphrael]

I'll buy it as soon as it comes out, and I'll probably play the hell out of it, but until that time I'm pretty much expecting another FF-8 disaster.

[Chaddy]

I'll buy it as soon as it comes out, and I'll probably play the hell out of it, but until that time I'm pretty much expecting another FF-8 disaster.

I hate FF8 as far as the series goes. I felt it could have been a halfway decent RPG if it didn't have the FF title. Nine and three are top two in my book. Tactics is in a league of its own but I love it.

[Croda]

*sigh*, Unfortunately, this will be another FF that's has too much of one and not the other. The two parts being of course, storyline, and gameplay. Ever since FF7, SquareEnix hasn't been able to succesfully (IMO) have both in the same game.

Regardless I'll still pick it up once it's about 45 bucks or so.

[Drisco]

The last Final Fantasy game I played was FF7 and I really haven't regretted skipping any of the ones after that.

Hold your god damn tounge!

X and X-2 were one of the best games ever. I love the story between Yuna and Tidus.

I want them to dedicate a whole friggen series to them.

Nothing will ever beat Medal Gear Solid story line/game though.

[SHAFT]

Nothing will ever beat Medal Gear Solid story line/game though.

QFT

[100% Wool]

The last good Final Fantasy game was Tactics.

I wish they would ditch the pretty graphics and go back to content :(


ff6. imo.

[Hips]

Hold your god damn tounge!

X and X-2 were one of the best games ever. I love the story between Yuna and Tidus.

I want them to dedicate a whole friggen series to them.


Are you mentally challenged? X and X-2 are THE ABSOLUTE WORST FF games in existence. Worse than the original Crystal Chronicles, even. Ugh.

FFT/FF6 forever!

[Androidpk]

Are you mentally challenged? X and X-2 are THE ABSOLUTE WORST FF games in existence. Worse than the original Crystal Chronicles, even. Ugh.

FFT/FF6 forever!

Long time FF fan. Ever since the 1st came out for the nes. I remember paying $76 at Funcom (?) when FF3 (6) came out. I'd have to agree with Drew and say X and X2 ARE worthy FF games. Crystal Chronicles was horrible though, at least the gamecube one.

And yes Tactics is the best! I imported that shit from Japan on day 1. It's pretty sad that the sequel for gameboy was so horrendous.

[Fallen]

The story and characters haven't interested me since ff3 (snes ver). I picked up a few of the new ones and couldn't get into them. I tried 7, 8, and I think ten. The one where they had that stupid sports game in the middle of it. Blitz ball or what not.

Anyone play Lost Odyssey? That was a sound JRPG. Nief (sp) sounds interesting too. Infinite Undiscovery had some annoying characters, but I got through it. Tales of Vesperia was another awesome recent JRPG. Star Ocean International looks good too.

[Drisco]

QFT
So true



Are you mentally challenged? X and X-2 are THE ABSOLUTE WORST FF games in existence. Worse than the original Crystal Chronicles, even. Ugh.

FFT/FF6 forever!

WHAT! You didnt' love the Yuna/Tidus love? I thought it was an epic romance.

[Jarvan]

I can honestly say I have played -PLAYED not completed- Every FF game there has been. Even the crappy gameboy ones.

I will be getting FF XIII but honestly have no real hope for it. The last game that really made me feel like I was playing a FF game was FF9, FF7 was good, storyline wise, but the fact that Knights of the Round even existed makes me cry.

FF3 for the Super NES was another decent game, but ruined again by the fact that the thief char could cast every spell, use every weapon, yada yada yada. At least in 9 there was defined char classes again.

X was playable.. story line needed work, but as always the cut scenes were amazing. Though Tidus needed a good swift kick upside the head for being a Whiny bitch. X-2 should never have been conceived, there is a REASON FF's have never had a sequel. Riku and Yuna beat Sin, and suddenly have trouble killing weak monsters? And the fact that they completely changed the combat system with how it works makes no sense at all.

FF is still one of the Best RPG series of all time for home systems. There are a few others that are up there as well. And all of them have a few crappy titles, but then again, FF has more then most.. The do get lucky once in awhile though. Lets hope it's soon again.

[Latrinsorm]

FF3 for the Super NES was another decent game, but ruined again by the fact that the thief char could cast every spell, use every weapon, yada yada yada. At least in 9 there was defined char classes again.Locke a) couldn't use every weapon and b) will mug the shit out of you.

[Jarvan]

Locke a) couldn't use every weapon and b) will mug the shit out of you.

Ok, Slight Hyperbole, but you get my point. Endgame he was doing 9999 damage with a sword, and 9999 damage with spells. Kinda defeats his purpose.

[Hips]

WHAT! You didnt' love the Yuna/Tidus love? I thought it was an epic romance.

Say it with me now. HA... HA... HA...

/kill self.

Seriously, the laughing scene? I wanted to kill myself (non-fatally, as per TOS)

[Deathravin]

Say it with me now. HA... HA... HA...

/kill self.

Seriously, the laughing scene? I wanted to kill myself (non-fatally, as per TOS)

Just because parts of it were retarded, didn't make that whole story bad. I liked FFX's story in general and even most of the romantic plot points very much.

[Chaddy]

Ok, Slight Hyperbole, but you get my point. Endgame he was doing 9999 damage with a sword, and 9999 damage with spells. Kinda defeats his purpose.

I'm not saying I'm not just as guilty as anyone else that did it. However, having Locke and/or anyone else in your party ripping max damage end game was unnecessary. It simply meant you had nothing better to do at the time than waste your life on that game, fighting in the arenas, keeping Shadow, getting Gogo and Umaro, all those relic combos, and wasting infinite hours accumulating worthless shit to fight for in the arena. You definitely had the option to play him as a "rogue" if you so chose, nobody made you buff him up with materia like that. If you're upset with the way he ended up, your fault.

And....obtw......Locke will fucking mug your ass.

[Revalos]

Damn there are a ton of FF6 ytmnd pages. I couldn't find one of Locke mugging someone with the "Oh Snap" song from the Radio Shack commercials though...I could have swore I saw that one like two weeks ago.

I was at a conference in San Diego for GIS and one of the vendors had a looping powerpoint presentation at their booth that used FF6 music as the background. I wondered how many nerds would recognize that stuff instantly, the answer was all of them...and then I bet the vendors didn't pay a dime to square to use it commercially, but it sure as hell made all the nerds go check out what it was.

[Androidpk]

You could get all of your characters to lvl 99 in FF6 incredibly fast using certain items and by hunting those gold dinosaurs.

[Jarvan]

Yeah, I admit, I maxed all the chars on my second play through of the game.

Which is odd, cause on FF2 for the SNES, on my second play thru, I tried to see how low of a level I could beat the game with. My record was 37.

Seems though that as the games continued, they made it easier and easier to do max damage. And when you can kill the end boss with 1 spell or ability, there is something wrong.

That being said.. FF Mystic Quest proves that Japan thinks we are stupid, and thus, maybe the reason they give the option to turn the fights into -can't die if I wanted to- battles.

[ElvenFury]

My GF wanted 13, so I preordered it for her. I also recently pulled out her old PS2 so that I could play 12 (which I never got around to before)

It's kinda fun, but definitely easy. Well, most of the battles are so easy that it's sad, but then every once in a while you stumble across some summon creature the wtfpwns you. It's annoying. I also think the characters are all blah. I'm hoping 13 is much better.

[Jarvan]

On a different but related note, Anyone know if White knight chronicles or Star Ocean for PS3 is worth it?

They look great, but then again, so did RPG's for Wii.. Maybe I am getting to old, but having to aid with one thumb while moving your hand in a different direction.. not easy for me.. so the FF game for Wii was a waste of my money.

[Fallen]

On a different but related note, Anyone know if White knight chronicles or Star Ocean for PS3 is worth it?

They look great, but then again, so did RPG's for Wii.. Maybe I am getting to old, but having to aid with one thumb while moving your hand in a different direction.. not easy for me.. so the FF game for Wii was a waste of my money.

Star Ocean Last Hope International was well reviewed on IGN, and I am definitely planning on playing it. It sounds like it plays something like Tales of Vesperia, where the combat takes place RT, and you run around bashing things with your weapons. I just wish it was multi-player, so multiple people could play your other characters.

[ElvenFury]

Star Ocean Last Hope International was well reviewed on IGN, and I am definitely planning on playing it. It sounds like it plays something like Tales of Vesperia, where the combat takes place RT, and you run around bashing things with your weapons. I just wish it was multi-player, so multiple people could play your other characters.

The fighting is good, but the story was so contrived it pissed me off. Also, the cinematics are poorly done and so damn long that my 360 remote regularly shut itself off from lack of use, which just seemed silly to me.

Maybe I'm just sick of JRPGs?

[Fallen]

The fighting is good, but the story was so contrived it pissed me off. Also, the cinematics are poorly done and so damn long that my 360 remote regularly shut itself off from lack of use, which just seemed silly to me.

Maybe I'm just sick of JRPGs?

The story can't be any worse than the FF games. You need a healthy dose of Demon's Souls, man.

P.S.

Did YOU play Lost Odyssey?

[ElvenFury]

I don't have a PS3. :/

We finally got a new tv, and we're thinking of going blueray, so maybe we'll get a PS3 instead. It just seems like all of their good games are also available on the 360.

[Fallen]

I don't have a PS3. :/

We finally got a new tv, and we're thinking of going blueray, so maybe we'll get a PS3 instead. It just seems like all of their good games are also available on the 360.

Yeah. X-box definitely seems to get the better exclusive titles, though most of them go over to the PC, so that's where I play them if I can. Lost Odyssey was an X-box exclusive, though, but you probably didn't catch my edit.

[ElvenFury]

No, I haven't played that. I haven't even heard of it. Is it good?

[Fallen]

No, I haven't played that. I haven't even heard of it. Is it good?

Yeah, it is the best JRPG I have played in a long while. The storyline is quite interesting, as is the skill learning system. I would say it is a bit more grown up than most JRPGs. I didn't make it all the way through the game, but that is only because I tend to overwhelm myself trying to pick up every single skill and max out all character growth as I play. I mean to eventually go back and finish it. Great game.

What about Tales of Vesperia? THAT is an awesome game for X-box 360. Multi-player too, in the sense that your secondary characters can be controlled by other people if you want, or just set to auto pilot.

[ElvenFury]

Yeah, it is the best JRPG I have played in a long while. The storyline is quite interesting, as is the skill learning system. I would say it is a bit more grown up than most JRPGs. I didn't make it all the way through the game, but that is only because I tend to overwhelm myself trying to pick up every single skill and max out all character growth as I play. I mean to eventually go back and finish it. Great game.

What about Tales of Vesperia? THAT is an awesome game for X-box 360. Multi-player too, in the sense that your secondary characters can be controlled by other people if you want, or just set to auto pilot.

See, I only got my 360 a year ago when I quit GS, so a lot of the earlier games are unknown to me. Plus, the kids keep my playing time to a minimum, so it takes me a while to beat the ones I get. I've got a list of older games that I'd like to go back and play. Consider these two added.

[Fallen]

Awesome. I hope you get around to them. I have Silent Hill Homecoming and Silent Hill Shattered Memories to get through, along with Dead Space Extraction. I feel your pain.

[Jarvan]

JRPG's have disappointed me lately. The older ones RPG's even JRPG's were just so much better really.

Every series has it's disappointment.. Suikoden 3 anyone? Or Breath of Fire: Dragon's Quater.

Doesnt mean the series sucks, just the people who thought those were a good idea.

[Androidpk]

You just reminded me of how awesome Suikoden 1 and 2 are! :D

[Jarvan]

You just reminded me of how awesome Suikoden 1 and 2 are! :D

And that is... Extremely Awesome.

Just so sad they are freakin expensive.

Can't forget my favorite tactics game of all time...

Shinning Force.

Pissed they never brought 3 over here.. and then ruined the series with the pseudo action versions for the PS2.

[Kithus]

And that is... Extremely Awesome.

Just so sad they are freakin expensive.



You should be able to download both of them to your PS3 for a very modest fee. I'm not sure how much as I own both in mint condition. Along with most other Pre Xbox/PS2 RPGs that are worth owning and the consoles to play them all on.

[Methais]

FF7 was epic. I skipped 8 & 9. X I thought was really good for the most part. Maybe it's cause it was on PS2 and had full voices and way better graphics and all that shit, I dunno. I liked the combat a lot as well as the grid sphere system, but I still don't think they'll ever top the materia system from 7. Story was decent.

X-2 I didn't really play but the combat looked pretty solid. The story seemed pretty gay though.

FFXI MMO doesn't belong in this post.

I picked up FF12 used at Gamestop for like $12 a few months ago but never really got into it, but I only put a couple hours into it so I can't say I really gave it a chance. It totally failed to suck me in from the very start like 7 did. Once I started playing 7 I couldn't stop. 12, not so much.

FF13 looks like it'll be worth a buy. The story will probably be a bit annoying, but the gameplay seems like it'll be pretty awesome. And lots of eye candy of course.

SquareEnix really needs to make a next-gen FF7 remake after this though, regardless of 13's success. I'm hoping they'll announce it at E3 this year or next year, but I'm not really holding my breath. I just can't fathom them being stupid enough to not do it on PS3/360 though. It would probably be one of the top selling games of all time, and for them to ignore that would drop their intelligence down to Simutronics levels.

Worst case, maybe they're waiting til later in the systems' life cycle so they can just go crazy with it, but I doubt it.

Piss.

[Drinin]

And that is... Extremely Awesome.

Just so sad they are freakin expensive.

Can't forget my favorite tactics game of all time...

Shinning Force.

Pissed they never brought 3 over here.. and then ruined the series with the pseudo action versions for the PS2.

Absolutely love SF1 and SF2. I still bust out my genesis from time to time to play those games. Fire Emblem is close, but nothing beats those two.

[Jarvan]

You should be able to download both of them to your PS3 for a very modest fee. I'm not sure how much as I own both in mint condition. Along with most other Pre Xbox/PS2 RPGs that are worth owning and the consoles to play them all on.

I hate DLed games though. unless I can back them up to a USB harddrive, I know I will delete them sooner or later.

[Jarvan]

Absolutely love SF1 and SF2. I still bust out my genesis from time to time to play those games. Fire Emblem is close, but nothing beats those two.

SF 3 made me want to learn Japanese. i didn't mainly cause I didn't want to mod my system.. and never could get the put-in American game take-out hold down button put-in Import way to work.

[Revalos]

I picked up Suikoden and Wild Arms on the PSN and those were pretty cool, any other old school tactics/rpg type games that are out there that I should get? The only console I had before my PS3 was a SNES, so I missed out on a ton of good ones. I even still have my FFVII for the PC discs. I wonder if they still work with Windows7.

[Croda]

.. any other old school tactics/rpg type games that are out there that I should get? .

You should check out 'Phantom Brave'.


... I wonder if they still work with Windows7.

Hmm, run in compatability mode i guess?

[Fallen]

The Lunar series is awesome.

[Seran]

The Lunar series was absolutely awesome; particularly in it's very twisted plot.

[SHAFT]

FF7 was epic. I skipped 8 & 9. X I thought was really good for the most part. Maybe it's cause it was on PS2 and had full voices and way better graphics and all that shit, I dunno. I liked the combat a lot as well as the grid sphere system, but I still don't think they'll ever top the materia system from 7. Story was decent.

X-2 I didn't really play but the combat looked pretty solid. The story seemed pretty gay though.

FFXI MMO doesn't belong in this post.

I picked up FF12 used at Gamestop for like $12 a few months ago but never really got into it, but I only put a couple hours into it so I can't say I really gave it a chance. It totally failed to suck me in from the very start like 7 did. Once I started playing 7 I couldn't stop. 12, not so much.

FF13 looks like it'll be worth a buy. The story will probably be a bit annoying, but the gameplay seems like it'll be pretty awesome. And lots of eye candy of course.

SquareEnix really needs to make a next-gen FF7 remake after this though, regardless of 13's success. I'm hoping they'll announce it at E3 this year or next year, but I'm not really holding my breath. I just can't fathom them being stupid enough to not do it on PS3/360 though. It would probably be one of the top selling games of all time, and for them to ignore that would drop their intelligence down to Simutronics levels.

Worst case, maybe they're waiting til later in the systems' life cycle so they can just go crazy with it, but I doubt it.

Piss.

The more and more you get into FF12 the better it gets. The gameplay is really good at the later parts, especially when you get into the really tough bounties. I spent over 100 hours on that game and I never even beat it. I just finished the bounty system. Its really a lot of fun.

[Drisco]

Say it with me now. HA... HA... HA...

/kill self.

Seriously, the laughing scene? I wanted to kill myself (non-fatally, as per TOS)

What you kill me!!! X-2 was so good! The cut scene when Yuna is singing and we have those flashback to shuyin and lenne
If you watched this and felt nothing I've lost hope.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu7u6kDuv6s

[Hips]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU8-e-C4Uy0

two minutes in.

seriously? whoever designed ffx should have killed themselves (non-fatally)

[Drisco]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU8-e-C4Uy0

two minutes in.

seriously? whoever designed ffx should have killed themselves (non-fatally)

Oh come on!! You try to yell a laughing noise!

[Ashlander]

any other old school tactics/rpg type games that are out there that I should get?

Xenogears, Legend of Legaia (think that's the name), Legend of Dragoon. I recommend the lunar series like everyone else too.

[Kithus]

Chrono Trigger, FF Tactics, Vagrant Story, Legacy of Kain series, Grandia, Granstream Saga, Kings Field 1/2, Megaman Legends 1/2, Ogre Battle*, Parasite Eve 1/2, Saga Frontier 1/2...

[Loyrl]

I am gonna get it, not sure on xbox or ps3 yet, and I love the Chrono Trigger (playing it on my droid right now) & FF3(6).

[Fallen]

Chrono Cross was decent. That was the next gen follow up to Chrono Trigger. I don't really remember much of anything about it, though.

[Jarvan]

Chrono Cross was decent. That was the next gen follow up to Chrono Trigger. I don't really remember much of anything about it, though.

Time travel, and a world with dinos instead of humans.

pretty much all I remember tho.

One line of game not mentioned yet...

Persona and Most, but not all, of it's offspring are very good games aka Digital devil saga, Nocturne.. also pretty good music.

[Fallen]

God yes. Persona games are insanely awesome. I don't think Mega Tenshi (SP) has put out a bad game yet. Persona 3 and 4 are both gold, as are their DS titles.

[Jarvan]

God yes. Persona games are insanely awesome. I don't think Mega Tenshi (SP) has put out a bad game yet. Persona 3 and 4 are both gold, as are their DS titles.

Sadly.. their MMO sucked.. but for console games, they do indeed rock.

[LadyLaphrael]

What you kill me!!! X-2 was so good! The cut scene when Yuna is singing and we have those flashback to shuyin and lenne
If you watched this and felt nothing I've lost hope.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fu7u6kDuv6s

The only thing that game made me feel was that I'd wasted $17 to buy it used. Worst addition to the series ever.

[Asrial]

Which system are you going to get FF 13 on (March 9th) and why?

Further...

Would you buy a PS3/360 now or is there a next gen on the horizon?

[Guarrin]

360. Probably just for the achievements and I don't mind switching discs out. I'm planning on getting a PS3 for god of war 3 though, so maybe at some point in the future, I'll borrow FF13 for PS3 from someone to compare.

No, there is no next gen on the Horizon. Well, there is, but it is not being released anytime soon (next 2-3 years). You can expect Natal/PS3 wand out this year, and that, along with the financial issues the industry has had, will extend the console cycle.

[Croda]

360 here as well. MW2 has been in my drive for too long *_*.

[SHAFT]

today today today

[Zanagodly]

waiting on my ebay copy for 360. Reviews have been pretty solid despite the huge expectations. Can't wait.

[SHAFT]

it'll be good they're always good. i'm stoked. i'm done working in a few hours and I'm gonna get the ps3 version

[LadyLaphrael]

My 13 hour work shift could not have gone slower today. Time to play!

[SHAFT]

yup, going to get it now

[Hips]

What is this potion healing multiple characters bullshit? And being a "free" action to use one? THIS IS NOT A FINAL FANTASY!

[Stanley Burrell]

My 13 hour work shift could not have gone slower today.

"'Wait,' he says... Do I look like a waiter?"

[nub]

Seems pretty cool so far......

[LadyLaphrael]

"'Wait,' he says... Do I look like a waiter?"

+5 points for Kefka Lulz, good sir.

[SHAFT]

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c151/MindsEYE90/kefka.png

[SHAFT]

The black guy in this is almost identical to Robert Downey jr in tropic thunder

[Rimalon]

Am I the only one who was just awed by the size of Hope's mother's breasts?

Seriously?

Huge bewbz.

Having fun so far... although it's just GO GO GO, PEDAL TO MEDAL. Not sure how I feel about that yet.

[SHAFT]

final fantasy games usually start off shitty, then once you get deeper the gameplay starts to open up. i skipped a lot of the cut scenes. also, i can't wait till i have to fight something where i don't have to mash the x button to win

[Lumi]

Shinning Force.

The Lunar series is awesome.

The Lunar series was absolutely awesome; particularly in it's very twisted plot.

Xenogears, Legend of Legaia...the lunar series

Chrono Trigger, FF Tactics...Grandia...Megaman Legends 1/2, Ogre Battle*, Parasite Eve 1/2, Saga Frontier 1/2...

A cookie to all of you for each of the above. All super solid RPGs.

No one mentioned Secret of Mana, or Lufia, or Phantasy Star! The 16-bit generation was truly the golden age of RPGs.

More recently...pretty much anything from Nippon Ichi. NIS games are all hilarious and offer tons of playtime, though you have to be comfortable with the anime style in which they're done. Disgaea, Atelier Iris, La Pucelle, and some others already mentioned in this thread.

I've heard good things about Radiata Stories. I've only played the first game in the Wild Arms series, but I hear the sequels are also good.

I am currently replaying Dragon Quest IV on the DS. It's a remake of a NES game, but one of my favorite RPGs of all time.

Also, with all this mention of shitty FF games, no one has singled out Mystic Quest? Worse than X-2, and coming from me, that's big. Fucking hate X-2...


The more and more you get into FF12 the better it gets. The gameplay is really good at the later parts, especially when you get into the really tough bounties. I spent over 100 hours on that game and I never even beat it. I just finished the bounty system. Its really a lot of fun.

This. XII had great combat, except for the bit where you can win battles you have absolutely no right to win if you're patient enough and abuse the fuck out of Mist chains. But the gambit system was total win, although I admit I was very wary of it at the beginning. Anything that helps relieve the tedium of repetitious button pressing while grinding is a good thing, in my book.

Dunno when I'm getting XIII, but I'm sure I'll play it eventually. Gaming budget is tight right now :(

[SHAFT]

I read a review about FFXIII that says there are no towns to explore and there are nothing but chapters which consist of you running down hallways while fighting things leading up to a boss. That sounds disappointing

[iJin]

I sold a bunch of these last night. Good game good game.

[Cephalopod]

I'll wait for the nude patch.

[Latrinsorm]

Also, with all this mention of shitty FF games, no one has singled out Mystic Quest?Mystic Quest is like SMB 2 (US), it's not really an FF game. Stricken from the canon!

[Stanley Burrell]

Shining Force (2)? Final Fantasy Legend II & III for the Gameboy? Hello?

[LadyLaphrael]

final fantasy games usually start off shitty, then once you get deeper the gameplay starts to open up. i skipped a lot of the cut scenes. also, i can't wait till i have to fight something where i don't have to mash the x button to win

I put the game down last night after about an hour and a half because of this. Very repetitive combat so far, jerky camera control, and the fact that every footstep characters take sounds way...way too loud. I'm getting bad Final Fantasy 8 vibes from it.

[Stanley Burrell]

O.K., so:

Aries dies, right, from one fucking blow of the masamune, while you're standing by, probably equiped with phoenix downs, or she's at least got Life 3 active. BULLSHIT.

Shadow dying, because you leave him on a floating continent that pummels into the surface of the planet. That makes sense. But Aries? C'mon now.

Let's go protest.

[SHAFT]

O.K., so:

Aries dies, right, from one fucking blow of the masamune, while you're standing by, probably equiped with phoenix downs, or she's at least got Life 3 active. BULLSHIT.

Shadow dying, because you leave him on a floating continent that pummels into the surface of the planet. That makes sense. But Aries? C'mon now.

Let's go protest.

Aeris from FFVII? Well that's simple, Sephiroth did it.

I don't remember leaving Shadow on the floating continent...I think I saved him.

[nub]

O.K., so:

Aries dies, right, from one fucking blow of the masamune, while you're standing by, probably equiped with phoenix downs, or she's at least got Life 3 active. BULLSHIT.

Shadow dying, because you leave him on a floating continent that pummels into the surface of the planet. That makes sense. But Aries? C'mon now.

Let's go protest.

If you look at your status you are usually injured, not dead.

[Stanley Burrell]

If you look at your status you are usually injured, not dead.

Dude, some bad guy can have a Genji glove, paired with offering, wielding two Chronoscepters from Turok, and then reduce me to ashes eight times and then cast Knights of the Round on my ashes, that I'm only going to be injured.

BS.

[nub]

Dude, some bad guy can have a Genji glove, paired with offering, wielding two Chronoscepters from Turok, and then reduce me to ashes eight times and then cast Knights of the Round on my ashes, that I'm only going to be injured.

BS.

All you do is lose all your hit points, if everyone in your party loses all their hit points then they finish you off, but they don't let you see that, the screen just goes black.

Most frightening thing ever...

[Stanley Burrell]

All you do is lose all your hit points, if everyone in your party loses all their hit points then they finish you off, but they don't let you see that, the screen just goes black.

Most frightening thing ever...

Be cool if your party died, each and every enemy had a unique way of finishing you off, sorta like when you die in an RE game.

P.S. ARIES AKBAR!!!!!!!!!!11111111onethree :(

[Asrial]

I read a review about FFXIII that says there are no towns to explore...Thank god!

I suffer from the "gotta talk to every person multiple times in every fucking town" syndrome.

The thing that turned me off to FF12 is there's practically a billion people to talk to in the first town and I got real sick of it real fast.

Another game that was pretty bad about it was Legend of Dragoon.

[Asrial]

Shining Force (2)? Final Fantasy Legend II & III for the Gameboy? Hello?Final Fantasy Legend was my first RPG style game EVER.

I borrowed it from a friend once, went "this game sucks!" and immediately took it back to him.

I exhausted his collection of games and returned to it in preparation for a road trip I was going on with my parents.. once I gave it a serious attempt.. my mind was blown the fuck away!

I went hardcore into that game. Made my own strategy guide, figured out critical killing attacks for various creatures, all sorts of stuff. I still have a printed copy of it somewhere.

I figured out some cool cheats with it too. You could take your characters stats above the displayed limit (they'd eventually wrap around).

How does Legend II and III compare to that first one? The first one was a lot of fun, though by today's standards the storyline is real primitive.

[Barundar]

The black guy in this is almost identical to Robert Downey jr in tropic thunder

I think he looks like Hootie.

[Numbers]

I'm only about 60 minutes in, but it's been a snoozer so far.

I just unlocked the crystarium thingy, where you can level up. I have no idea which characters to make which classes. Who should be a senintel? Commando? Ravager? WTF does it all mean? And why can't I control all my characters in battle?

This is not the Final Fantasy I'm used to.

[Revalos]

Final Fantasy Legend was my first RPG style game EVER.

Dude, I remember playing that on the game boy so well. You always wanted to get meat from the guys you killed so whatever monster you had in your party could turn into something awesome. I think I had some sick beholder's eye thing during the endgame that completely decimated just about everything. That and you could have an SMG which was fun.

As for FFXIII, I'm also le bored after playing for about an hour tonight. Definitely not immersed like I was hoping. Looking at all the historical information in the database you acquire is interesting...but why didn't we see cut scenes that explain it instead of reading four paragraphs of optional text. I mean...the first Pulse war broke a huge hole in Cocoon so that's why the first area is called the Hanging Edge? Um...wouldn't that have been a cool flashback or some shit?

[Stanley Burrell]

Final Fantasy Legend was my first RPG style game EVER.

I borrowed it from a friend once, went "this game sucks!" and immediately took it back to him.

I exhausted his collection of games and returned to it in preparation for a road trip I was going on with my parents.. once I gave it a serious attempt.. my mind was blown the fuck away!

I went hardcore into that game. Made my own strategy guide, figured out critical killing attacks for various creatures, all sorts of stuff. I still have a printed copy of it somewhere.

I figured out some cool cheats with it too. You could take your characters stats above the displayed limit (they'd eventually wrap around).

How does Legend II and III compare to that first one? The first one was a lot of fun, though by today's standards the storyline is real primitive.

Final Fantasy Legend II was my first RPG (although I played the first Legend.) You don't get to kill God, but you do get to kill the Gods/deities of other important religions and historical backgrounds.

Three would get the highest gamer rating, but #2 is where it's at.

[SHAFT]

It gets better. Once you get into the Paradigm shifts the battle system opens up more. After you acquire all the nodes on the crystal-thing board it opens up new skills for each character.

It's quite possibly the most beautiful game ever created I must say. At least on a console.

[Revalos]

It's quite possibly the most beautiful game ever created I must say. At least on a console.

I think that is why I'm going to keep playing it. It really is a spectacle to behold how rich the details are (and how they've been able to render stuff like that with 2005 tech!)

I'm sure it'll get better, and I'll keep playing it for sure, but Square-Enix could have kept some of the extra "filler" in that they cut out so the game could be on the Xbox360 and made it more immersive.

[Methais]

Redhead FF13 cosplay for Revalos
http://i36.tinypic.com/33oji40.jpg

[SHAFT]

Redhead FF13 cosplay for Revalos
http://i36.tinypic.com/33oji40.jpg

I hope she gets killed off...

[Tisket]

After you acquire all the nodes on the crystal-thing board it opens up new skills for each character.

I have an issue with one of the characters, Snow, and the crystalarium thing. He has 345 accumulated CP that I can't seem to apply at all. He learned a few skills and abilities earlier from each job available to him without any problem but now when I hold the A button nothing happens, even with the directional button. Fucking annoying. I have no problem using all the CP the other characters have accumulated. Anyone have any suggestions?

[Rimalon]

I have an issue with one of the characters, Snow, and the crystalarium thing. He has 345 accumulated CP that I can't seem to apply at all. He learned a few skills and abilities earlier from each job available to him without any problem but now when I hold the A button nothing happens, even with the directional button. Fucking annoying. I have no problem using all the CP the other characters have accumulated. Anyone have any suggestions?

You've likely maxed out his crystarium level for his role(s) for the section of the game you're in.

Everyone's crystarium boards "expand", eventually, usually after big boss fights. Between boss fights, though, it's totally possible to max out each role completely to a point where you can't spend CP. Don't worry though! You'll be dying for CP to spend soon enough! Shit takes 1200 to move from node to node where I am right now.

Just finished disc 2 on my 360. Battles are just a lot of mashing the A button, with paradigm shifts in between to heal and buff, but they're fun, to me. Launching shit and then having 3 commandos go all Dragonball Z on it in the air makes me happy in the pants.

Buffing/debuffing is also waaay useful, almost necessary, for some fights. And I love the way they did summons. It's actually pretty badass, not annoying, and you can skip the animations (although I don't, because they're the shit.)

We'll see how disc 3 goes.

[Tisket]

Thanks, that was the problem. I just need to develop my patience now, lol.

[Methais]

I hope she gets killed off...

You non-conformist you.

[LadyLaphrael]

I hope she gets killed off...

Holy god, I hope so too.

Also, I miss the good old days of naming your characters not crap like Snow, Hope, and Vanilla.

[Tisket]

Someone needs to start a poll for the most annoying character in the FF franchise. She would get my vote.

[Tisket]

You non-conformist you.

She is to the Final Fantasy series what Jar Jar Binks was to Star Wars.

[Stretch]

Did they intend Vanille to be the first video game character with Down syndrome or something?

Also, I'm about 3 hours in and I still have no idea what the hell is going on with the plot.

[Ashlander]

Also, I'm about 3 hours in and I still have no idea what the hell is going on with the plot.

Far as I can figure out everything is being told in flashbacks. Game starts on day 13.

[Baelog]

FF4(2)
FF6(3)

Note my avatar.

That is all.

[DarkSorc]

I like the game tbh, I think the no towns/tons of side quests is a sigh of relief for once, beware though does't really start to pick up until well on to the 2nd DVD for Xbox 360, all and all not a bad game.... just my two cents

[radamanthys]

I found a way to get massive amount of CP in FFXIII.


Then Chris Hansen came and told me to have a seat. :-(

[Revalos]

I'm starting to get into the game now. I think it was the cutscenes after you defeat the first FC. Even for pre-rendered cgi both of them were top notch. If it keeps up like that I really could care less about the fact that it is pretty much an on-rails interactive movie.

I'm not sure if I like the Paradigm shift stuff yet...I see why they did it, but I wish I could queue up moves for each of my party instead of just the leader. Again, I never did like any of the incarnations of FF battles (except for Crisis Core, I liked that).

Couple of questions for the more advanced since I couldn't find info in the manuals:

Do you have to use Sentinel setting to advance in Sentinel rank or will it just go up as you level up?

Are components needed for item crafting later or something or should I just sell them as I find them?

EDIT: Oh yeah, my reaction to the reveal of Vanille's pulse brand location was identical to Snow's in game. That was hilarious. Hope definitely is hoping she gets her tits out for him at some point, that has to be the only reason he's still following her annoying ass around.

[SHAFT]

I'm starting to get into the game now. I think it was the cutscenes after you defeat the first FC. Even for pre-rendered cgi both of them were top notch. If it keeps up like that I really could care less about the fact that it is pretty much an on-rails interactive movie.

I'm not sure if I like the Paradigm shift stuff yet...I see why they did it, but I wish I could queue up moves for each of my party instead of just the leader. Again, I never did like any of the incarnations of FF battles (except for Crisis Core, I liked that).

Couple of questions for the more advanced since I couldn't find info in the manuals:

Do you have to use Sentinel setting to advance in Sentinel rank or will it just go up as you level up?

Are components needed for item crafting later or something or should I just sell them as I find them?

EDIT: Oh yeah, my reaction to the reveal of Vanille's pulse brand location was identical to Snow's in game. That was hilarious. Hope definitely is hoping she gets her tits out for him at some point, that has to be the only reason he's still following her annoying ass around.

In FFXII you'd get items from enemies that were meant to be sold, I'm assuming the components are the same here. Sell them, you'll have a ton of gil

[SHAFT]

FF4(2)
FF6(3)

Note my avatar.

That is all.

I figured that was Terra from FF6

[ElvenFury]

In FFXII you'd get items from enemies that were meant to be sold, I'm assuming the components are the same here. Sell them, you'll have a ton of gil

Bad advice. You need the components to upgrade your equipment. Save them unless you're really hard up for cash or are about to reach your item limit.

On a side note, I'm tempted to stop playing 13 and just watch TV while repeatedly tapping the A button.

[DarkSorc]

Yeah def don't sell anything you will regret it use everything to upgrade your hear....also I don't get this whole just spam a button... I mean ya sure you can do that but of you shift paradigms you can kill a lot more efficiently IMO the game is as boring as you make it

[SHAFT]

Bad advice. You need the components to upgrade your equipment. Save them unless you're really hard up for cash or are about to reach your item limit.

On a side note, I'm tempted to stop playing 13 and just watch TV while repeatedly tapping the A button.

i sold everything. ill get more

[Tisket]

My better half weighs in: "One long fucking cg movie with a few fights sprinkled in."

He's not a fan.

[Rimalon]

Do you have to use Sentinel setting to advance in Sentinel rank or will it just go up as you level up?

Are components needed for item crafting later or something or should I just sell them as I find them?

Don't have to use any Role to level it up... I hardly ever use Sentinel, lest for Boss fights, but the HP/STR bonuses are awesome, so level that mofo up.

Components are solely used for item upgrading. All you REALLY need for item upgrading is sturdy bones from the Creature Comforts shop (add 36 of them to get 3x XP), then Crankshafts from Lenora's Garage shop.

It takes an insane amount of gil to upgrade, though, and make sure you choose which weapon you want to upgrade carefully. Match the weapons to the kind of character you want them to be; for example, don't upgrade knuckles for Snow that give +5 STR/+10 magic per upgrade if you aren't going to have him be a frequent ravager/use magic. Give him the +20 STR/+2 mag knuckles instead.

I'm liking liking liking the game at this point. It's super linear... until you get to Pulse (not a spoiler, it's in the instruction manual!).

I've literally spent the last 15 hours or so doing nothing but "critter" missions, sidequest-ish stuff, and running around Pulse. Really really fun.

[SHAFT]

My better half weighs in: "One long fucking cg movie with a few fights sprinkled in."

He's not a fan.

You have a siamese twin?

[Tisket]

You have a siamese twin?

It would be pretty cool if I did. Never lack for someone to talk to. And of course, I would be the dominant twin so I'd win any disagreements.

Great. Now I am missing something I never even thought about. Thanks. Thanks a whole hell of a lot. Bastard.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

Hope was driving me batshit insane with his emo-ness but Vanille's constant little moans/sighs are really getting under my skin.

[Methais]

Vanille's constant little moans/sighs are really getting under my skin.

They're getting under my pants.

[Stanley Burrell]

Did they intend Vanille to be the first video game character with Down syndrome or something?

Also, I'm about 3 hours in and I still have no idea what the hell is going on with the plot.

I think Umaro and Ayla definitely had a third chromosome on #21. Dirty New Zealander.

[Revalos]

They're getting under my pants.

Are you sure they aren't getting under her pants...err skirt? Apparently the "pulse" aready did:

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/6/6a/VanillesMark.jpg

[ElvenFury]

What the hell accent does Vanille have? Is that South African or something?

[AnticorRifling]

It would be pretty cool if I did. Never lack for someone to talk to. And of course, I would be the dominant twin so I'd win any disagreements.

Great. Now I am missing something I never even thought about. Thanks. Thanks a whole hell of a lot. Bastard. How horrible would it be to have a siamese twin that's gay and you're not but you share the same butthole?!

[Atlanteax]

Btw, I heard that Blizzard made this game...

[Ashlander]

How horrible would it be to have a siamese twin that's gay and you're not but you share the same butthole?!

So Tisket is a dude, I knew it! :smilegrin:

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

What the hell accent does Vanille have? Is that South African or something?

It sounds like New Zealander/Kiwi to me.

[Tisket]

How horrible would it be to have a siamese twin that's gay and you're not but you share the same butthole?!

lol

One thing's certain, masturbation must be pretty interesting for siamese twins.

On topic, I was egging Sazh on when he almost shot Vanille (chapter 7 or 8?) but he wimped out. Pussy.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

lol

One thing's certain, masturbation must be pretty interesting for siamese twins.

On topic, I was egging Sazh on when he almost shot Vanille (chapter 7 or 8?) but he wimped out. Pussy.

I was disappointed multiple times during those scenes. Later on when they're escaping their cell and Vanille is like "Do I deserve to escape?!" it's like rubbing salt in a wound :(

[Celephais]

Not going to read the rest of this thread but here's my assessment:

FF13 sucked balls when I first stared playing, about 6 hours in it got awesome, and only gets more awesome. All the reading continues to suck balls (My roomate got to a point and he looked at me and said "What the fuck is going on?" "Did you read any of the datalog" "no" "well what did you expect?"). The game is a shitload of fun right now, but I'm constantly bothered by how much they seem to want me to be a pedophile toward vanille, she's all of what, 13, and they keep focusing on her tits.

Great game though.

[Asrial]

Isn't the main character you play female? You're a lesbian pedophile!

[Celephais]

Isn't the main character you play female? You're a lesbian pedophile!
It's all over the place who you play.. but you can call me a lesbian pedophile any day of the week and I wont' deny it.

It's pretty funny that Sazh is frequently making subtle references to the fact that he's hanging out w/ a overly sexual teenager.

[The Korean]

Vanille is 513 to be exact.

[SHAFT]

It's all over the place who you play.. but you can call me a lesbian pedophile any day of the week and I wont' deny it.

It's pretty funny that Sazh is frequently making subtle references to the fact that he's hanging out w/ a overly sexual teenager.

what makes it so awesome though? i lost interest when i had to control sazh and vanille. story or gameplay?

[Guister]

The Lunar series is awesome.

QFT.

In my opinion a lot of people's quibbles with JRPG's are founded in misunderstanding. You can't expect the same kind of sense from a JRPG as you can from a Blizzard MMO say. Balance isn't as important an issue. Story and plot linearity are what make JRPG's awesome.

I agree that the FF series did take a shift after FF7. But was it for the worst? Perhaps not. I think it just became different and more futuristic. Square Enix in all likelihood implemented this change of direction in a conscious manner (or so I would like to hope, the other possibility is that the game developers took over and lost control of the series' direction).

My personal favourite console RPG's are Chrono Trigger (Chrono Cross was lacking imo) and Final Fantasy VII (epic) with other games like Lunar: SSS and Parasite Eve (for coolness) ranking high. Of course a lot of my appeal for these games are based on nostalgia as well. I have yet to try some of these newer FF games. I'm more into WoW and GSIV now.

[Revalos]

Just started chapter 4 and got to use an Eidolon Summon for the first time. Was it GS nerdy of me to think back to Bonespear Tower when that came up?

Anyway, I LOVE Gestalt mode, why is the rest of this game's combat so focused on taping down the X key on whatever mode has everyone focus on their biggest attacks? I mean, since potions work on the whole party, does anyone ever actually use medic or synergist abilities?

I'm still trying to get a grasp on the upgrade crafting system. I was hoping that your weapon would change looks based on whatever crap you put on it, but alas, it is some kind of weird experience based system. I'm figuring out that it looks like the cheaper upgrade components give you the bigger EXP bonus. Is there some kind of way for me to make the best of that? Like certain amounts of cheap stuff, then load on the big ticket ones? Also, I've heard that different weapons can upgrade differently. I don't want to blow my components on one item if I am missing out on a better weapon.

This seems waaaay too complicated since I bet I'll have to check out the strategy guide before I screw this all up.

[Carblin]

Is it just me, or does Vanille have an orgasm when she finishes her summon?

[Tisket]

Is it just me, or does Vanille have an orgasm when she finishes her summon?

When I had her in the PT, I kept the volume on low so it wouldn't sound like I was listening to bad porn. Hate the silly sounds she makes.

[Taernath]

I was thinking of getting this. I haven't played a FF since 9, and haven't liked an FF since 7, but maybe I should give it a try for old times sake. Is it really rated G though? I mean, if no one gets stabbed with an 8-foot long sword I'm going to be pissed.

[Silvanostar]

picked it up the day after it came out. i only made it through half the 5th chapter which is about 5-6 hrs in

story sucks, and its got too many emo characters.

only good thing is the battle system.

from what i've read, you combine your weapon/acc with items you pick up along the way which gives your gear 'exp.' once you hit a threashold, you need to get a rare drop that will upgrade it to the next thresh hold.

[Tisket]

Since I have limited time to play, I decided to play this with the least amount of level grinding that I could get away with. I made it all the way back to Eden, but man, the monsters are REALLY hard once you leave Gran Pulse. I pretty much gave up at that point since I don't have hours and hours to spend killing the same monsters over and over in order to be able to kill other, harder monsters on Eden. I might play more occasionally unless or until a new game comes along. Mostly to see the rest of the cutscenes. They are pretty awesome.

[The Korean]

There's a cheap way to get easy xp on eden, depending on how far in you are. Get Vanille's SAB-class Death ability, equip her wand that increases debuffing, then fight the big Adamantoise that's outside one of the last buildings you enter. Make sure Vanille is party leader, summon and dismiss the summon as fast as you can by going gestalt mode and just using the finishing move, then spam death. Having Fang as another SAB in your party will help. Death has a 1% base chance of killing it outright, with each debuff on it giving it another 1% chance. I forget how much her debuffing wand will increase the chance by, but the overall chance will still be low, so you may fail to kill it, but that's what retry is for. Easy 40k CP.

[Cephalopod]

Zero Punctuation reviews Final Fantasy XIII. (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1569-Final-Fantasy-XIII) (audio nsfw)

[Numbers]

I just got to Gran Pulse, and everything here is totally kicking my ass. I've gone through the entire game up until now without dying once, it was almost too easy. Now I can barely fight trash mobs without dying. WTF?

[The Korean]

Yeah, when you first get to gran pulse, don't fight anything bigger than you, or any group of enemies that outnumbers you by 2, unless you can preemptive rape them. If you want easy cp before you leave the big plains area, before you move on from there, the behemoth king and the other big thing that's fighting it, are easy cp as long as you take out the behemoth king first. Can farm the hell out of them by walking past the previous save point by like 5 yards and then going back.

[Numbers]

I found a good place to farm CP on Gran Pulse. It's in the northwest corner where those small little chicken things are dancing around. Just go and blitz the hell out of them, making sure to interrupt when they cast aeroga. Was able to max out all of my characters primary crystariums, and easily build up a huge stock of unused CP.

I can't figure out the best way to upgrade my weapons, though. I guess I'll need to farm gil to be able to buy upgrade components from the stores, but I don't even know where to do that.

[The Korean]

The best way I know of getting gil is farming the bigger Adamantoise creatures in gran pulse. 25% chance on platinum ingot, 150k gil each. The only other spots I can think of that are decent is the area immediately outside Orphan's cradle, and the hub of Orphan's cradle. I think both areas have mobs that drop perfume that sells for 10k or so.

[Tisket]

You can go back to the tower (after defeating the boss at the apex) and take the elevator to level five, run around to the other elevator and go back down to level four and activate the Mushussu mission (mission 24 "A Potent Sting) from the statue directly in front of the elevator. It will spawn right by the elevator and it staggers very easily. You can usually kill it and the other two regular mobs it spawns with in less than two rounds. Run back to the statue and repeat as many times as you want. Each kill is 6k exp and each kill nets you a seed that sells for 6k. It's a little mind numbing but each fight is very fast and the seed drop is a guaranteed mission reward. I know some other suggested targets have the potential to drop items that sell for higher prices but the fights can be long and drops aren't guaranteed. I can pretty much drop mushussu and friends in less than a minute with just RAV/COM/RAV setup.


The best way I know of getting gil is farming the bigger Adamantoise creatures in gran pulse. 25% chance on platinum ingot, 150k gil each. The only other spots I can think of that are decent is the area immediately outside Orphan's cradle, and the hub of Orphan's cradle. I think both areas have mobs that drop perfume that sells for 10k or so.

I guess the large adamantoise also drop an item that allow you to get a two star weapon upgrade but it's very rare. It's the item that sells for 2 million from the R&D shop, can't think of the name offhand.

edit: I must go do something cool right now because I just realized what a huge fucking nerd this post makes me sound like. Fuck you all very much.

[Rimalon]

There are also translucent cie'th-type monsters in the final dungeon that drop Perfume at a ridiculous rate. Sell for 15k each!

[Ceyrin]

Every series has it's disappointment.. Suikoden 3 anyone?

Tell me about it.

One was cool, two was a masterpiece, and then three was like... why did you even bother to make a PS2 title. Then they did 4 and I tried to forgive them, but I hated traveling everywhere for so long on that goddamn slow ass boat (other than that it was a cool game).

I never did finish 5 or tactics.

On topic, I don't own a ps3, and I've played every FF up to 12, including several remakes and rehashes on different systems.

I'm just not in to FF any more. As many people have said, 10 and 10-2 were the straws for me. I eventually played 10, but I could tell it was crap, and lo and behold I was right. Sin was his father... WTF? That was the dumbest mystery revelation ever, worse than 'the guardian forces are erasing our memory and we really all grew up with Edea as our nanny' from 8.

Also, in comparing both 8 and 10, the skill/character systems for both of those games were retarded. Draw and skill grids... the creators of these need to get a grip.

[Methais]

Tell me about it.

One was cool, two was a masterpiece, and then three was like... why did you even bother to make a PS2 title. Then they did 4 and I tried to forgive them, but I hated traveling everywhere for so long on that goddamn slow ass boat (other than that it was a cool game).

I never did finish 5 or tactics.

On topic, I don't own a ps3, and I've played every FF up to 12, including several remakes and rehashes on different systems.

I'm just not in to FF any more. As many people have said, 10 and 10-2 were the straws for me. I eventually played 10, but I could tell it was crap, and lo and behold I was right. Sin was his father... WTF? That was the dumbest mystery revelation ever, worse than 'the guardian forces are erasing our memory and we really all grew up with Edea as our nanny' from 8.

Also, in comparing both 8 and 10, the skill/character systems for both of those games were retarded. Draw and skill grids... the creators of these need to get a grip.

As long as the combat is good I can deal with the storyline as long as it's half decent. I hated the combat on 13 at first but it eventually grew on me.

I really don't get why they haven't remade VII yet though, knowing they'd make $982094720472304780239 on the first day.

[Celephais]

So once the game ramped up I rather enjoyed the gameplay, as linear as it was, some of the battles were just stupid, some of them I actually felt like I was being involved, but once I started being able to train people in any job I got annoyed with how limited the paradigm system is, 6 combos just isn't enough (even though it would take time, I'd like paradigm system with an additional 'swap just this one person to x' option). Getting into a fight, realizing I need some buff or spell I didn't need the 10 fights before, and having to just deal w/ it or retry to setup my party is stupid.

Anyway I beat it tonight, the ending was really stupid, really really stupid. I was happy to see Hope throughly shat on in the ending though, I was expecting them to have him turn into the most powerful character, granted I haven't gotten him to all role level 5 yet, but he's pretty terrible.

Vanille not dieing sucks as well.

[Revalos]

I really don't get why they haven't remade VII yet though, knowing they'd make $982094720472304780239 on the first day.

Because FF7 is making that much for them already without actually remaking it. You can download it from the PSN for $10 just like millions of other people already have since you can then play it on either the PS3 or your PSP.

They'll milk that for a few years still before remaking the intro sequence into some 3D game tech demo at E3 2015 and hint yet again that maybe if you buy the PS4 they'll remake it. This then sells systems with the mere prospect of having that happen...again.

Anyway, I quit playing FF13 after I got to Gran Pulse and couldn't figure out where to go for the second fucking optional quest without looking online. I love the cut scenes though. Maybe they could just release a Blu-Ray with all the FF13 cutscenes stitched together and sell that for $19.99.

[Celephais]

Anyway, I quit playing FF13 after I got to Gran Pulse and couldn't figure out where to go for the second fucking optional quest without looking online.
Seriously? They mark it on your map, you just hit square, and you can see where to go.

[Methais]

Maybe they could just release a Blu-Ray with all the FF13 cutscenes stitched together and sell that for $19.99.

www.youtube.com

[The Korean]

I think I'm the only person on the planet who doesn't hate Vanille.

[Revalos]

Seriously? They mark it on your map, you just hit square, and you can see where to go.

That's what I found out when I looked online. It was more that it was unintuitive enough that I couldn't figure it out, plus the fact that I got pwned by almost everything on the ground that I just lost interest at that point.

And the point of FF cutscenes is the quality, if I wanted downsampled crap, I could definitely find what I want on You Tube

[Celephais]

Spend more Crystarium on intuition.

[Methais]

I think I'm the only person on the planet who doesn't hate Vanille.

Vanille pwns. Hope is a stupid emo cunt though.

[The Korean]

You see, if I was Hope, the game would have ended on Chapter 1 or 2 with the death of Snow. So be glad he was a stupid emo cunt.

[Methais]

Snow sucks too.

[Celephais]

You see, if I was Hope, the game would have ended on Chapter 1 or 2 with the death of Snow. So be glad he was a stupid emo cunt.
Hope's logic was all messed up too, in no way was it Snow's fault, but bad logic is no excuse for his incompetence.
http://www.beerzombie.com/Images/Hope.jpg

Snow sucks too.
Agreed, as soon as all 6 members were together again Snow was never in my party, having a lot of hitpoints doesn't make up for having such bad offensive/utility capability. Fang outclassed him in every way.

[AnticorRifling]

Snow sucks too.

How can you say that?!

http://meltyourfaceoff.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/snow_informer_28single_cover291.jpg

[Divinity]

Just bought the Xbox360 Elite bundle that was the FF13 edition. Hopefully it's not a shitty game. I keep hearing the story line is good but the battle system blows. *crosses fingers*

[Stanley Burrell]

Snow sucks too.


How can you say that?!

http://meltyourfaceoff.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/snow_informer_28single_cover291.jpg

Oh shit :rofl:

[Guarrin]

I've tried to play this game for more than 30 minutes, and, I just can't. I am bored to tears.

I think it's a combination of disliking the battle system (controlling only 1 character), the long and boring introduction, and the storyline hasn't really caught my interest. I'm up to chapter 5 or 6, and I just can't get into this game at all.

Does it pick up at any point? Do I just need to stick out a few more chapters and then it picks up?

[Celephais]

Does it pick up at any point? Do I just need to stick out a few more chapters and then it picks up?

It does pick up eventually, but it's a terrible long boring road until it does.

[Divinity]

I've tried to play this game for more than 30 minutes, and, I just can't. I am bored to tears.

I think it's a combination of disliking the battle system (controlling only 1 character), the long and boring introduction, and the storyline hasn't really caught my interest. I'm up to chapter 5 or 6, and I just can't get into this game at all.

Does it pick up at any point? Do I just need to stick out a few more chapters and then it picks up?

I'm told it opens up at Chapter 10. I'm on Chapter 7 and I'm bored too.

Snow blows. Seriously! .. and, WTF happened to Shiva?! /nerdrage
Hope is a whining bitch.
Lightning is awesome!
Vanille is really REALLY annoying.

This game feels like one long road to Zanarkand with more cutscenes. I don't really even pay attention to the CS's anymore. Why are there so many damn save points?

I keep pressing on in hopes that somehow it will get better. Just.. ugh.

[Guarrin]

Ugh. I doubt I can make it to chapter 10. Thanks for the feedback. Back to ME2 or Dragon Age, I guess.

[Methais]

Ugh. I doubt I can make it to chapter 10. Thanks for the feedback. Back to ME2 or Dragon Age, I guess.

Once you're not stuck with just 2 party members anymore and can swap people in and out at will, the game gets a lot more fun.

The AI party members seem to be not as stupid as the game progresses too.

[nub]

I just got to chapter 10 myself. I like it, I like the story as well. Gets good from 9 to 10, well better anyway, it was good before and gets better. Also if someone is going to spoil something, can you write "SPOILER"... I know I should expect it but sometimes I am just reading this thread to see what other people think. Just a friendly request!

[Back]

I made it to Gran Pulse with all the open training paths and having all the chars open and I am still falling asleep at the controller. Even the weapon/item upgrade system is lengthy and boring.

This game makes me remember how good FFX is/was.

[nub]

I made it to Gran Pulse with all the open training paths and having all the chars open and I am still falling asleep at the controller. Even the weapon/item upgrade system is lengthy and boring.

This game makes me remember how good FFX is/was.

I don't like the upgrade system either, I just like gaining levels and learning things. I think the materia system was way better, but then again that also took a shit load of time to do.

I do not like the weapon/item upgrade system at all.

[LadyLaphrael]

I'm usually all for playing a game like this through once for absolute completion, but trying to farm enough silvers or the rare drop on a single creature to make a single ultimate weapon was completely uninteresting to me. FF-13 just has no replay value whatsoever. I'll go back and spend my time replaying Mass Effect 1 and 2.

[nub]

I'm usually all for playing a game like this through once for absolute completion, but trying to farm enough silvers or the rare drop on a single creature to make a single ultimate weapon was completely uninteresting to me. FF-13 just has no replay value whatsoever. I'll go back and spend my time replaying Mass Effect 1 and 2.

I guess upgrading weapons is 13's version of "side quests" or cool things you can do besides going through the story.

I remember snowboarding for hours on ff7.

[Divinity]

I guess upgrading weapons is 13's version of "side quests" or cool things you can do besides going through the story.

I remember snowboarding for hours on ff7.

<3 the mini games in FF7. I worked the hell out of that cycle and club, bashing the followers and all that. Oh! The mog game too. :D

FFXIII is just ridiculous. If I want to farm for gil I might as well go back to FFXI. Meh. Just.. meh.