help training polearm bard

[Telfaahga]

half-elf, what should I change/add with the 206 physical points I have?

(at level 47), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 150 50
Combat Maneuvers...................| 148 48
Polearm Weapons....................| 198 98
Physical Fitness...................| 120 30
Dodging............................| 120 30
Harness Power......................| 148 48
Elemental Mana Control.............| 105 25
Elemental Lore - Air...............| 148 48
Perception.........................| 105 25
Climbing...........................| 120 30
Swimming...........................| 120 30

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 15

Spell Lists
Bard...............................| 40
Training Points: 206 Phy 0 Mnt

[kookiegod]

half-elf, what should I change/add with the 206 physical points I have?

(at level 47), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 150 50
Combat Maneuvers...................| 148 48
Polearm Weapons....................| 198 98
Physical Fitness...................| 120 30
Dodging............................| 120 30
Harness Power......................| 148 48
Elemental Mana Control.............| 105 25
Elemental Lore - Air...............| 148 48
Perception.........................| 105 25
Climbing...........................| 120 30
Swimming...........................| 120 30

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 15

Spell Lists
Bard...............................| 40
Training Points: 206 Phy 0 Mnt

Personally, this looks great, i'd try to get the dodging up to 1x for more DS or the PF up for more semidux in the future.

This is my polearm bard, but not further along, got into my ranger for combat skills, but the bard is my fave to RP

(at level 21), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 82 18
Combat Maneuvers...................| 102 24
Polearm Weapons....................| 146 46
Physical Fitness...................| 114 28
Dodging............................| 99 23
Magic Item Use.....................| 54 11
Harness Power......................| 93 21
Elemental Lore - Air...............| 93 21
Mental Lore - Manipulation.........| 10 2
Mental Lore - Telepathy............| 40 8
Perception.........................| 25 5
Climbing...........................| 50 10

Spell Lists
Bard...............................| 21
Training Points: 12 Phy 0 Mnt (24 Phy converted to Mnt)

~Paul

[LOL BRIELUS]

half-elf, what should I change/add with the 206 physical points I have?

(at level 47), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 150 50
Combat Maneuvers...................| 148 48
Polearm Weapons....................| 198 98
Physical Fitness...................| 120 30
Dodging............................| 120 30
Harness Power......................| 148 48
Elemental Mana Control.............| 105 25
Elemental Lore - Air...............| 148 48
Perception.........................| 105 25
Climbing...........................| 120 30
Swimming...........................| 120 30

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 15

Spell Lists
Bard...............................| 40
Training Points: 206 Phy 0 Mnt

IMO, you can bring down perception, air to 30, bring down EMC (sharing is for weaklings!) and armor down to 35 until you can squeeze in 425-430. imo, these are awesome for polearmers. you can probably bring down climbing and swimming to 15 ranks each for more points. once you get 430, get 90 ranks of armor ASAP, then bring dodge up to 1x, then come back here for a tune up! good luck

[Vagabondbard]

Also Harness Power should be one per level. Your 47th level it should be 47.

Physical Fitness at 30? Did ya get hit points after 24? Are you in Sunfist? I should have read more I guess...If your strapped for points consider going to HP max and then coming back to it for sunfist Stamina points or Cmans.


Mana Share....Whichever one decides how 1013 works is a good one to have at 24. I think thats Mental Mana Share. 1013 is a god send especially as you find wands during hunts...free mana.

Im also a big proponent of learning in stages...by the next fixskill will you get 90 in Armor? If not then I would propose making it 35 for brig or the 50 you have for augmented chain..just dont try to cast elemental spells while wearing it...

Climbing is ok where its at swimming doesnt have to be 30 anytime soon.

What to do with the extra? What CMans do you have? Can you swing at lance at 5 seconds? You need 425 and 430. Get them.

GBB

[Telfaahga]

thanks for the help I swing a lance at 6 seconds, I am gonna work on getting to 425 and 430 for now and cut down on some current stuff at fixskills time.

[Telfaahga]

anyone help me out with places to hunt? I normally hunt kiramon and trali in en but maybe want to move to another town for a while any suggestions?

[LOL BRIELUS]

pretty soon you can do stone trolls and stone giants in landing.

[Telfaahga]

(at level 48), your base skill bonuses, ranks and goals are:
Skill Name | Actual Actual
| Bonus Ranks Goals In-Game Time to Goal
Armor Use..........................| 150 50 50
Combat Maneuvers...................| 150 50 50
Polearm Weapons....................| 200 100 100
Physical Fitness...................| 114 28.705 25 1 day, 6 hours, 13 minutes
Dodging............................| 120 30 30
Harness Power......................| 149 49 49
Elemental Mana Control.............| 102 24.137 0 22 days, 3 hours, 37 minutes
Elemental Lore - Air...............| 148 48 48
Perception.........................| 105 25 25
Climbing...........................| 120 30 30
Swimming...........................| 114 28.274 15 7 days, 9 hours, 33 minutes

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 20 25 ASAP (will rise when points are available)

Spell Lists
Bard...............................| 40 40

how's that look?

[Gibreficul]

My bard is a sword/board "balanced" build, about level 49 or 50. I'm of the school where you should keep your PF at 1x because you WILL get redux, and that spell 425 and 430 are priority over any bard spells you may learn. (430 is more important than 1040, at least I think so.)

Just my 3.23 cents. (fucking inflation) :wtf:

[Telfaahga]

Bumping this thread as I having been playing a lot recently (after taking a break) and had some more bard related questions hopefully someone can help me out with.

I am a polearm bard and I basically just "1005 critter, kill critter" That is my hunting strategy 1005 is such a consistent spell I don't need to use anything else and I hunt with sonic pike and sonic armor(augchain) and I am usually using haste bracelets to bring my RT to 3 seconds(I would need at my current level +9 bonus to AGI/DEX combined to swing at 5 seconds).

My build /// (half-elf)

(at level 57)
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 163 63
Combat Maneuvers...................| 163 63
Polearm Weapons....................| 218 118
Physical Fitness...................| 120 30
Dodging............................| 158 58
Magic Item Use.....................| 30 6
Harness Power......................| 158 58
Elemental Lore - Air...............| 120 30
Mental Lore - Telepathy............| 58 12
Perception.........................| 105 25
Climbing...........................| 105 25
Swimming...........................| 105 25

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 31

Spell Lists
Bard...............................| 42

My question is because of my build and the way I hunt when can I stop training in spell ranks? How many ranks of Minor Elem circle should I have? How many ranks should I stop at for bard spells? Or should I continue to raise it forever? ( I don't really use any CS related spells///however I am always singing - 03, 06, 07, 10, 19)

And also was wondering about armor use, do most bards stick with aug chain as the heaviest they will go?

[Reltov420]

Love my bard, this build is effective to the point of being broken, at his current level.


at level 44), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Two Weapon Combat..................| 173 73
Armor Use..........................| 160 60
Combat Maneuvers...................| 146 46
Edged Weapons......................| 192 92
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 120 30
Physical Fitness...................| 146 46
Dodging............................| 108 26
Harness Power......................| 146 46
Mental Mana Control................| 90 20
Elemental Lore - Air...............| 120 30
Mental Lore - Telepathy............| 93 21
Perception.........................| 5 1
Climbing...........................| 70 15
Swimming...........................| 25 5

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 4

Spell Lists
Bard...............................| 40
Training Points: 20 Phy 19 Mnt

[Shaps]

Armor Use..........................| 163 63
Combat Maneuvers...................| 163 63
Polearm Weapons....................| 218 118
Physical Fitness...................| 120 30
Dodging............................| 158 58
Magic Item Use.....................| 30 6
Harness Power......................| 158 58
Elemental Lore - Air...............| 120 30
Mental Lore - Telepathy............| 58 12
Perception.........................| 105 25
Climbing...........................| 105 25
Swimming...........................| 105 25

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 31

Spell Lists
Bard...............................| 42

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The only thing I would think of changing, would be dropping CM to 1x per level and armor by 3 ranks and maybe a few of dodge... and up PF to 2x per level.

You would lose a bit of AS (shouldn't matter), 3 ranks armor is meh, and a few ranks of dodge wouldn't be to big a hit (Mirrors makes up for it IMO).

But 2x PF would aid in Manuever defense, give you a lot more stamina, health regen, and Redux.

Or maybe up PF to 100 ranks and let it sit while you bring back up the other skills, but that would give you a good 10-15 levels with over 1x PF to up the redux.

Also get 5 ranks of MOC so you can swing and hit 2 creatures.

[Suppressed Poet]

I'll answer your last question. Augmented chain is the heaviest you can go. Beyond that, your spell hindrance will become ridiculous and it is just not worth it. So you can do one of the following:

1) Stop at 60 ranks of armor use and you will have the minimum hindrance on Bard Base.

2) Stop at 90 ranks of armor use and you will also have the above plus the minimum hindrance on MinE. (if you ewave)

3) Stop at 100 ranks and you will have all of the above, plus a reduction to the maneuver penalty.

Personally, I'd stick with option #1 for now and eventually work towards #3 post cap.

[Telfaahga]

I'll answer your last question. Augmented chain is the heaviest you can go. Beyond that, your spell hindrance will become ridiculous and it is just not worth it. So you can do one of the following:

1) Stop at 60 ranks of armor use and you will have the minimum hindrance on Bard Base.

2) Stop at 90 ranks of armor use and you will also have the above plus the minimum hindrance on MinE. (if you ewave)

3) Stop at 100 ranks and you will have all of the above, plus a reduction to the maneuver penalty.

Personally, I'd stick with option #1 for now and eventually work towards #3 post cap.

Thanks for the help, going to drop 3 ranks and sit at 60 for now then.