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Galleazzo
03-19-2004, 12:24 PM
They got the al-Qaeda 2nd in command holed up, what should they do when they nail him?
Parkbandit
03-19-2004, 12:27 PM
MOAB.
Period.
Zeyrin
03-19-2004, 12:28 PM
I'm all for the 9/11 survivor's group thing. Pour pig's blood on them after they die so their souls will be unclean to enter heaven.
Galleazzo
03-19-2004, 12:32 PM
Something's wrong, the whole poll went funky.
Siefer
03-19-2004, 12:44 PM
The Pakistani's probably won't get him. 7000 troops for a 30km area doesn't seem like much to me. I think the U.S. is making a mistake here, just as they did when they let the Afghans try to capture bin Laden at Tora Bora. People were bribed and he got away. Still, I hope they get him alive.
TheEschaton
03-19-2004, 12:47 PM
There's already some reports that he's slipped out.
Unsubstantiated, of course, but it's not even substantiated that he's there.
-TheE-
Parkbandit
03-19-2004, 12:56 PM
I'm actually surprised that we haven't heard a Kerry backer declare that the whole 'cornered' thing was cooked up by Bush due to today being the 1 year anniversary of the Iraq War... and that he wants to reflect attention from it.
The day is still young though.
Latrinsorm
03-19-2004, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by Zeyrin
I'm all for the 9/11 survivor's group thing. Pour pig's blood on them after they die so their souls will be unclean to enter heaven. Guys who planned 9/11 aren't going to need any pig's blood to be unclean.
ThisOtherKingdom
03-19-2004, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by Latrinsorm
Originally posted by Zeyrin
I'm all for the 9/11 survivor's group thing. Pour pig's blood on them after they die so their souls will be unclean to enter heaven. Guys who planned 9/11 aren't going to need any pig's blood to be unclean.
They don't follow the same religion as you, genius.
HarmNone
03-19-2004, 03:19 PM
Personally, I wish these "Well, we may have cornered him but we aren't sure" items would not be treated as "news". It will be news when the leaders are caught. It is not news when somebody thinks maybe one of them might be trapped somewhere. :rolleyes:
HarmNone
Ravenstorm
03-19-2004, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by Parkbandit
I'm actually surprised that we haven't heard a Kerry backer declare that the whole 'cornered' thing was cooked up by Bush due to today being the 1 year anniversary of the Iraq War... and that he wants to reflect attention from it.
The day is still young though.
And then a Bush supporter will blame Clinton when the guy gets away.
Raven
Snapp
03-19-2004, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by HarmNone
Personally, I wish these "Well, we may have cornered him but we aren't sure" items would not be treated as "news". It will be news when the leaders are caught. It is not news when somebody thinks maybe one of them might be trapped somewhere. :rolleyes:
HarmNone
I completely agree. I'm always very doubtful when any kind of "news" like this comes out. Maybe and might aren't words that belong in NEWS.
Parkbandit
03-19-2004, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by Ravenstorm
Originally posted by Parkbandit
I'm actually surprised that we haven't heard a Kerry backer declare that the whole 'cornered' thing was cooked up by Bush due to today being the 1 year anniversary of the Iraq War... and that he wants to reflect attention from it.
The day is still young though.
And then a Bush supporter will blame Clinton when the guy gets away.
Raven
Well, he did... nevermind :saint:
Skirmisher
03-19-2004, 04:15 PM
I'm a Kerry backer!
I declare that the whole 'cornered' thing was cooked up by Bush due to today being the 1 year anniversary of the Iraq War... and that he wants to reflect(err I mean deflect) attention from it.
Respectfully,
~The Edine
Parkbandit
03-19-2004, 04:18 PM
I hate Skirmisher.:thumbsdown::down:
TheEschaton
03-19-2004, 05:55 PM
And then a Bush supporter will blame Clinton when the guy gets away.
/mock seriousness
Well, everything that goes wrong IS Clinton's fault. You see, President's don't affect anything while they're ACTUALLY in office, but after. That's why Clinton's to blame for 9/11, and Reaganomics is why the economy boomed in the 90s.
/end mock seriousness
-TheE-
Artha
03-19-2004, 06:44 PM
Never mind Clinton did actually refuse an offer by the Syrian government to turn over Osama.
Of course, it's more fun to parody conservatives endlessly than actually realise most of us stopped blaming things on Clinton awhile ago.
TheEschaton
03-19-2004, 06:46 PM
Not Ann Coulter, and apparently she's supposed to represent the Republican viewpoint. ;)
-TheE-
Artha
03-19-2004, 06:48 PM
She's kind of extreme, if you haven't noticed.
Skirmisher
03-19-2004, 07:57 PM
Originally posted by TheEschaton
Not Ann Coulter, and apparently she's supposed to represent the Republican viewpoint. ;)
-TheE-
Al Franken did simply devestate her in his book showing time after time where she flat out lied. It was quite amusing and far better researched than I thought it would be.
Artha
03-19-2004, 08:02 PM
Speaking of Franken and lies...
http://www.lyingliar.com/
Ravenstorm
03-19-2004, 08:40 PM
Originally posted by Artha
Of course, it's more fun to parody conservatives endlessly than actually realise most of us stopped blaming things on Clinton awhile ago.
I'd say it's probably right up there with the parodying of liberals endlessly.
Raven
Artha
03-19-2004, 08:57 PM
At least there's occasionally something new, rather than just saying 'Obviously, it's Clinton's fault'.
Hulkein
03-19-2004, 09:04 PM
Clinton made Ravenstorm say that.
AkMan
03-19-2004, 09:11 PM
I haven't been following this story very closely, but something I heard on the news the other night struck me as funny.
They reported that Pakistani troops had approached some compound that was surprisingly well guarded or some such, so they pulled back and brought in so many thousand troops and supplies in anticipation of seiging it.
My translation: They got their asses kicked and went to get more people and guns...but what makes them think the dude is still there? His cover is blown, wouldn't he move?
But what do I know.
Skirmisher
03-19-2004, 09:45 PM
I don't think its all that funny.
Lots of pakistani troops seem to be being killed and they are doing a job we should be appreciative of as we have not had too much success finding these guys ourselves.
Skirm we are not able to go into pakastan<sp> they have not Invited us, considering the area where the Pakistani troops, so we cant go in there and find them.
I whole heatedly appreciate the Pakistani's aid in the war on terrorism.
TheEschaton
03-20-2004, 12:35 AM
That's what confounds me, our duplicity on the Pakistan issue. Maybe it's cause I'm Indian that I'm biased, but....
Musharraf siezed power, in a military coup.
Pakistan sold nuclear secrets to rogue nations.
Pakistan has supported terrorism against the world's largest democracy.
Pakistan was the place all the Taliban and Al Qaeda fled to.
Pakistan's Secret Service has been known to actively sponsor Al Qaeda.
Pakistan has WMD.
Need I go on? And yet - they're our ally.
-TheE-
pakastan since 911 has not supported terrorism
pakastan has fought actively against al Qaeda
Nuclear secretes were not sold by the goverment but by the scientists.
TheEschaton
03-20-2004, 12:44 AM
The scientist who happens to be Musharraf's science advisor, and head of the Pakistani nuclear program.
And they haven't? Many people suggest that Pakistanis let Al Qaeda in when the U.S. invaded. The whole Daniel Pearle thing happened in Pakistan. It was DOCUMENTED that the ISI (the secret services of Pakistan) was helping and funding Al Qaeda.
Oh, and by the way? Saddam hasn't supported terrorism since 911 either.
I mean, really, use some fucking sense in your arguments.
-TheE-
TheE you seem not to understand where this stuff happend, The area they are in right now is all Tribal, NO pakastani troops have been there in over a decade.
Its not like america but I think you know that
Musharraf's "former" science advisor
but i believe there were others involved too who are getting simmilar treatment
[Edited on 3-20-2004 by The Edine]
Skirmisher
03-20-2004, 01:51 AM
Originally posted by TheEschaton
That's what confounds me, our duplicity on the Pakistan issue. Maybe it's cause I'm Indian that I'm biased, but....
Musharraf siezed power, in a military coup.
Pakistan sold nuclear secrets to rogue nations.
Pakistan has supported terrorism against the world's largest democracy.
Pakistan was the place all the Taliban and Al Qaeda fled to.
Pakistan's Secret Service has been known to actively sponsor Al Qaeda.
Pakistan has WMD.
Need I go on? And yet - they're our ally.
-TheE-
Well you really do know that it isnt complicated.
I don't think that Pakistan is doing this out of a feeling that they owe it to the world but as simply foreign relations and attempt at garering better economic and military concesions from the US.
That being said, thats how the world works and the number of countries leaping to join us at the moment is small.
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