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100% Wool
01-20-2010, 08:18 PM
shady business.
recently i put up a sale for a bard and received a ton of offers. one being a silver offer and 2 krolvin backslashers. this said person persists on pushing the sale but i keep telling them i don't want to go through the trouble of selling the backslashers. all of a sudden i get a PM from "person b" that their friend "tiner" wants a pair of krolvin backslashers. so i end up selling/trading the bard account.
also during this time. "person a" is asking me not to take anymore offers and that the account is sold. i get another PM from "person b" soon after offering me a bid like they were trying to see if i would pull some shit.
soon after "person b" starts ignoring me and recently i find out that this character "tiner" has been sold for weeks now and so i think man, maybe this person is lying about the wanting the backslashers. i have some sources that the new buyer of "tiner" is a stand up guy so yea.
so this brings me back to "person a" and "person b" being in cahoots just to hurry the sale.
long story short. i was a dumb ass for accepting the offers - realizing this all too late and making a hasty decision on my part. anyway, i can't believe the lengths people go through just to get an account/items. i'm butt-hurt at the fact that people do shit just like this and now i'm stuck with items.
person "a" is also offering to buy the backslashers now. and to return the account after i confronted them about the situation. rofl. i guess they didn't want me doing this. i also kept all the emails/ims/pms about everything just in case these people decide to say other wise.
i don't want to out the person right away so i'm keeping their identity hidden for now. but chances are i'll let the gs community know and to watch out for them.
and sure i could just suck it up and take persons a offer and just end things there but i'd rather keep the items and take a loss. at least you guys will know to keep away from these people.
Kitsun
01-20-2010, 08:35 PM
That is kinda fucked up.
A good thing to keep in mind is that most hustles/scams are done under a time pressure to limit the amount of time you have to gather facts. Anyone that is offering you a good deal is willing to let you have time to think things over.
shady business.
recently i put up a sale for a bard and received a ton of offers. one being a silver offer and 2 krolvin backslashers. this said person persists on pushing the sale but i keep telling them i don't want to go through the trouble of selling the backslashers. all of a sudden i get a PM from "person b" that their friend "tiner" wants a pair of krolvin backslashers. so i end up selling/trading the bard account.
also during this time. "person a" is asking me not to take anymore offers and that the account is sold. i get another PM from "person b" soon after offering me a bid like they were trying to see if i would pull some shit.
soon after "person b" starts ignoring me and recently i find out that this character "tiner" has been sold for weeks now and so i think man, maybe this person is lying about the wanting the backslashers. i have some sources that the new buyer of "tiner" is a stand up guy so yea.
so this brings me back to "person a" and "person b" being in cahoots just to hurry the sale.
long story short. i was a dumb ass for accepting the offers - realizing this all too late and making a hasty decision on my part. anyway, i can't believe the lengths people go through just to get an account/items. i'm butt-hurt at the fact that people do shit just like this and now i'm stuck with items.
person "a" is also offering to buy the backslashers now. and to return the account after i confronted them about the situation. rofl. i guess they didn't want me doing this. i also kept all the emails/ims/pms about everything just in case these people decide to say other wise.
i don't want to out the person right away so i'm keeping their identity hidden for now. but chances are i'll let the gs community know and to watch out for them.
and sure i could just suck it up and take persons a offer and just end things there but i'd rather keep the items and take a loss. at least you guys will know to keep away from these people.
Ok I'm the one who bought the Bard... no need to hide my identity...
I never pulled anything shady...
First I offered 10m, you accepted that and it overbid shortly...
From: xxx
To: xxxx
yea i'll definitely take silver bids at a $7.5 per mil exchange rate. but at the moment the current bid on the bard is $90 US. with a buyout of $120-150 [ havent really decided - hehe ] if you're interested just havent updated for this morning/today yet.
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 6:45 AM, <xxx> wrote:
then after a few emails I offered 15m buyout...
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 8:37 AM, Jae Tiu <xxx> wrote:
argh! can i keep your buyout offer into consideration? i'm looking for roughly in the 120-150 area for the bard. a friend of mine just sold a lvl 45 one for 175 and mine is way better as far as stat optimization, fix skills, etc and etc goes. and i feel like 150 is a great price along with the items she comes with.
after a couple emails I add 2 krol backslashers with the buyout offer
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 8:41 AM, xxx <xxx> wrote:
Yeah I understand. Id rather it be a buyout, but it is your character.
I agree it's a decent price bards are the best for resales, I've always wanted a bard and a voln fu'r... it seems to be a great combo. Most will want to buy for the utility, I want it to use.
I have a pair of Krol backslashers if you wanted them I could add on top, they are worth 1-1.5m each. But that is taxing out my fluid resources right now.
Eventually we come to a price of 17m and 2 krol backslashers
Subject: Re: Bard
From: xxxx
To: xxxx
and even that i cant guarantee. or we can just do the 17 and 2 backslashers and call it a deal. and whenever we both have time to do the transaction
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Jae Tiu <xxx> wrote:
hmm. i'd take 17 and the 2 krolvin backslashers. but you'd have to wait an hour or two until i can get my friend to log on for me to do the trade. i'm at work right now
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 5:33 PM, <xxx> wrote:
I got 18.5 right now i can spare... which is a bit off.
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 17:14:01 -0500
Subject: Re: Bard
From: xxx
To: xxx
which i think is fair. hehe.
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Jae Tiu <xxx> wrote:
20
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 5:03 PM, <xxx> wrote:
How much in straight silvers just to close the deal?
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:52:41 -0500
Subject: Re: Bard
From: xxx
To: xxxx
hehe. my main concern for you trade was going through the trouble of trying to sell the krolvin backslashers. if i can find someone this weekend to buy them for a decent price and you're still interested in the bard. i'll definitely make a deal
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 3:50 PM, <xxx> wrote:
a bit too much heh.
At one point I offered just to pay him his buyout offer in the emails, but he said he rather have the coin and slashers.
Then i get a msg today accusing me of scamming him... which of course I didn't appreciate so first I offered to just trade back the bard, he didnt want that...
I then offered to buy the slashers for 3m...
I have clips of our AIM convo's and emails back and forth, didn't include them all because there was alot... but this is how it went down...
I came out with my name here because I have nothing to hide, those who know me in game usually like me and know I'm trustworthy... I'm sure some people will take barumples side over mine, but I just wanted to say my side of the story.
Warriorbird
01-20-2010, 08:44 PM
Yeah. I believe 'scamming' a lot more if the people name names.
AestheticLife
01-20-2010, 08:52 PM
Anyone that is offering you a good deal is willing to let you have time to think things over.
Being a guy that used to pride himself on being a rather savvy merchant, I'm going to step up and suggest that this isn't the case.
I've had plenty of time-sensitive offers my way, most of which were from people desperate to sell their item, or acquire mine, which generally gave me the leverage needed to make a rather painless profit.
100% Wool
01-20-2010, 09:00 PM
i dont have time to post til about 2am but i will. nice job not putting everything in those emails.
Latrinsorm
01-20-2010, 09:30 PM
Overuse of ellipses vs. non-capitalization of i... whoever wins, English loses.
Warriorbird
01-20-2010, 09:33 PM
Overuse of ellipses vs. non-capitalization of i... whoever wins, English loses.
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Mighty Nikkisaurus
01-20-2010, 09:50 PM
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Alarke
01-20-2010, 10:18 PM
This is like a slowly building storm... it's not much to look at yet but I fully expect some nasty weather in the near future!
Just for additional information (not that I really paid enough attention to this post to understand what's going on here) I'm the one who bought Tiner a couple weeks ago and I had someone (100% Wool apparently) come to my thrak table today asking about buying those backslashers. It definitely wasn't me who showed interest in those swords...
edit: maybe my information will help provide some excitement to this thread, but it seems like a pretty dull situation really.
i dont have time to post til about 2am but i will. nice job not putting everything in those emails.
I just showed a few as to not have a screen scroll post...to sum it up... but here is the full clip... only thing edited is our email addresses so spam bots dont get it.... it goes from newest to oldest ...
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 2:57 PM, <xxx> wrote
Hey wont be around much untill tommorow evening, just at an airport now and wont have internet for long.
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 11:08:01 -0500
Subject: Re: Bard
From: xxx
To: xxx
i'm free all of today for the most part. feel free to IM me at iiroltonii
On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Jae Tiu <xxx> wrote:
nope. not til sunday i'm afraid.
On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Lin <xxx> wrote:
Are you around today?
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 00:15:27 -0500
Subject: Re: Bard
From:xxx
To: xxx
sounds good.
On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 12:13 AM, <xxx> wrote:
Sure If it don't take that long to get it transfered... I would assume Monday at the latest?
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 00:11:40 -0500
Subject: Re: Bard
From: xxx
To: xxx
npnp. i can consider the bard sold then?
On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 12:09 AM, <xxx> wrote:
Yeah I wont really be around next few days, doing traveling.
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 23:58:10 -0500
Subject: Re: Bard
From: xxx
To: xxx
sorry got pulled into the maternity ward. got busy. still at work for another 5 hours. then i got to rest a bit. but if you're okay with the deal. the bard is sold to you. just gotta do the transaction.
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 6:18 PM, <xxx> wrote:
Ug managed to talk me up, but ok... send me a msg when your on aim.
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 17:42:05 -0500
Subject: Re: Bard
From: xxx
To: xxx
and even that i cant guarantee. or we can just do the 17 and 2 backslashers and call it a deal. and whenever we both have time to do the transaction
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Jae Tiu <xxx> wrote:
hmm. i'd take 17 and the 2 krolvin backslashers. but you'd have to wait an hour or two until i can get my friend to log on for me to do the trade. i'm at work right now
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 5:33 PM, <xxx> wrote:
I got 18.5 right now i can spare... which is a bit off.
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 17:14:01 -0500
Subject: Re: Bard
From: xxx
To: xxx
which i think is fair. hehe.
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Jae Tiu <xxx> wrote:
20
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 5:03 PM, <xxx> wrote:
How much in straight silvers just to close the deal?
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:52:41 -0500
Subject: Re: Bard
From: xxx
To: xxx
hehe. my main concern for you trade was going through the trouble of trying to sell the krolvin backslashers. if i can find someone this weekend to buy them for a decent price and you're still interested in the bard. i'll definitely make a deal
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 3:50 PM, <xxx> wrote:
a bit too much heh.
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:50:22 -0500
Subject: Re: Bard
From:xxx
To: xxx
hehe. you never know! i'll keep you updated if you'd like. or well. you read the pc forums anyway -_-
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 3:47 PM, <xxx> wrote:
Yeah understood. I admit it is a good deal but since my paypal wasn't good enough I had to offer items you can get asap. When you offered the buyout range of 120-150 i tried to get near max with what I had. 15m and 2 of the backslashers that is. Now that your buyout has gone up, though I understand why as your bids have raised also.
I can't go higher then I offered I afraid. I guess I'll just have to accept this isnt gonna be for me.
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:41:26 -0500
Subject: Re: Bard
From: xxx
To: xxx
ah very true and i see what you're saying . but from my end the auction hasn't been up for even 7 days yet and then i have to go through the trouble of also finding someone to buy the krolvin backslashers as well. so it puts extra pressure on me as opposed to someone just offering $150-175 for a nice buyout . which i still think is a steal for a bard with perfect stats in voln and a fixskills. no need to buy a fixstat nor a fixskill potion. etc. ontop of the items she comes with which is at least worth 3ish mil. and then the account is also free to the person for another 3 weeks and no need for a character transfer. so for me just to settle on your buy out offer without even giving it a week is bad on my part. i hope you can understand. i dont mind you withdrawing your bid at all its perfectly fine and i see your point. and at the same time i prolonged it because i wont have time to do any account swapping and such til saturday/sunday. hehe.
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 3:30 PM, <xxx> wrote:
If you accept my buyout and list it as accepted then the offer is still good. Just I can't keep it up there while your still taking offers as it was a Buyout.
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:27:00 -0500
Subject: Re: Bard
From: xxx
To: xxx
hehe. hopefully. but im in no rush to sell it. account is still free for another 3 weeks. i extended the auction. was gonna sell it to u tmrw but hehe we're having time conflictions. its cool though. thanks for the interest !
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 3:24 PM, <xxx> wrote:
Yeah just I wont be able to access this game for a few days after tonight or the internet much for that matter, so I think you'll hve it gone by then.
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:20:08 -0500
Subject: Re: Bard
From: xxx
To: xxx
yep. no problem. if you change your mind. i'll be free saturday
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 3:19 PM, <xxx> wrote:
Ah i thought that was for last night. Ok good luck with your sale, it's too bad we couldnt work it out.
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:18:09 -0500
Subject: Re: Bard
From: xxx
To: xxx
yep. i already told you though it cant be done tonight. i'll be at work for the next 12 hrs i wont be free til saturday
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 3:15 PM, <xxx> wrote:
Ok understood, If it can't be done tonight I'm just going to withdraw my offer.
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:12:52 -0500
Subject: Re: Bard
From:xxx
To: xxx
ah i would prefer the 15m and 2 krol slashers. i already have a $130 bid from someone
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 3:10 PM, <xxx> wrote:
If you would accept the buyout of 130$ cash, i'll send it through paypal, just it will take a week to clear. You can ask on pc if i'm trustworthy. I've never pulled anything fast before and a few know me on there.
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:08:20 -0500
Subject: Re: Bard
From: xxx
To: xxx
still cant guarantee on someone holding the silvers or i'd say yes
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 2:46 PM, <xxx> wrote:
So yea or nea on the deal?
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 06:24:06 -0500
Subject: Re: Bard
From: xxx
To: xxx
i have a buyer for the silvers already so the longest you would have to wait is tomorrow. i only say sunday because i dont want to guarantee anything. haha. this trade is getting more complicated than it should be. even i would be hesitant on it. let me see if i can get someone trustworthy to hold the silvers backslashers. a lot of ppl on the pc forums can vouch for me too. known ardwen for 10 years now.
but yeah. let me see what i can do. hehe.
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 6:18 AM, <xxx> wrote:
Yeah, I can send the money through paypal, I'm trustworthy you can ask on pc if your not sure. I deal alot with Ardwen, Viv and Plur. And my paypal is verified. If you want to do it that way.
I can do the items, but Id rather not have to wait on completing the deal.
Let me know either way.
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 06:12:11 -0500
Subject: Re: Bard
From: xxx
To: xxx
hmm. my situation is my cleric account just sold and also my premium account. and i would have no one to hold the silvers and krolvin backslashers.
the only way i would be able to do this right now is if you gave me the silvers and krolvin slashers today and you would have to wait til sunday to receive the account so i have this weekend to sell the silvers on the pc forums. but thats a big trust issue there.
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 5:47 AM, <xxx> wrote:
I can use paypal, it's just it takes about a week to clear. I've used it with friends who trust me and advance me whatever i've bought.
I've never used western union because it has no safetys, and i think thier fee's are pretty high.
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 02:58:00 -0500
Subject: Re: Bard
From: xxx
To: xxx
hmm. curious. i remember you had said paypal is a big issue for you. what if you were to western union the money?
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 2:06 PM, <xxx> wrote:
Yeah Id love it problem with cash it takes me a while to have a transaction completed as I use a paypal through canadian bank. If you accept the offer thats fine, I understand we can't do the trade untll friday/saturday... Infact it may be next week because friday/satuday/sunday will be very hard for me.
So if you accept the offer i don't mind doing that, just dont want to leave it as a bid.
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 11:16:41 -0500
Subject: Re: Bard
From: xxx
To: xxx
hehe. no problem. only reason i wouldnt take the offer now is i have no time to do the transaction til friday/saturday maybe even sunday due to 12 hour shifts at the hospital this week
if you're still interested by the time the weekend comes around. let me know. i'll also keep you updated on bids if you'd like. its currently at $100.
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 10:12 AM, <xxx> wrote:
Yeah it was a buyout offer I'm afraid. If you want to hold out, I'll withdraw it for now.
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 10:11:22 -0500
Subject: Re: Bard
From: xxx
To: xxx
sometime during the week if thats possible. still waiting on offers but so far i think i might take your 15m and 2 krol slashers.
On
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:39 AM,<xxx> wrote:
Would you like to do this today?
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 08:50:07 -0500
Subject: Re: Bard
From: xxx
To:xxx
i'll get an appraisal on the backslashers if thats okay with you. haven't been in the game in a long time. and would also like to see the interest in them as far as resell value goes since i have no need for items.
i'll keep you updated on any changes or if you decide to offer more. let me know if you decide on any more bids. thanks for your interest!
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 8:41 AM, <xxx> wrote:
Yeah I understand. Id rather it be a buyout, but it is your character.
I agree it's a decent price bards are the best for resales, I've always wanted a bard and a voln fu'r... it seems to be a great combo. Most will want to buy for the utility, I want it to use.
I have a pair of Krol backslashers if you wanted them I could add on top, they are worth 1-1.5m each. But that is taxing out my fluid resources right now.
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 08:38:40 -0500
Subject: Re: Bard
From: xxx
To: xxx
i can also take that as a bid. haha. it may be a winning one. anyway. your choice. but i'd rather wait just a LITTLE longer for the buyout price i'm asking for.
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 8:37 AM, Jae Tiu <xxx>
There all the emails, people have our full dialogue through email. As I was 'apparently' hiding something. I have our full AIM convo also if needed.
You had a chance to take my paypal, or even more silvers, but you took 17m and the two krol slashers. You had other options, when you wrote me saying you were unhappy, I first offered to reverse the deal totally, you passed, then I offered to pay you 3m for the slashers which is the max value I gave them in the emails.
Over the emails you tried to have a buyout offer sit for a couple days, which to me is a bid not a buyout. I am happy I got the character, I'm sorry you felt I ripped you off, but that isn't the case.
If you feel I should post the AIM msg's I will, but I feel its really unnessary.
I also don't plan on commenting any more on this thread. I posted everything I had on my side because I have nothing to hide.
Celephais
01-20-2010, 11:04 PM
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I like where this is headed.
Not zimzum material though.
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Mathari
01-20-2010, 11:33 PM
Man, reading that series of emails is exhausting. Either take a buyout or don't. What's with all the
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Makkah
01-21-2010, 12:34 AM
Lindsay Diamond sounds like a really ugly pornstar.
waywardgs
01-21-2010, 01:02 AM
This is what happens when you deal with bards.
Also, to the OP: you got payment, in whatever form, so what's the gripe?
Edit: It is shitty, though, Sile, that you originally left the email address in your posts.
2nd edit:
"Subject: Re: Bard
From: xxx
To: xxx
sorry got pulled into the maternity ward. got busy."
Don't email while giving birth.
100% Wool
01-21-2010, 04:39 AM
not sure you're even reading your emails right. i never once accepted your 10 mil bid. you're also twisting words and not adding my replies or IM messages. ontop of that the emails you provided have nothing to do with why i'm complaining. and you've sidestepped the whole reason why i IM'd you about earlier.
i would also like to add when i confronted you about it all you could say was you can have the account back or i'll even offer to bid on your backslashers.
guilty much?
i also don't think others are understanding why i'm mad. i never once said she didn't pay or refused to pay or anything of that matter. she completed her side of the deal and it went fine. my problem isn't with the transaction itself but how it happened and people can stoop so low just to get a sale as soon as possible. i took the blame as far as maybe being a little too hasty with the transactions which is totally my fault. but you went out of your way with an extra account or a friends to lead me to believe i would have a potential buyer for the krolvin backslashers so that i would made the trade with you.
she wanted the buyout said and done with so she could get the account before i got any actual bids and offered the money and backslashers. i didn't want the backslashers and insisted it would be hard for me to sell.
subject RE: Bard
mailed-by hotmail.com
hide details Jan 14 (7 days ago)
Yeah I understand. Id rather it be a buyout, but it is your character.
I agree it's a decent price bards are the best for resales, I've always wanted a bard and a voln fu'r... it seems to be a great combo. Most will want to buy for the utility, I want it to use.
I have a pair of Krol backslashers if you wanted them I could add on top, they are worth 1-1.5m each. But that is taxing out my fluid resources right now.
this is right after she offered the krolvin backslashers and when i asked on the pc forums about how much they are worth
A friend of mine was looking for some awhile back, I may have a buyer if you decide to sell.
somegsdude
"still waiting on some appraisals if you dont mind the wait. if you friend has any offers i'm op
en to hear them."
He says he'll offer 4m for the set.
somegsdude
01-14-2010, 09:44 AM
they currently are not in my possession and are awaiting a trade in progress
He said he will offer the 5m if you can get it tonight.
Sorry. Impossible for me to get tonight. Have a 12 hour shift at the hospital. I won't be able to do the trade with the person til Friday/Saturday. Maybe even Sunday to be quite honest.
01-14-2010, 10:41 AM
From Sile, right after talking/during PM's with Somegsdude
Quote:
Originally Posted by 100% Wool
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sile
I'm the one who offered you coin + the krol backslashers just if you wanted to know. If you choose to take the offer as buyout please let me know.
"i definitely will. its the backslashers in the trade that bother me on the resell value is all." <--me
Yeah I think they will sell pretty quick to be honest. Your bard would just be sweet for me, but i'm sure alot feel the same.
somegsdude again. 01.14.2010
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somegsdude
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Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 58
Re: Krolvin backslasher
Quote:
Originally Posted by 100% Wool
"curious. who is the one interested in the krol slashers?"
My buddie Tiner, he don't have an account on here.
somegsdude again, after Sile emailed me about not taking anymore bids. this happened right after.
[ sorry i'm an honesty merchant. always have been. i don't pull bullshit. and the people who thought i had fake bidders. lol. if you noticed those items with anonymous bids....they are sold and gone and even went out of my way for any anonymous bidders to let them use initials or something so it can have a name attached to the bid ]
i guess sile thought i would take more bids even though i made the deal with her already and she tried to check if i was lying or not -_-
Yeah sure, hey I'd like to put in a bid of 150 for your bard
anyway i have no problem with sile as a buyer. she paid what she offered and i agreed to it. got no problem there.
but for someone to go out of there to get me to think i had a potential buyer for the backslashers so that i would be more reluctant to believe the trade was in my best interest.
not to mention that person went out of there way to either. just give me any name for the fake buyer. or use an old character he had sold weeks ago. before this even happened.
like wow, really?
as you can see in the PM's from "somegsdude" [ thats his handle ] was trying for me to get the backslashers right away. and how else could i do that? by making the trade with Sile.
like i said before. your emails prove that i agreed to the transaction. yea thats totally great but the transaction and deal went fine. you're just an ass and so is your friend. or second account.
feel free to do some research and note the times and pm's were being sent. almost instantly. and any time i hesitated in the emails i would get a PM from somegsude that he would offer more each day i waited.
i had a long week at the hospital so i wasn't in a rush to sell. reread the emails. never once i in a rush to sell the account.
she kept on pushing for it and somegsdude kept on pming me
and right after the transaction with sile happened [ which again. went totally fine ] somegsdude stop responding to my pms. and what happens next?
i go find tiner in game...and oh what? he's been sold?......weeks ago??? nooooooooooo.......
like i said...
"shady business"
so let me just make this clear if i havent' already. the transaction went fine. i'm not mad about the transaction. i dont feel ripped off. we made a deal for 17mil and the backslashers. i got them. sile got ameiya. and about paypal you said it would take you forever for money to be sent. and from what i understand your e-checks are fail from a previous deal you made with someone [ i found this out later ] but thats the other person's business if they want to talk about it.
sitting on the buyout offer? i never agreed to anything until the last day. i was busy all week. was in no rush to sell what so ever. feel free to reread those emails. and you still stray away from the fault i'm pointing fingers at. i never said u ripped me off or never held up your part of the bargain.
i'm butt-hurt at the fact you pulled a scheme just to get the bard right away. is this what happened to the gs community? people pulling schemes for characters/accounts?
Swami71
01-21-2010, 04:53 AM
If somegsdude was so eager to buy the backslashers why didn't he just buy them directly from Sile before the trade then give you the silvers from that. Weird :shrug:
EDIT: also your thread says CB: $130. He paid you in silver and backslashers (worth 3m) at an exchange rate of 7.5 per. So he paid you 14 mil and backslashers?
100% Wool
01-21-2010, 05:03 AM
that CB wasn't his/hers it was someone elses. that was the CB before his/her buyout offer.
If somegsdude was so eager to buy the backslashers why didn't he just buy them directly from Sile before the trade then give you the silvers from that. Weird
haha. you know i never noticed that. somegsdude knew that i was still acquiring the items and that they weren't in my possession. he could of easily asked who had them and to make the deal with them. but like i said i blame myself for making hasty
transactions and not realizing anything til the end. its been a hectic week at work and dickheads keep calling out in the maternity ward and i'm getting swamped. and trying to run this auction i'm having with a metric fuckton of items.
and no for anyone asking i'm not totally butt-hurt that i'm stuck with the backslashers. if you noticed everything on my auctions are being sold for cheap. i'm leaving the lands. done with GS. i just want to get rid of everything and if someone happens to make money off me. totally fine. and if i happen to make an extra mil here or there to sell for $8...totally fine as well.
its the fact that ppl do some crazy ass shit just for a character/account. and people don't have to take my side. i barely know anyone anymore in GS. maybe a handful of people. and yea some people may know me but i won't go out of my way for them to vouch for me. all i'm doing is letting the pc forums know that "sile" and "somegsdude" like to pull shit and just to be careful.
Swami71
01-21-2010, 05:15 AM
Also pretty sure Lindsay is a dude.
EDIT: hrm this is a female bard in question. I based the male gender on the tank avatar and he/she compared their looks to Ron Jeremy.
100% Wool
01-21-2010, 06:21 AM
rofl @ this reputation thing. never even knew it existed. people are giving me bad rep with stuff like "how did you lose out" but anyway. lol @ bad rep. did you bother to read the thread? -_-
but anyway. i lulled at this green rep.
"You're an asshole for leaving. Part of me is literally dying because you're going. Anyway, big up to QB, holla atcha' boy Nas for me. Peace fam' -- S.B."
and about paypal you said it would take you forever for money to be sent. and from what i understand your e-checks are fail from a previous deal you made with someone [ i found this out later ] but thats the other person's business if they want to talk about it.
I said it will take a week, I've done many transactions through paypal, with quite a few people on here, just recently bought someones silvers who....
Gave me the silvers before it cleared
Wow I would like to hear about this 'previous deal' and who is actually saying this 'your e-checks are fail from a previous deal ' I'm verified on my paypal and have no disputes on there, and never have.
Back to blindly accusing me....
NocturnalRob
01-21-2010, 09:36 AM
this thread involves way too much screen scroll and not enough name-calling and personal attacks.
AnticorRifling
01-21-2010, 09:48 AM
this thread involves way too much screen scroll and not enough name-calling and personal attacks. That's pretty much what I got out of it too.
Someone give me the ADD version.
ElvenFury
01-21-2010, 09:59 AM
That's pretty much what I got out of it too.
Someone give me the ADD version.
http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID5699/images/cat_fight.jpg
NocturnalRob
01-21-2010, 10:13 AM
i tried. then i stopped reading when i realized it was all over a level 38 character.
Methais
01-21-2010, 10:27 AM
shady business.
recently i put up a sale for a bard and received a ton of offers. one being a silver offer and 2 krolvin backslashers. this said person persists on pushing the sale but i keep telling them i don't want to go through the trouble of selling the backslashers. all of a sudden i get a PM from "person b" that their friend "tiner" wants a pair of krolvin backslashers. so i end up selling/trading the bard account.
also during this time. "person a" is asking me not to take anymore offers and that the account is sold. i get another PM from "person b" soon after offering me a bid like they were trying to see if i would pull some shit.
soon after "person b" starts ignoring me and recently i find out that this character "tiner" has been sold for weeks now and so i think man, maybe this person is lying about the wanting the backslashers. i have some sources that the new buyer of "tiner" is a stand up guy so yea.
so this brings me back to "person a" and "person b" being in cahoots just to hurry the sale.
long story short. i was a dumb ass for accepting the offers - realizing this all too late and making a hasty decision on my part. anyway, i can't believe the lengths people go through just to get an account/items. i'm butt-hurt at the fact that people do shit just like this and now i'm stuck with items.
person "a" is also offering to buy the backslashers now. and to return the account after i confronted them about the situation. rofl. i guess they didn't want me doing this. i also kept all the emails/ims/pms about everything just in case these people decide to say other wise.
i don't want to out the person right away so i'm keeping their identity hidden for now. but chances are i'll let the gs community know and to watch out for them.
and sure i could just suck it up and take persons a offer and just end things there but i'd rather keep the items and take a loss. at least you guys will know to keep away from these people.
http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=49319
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