Sorcerer help needed.

[Chadj]

Alright, just as the title says. I wouldn't mind getting a few opinions on what to do with this sorcerer. I was asked to help come up with a possible new training plan, and I have some ideas, but not many, so gimmi a hand here.


xxxx(at level 41), your current skill bonuses and ranks (including all modifiers) are:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Armor Use..........................| 40 8
Physical Fitness...................| 142 42
Arcane Symbols.....................| 142 42
Magic Item Use.....................| 142 42
Spell Aiming.......................| 162 62
Harness Power......................| 162 62
Elemental Mana Control.............| 142 42
Spirit Mana Control................| 142 42
Sorcerous Lore - Demonology........| 140 40
Sorcerous Lore - Necromancy........| 70 15
Perception.........................| 50 10
Climbing...........................| 50 10
Swimming...........................| 50 10

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 35

Spell Lists
Minor Spirit.......................| 21

Spell Lists
Sorcerer...........................| 42
Training Points: 101 Phy 0 Mnt (1046 Phy converted to Mnt)
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[Script]>info
Name: xxxx Race: Dark Elf Profession: Sorcerer (not shown)
Gender: Male Age: 452 Expr: 1874610 Level: 41
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 54 (2) ... 54 (2)
Constitution (CON): 73 (6) ... 48 (-6)
Dexterity (DEX): 84 (27) ... 84 (27)
Agility (AGI): 82 (21) ... 82 (21)
Discipline (DIS): 87 (8) ... 87 (8)
Aura (AUR): 100 (35) ... 100 (35)
Logic (LOG): 85 (17) ... 85 (17)
Intuition (INT): 77 (18) ... 77 (18)
Wisdom (WIS): 98 (29) ... 98 (29)
Influence (INF): 57 (-2) ... 57 (-2)
Mana: 160 Silver: 2000

[Edited on 6-1-2005 by Chadj]

[Tromp]

why so much PF? I'd cut that down by 1/2.

Choose in demononolgy or necro not both unless you are 1x in each.

I personally stick with one type of mana control and 1x in it.

All those extra points i would shove in spells.

Brawling sorcies are fun.

[Chadj]

Question about Demonology and Necromancy.. which one is better to train in? Heh.

[Sean of the Thread]

I agree.

Less PF (wtf is it so high for)
Decide between necro/demon.. necro gives ya blood! Demon gives you 712 goodness.

I would go SPIRIT control.. lose the elemental. You will already be pwning at spell aim so why not make 111 a even more kick ass spell.

I would go brawling.. if you do you will need do shifting but you should still come out with extra extra points then in this set up. No need for so many magical ranks yet until your ready to infuse later on.

[Ebondale]

Isn't it six trains for Double, not eight?

[Parker]

I actually think it's 8, last I checked.

[Syberus]

6 for hindrance, 8 for manuever shit.

[Ebondale]

Originally posted by Syberus
6 for hindrance, 8 for manuever shit.

Sooo, a sorcerer would only need 6, right? :)

[Sean of the Thread]

Fulls are 6 right?

[Syberus]

fulls are 4 for manuver... but have no hidnrance so you technically don't need any armor training. I would recommend getting the 8 for doubles or 4 for fulls just to eliminate that penalty.. however small it might be.

[Janarth]

I'd keep 8 and wear doubles...no sense in taking the chance that yer a sitting duck for manuevers for that many tps. I'd definitely get 24ish ranks of PT and call it quits. Same with HP, 1x...its north 8 mtps to gain 1 mana point; you're 1x in shares and everyone is CoL these days, mana probably abounds. 1.5x is good for spell aiming, I'd personally 2x it though. My sorcerer is 1x shield and 1x brawling, I think you should 1x brawling, .5x shield. That should give you plenty of defense. Keep 1xing AS and miu though, its cheap, helps with scroll infusing, which is a great boon for us (the miu allows us both to charge the scrolls, and get the max use out of said scrolls and further give huge defensive benefits). I'd use the remaining points to 2.3x spells, like you seem to already do. As for lores...my points are tight, so I .75x demon lore and .25x necro. Thats not a lot of necro, but I can still use 701 to charge my health, and I routinely bb some stuff at the beginning of a hunt and leave them be (mostly younger stuff on the way) so I am constantly getting trickling healing, has saved me a coupla times. I .75x demon to get CoS up to par, stop at 50 ranks and then go all necro for lots of healing through 701 and a great 711. My thoughts, take them as you will.

[Chadj]

Well, this is what I think I'll do.. let me know what you think.

24 ranks of PF
1x Shield Use
1x Brawling
1x Arcane Symbols
1x Magic Item Use
1x Spell Aiming
1.5x Harness Power
1x Mana Control: Elemental
1x Mana Control: Spiritual
2.5x Spells
1x Lores (havn't decided which yet).

I assume this would work out pretty well?

[Tromp]

ditch one of the mana controls... most go for spiritual.

If you can do Voln you'll be pretty tough on the undead.

Looks good.

Pretty sure you won't have points to 1x in both at the same time anyway.

[Trinitis]

Originally posted by Tromp
ditch one of the mana controls... most go for spiritual.

If you can do Voln you'll be pretty tough on the undead.

Looks good.

Pretty sure you won't have points to 1x in both at the same time anyway.

I don't understand why people keep saying to ditch the mana controls. Do you not care about the mana you get per pulse?

[Janarth]

Yeah, seriously....Its fairly cheap to 1x both controls and the benefits are great. Lots of mana per pulse, nice cheap 16 mana FI, the ability to get mana from almost anyone, the ability to act as a mana converter...not to mention the whole rp thing. If you only train spiritual share, do you not use the 400 circle :p?