Jerky Cleaver

[m444w]

Tossing this up for offers. I want to pick up something new from a friend, and I don't have the coins lying around. Though, if you offer me something else I might like in trade, feel free.

It enhances ability to skin (nice way to save some TPs), and improves the quality of skin, which assists with skinning tasks from the AG, and the rewards you get from them. Also can toss high-demand skins up in your shop and make a good amount on them while helping yourself out with the AG.

A sharp meat cleaver.

makes jerky.

The fine edge of your meat cleaver gleams brightly a you begin skinning.
You skinned the rolton, yeilding a rolton pelt.
Not only are you able to skin the creature, but you are also able to use the meat cleaver to cut off a nice piece of meat for jerky!

You take a bite of your rolton jerky. The dried rolton meat tastes just right, a perfect blend of spice and natural flavoring.
You have 5 bites left.

[m444w]

bump

[Sam]

ballpark price?

[Drew]

I dunno what he wants but Jinsem just sold one for 8 or 10.

[m444w]

8 or 10?

[waywardgs]

Last one that went publically went for 150+m? in 7 minutes. Dunno what 8 or 10 means.

[Sam]

that's awfully high... unless I'm missing something. The jerky is just food that does nothing special, right?

[waywardgs]

The jerky is just a secondary effect. What it does is give an automatic increase to the value of your skins- it's ideal for a silver farmer. Can make a shit ton of money with it if you know what you're doing.

[Tordane]

The jerky is just a secondary effect. What it does is give an automatic increase to the value of your skins- it's ideal for a silver farmer. Can make a shit ton of money with it if you know what you're doing.

Pretty sure the meat cleaver does nothing for value of skins. It just increases your skill and quality level of skin. No percent based % to value of skin like some of the uber skinning weapons.

[m444w]

While it doesn't increase the value, it increases quality which affects BPs. I don't know about 150 mill nice... But, it is very nice. And while it isn't one of the uber-instant perfect value/quality ones, it is still very useful for maximizing BPs.

And you can always sell those high-demand skins out of your shop at a premium to those people that want it. Or give your MAing team just enough ranks to get skinning tasks and pimp them out with all the skinning tasks you can find.

[phantasm]

It would be good for earning some extra BP's, good luck if you plan on making back the 150m with it.

[Inspire]

And while it isn't one of the uber-instant perfect value/quality ones, it is still very useful for maximizing BPs.




I'm curious about the uber-instant perfect skinner. Does it always produce a skin of the same value when skinning the same creature?

Would an enhancive 604 be more valuable, because with lores you can pump the maximum value up 10%?

[Sam]

So there are cleavers that give you perfect value/quality skins every time?

[m444w]

there is one knife. I doubt it well ever move.

[m444w]

I'm curious about the uber-instant perfect skinner. Does it always produce a skin of the same value when skinning the same creature?

Would an enhancive 604 be more valuable, because with lores you can pump the maximum value up 10%?


I dunno. Never owned it.

[waywardgs]

While it doesn't increase the value, it increases quality which affects BPs.

Doesn't quality of the skin affect price you get at the skinner?

[m444w]

quality of skin and price are not perfectly correlated from what I have seen. You might get an exceptional skin worth 1500, and then a magnificent worth 1000. It is really weird.

[Stunseed]

That being said, the cleaver can make you silvers even above the flat skin prices.

Since it jumps quality, if someone were to skin war griffins or rift critters for their bounties, you would get a substancial increase to your BPs per task which gets you to the fixskill/fixstat rapidly.

EDIT: What Lulz said.

[m444w]

Not really for sale anymore, considering the item I want sold. If you want to trade for it, feel free to contact me.

[phantasm]

The nicest thing about this cleaver, which everyone seemed to overlook



It enhances ability to skin (nice way to save some TPs)


You can make a very minimal investment into skinning skills, use this cleaver and complete bounties that you otherwise would not have been able to do at all.

Its not that it increases the value, or the amount of bounty points, but that it will assist you in doing the bounty with a character that is otherwise unable.

Not sure how much it enhances your skinning ability, but I assume for 150m its quite a substantial amount.

[AnticorRifling]

That would be a dangerous assumption. I'd need to see the data on how much of an enhancive it is. Can I get 1 rank and now i'm skinning war griffins? Or does it enhance my ability by say 10 ranks? Too much is unknown about the enhancive as it's presented. But you're right there is potential for value there.

[Archigeek]

I think the cleavers are nifty, but not enough is known about how they work for me to properly determine value.

As for the value of skins. I think people sometimes get the two factors confused. Quality, as in poor, fair, fine, exceptional, superb, outstanding or magnificient, and value, as in how many coins it is worth. Quality does not as far as I can tell, affect how many BP's you get for it when you turn it in, but rather affects whether or not it is acceptable at all. Only value in coins affects how many BP's you get. That said, if the guild asks for skins of exceptional quality and you suck at skinning, and you can't get exceptional skins, well then this cleaver might do the trick for you. Also I could be wrong, but if I am, the quality is only of minor impact.

So can you do a little research and quantify the benefits a little? From my personal perspective, I sell a lot of skins in my shop, and I set high standards so that my customers are happy and come back. While this cleaver might help me meet my minimum quality that I'll put on the shelf, I couldn't make an offer until I knew a little bit more about how much.

Thanks, Kerl

[exttior]

I had a chance to play with this cleaver years ago. Pretty nifty toy, but I wana say, it does increase % for better skinning for the user. I recall it being sold in the 20 million range, but that was in GS3. Still have some pieces of jerky left stuffed in a locker somewhere.

Caw caw caw!!!
Exttior Forcheese

[m444w]

Well, currently I have been working in the spare TPs to try to get the bare minimum training survival for skinning bounties (and the survival would help with bandit bounties which I am rather fond of). But, I am admittedly quite a few ranks from doing that yet so if you care to play around with it until then Kerl be my guest. I imagine you are a rather well trusted guy in the community and I have only heard honorable things about you.

[Archigeek]

I'd love to test it out. Generally running around Icemule these days. PM me and we can arrange for some testing time. I may be mostly having festival fun for the next few days, but I'm sure I'll still be up in the rift hunting/skinning some. -Kerl

[m444w]

Price added. If the shortsword sells, the cleaver goes off the market.

[phantasm]

Did anyone ever test this out and get a rough idea how much it enhances your skinning ability?

[m444w]

kerl did.

[Archigeek]

I tested it out quite a bit and found it to be pretty useful when skinning slightly above level critters with 1x FA/Survival skill. I had two goals in mind: a minimum quality desired as well as a minimum value. Depending on the difficulty of the critter I was trying to skin, it either helped a small amount (on very easy critters) or quite a bit more on more difficult critters. Not being too scientific about it, I felt that it increased my success at reaching my minimums on the more difficult of the two creatures from about 70% up to 95%. There was a negligible difference on the easier to skin critter. For reference, the critters were rift crawlers (the more difficult) and cerebralites (the easier), with minimum goals of 275 silver value and exceptional quality.

I got the impression that it improves your ability somewhere in the equation, but you couldn't really tell where, therefore the difference in benefit from easy vs difficult critters. It was clear that it doesn't just add a flat amount to either value or quality level or guarantee a minimum result.