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Swami71
01-07-2010, 06:08 AM
These results are a little obvious but I was surprised how little the shield size helped the Cleric.

SHIELD MELEE DS
100 train Dwarf Cleric with 101 Shield Use, 0 dodge
Stance Guarded
Small shield DS: +563
Medium shield DS: +571
Tower shield DS: +578

Stance Offensive
Small shield DS: +447
Medium shield DS: +451
Tower shield DS: +452

100 train Paladin 0 shield use 50 dodge
Stance Guarded
Small shield DS: +311
Medium shield DS: +307
Tower shield DS: +287

Stance Offensive
Small shield DS: +251
Medium shield DS: +247
Tower shield DS: +239

SHIELD BOLT DS
100 train Cleric with 101 Shield Use, 0 dodge
Stance Guarded
Small shield DS: +558
Medium shield DS: +579
Tower shield DS: +625

Stance Offensive
Small shield DS: +517
Medium shield DS: +528
Tower shield DS: +552

100 train Sylvan Paladin 0 shield use 50 dodge
Stance Guarded
Small shield DS: +356
Medium shield DS: +356
Tower shield DS: +356

Stance Offensive
Small shield DS: +297
Medium shield DS: +293
Tower shield DS: +290

Fallen
01-07-2010, 08:49 AM
Did you take a look at bolt DS? I think it really skews it towards towers over dodge training for pures, especially if you consider you will be outright blocking more shots with a tower too.

Swami71
01-07-2010, 08:55 AM
Did you take a look at bolt DS? I think it really skews it towards towers over dodge training for pures, especially if you consider you will be outright blocking more shots with a tower too.

Good thinking. About to go to bed I'll check it out later.

Nuc
01-07-2010, 01:31 PM
What enchant shield is that with? I thought the size formula took enchant into account, so a 10x tower had a higher DS compare with a 10x small shield than a 4x tower compared to a 4x small shield.

Swami71
01-07-2010, 06:11 PM
6x buckler, 6x medium shield, and 7x tower (I subtracted 5 DS from the towers results)

Swami71
01-07-2010, 10:02 PM
Updated OP

You were right Fallen tower shields are much more effective against bolts.

Asrial
01-10-2010, 06:39 PM
Shield enchant has no impact on the formula.

Swami71
02-05-2010, 09:56 AM
Updated the OP with races. Tower shield was better for my dwarf cleric but my elf with perfect stats a medium shield is better since his 40 AGI bonus counts as dodge.

dacatchman
02-08-2010, 04:17 PM
I know it's not easy to get a character with the right training, but seeing what dodge and shield use combined can do to the numbers would be even more interesting.

Small + Dodging vs. Tower + Dodging could be an interesting comparison.

Asrial
02-08-2010, 04:22 PM
I know it's not easy to get a character with the right training, but seeing what dodge and shield use combined can do to the numbers would be even more interesting.Shield Size Comparison Program: http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=49732

The DS Formulas: http://forum.gsplayers.com/showthread.php?t=43815

Everything you need to answer your questions.