Settled on a build - what did I screw up

[Savageheart]

About to fix skill with this today but figured before I did I'd throw it out there.


Stuck with poles I didnt want to fix my cmans and I actually am learning to love charge.

What am I missing folks
Im worried about the .75 dodge its a gamble but with Mirrors and Tonis who knows
Worried I wont be able to run Tonis reg... if so this build ends up useless.


Name: Savageheart Warls Race: Giantman Profession: Bard (shown as: Loresinger)
Gender: Male Age: 42 Expr: 1736642 Level: 40
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 100 (40) ... 100 (40)
Constitution (CON): 70 (20) ... 64 (17)
Dexterity (DEX): 83 (11) ... 87 (13)
Agility (AGI): 90 (15) ... 90 (15)
Discipline (DIS): 70 (10) ... 70 (10)
Aura (AUR): 100 (20) ... 100 (20)
Logic (LOG): 50 (-5) ... 50 (-5)
Intuition (INT): 52 (1) ... 52 (1)
Wisdom (WIS): 73 (11) ... 73 (11)
Influence (INF): 100 (30) ... 100 (30)
Mana: 131 Silver: 0

Yeah I know the stats are horrid results of an autoroller and never fixing my stats when III-IV came about - actually I think I fixed them for puring and then got lazy about fixing them back

Skills at lvl 40 (just hit)
Armor Use: 50 Ranks
Pole Arms: 84 Ranks (2x)
CM: 42 Ranks (1x)
PT: 42 Ranks (1x)
Dodge: 34 (.75x plus a kicker when extra pts avail)
Harness: 42 Ranks (1x)
MnE 7 Ranks (how much will I miss 414...)
Bard: 35 Ranks (can I run Tonis Steadily
AIR: 31 Ranks
Telepathy: 33 Ranks
Climbing: 15 Ranks
Swimming: 20 Ranks
Perception 24 Ranks

[NocturnalRob]

You messed up when you decided not to be a pure bard.

[Savageheart]

if your going to mettle with bards at least try to incorporate the pun and some candid whit with your sarcasm. We have higher standards than your average ITG thread.

On the serious though I did dabble with pure for a while pure its just not my thing, aside from which he's giantkin and the stats are seriously mal for it, his demeanor doesn't suit it, and I have around 10m in polearms sitting in my locker.

Not a lot for those of you who've been playing steadily over the years but in the last 16 or so I've kept this account active I've probably played 1 year out of 3 since the late 90s. Its a considerable investment for me.

[Drevihyin]

You messed up when you decided not to be a pure bard.


What's the fun of being the most effective hunter with a very small possibility of an unsuccessful hunt? Live on the edge just say no to being a pure bard!

Armor Use......................... 151 51
Shield Use........................ 192 92
Combat Maneuvers.............. 93 21
Edged Weapons................. 286 186
Multi Opponent Combat....... 165 65
Physical Fitness................. 192 92
Dodging.......................... 185 85
Magic Item Use...................108 26
Harness Power....................192 92
Elemental Mana Control........ 120 30
Elemental Lore - Air..............193 93
Mental Lore - Manipulation.....120 30
Mental Lore - Telepathy........ 163 63
Survival........................... 20 4
Perception......................... 160 60
Climbing...........................| 130 35
Swimming........................... 54 11
First Aid..........................| 105 25
Trading............................| 15 3
Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 47
Spell Lists
Bard...............................| 50

[Fallen]

Is level 40 high enough to be an effective pure bard?

[Danical]

Is level 40 high enough to be an effective pure bard?

yes.

[NocturnalRob]

if your going to mettle with bards at least try to incorporate the pun and some candid whit with your sarcasm.
whell, i'll definitely try to do that next time. sorry i whasn't able to live up to your whishes for this whonderfully perfect thread.

also, wat you said there makes no fucking sense. If you whant your bard to be sub-par, then rock polearms. And if you whant your bard to suck yak nuts, make him a OHE user. whord.

[Drevihyin]

Actually I think there is middle ground but what the hell do I know. The only thing a pure bard has on me is a little CS and they wear a bigger hat.

[Emislity]

Is level 40 high enough to be an effective pure bard?


Truthfully, not really. You're going to be dealing with mana issues, I personally didn't attempt becoming a pure until late 70's or early 80's. However, if you MA you can definitely become a pure at any level you can share properly at. Good luck though, to those of you that wanna become pure at level 40.

[Emislity]

About to fix skill with this today but figured before I did I'd throw it out there.


Skills at lvl 40 (just hit)
Armor Use: 50 Ranks
Pole Arms: 84 Ranks (2x)
CM: 42 Ranks (1x)
PT: 42 Ranks (1x)
Dodge: 34 (.75x plus a kicker when extra pts avail)
Harness: 42 Ranks (1x)
MnE 7 Ranks (how much will I miss 414...)
Bard: 35 Ranks (can I run Tonis Steadily
AIR: 31 Ranks
Telepathy: 33 Ranks
Climbing: 15 Ranks
Swimming: 20 Ranks
Perception 24 Ranks


I'm a capped pure bard, so I'm partial to pures... however I was once a polearm user and a OHE user. Not too long ago, I tried being a half pure and having the ability to still swing a blade. (I don't miss using a weapon, I missed being a pure.)

Here's some quick advice; If you're going to get CM, get odd numbers, each CM is increased with an odd number by 1 point. If you're going to do the whole 1005 and polearm get more HP, it'll do you some good. I would have worked more on Air than Telepathy. You're skills don't look that bad, a few minor changes and you could be fine. You could hunt the way you are now. You'll also want to remember your song of sword, it'll help you greatly in battle. When you get older, you'll want to rethink your training path, most bards do and some stay the way they are. We're around Gemstone if you need us, we're always willing to help you anytime you have questions.

Good luck.

[Danical]

Truthfully, not really. You're going to be dealing with mana issues, I personally didn't attempt becoming a pure until late 70's or early 80's. However, if you MA you can definitely become a pure at any level you can share properly at. Good luck though, to those of you that wanna become pure at level 40.

Truthfully, it absolutely is possible. I did a solo pure from level 0.

I used 1002 and brawling weapons until I got 1030. Once you get 1030, hunt swarming places. Make use 1013 and 1018.

My progression:
rats, hobs, mants/thraks, mercs/warriors, Anwyn, warfs, hisskra, Oteska, Flows, Temple, Tower, OTF.

[Kithus]

My progression:
rats, hobs, mants/thraks, mercs/warriors, Anwyn, warfs, hisskra, Oteska, Flows, Temple, Tower, OTF.

I have to say, I fell asleep just thinking about your hunting progression. Aside from Anwyn and the Flows that has got to be the most boring hunting you could do at any given level.

[Durgrimst]

I have to say, I fell asleep just thinking about your hunting progression. Aside from Anwyn and the Flows that has got to be the most boring hunting you could do at any given level.

And now he is like 3.5x cap

[Savageheart]

Back to the point on CMs old school rules (before the changes) dictated a 1x per... I'm really not caught up on the last 5 years of evolution in the game mechanics.

I understand the odd numbers statement but can you give a rough estimate of a training regime? .75 .5 ect?

[Danical]

I have to say, I fell asleep just thinking about your hunting progression. Aside from Anwyn and the Flows that has got to be the most boring hunting you could do at any given level.

I hunted shan, illoke, mages, and the rift too but got bored with them quickly; nothing in GS is challenging.

Unfortunately, neither Nelemar nor Bowels was open before I capped.

[Danical]

I have to say, I fell asleep just thinking about your hunting progression. Aside from Anwyn and the Flows that has got to be the most boring hunting you could do at any given level.

Just as an aside, what would you propose as "exciting" (lulz) hunting?

[Kithus]

Oh you're right nothing is entirely exciting but a lot of the things you listed are essentially bigger versions of the giant rat. My preferred hunting areas for "a challenge" on my sorcerer included:

Wood Sprites/Bendiths/Ursians
Shan
Griffins Keen
Stronghold
Bowels
The Rift


All that said, if I want "exciting" at this point I pop into a grimswarm camp.

[Savageheart]

when your done with the ruler... Both of you still know more about the cman question than I do heh.

[Danical]

Oh you're right nothing is entirely exciting but a lot of the things you listed are essentially bigger versions of the giant rat. My preferred hunting areas for "a challenge" on my sorcerer included:

Wood Sprites/Bendiths/Ursians
Shan
Griffins Keen
Stronghold
Bowels
The Rift


All that said, if I want "exciting" at this point I pop into a grimswarm camp.

I thought the Keen was boring as hell, personally.

I've uphunted all those areas except the bowels (obviously) and I think they're fun to break up the monotony for few hunts but I was more interested in quick exp gain. My one regret is I didn't hunt Dark Stone.

[Danical]

Back to the point on CMs old school rules (before the changes) dictated a 1x per... I'm really not caught up on the last 5 years of evolution in the game mechanics.

I understand the odd numbers statement but can you give a rough estimate of a training regime? .75 .5 ect?

1x+ if you can swing the points.

[Savageheart]

Heck with it for better or worse here she is
Armor Use..........................| 150 50
Combat Maneuvers...................| 142 42
Polearm Weapons....................| 184 84
Physical Fitness...................| 142 42
Dodging............................| 124 32
Harness Power......................| 141 41
Elemental Lore - Air...............| 126 33
Mental Lore - Telepathy............| 126 33
Perception.........................| 102 24
Climbing...........................| 90 20
Swimming...........................| 90 20

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 7

Spell Lists
Bard...............................| 35