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Coin
12-17-2009, 05:48 PM
Nothing else taken into consideration other than Profession vs Profession, which Profession has the advantages in the following comparisons?

Warrior

1. Warrior vs Sorcerer. Which profession has the advantage going in?

2. Warrior vs Cleric. Which profession has the advantage going in?

3. Warrior vs Empath. Which profession has the advantage going in?

4. Warrior vs Paladin. Which profession has the advantage going in?

5. Warrior vs Wizard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

6. Warrior vs Rogue. Which profession has the advantage going in?

7. Warrior vs Bard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

8. Warrior vs Ranger. Which profession has the advantage going in?

9. Warrior vs Monk (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

10. Warrior vs Savant (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?


Sorcerer

1. Sorcerer vs Warrior Which profession has the advantage going in?

2. Sorcerer vs Cleric. Which profession has the advantage going in?

3. Sorcerer vs Empath. Which profession has the advantage going in?

4. Sorcerer vs Paladin. Which profession has the advantage going in?

5. Sorcerer vs Wizard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

6. Sorcerer vs Rogue. Which profession has the advantage going in?

7. Sorcerer vs Bard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

8. Sorcerer vs Ranger. Which profession has the advantage going in?

9. Sorcerer vs Monk (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

10. Sorcerer vs Savant (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?


Wizard

1. Wizard vs Sorcerer. Which profession has the advantage going in?

2. Wizard vs Cleric. Which profession has the advantage going in?

3. Wizard vs Empath. Which profession has the advantage going in?

4. Wizard vs Paladin. Which profession has the advantage going in?

5. Wizard vs Warrior. Which profession has the advantage going in?

6. Wizard vs Rogue. Which profession has the advantage going in?

7. Wizard vs Bard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

8. Wizard vs Ranger. Which profession has the advantage going in?

9. Wizard vs Monk (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

10. Wizard vs Savant (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?


Empath

1. Empath vs Sorcerer. Which profession has the advantage going in?

2. Empath vs Cleric. Which profession has the advantage going in?

3. Empath vs Warrior. Which profession has the advantage going in?

4. Empath vs Paladin. Which profession has the advantage going in?

5. Empath vs Wizard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

6. Empath vs Rogue. Which profession has the advantage going in?

7. Empath vs Bard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

8. Empath vs Ranger. Which profession has the advantage going in?

9. Empath vs Monk (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

10. Empath vs Savant (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?


Cleric

1. Cleric vs Sorcerer. Which profession has the advantage going in?

2. Cleric vs Warrior. Which profession has the advantage going in?

3. Cleric vs Empath. Which profession has the advantage going in?

4. Cleric vs Paladin. Which profession has the advantage going in?

5. Cleric vs Wizard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

6. Cleric vs Rogue. Which profession has the advantage going in?

7. Cleric vs Bard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

8. Cleric vs Ranger. Which profession has the advantage going in?

9. Cleric vs Monk (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

10. Cleric vs Savant (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?


Rogue

1. Rogue vs Sorcerer. Which profession has the advantage going in?

2. Rogue vs Cleric. Which profession has the advantage going in?

3. Rogue vs Empath. Which profession has the advantage going in?

4. Rogue vs Paladin. Which profession has the advantage going in?

5. Rogue vs Wizard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

6. Rogue vs Warrior. Which profession has the advantage going in?

7. Rogue vs Bard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

8. Rogue vs Ranger. Which profession has the advantage going in?

9. Rogue vs Monk (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

10. Rogue vs Savant (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?


Paladin

1. Paladin vs Sorcerer. Which profession has the advantage going in?

2. Paladin vs Cleric. Which profession has the advantage going in?

3. Paladin vs Empath. Which profession has the advantage going in?

4. Paladin vs Warrior. Which profession has the advantage going in?

5. Paladin vs Warrior. Which profession has the advantage going in?

6. Paladin vs Rogue. Which profession has the advantage going in?

7. Paladin vs Bard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

8. Paladin vs Ranger. Which profession has the advantage going in?

9. Paladin vs Monk (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

10. Paladin vs Savant (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?


Bard

1. Bard vs Sorcerer. Which profession has the advantage going in?

2. Bard vs Cleric. Which profession has the advantage going in?

3. Bard vs Empath. Which profession has the advantage going in?

4. Bard vs Paladin. Which profession has the advantage going in?

5. Bard vs Wizard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

6. Bard vs Warrior. Which profession has the advantage going in?

7. Bard vs Rogue. Which profession has the advantage going in?

8. Bard vs Ranger. Which profession has the advantage going in?

9. Bard vs Monk (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

10. Bard vs Savant (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?


Ranger

1. Ranger vs Sorcerer. Which profession has the advantage going in?

2. Ranger vs Cleric. Which profession has the advantage going in?

3. Ranger vs Empath. Which profession has the advantage going in?

4. Ranger vs Paladin. Which profession has the advantage going in?

5. Ranger vs Wizard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

6. Ranger vs Rogue. Which profession has the advantage going in?

7. Ranger vs Bard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

8. Ranger vs Warrior. Which profession has the advantage going in?

9. Ranger vs Monk (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

10. Ranger vs Savant (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?


Monk

1. Monk vs Sorcerer. Which profession has the advantage going in?

2. Monk vs Cleric. Which profession has the advantage going in?

3. Monk vs Empath. Which profession has the advantage going in?

4. Monk vs Paladin. Which profession has the advantage going in?

5. Monk vs Wizard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

6. Monk vs Rogue. Which profession has the advantage going in?

7. Monk vs Bard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

8. Monk vs Ranger. Which profession has the advantage going in?

9. Monk vs Warrior (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

10. Monk vs Savant (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?


Savant

1. Savant vs Sorcerer. Which profession has the advantage going in?

2. Savant vs Cleric. Which profession has the advantage going in?

3. Savant vs Empath. Which profession has the advantage going in?

4. Savant vs Paladin. Which profession has the advantage going in?

5. Savant vs Wizard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

6. Savant vs Rogue. Which profession has the advantage going in?

7. Savant vs Bard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

8. Savant vs Warrior. Which profession has the advantage going in?

9. Savant vs Monk (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

10. Savant vs Ranger (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

HaroldAndMaud
12-17-2009, 05:50 PM
Warrior Vs Sorcerer....I would say the Sorcerer has the advantage. The ability to spell itself up easier, and the CS factor vs the lower TD of a warrior...I would say the Sorcerer wins in this matchup.

pabstblueribbon
12-17-2009, 05:51 PM
Go away plz.

Celephais
12-17-2009, 06:03 PM
|Bard|Cleric|Empath|Ranger|Rogue|Sorcerer|Wizard|W arrior|Paladin|Monk|Savant
Bard|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Cleric|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Empath|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Ranger|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Rogue|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Sorcerer|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Wizard|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Warrior|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Paladin|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Monk|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Savant|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
*Whoever attacks first

Stunseed
12-17-2009, 06:04 PM
Haha, table owned. Good job Celephais.

(Boob page still doesn't work. Sadface.)

Celephais
12-17-2009, 06:09 PM
Haha, table owned. Good job Celephais.

(Boob page still doesn't work. Sadface.)
:( I know... server won't boot from DVD to recover ... hard drives still intact, I can rebuild it, better, stronger, faster, but I don't want to spend a lot of money
http://www.pisitoenmadrid.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/six_million_dollar_man.jpg

Parkbandit
12-17-2009, 06:18 PM
|Bard|Cleric|Empath|Ranger|Rogue|Sorcerer|Wizard|W arrior|Paladin|Monk|Savant
Bard|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Cleric|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Empath|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Ranger|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Rogue|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Sorcerer|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Wizard|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Warrior|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Paladin|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Monk|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Savant|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
*Whoever attacks first

/endthread

Soulpieced
12-17-2009, 06:25 PM
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Drew
12-17-2009, 06:26 PM
|Bard|Cleric|Empath|Ranger|Rogue|Sorcerer|Wizard|W arrior|Paladin|Monk|Savant
Bard|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Cleric|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Empath|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Ranger|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Rogue|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Sorcerer|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Wizard|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Warrior|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Paladin|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Monk|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Savant|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
*Whoever attacks first

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ElvenFury
12-17-2009, 06:30 PM
Coin, this thread has nothing to do with the "who's the toughest" thread, made by that alt that isn't you, AMIRITE?!

CharlesStankowitz
12-17-2009, 06:32 PM
Nothing else taken into consideration other than Profession vs Profession, which Profession has the advantages in the following comparisons?

Warrior

1. Warrior vs Sorcerer. Which profession has the advantage going in?

2. Warrior vs Cleric. Which profession has the advantage going in?

3. Warrior vs Empath. Which profession has the advantage going in?

4. Warrior vs Paladin. Which profession has the advantage going in?

5. Warrior vs Wizard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

6. Warrior vs Rogue. Which profession has the advantage going in?

7. Warrior vs Bard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

8. Warrior vs Ranger. Which profession has the advantage going in?

9. Warrior vs Monk (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

10. Warrior vs Savant (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?



I agree with Harold about the first one. I think the Sorcerer would have the natural advantage.

Warrior vs Cleric. Which profession has the advantage going in?

I'm gonna go with the Cleric on this one. Similar to the Sorcerer, the Cleric would be able to spell itself up (perhaps even better), and then it would have the same CS advantage that the sorcerer would have over the Warrior.

Warrior vs Empath. Which profession has the advantage going in?

I'd go with the Warrior on this one. The reason why is because the Empath only has so many defense spells, doesn't really have that many actually, and the AS of the Empath would be weak against the AS of the Warrior. The CS would not be too much of a problem for the Warrior because most Empaths probably don't even train twice in spells each level, because it costs more for an Empath to train in other things. So the Warrior would have a decent TD against most Empaths of like age.

Warrior vs Paladin. Which profession has the advantage going in?

I don't know enough about a Paladin to comment.

Warrior vs Wizard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

I'd say the Warrior has the advantage. Because a Wizard's CS would be pretty weak for the most part and it's CS spells are limited. The Defense of a Wizard could be very nice, but the offense of the warrior would surpass it in my opinion with a few combat meneuvers factored in. The Wizard does have some very nice spells but the Warrior trains well in dodge and I think it would counter-act them fairly nicely.

Warrior vs Rogue. Which profession has the advantage going in?

In the open the Warrior has the advantage. But once the rogue hides, it's all over. So these two cancel eachother out for the most part.

Warrior vs Bard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

The biggest hurdle for the warrior would be the Bard's defense. Add that to the fact that a Bard can get a pretty good offense going, and the Warrior would have quite a problem there. Not to mention the fact that warding a Bard's spells is different than warding Sorcerer spells and Wizard spells. I'm going to give the natural advantage to the Bard for this one.

Warrior vs Ranger. Which profession has the advantage going in?

I'd say the Warrior would win out in this case. Rangers are good with their ranged weapons and all, but many have to kneel in order to use them well. And when this happens, the Warrior would have a field day.

Warrior vs Monk (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

Don't know enough about a Monk to comment.

Warrior vs Savant (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

Don't know enough about a Savant to comment.

HaroldAndMaud
12-17-2009, 06:46 PM
I think the Empath is weak against ALL other professions.

With that said it also just happens to probably be the most efficient hunter in the game. But that's a whole nother subject all-together.

waywardgs
12-17-2009, 06:48 PM
Someone's got a lot of time on their hands, you know what I mean, Harold, coin and Charles?

thefarmer
12-17-2009, 06:54 PM
I don't know enough

Good point.

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Coin
12-17-2009, 07:00 PM
I agree with Harold about the first one. I think the Sorcerer would have the natural advantage.

Warrior vs Cleric. Which profession has the advantage going in?

I'm gonna go with the Cleric on this one. Similar to the Sorcerer, the Cleric would be able to spell itself up (perhaps even better), and then it would have the same CS advantage that the sorcerer would have over the Warrior.

Warrior vs Empath. Which profession has the advantage going in?

I'd go with the Warrior on this one. The reason why is because the Empath only has so many defense spells, doesn't really have that many actually, and the AS of the Empath would be weak against the AS of the Warrior. The CS would not be too much of a problem for the Warrior because most Empaths probably don't even train twice in spells each level, because it costs more for an Empath to train in other things. So the Warrior would have a decent TD against most Empaths of like age.

Warrior vs Paladin. Which profession has the advantage going in?

I don't know enough about a Paladin to comment.

Warrior vs Wizard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

I'd say the Warrior has the advantage. Because a Wizard's CS would be pretty weak for the most part and it's CS spells are limited. The Defense of a Wizard could be very nice, but the offense of the warrior would surpass it in my opinion with a few combat meneuvers factored in. The Wizard does have some very nice spells but the Warrior trains well in dodge and I think it would counter-act them fairly nicely.

Warrior vs Rogue. Which profession has the advantage going in?

In the open the Warrior has the advantage. But once the rogue hides, it's all over. So these two cancel eachother out for the most part.

Warrior vs Bard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

The biggest hurdle for the warrior would be the Bard's defense. Add that to the fact that a Bard can get a pretty good offense going, and the Warrior would have quite a problem there. Not to mention the fact that warding a Bard's spells is different than warding Sorcerer spells and Wizard spells. I'm going to give the natural advantage to the Bard for this one.

Warrior vs Ranger. Which profession has the advantage going in?

I'd say the Warrior would win out in this case. Rangers are good with their ranged weapons and all, but many have to kneel in order to use them well. And when this happens, the Warrior would have a field day.

Warrior vs Monk (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

Don't know enough about a Monk to comment.

Warrior vs Savant (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

Don't know enough about a Savant to comment.

Alright now so far based upon what you just said there brother, we have a tally of 3 wins (prof vs prof) for the warrior and 2 losses (prof vs prof) for the Warrior.

So the Warrior is currently 3 and 3 with 1 Draw (prof vs prof) unless someone else can change that equation.

CharlesStankowitz
12-17-2009, 07:03 PM
Alright now so far based upon what you just said there brother, we have a tally of 3 wins (prof vs prof) for the warrior and 2 losses (prof vs prof) for the Warrior.

So the Warrior is currently 3 and 2 (prof vs prof) unless someone else can change that equation.

Sounds about right to me I mean the Monk and the Savant really not much is known about them yet anyways, and the Paladin and Warrior I would imagine would cancel eachother out similar to the Rogue vs Warrior. But if not, then most likely the Paladin would win. But I know literally nothing about a Paladin because I haven't played one before. But, if the Paladin does have the natural advantage over the Warrior, then the Warrior would be 3 and 4 with 1 Draw (prof vs prof).

Coin
12-17-2009, 07:10 PM
Alright now before I mark down the Warrior for a 3 and 3 profession vs profession record I just want to make sure that we are all in agreeance with what Charles posted above. If anyone disagrees with any of his Warrior vs Prof assessments please say so now before I make it an official 3 and 3 and 1 record.

Dwarven Empath
12-17-2009, 07:25 PM
Hands down rogue.

1...2...3... fight!

Hide

Ambush any character neck.

Of course with a 10x maul with imo flares.

mgoddess
12-17-2009, 07:27 PM
|Bard|Cleric|Empath|Ranger|Rogue|Sorcerer|Wizard|W arrior|Paladin|Monk|Savant
Bard|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Cleric|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Empath|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Ranger|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Rogue|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Sorcerer|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Wizard|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Warrior|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Paladin|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Monk|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Savant|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
*Whoever attacks first
:yeahthat:

Coin
12-17-2009, 07:49 PM
Alright then it is official. The Warrior when it comes to profession vs profession has a record of 3 wins and 3 losses at the moment. With 1 Draw between the Warrior and the Rogue.

Onto the Sorcerer next please Charles. If you could....

Dwarven Empath
12-17-2009, 07:51 PM
Rogue wins all, thread closed.

CharlesStankowitz
12-17-2009, 08:15 PM
Sorcerer

1. Sorcerer vs Warrior Which profession has the advantage going in?

2. Sorcerer vs Cleric. Which profession has the advantage going in?

3. Sorcerer vs Empath. Which profession has the advantage going in?

4. Sorcerer vs Paladin. Which profession has the advantage going in?

5. Sorcerer vs Wizard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

6. Sorcerer vs Rogue. Which profession has the advantage going in?

7. Sorcerer vs Bard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

8. Sorcerer vs Ranger. Which profession has the advantage going in?

9. Sorcerer vs Monk (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

10. Sorcerer vs Savant (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?



Sorcerer vs Warrior Which profession has the advantage going in?

Alright I've already gone over this one so we don't need to again. Sorcerer beats Warrior hands down when it comes to natural advantage.

Sorcerer vs Cleric Which profession has the advantage going in?

A very interesting matchup indeed. Both professions have the ability to raise their TD, both of them have the ability to immobilize eachother through their CS, both have a good number of CS spells to work with. But the Cleric has something that the sorcerer usually doesn't have, which is some what of an AS (Attack Strength) when swinging a weapon. Therefore, in this case, I would have to go with the Cleric. And just as in real life, The Light always overwhelmes the Dark.

Sorcerer vs Empath. Which profession has the advantage going in?

This one is easy. And as Harold mentioned before, the Empath is naturally weak against all other profession types. So the Sorcerer wins in this case too.

Sorcerer vs Paladin. Which profession has the advantage going in?

I would imagine that the Sorcerer would have natural advantage over the Paladin just as it does with the Warrior, even though the Paladin might do better when it comes to warding the spells. However, since I do not know much about Paladins, and have never played one, I cannot comment too much on this matchup. So until someone does I would leave it out of the grand total for the tally just as you did with the Warrior's wins and losses.

Sorcerer vs Wizard Which profession has the advantage going in?

You know, this one is too tough to call. The Wizards spells are tough for a Sorcerer to counter, and the Sorcerers spells are tough for a Wizard to counter. Therefore, just as in the case with the Warrior and the Rogue, I think this matchup is a draw. And should not be included in the total tally.

Sorcerer vs Rogue Which profession has the advantage going in?

In this matchup I believe that the Sorcerer has the natural advantage over the rogue. No matter how well the Rogue can hide, the Sorcerer has too many spells which can turn the table in the Sorcerer's direction. If the Rogue is hiding and a Sorcerer casts quake, and the Rogue falls to the ground, then all the Sorcerer needs to do then is cast Implosion and the Rogue will surely be brought out from the darkness. The Sorcerer can get it's defense up pretty high as well, on it's own, with it's own spells, and so therefore it would be extremely tough for the AS of the Rogue to beat the Defense of the Sorcerer. So in this matchup I give the win to the Sorcerer for having the natural advantage over the Rogue.

Sorcerer vs Bard Which profession has the advantage going in?

I'm leaning towards the Sorcerer on this one. The Bard does have some TD raising spells I am fairly certain, but it doesn't have enough to self spell itself to get a higher TD than the Sorcerer would have CS. And not only that, but just as with the Rogue and Warrior, the Sorcerer has many more ways to nuetralize a Bard than a Bard has to neutralize a Sorcerer. So in this matchup I give it to the Sorcerer.

Sorcerer vs Ranger Which profession has the advantage going in?

I'm going to go ahead and give this one to the Ranger. The reason why is because alot of the Ranger spells involve maneuvering in order to ward them, which a Sorcerer is not very good at doing at all. In fact many Sorcerers don't train in Dodging at all, which leaves them completely vulnerable to many of a Rangers spells. If the Ranger could spell itself up well enough, it could probably withstand most of the Sorcerers attacks. Also, Rangers are very nimble, and so that would neutralize alot of the Sorcerer spells as well that would normally throw things in the Sorcerer's direction (Quake, Elemental Wave, Major Elemental Wave, etc.). But yeah all in all I gotta give it to the Ranger on this matchup.

Sorcerer vs Monk (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

Don't know enough about Monks to comment.

Sorcerer vs Savant (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

Don't know enough about Savants to comment.

Coin
12-17-2009, 08:21 PM
Sorcerer vs Warrior Which profession has the advantage going in?

Alright I've already gone over this one so we don't need to again. Sorcerer beats Warrior hands down when it comes to natural advantage.

Sorcerer vs Cleric Which profession has the advantage going in?

A very interesting matchup indeed. Both professions have the ability to raise their TD, both of them have the ability to immobilize eachother through their CS, both have a good number of CS spells to work with. But the Cleric has something that the sorcerer usually doesn't have, which is some what of an AS (Attack Strength) when swinging a weapon. Therefore, in this case, I would have to go with the Cleric. And just as in real life, The Light always overwhelmes the Dark.

Sorcerer vs Empath. Which profession has the advantage going in?

This one is easy. And as Harold mentioned before, the Empath is naturally weak against all other profession types. So the Sorcerer wins in this case too.

Sorcerer vs Paladin. Which profession has the advantage going in?

I would imagine that the Sorcerer would have natural advantage over the Paladin just as it does with the Warrior, even though the Paladin might do better when it comes to warding the spells. However, since I do not know much about Paladins, and have never played one, I cannot comment too much on this matchup. So until someone does I would leave it out of the grand total for the tally just as you did with the Warrior's wins and losses.

Sorcerer vs Wizard Which profession has the advantage going in?

You know, this one is too tough to call. The Wizards spells are tough for a Sorcerer to counter, and the Sorcerers spells are tough for a Wizard to counter. Therefore, just as in the case with the Warrior and the Rogue, I think this matchup is a draw. And should not be included in the total tally.

Sorcerer vs Rogue Which profession has the advantage going in?

In this matchup I believe that the Sorcerer has the natural advantage over the rogue. No matter how well the Rogue can hide, the Sorcerer has too many spells which can turn the table in the Sorcerer's direction. If the Rogue is hiding and a Sorcerer casts quake, and the Rogue falls to the ground, then all the Sorcerer needs to do then is cast Implosion and the Rogue will surely be brought out from the darkness. The Sorcerer can get it's defense up pretty high as well, on it's own, with it's own spells, and so therefore it would be extremely tough for the AS of the Rogue to beat the Defense of the Sorcerer. So in this matchup I give the win to the Sorcerer for having the natural advantage over the Rogue.

Sorcerer vs Bard Which profession has the advantage going in?

I'm leaning towards the Sorcerer on this one. The Bard does have some TD raising spells I am fairly certain, but it doesn't have enough to self spell itself to get a higher TD than the Sorcerer would have CS. And not only that, but just as with the Rogue and Warrior, the Sorcerer has many more ways to nuetralize a Bard than a Bard has to neutralize a Sorcerer. So in this matchup I give it to the Sorcerer.

Sorcerer vs Ranger Which profession has the advantage going in?

I'm going to go ahead and give this one to the Ranger. The reason why is because alot of the Ranger spells involve maneuvering in order to ward them, which a Sorcerer is not very good at doing at all. In fact many Sorcerers don't train in Dodging at all, which leaves them completely vulnerable to many of a Rangers spells. If the Ranger could spell itself up well enough, it could probably withstand most of the Sorcerers attacks. Also, Rangers are very nimble, and so that would neutralize alot of the Sorcerer spells as well that would normally throw things in the Sorcerer's direction (Quake, Elemental Wave, Major Elemental Wave, etc.). But yeah all in all I gotta give it to the Ranger on this matchup.

Sorcerer vs Monk (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

Don't know enough about Monks to comment.

Sorcerer vs Savant (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

Don't know enough about Savants to comment.

Alright then so for the Sorcerer so far we have a grand total of 4 Wins and 2 Losses when it comes to it's Profession vs Profession Record. Does anyone disagree with this assessment? If so please speak up soon, if not I will mark it down as official as we move on to the next Profession.

So far we have:

Warrior - 3 Wins and 3 Losses With 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Sorcerer - 4 Wins and 2 Losses with 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Swami71
12-17-2009, 08:37 PM
Rogue wins all, thread closed.

Thread reopened

Sorcerer wearing MCP leathers survives ambush and cloak of shadows is activated. Rogue dies the end. SORCERERS RULE!!!!

:bleh:

jk

Very much agree with the philosophy of first to attack with the exception of a few wiffs or poor choice of first attack.

ElvenFury
12-17-2009, 08:49 PM
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WRoss
12-17-2009, 08:51 PM
I am baffled.

CharlesStankowitz
12-17-2009, 09:06 PM
Wizard

1. Wizard vs Sorcerer. Which profession has the advantage going in?

2. Wizard vs Cleric. Which profession has the advantage going in?

3. Wizard vs Empath. Which profession has the advantage going in?

4. Wizard vs Paladin. Which profession has the advantage going in?

5. Wizard vs Warrior. Which profession has the advantage going in?

6. Wizard vs Rogue. Which profession has the advantage going in?

7. Wizard vs Bard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

8. Wizard vs Ranger. Which profession has the advantage going in?

9. Wizard vs Monk (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

10. Wizard vs Savant (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?



Wizard vs Sorcerer. Which profession has the advantage going in?

We've already gone over this. The two cancel themselves out when it comes to natural advantage one over the other.

Wizard vs Cleric. Which profession has the advantage going in?

I think the Cleric would lose in this case. I just don't think the Cleric has enough natural spells and abilities to counteract what a Wizard can do to it. So, for this matchup I give it to the Wizard.

Wizard vs Empath. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Wizard wins.

Wizard vs Paladin. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Not sure. Don't know enough.

Wizard vs Warrior. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Wizard loses to the Warrior because it cannot naturally survive the onslaught of AS that the warrior can muster with it's manueverabilities as well as it's ability to absorb damage that the Wizard would attempt to cause.

Wizard vs Rogue. Which profession has the advantage going in?

I think the Wizard loses in this case because it just doesn't have the necessary tools to bring the Rogue out from the shadows. And the Rogue has many tools in which to bring down the Wizard, much in the same way that a Warrior can. But the hiding is what gives the Rogue the natural advantage over the Wizard in my opinion.

Wizard vs Bard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

I think the Bard wins in this case. I think that the Bard would have the best defense against the Wizard, as well as the ability to use it's AS against the Wizard as well. And a Bard can muster up a pretty decent AS, so that would be a problem for the Wizard. A Bard can dodge pretty well at the same time, so that would cause problems for the Wizard, and basicly, a Bard can pretty much neutralize anything a Wizard can do right down to it's very last spell.

Wizard vs Ranger. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Another interesting matchup. With everything taken into consideration though, the Ranger wouldn't have to worry about it's manueverability as much as would the Wizard in this matchup. Although the Ranger might not have a very good defense against the Wizard's spells, and might suffer the most from it other than an Empath would. It would be a close fight, but I would give the natural ability to win to the Wizard, because it just has more tools at it's disposal to take out the Ranger than the Ranger does to take out the Wizard.

Wizard vs Monk (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

Don't know nothin bout um.

Wizard vs Savant (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

Don't know nothin bout um.

Coin
12-17-2009, 09:14 PM
Wizard vs Sorcerer. Which profession has the advantage going in?

We've already gone over this. The two cancel themselves out when it comes to natural advantage one over the other.

Wizard vs Cleric. Which profession has the advantage going in?

I think the Cleric would lose in this case. I just don't think the Cleric has enough natural spells and abilities to counteract what a Wizard can do to it. So, for this matchup I give it to the Wizard.

Wizard vs Empath. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Wizard wins.

Wizard vs Paladin. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Not sure. Don't know enough.

Wizard vs Warrior. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Wizard loses to the Warrior because it cannot naturally survive the onslaught of AS that the warrior can muster with it's manueverabilities as well as it's ability to absorb damage that the Wizard would attempt to cause.

Wizard vs Rogue. Which profession has the advantage going in?

I think the Wizard loses in this case because it just doesn't have the necessary tools to bring the Rogue out from the shadows. And the Rogue has many tools in which to bring down the Wizard, much in the same way that a Warrior can. But the hiding is what gives the Rogue the natural advantage over the Wizard in my opinion.

Wizard vs Bard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

I think the Bard wins in this case. I think that the Bard would have the best defense against the Wizard, as well as the ability to use it's AS against the Wizard as well. And a Bard can muster up a pretty decent AS, so that would be a problem for the Wizard. A Bard can dodge pretty well at the same time, so that would cause problems for the Wizard, and basicly, a Bard can pretty much neutralize anything a Wizard can do right down to it's very last spell.

Wizard vs Ranger. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Another interesting matchup. With everything taken into consideration though, the Ranger wouldn't have to worry about it's manueverability as much as would the Wizard in this matchup. Although the Ranger might not have a very good defense against the Wizard's spells, and might suffer the most from it other than an Empath would. It would be a close fight, but I would give the natural ability to win to the Wizard, because it just has more tools at it's disposal to take out the Ranger than the Ranger does to take out the Wizard.

Wizard vs Monk (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

Don't know nothin bout um.

Wizard vs Savant (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

Don't know nothin bout um.

Alright so according to this assessment what we have is a total of 2 wins and 4 losses with 1 Draw for the record of Profession vs Profession when it comes to a Wizard.

So far we have:

Warrior - 3 Wins and 3 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Sorcerer - 4 Wins and 2 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Wizard - 2 Wins and 4 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Swami71
12-17-2009, 09:15 PM
Alright so according to this assessment what we have is a total of 3 wins and 4 losses for the record of Profession vs Profession when it comes to a Wizard.

When you two find out which profession is best there value is going to sky rocket.

WRoss
12-17-2009, 09:31 PM
I bet they do rogue. Then buy Tsin for 1500 and sell him for 15000 Alaskan Dollars. They go to Anchorage and try and buy a hotel to rent out at an hourly rate, only to find out their Alaskan Dollars are really Confederate Dollars.

That is just a teaser of things to come.

Gelston
12-17-2009, 09:38 PM
when the South rises again, the value of Confederate money will skyrocket.

WRoss
12-17-2009, 09:38 PM
Don't ruin my book! It will be the best evar!

CharlesStankowitz
12-17-2009, 10:02 PM
Empath

1. Empath vs Sorcerer. Which profession has the advantage going in?

2. Empath vs Cleric. Which profession has the advantage going in?

3. Empath vs Warrior. Which profession has the advantage going in?

4. Empath vs Paladin. Which profession has the advantage going in?

5. Empath vs Wizard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

6. Empath vs Rogue. Which profession has the advantage going in?

7. Empath vs Bard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

8. Empath vs Ranger. Which profession has the advantage going in?

9. Empath vs Monk (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

10. Empath vs Savant (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?



Empath vs Sorcerer. Which profession has the advantage going in?

The Sorcerer wins in this case hands down. The Empath can't swing well enough to break through the Sorcerer's defenses, and it wouldn't have a high enough CS to break through the Sorcerer's TD defenses. Unfortunately, the only thing the Empath would be good at in this case is running into the next room to heal itself. If it could get that far.

Empath vs Cleric. Which profession has the advantage going in?

The Empath wouldn't be able to touch the Cleric as long as it remained in Defensive, and the Cleric has many different spells at it's disposal which could immbolize the Empath from being able to do anything at all with it's weapon, not that it would have been able to do anything in the first place. But besides the fact that a Cleric can get it's TD vs CS defense way beyond the reach of an Empath's CS ability, there is just no way the Empath could bring down the Cleric without the Cleric first tripping over a stone or something and landing on the ground in offensive without a weapon in it's hands. So The Cleric wins in this case as well.

Empath vs Warrior. Which profession has the advantage going in?

The Empath would be crushed by the sheer amount of AS that a Warrior could muster against it at like level of course. Given the lack of immediate defense spells that an Empath has in it's arsenal, and if the Warrior adds in it's natural combat manuever abilities into the mix, then it's all over for the Empath before the Empath is able to figure out what hit it. Warrior wins in this case as well.

Empath vs Paladin. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Don't know enough to comment. Although I'm just going to guess that the Paladin already has the natural advantage, similar to the same reasons why the Warrior does. Although different as well. Unfortunately we should leave this out of the tally again though. Due to lack of information.

Empath vs Wizard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

The Empath is toast again. No way for it to defend against the multiple spells that a Wizard could bring it down with. And it may even fail most of the warding against the Wizards CS spells, which is rare for any profession to fall prey to. But if any profession could be killed easily by a Wizards CS spells, it would be an Empath that would be the front runner. Wizard wins and Empath loses when it comes to who has the natural advantage over the other.

Empath vs Rogue. Which profession has the advantage going in?

The Empath has no chance in this case. Not only is it unable to force the Rogue from the shadows, but it is basicly almost completely defenseless against the Onslaught of the Rogue's AS combined with the lowering of the Defense due to the surprise of the Ambush. The Empath would be toast. Rogue wins in this case.

Empath vs Bard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Not much different than the reasons for the Warrior, or Rogue. Although it may take the Bard slightly longer to bring down the Empath depending upon what it's swinging. The Defense that a Bard can muster would be too much for the Empath to get past, and it wouldn't have much effect with it's weapon vs the Bard. Even with the Bard casting spells it would take longer than some of the other Professions that cast spells would take. But no matter, because the Bard would eventually bring it down. And the Bard would win in this case.

Empath vs Ranger. Which profession has the advantage going in?

The Empath would be screwed. The amount of training points that it would cost for it to be successful at dodging the Rangers spell would be nearly impossible to cough up. And the Ranger would also be successful at using it's weapons in this case. Aside from trying to dodge the manuever spells though of the Ranger, this is the one case where the Empath might actually be able to survive the other spells that the Ranger has in it's arsenal besides the ones it has to manuever against. No matter what though the Ranger has the natural advantage, due to the fact that it can also kneel down and use it's ranged weapons without little worry at all from being killed by the AS of the Empath. Although it could be possible with the stronger empaths out there. I'd have to say that the Empath matches up best aganst a Ranger than it does any other Profession. Even though it still loses to it by a longshot.

Empath vs Monk (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

Don't know enough to comment.

Empath vs Savant (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

Don't know enough to comment.

pabstblueribbon
12-17-2009, 10:06 PM
You are an idiot.

You dont know dick about the professions, especially empaths..

WRoss
12-17-2009, 10:09 PM
Pretty much, but he is arguing with himself.

CharlesStankowitz
12-17-2009, 10:10 PM
You are an idiot.

You dont know dick about the professions, especially empaths..

That's not true at all. I play an Empath. And I know much about them. And I know that most Empaths (not saying whether mine is like that or not) can be brought down while in defensive stance by other weapon specialist professions wielding weapons in offensive stances.

Pretty much everything I said about the Empath is true. Their lack of offensive spells, their lack of defensive spells, and their lack of ability to swing a weapon as well as other weapon specialist professions. Although you must have missed the part about the Empath being the most efficient hunter in the game. That's true as well. And I stated that awhile back. It's ability to run in the other room and heal itself when fighting against critters is one of the main reasons it earned that title from me. Only that doesn't do jack shit for an Empath when they are in the middle of a duel taking damage and getting stunned by another player. They aren't going to give you time to heal yourself in that case. And that pretty much takes away anything an Empath can do in battle against most all other professions.

Coin
12-17-2009, 10:15 PM
Empath vs Sorcerer. Which profession has the advantage going in?

The Sorcerer wins in this case hands down. The Empath can't swing well enough to break through the Sorcerer's defenses, and it wouldn't have a high enough CS to break through the Sorcerer's TD defenses. Unfortunately, the only thing the Empath would be good at in this case is running into the next room to heal itself. If it could get that far.

Empath vs Cleric. Which profession has the advantage going in?

The Empath wouldn't be able to touch the Cleric as long as it remained in Defensive, and the Cleric has many different spells at it's disposal which could immbolize the Empath from being able to do anything at all with it's weapon, not that it would have been able to do anything in the first place. But besides the fact that a Cleric can get it's TD vs CS defense way beyond the reach of an Empath's CS ability, there is just no way the Empath could bring down the Cleric without the Cleric first tripping over a stone or something and landing on the ground in offensive without a weapon in it's hands. So The Cleric wins in this case as well.

Empath vs Warrior. Which profession has the advantage going in?

The Empath would be crushed by the sheer amount of AS that a Warrior could muster against it at like level of course. Given the lack of immediate defense spells that an Empath has in it's arsenal, and if the Warrior adds in it's natural combat manuever abilities into the mix, then it's all over for the Empath before the Empath is able to figure out what hit it. Warrior wins in this case as well.

Empath vs Paladin. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Don't know enough to comment. Although I'm just going to guess that the Paladin already has the natural advantage, similar to the same reasons why the Warrior does. Although different as well. Unfortunately we should leave this out of the tally again though. Due to lack of information.

Empath vs Wizard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

The Empath is toast again. No way for it to defend against the multiple spells that a Wizard could bring it down with. And it may even fail most of the warding against the Wizards CS spells, which is rare for any profession to fall prey to. But if any profession could be killed easily by a Wizards CS spells, it would be an Empath that would be the front runner. Wizard wins and Empath loses when it comes to who has the natural advantage over the other.

Empath vs Rogue. Which profession has the advantage going in?

The Empath has no chance in this case. Not only is it unable to force the Rogue from the shadows, but it is basicly almost completely defenseless against the Onslaught of the Rogue's AS combined with the lowering of the Defense due to the surprise of the Ambush. The Empath would be toast. Rogue wins in this case.

Empath vs Bard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Not much different than the reasons for the Warrior, or Rogue. Although it may take the Bard slightly longer to bring down the Empath depending upon what it's swinging. The Defense that a Bard can muster would be too much for the Empath to get past, and it wouldn't have much effect with it's weapon vs the Bard. Even with the Bard casting spells it would take longer than some of the other Professions that cast spells would take. But no matter, because the Bard would eventually bring it down. And the Bard would win in this case.

Empath vs Ranger. Which profession has the advantage going in?

The Empath would be screwed. The amount of training points that it would cost for it to be successful at dodging the Rangers spell would be nearly impossible to cough up. And the Ranger would also be successful at using it's weapons in this case. Aside from trying to dodge the manuever spells though of the Ranger, this is the one case where the Empath might actually be able to survive the other spells that the Ranger has in it's arsenal besides the ones it has to manuever against. No matter what though the Ranger has the natural advantage, due to the fact that it can also kneel down and use it's ranged weapons without little worry at all from being killed by the AS of the Empath. Although it could be possible with the stronger empaths out there. I'd have to say that the Empath matches up best aganst a Ranger than it does any other Profession. Even though it still loses to it by a longshot.

Empath vs Monk (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

Don't know enough to comment.

Empath vs Savant (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

Don't know enough to comment.

Alright so what we have here, unless anyone disagrees, is a record of 0 Wins and 7 Losses with 0 Draws for the Empath when it comes to it's Profession vs Profession analysis.

If anyone disagrees with this assessment please speak up and please explain why, before we make it official. If you can come up with a good enough arguement as to how an Empath has any natural advantage over any other profession in the game when it comes to dueling, please explain your reasons and we will change the Record for it.

Coin
12-17-2009, 10:35 PM
Ok, so officially so far we have:

Warrior - 3 Wins and 3 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Sorcerer - 4 Wins and 2 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Wizard - 2 Wins and 4 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Empath - 0 Wins and 7 Losses and 0 Draws (Profession vs Profession Record)

Cephalopod
12-17-2009, 10:40 PM
We should just let this guy do his thing. There is some dedication here that you just don't see elsewhere, and I for one don't believe I should stand in its way any longer.

WRoss
12-17-2009, 10:55 PM
It would be nice, if he knew what he was talking about.

Methais
12-17-2009, 11:05 PM
Holy fucking shit I can't believe this fag is putting this much effort into having a conversation with himself.

Don't get me wrong I'm all for some good forum trolling, but this is just gay beyond belief. Gay as hell. GAY AS THE DEEP DARK DEPTHS OF SATAN'S HELLFIRE AND BRIMSTONE FILLED FLAMING ANUS!!!!!!!!1121

pabstblueribbon
12-17-2009, 11:10 PM
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BriarFox
12-17-2009, 11:25 PM
Yeah, going to have to join the "This is retarded" bandwagon. Just to illustrate Celephais's table, here's the Ranger match-ups:

Ranger

1. Ranger vs Sorcerer. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Whoever can get 616 or 720 off first.

2. Ranger vs Cleric. Which profession has the advantage going in?

If the cleric has spirit slayer up, then whoever casts first.

3. Ranger vs Empath. Which profession has the advantage going in?

616 probably pwns the empath, unless the empath is tricksy.

4. Ranger vs Paladin. Which profession has the advantage going in?

If the paladin can summon a massive AS to bust through the ranger's DS, then the paladin, but this would probably be a slug-fest after the paladin's full plate blunted 616.

5. Ranger vs Wizard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Whoever casts first.

6. Ranger vs Rogue. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Whoever casts or hides first, though it'd probably become a cat and mouse game. Ranger likely wins with 616 and 609.

7. Ranger vs Bard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Magic bard vs. ranger - whoever casts first. Physical bard vs. ranger would depend on if the bard could get lullabye off before the ranger got 616 off, so same deal.


8. Ranger vs Warrior. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Ranger, but it'd take a few to kill the warrior.

9. Ranger vs Monk (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

WTF.

10. Ranger vs Savant (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

DIAF.

CharlesStankowitz
12-17-2009, 11:26 PM
Cleric

1. Cleric vs Sorcerer. Which profession has the advantage going in?

2. Cleric vs Warrior. Which profession has the advantage going in?

3. Cleric vs Empath. Which profession has the advantage going in?

4. Cleric vs Paladin. Which profession has the advantage going in?

5. Cleric vs Wizard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

6. Cleric vs Rogue. Which profession has the advantage going in?

7. Cleric vs Bard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

8. Cleric vs Ranger. Which profession has the advantage going in?

9. Cleric vs Monk (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

10. Cleric vs Savant (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?



Cleric vs Sorcerer. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Already went over this. Cleric wins in the end.

Cleric vs Warrior. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Even though I have already gone over this, I'll go into it a bit more in detail this time. Although the Warrior has the ability to swing harder than most any profession in the game, the Cleric has the ability to muster up one of the best defenses in the game, so the Warrior wouldn't really be able to do too much with it's weapon against the Cleric, at least not before the Cleric would have used it's CS to immobilize the Warrior from doing so, and then all the Cleric would have to do then would be to hope that it had caught the Warrior in offensive stance when it casted it's spells at it. If it did, say goodbye to the Warrior when the Cleric figures out which method to use to be able to bring the Warrior down and kill it. So in this case the Cleric would win out.

Cleric vs Empath. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Cleric wins. Due to it's defensive advantage, and it's CS advantage. And hell, in some cases even due to it's offensive advantage.

Cleric vs Paladin. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Don't know enough to comment. Must be forced to leave it out again.

Cleric vs Wizard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Already went over this. But I'll go a bit more into detail. The Cleric is amazing at protecting against normal AS attacks as well as normal CS attacks, but is not so good at protecting against Wizard type attacks (bolt attacks). Therefore the Wizard holds the advantage in this case because the wizard has more spells that could harm the Cleric than the Cleric has that could harm the wizard. Assuming both of them are swinging weapons at eachother, the Wizard also has spells that would give it the advantage in this case as well. So ultimately the Wizard would be victorious in this case, thanks to it's fire magic and water/ice magic and lightning magic and the whole nine yards. And it's maneuver spells that the Cleric would find itself having a hard time trying to dodge.

Cleric vs Rogue. Which profession has the advantage going in?

In this case I feel that the Cleric would win only because as with the Warrior, it would be extremely tough for the rogue to touch the Cleric if it spells itself up completely and if it remains in defensive while the Rogue attempts to ambush it. The Cleric may also have a few spells that would help force the Rogue from the shadows and into the open where it would be at the mercy of the Clerics high CS, but even if it didn't, the ambushing alone would not be enough for the Rouge to bring the Cleric down in my opinion. So in this case I give it to the Cleric.

Cleric vs Bard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Although the Bard I believe would be able to hold out a bit longer than the Warrior or Rogue would in a battle against the Cleric, I still believe that in the end it could be that the Clerics high defense and high CS would prove to be too much for the Bard, although the Cleric may find problems of it's own trying to get past the Bards defenses. This one would be really tough. Because if the Bard was able to get it's TD up really high with it's own spells, then the Cleric would not be able to do much with any of it's CS spells. But then, the Bard would have the ability to swing at the Cleric, but if a Warrior and Rogue aren't going to be able to hit it, then a Bard isn't going to be very successful at it either. So really, in the end, this matchup could prove to be a stale-mate. And for that reason I think it would be a draw, and that the two would cancel eachother out.

Cleric vs Ranger. Which profession has the advantage going in?

I think the Cleric would lose to the Ranger for almost exactly the same reasons that I said that the Sorcerer would. The dodging playing the biggest role in the problems for it. So in this case I believe the Ranger would win out, because the Cleric has even less damaging spells in it's arsenal than the Sorcerer does.

Cleric vs Monk (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

Don't know enough about Monks to comment on this.

Cleric vs Savant (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

Don't know enough about Savants to comment on this

CharlesStankowitz
12-17-2009, 11:28 PM
Yeah, going to have to join the "This is retarded" bandwagon. Just to illustrate Celephais's table, here's the Ranger match-ups:

Ranger

1. Ranger vs Sorcerer. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Whoever can get 616 or 720 off first.

2. Ranger vs Cleric. Which profession has the advantage going in?

If the cleric has spirit slayer up, then whoever casts first.

3. Ranger vs Empath. Which profession has the advantage going in?

616 probably pwns the empath, unless the empath is tricksy.

4. Ranger vs Paladin. Which profession has the advantage going in?

If the paladin can summon a massive AS to bust through the ranger's DS, then the paladin, but this would probably be a slug-fest after the paladin's full plate blunted 616.

5. Ranger vs Wizard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Whoever casts first.

6. Ranger vs Rogue. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Whoever casts or hides first, though it'd probably become a cat and mouse game. Ranger likely wins with 616 and 609.

7. Ranger vs Bard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Magic bard vs. ranger - whoever casts first. Physical bard vs. ranger would depend on if the bard could get lullabye off before the ranger got 616 off, so same deal.


8. Ranger vs Warrior. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Ranger, but it'd take a few to kill the warrior.

9. Ranger vs Monk (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

WTF.

10. Ranger vs Savant (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

DITF.

Your're not taking into account low level characters, like level characters, or any of that. You're stating that stuff as if only capped characters or characters that have already reached Lord status are part of the competition. This is not the case.

Of course only like level characters (same level characters) are being compared here. Any other comparisons between professions would be unbalanced. No matter what level you wish to speak about when comparing professions, it is an absolute must that the other profession be the exact same level in order to get a true and balanced comparison.

Parkbandit
12-17-2009, 11:40 PM
Ok, so officially so far we have:

Warrior - 3 Wins and 3 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Sorcerer - 4 Wins and 2 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Wizard - 2 Wins and 4 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Empath - 0 Wins and 7 Losses and 0 Draws (Profession vs Profession Record)

You do realize this makes about as much sense as the time you got to meet Penn and Teller.. and decided to wear a stain on your shirt, right?

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Coin
12-17-2009, 11:46 PM
Cleric vs Sorcerer. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Already went over this. Cleric wins in the end.

Cleric vs Warrior. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Even though I have already gone over this, I'll go into it a bit more in detail this time. Although the Warrior has the ability to swing harder than most any profession in the game, the Cleric has the ability to muster up one of the best defenses in the game, so the Warrior wouldn't really be able to do too much with it's weapon against the Cleric, at least not before the Cleric would have used it's CS to immobilize the Warrior from doing so, and then all the Cleric would have to do then would be to hope that it had caught the Warrior in offensive stance when it casted it's spells at it. If it did, say goodbye to the Warrior when the Cleric figures out which method to use to be able to bring the Warrior down and kill it. So in this case the Cleric would win out.

Cleric vs Empath. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Cleric wins. Due to it's defensive advantage, and it's CS advantage. And hell, in some cases even due to it's offensive advantage.

Cleric vs Paladin. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Don't know enough to comment. Must be forced to leave it out again.

Cleric vs Wizard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Already went over this. But I'll go a bit more into detail. The Cleric is amazing at protecting against normal AS attacks as well as normal CS attacks, but is not so good at protecting against Wizard type attacks (bolt attacks). Therefore the Wizard holds the advantage in this case because the wizard has more spells that could harm the Cleric than the Cleric has that could harm the wizard. Assuming both of them are swinging weapons at eachother, the Wizard also has spells that would give it the advantage in this case as well. So ultimately the Wizard would be victorious in this case, thanks to it's fire magic and water/ice magic and lightning magic and the whole nine yards. And it's maneuver spells that the Cleric would find itself having a hard time trying to dodge.

Cleric vs Rogue. Which profession has the advantage going in?

In this case I feel that the Cleric would win only because as with the Warrior, it would be extremely tough for the rogue to touch the Cleric if it spells itself up completely and if it remains in defensive while the Rogue attempts to ambush it. The Cleric may also have a few spells that would help force the Rogue from the shadows and into the open where it would be at the mercy of the Clerics high CS, but even if it didn't, the ambushing alone would not be enough for the Rouge to bring the Cleric down in my opinion. So in this case I give it to the Cleric.

Cleric vs Bard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Although the Bard I believe would be able to hold out a bit longer than the Warrior or Rogue would in a battle against the Cleric, I still believe that in the end it could be that the Clerics high defense and high CS would prove to be too much for the Bard, although the Cleric may find problems of it's own trying to get past the Bards defenses. This one would be really tough. Because if the Bard was able to get it's TD up really high with it's own spells, then the Cleric would not be able to do much with any of it's CS spells. But then, the Bard would have the ability to swing at the Cleric, but if a Warrior and Rogue aren't going to be able to hit it, then a Bard isn't going to be very successful at it either. So really, in the end, this matchup could prove to be a stale-mate. And for that reason I think it would be a draw, and that the two would cancel eachother out.

Cleric vs Ranger. Which profession has the advantage going in?

I think the Cleric would lose to the Ranger for almost exactly the same reasons that I said that the Sorcerer would. The dodging playing the biggest role in the problems for it. So in this case I believe the Ranger would win out, because the Cleric has even less damaging spells in it's arsenal than the Sorcerer does.

Cleric vs Monk (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

Don't know enough about Monks to comment on this.

Cleric vs Savant (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

Don't know enough about Savants to comment on this

Ok so if we were to just go off of this assessment alone, then what we would have here is 4 Wins, 2 Losses, and 1 Draw when it comes to the record for the Cleric's Profession vs Profession analysis.

Therefore, what we have as of now is this:

Warrior - 3 Wins and 3 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Sorcerer - 4 Wins and 2 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Wizard - 2 Wins and 4 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Empath - 0 Wins and 7 Losses and 0 Draws (Profession vs Profession Record)

Cleric - 4 Wins and 2 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Coin
12-17-2009, 11:48 PM
You do realize this makes about as much sense as the time you got to meet Penn and Teller.. and decided to wear a stain on your shirt, right?

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e6/belike53/IMG_1052.jpg

Is that a real pic of Warclaidhm?

Methais
12-17-2009, 11:49 PM
You do realize this makes about as much sense as the time you got to meet Penn and Teller.. and decided to wear a stain on your shirt, right?

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e6/belike53/IMG_1052.jpg

:rofl:

I'm still not convinced 100% that Coin is Warclaidhm, but if it is then all I can come up with is that he believes that if he trolls enough, people will like him.

Except for the fact that he sucks at trolling too, along with everything else in life. Uninteresting troll is uninteresting.


Is that a real pic of Warclaidhm?

It is. What are your thoughts?

CharlesStankowitz
12-18-2009, 12:41 AM
Rogue

1. Rogue vs Sorcerer. Which profession has the advantage going in?

2. Rogue vs Cleric. Which profession has the advantage going in?

3. Rogue vs Empath. Which profession has the advantage going in?

4. Rogue vs Paladin. Which profession has the advantage going in?

5. Rogue vs Wizard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

6. Rogue vs Warrior. Which profession has the advantage going in?

7. Rogue vs Bard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

8. Rogue vs Ranger. Which profession has the advantage going in?

9. Rogue vs Monk (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

10. Rogue vs Savant (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?



Rogue vs Sorcerer. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Already went over the reasons why I believe the Sorcerer has the advantage in this matchup.

Rogue vs Cleric. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Already went over the different reasons as to why I belive the Cleric has the natural advantage in this matchup.

Rogue vs Empath. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Rogue wins.

Rogue vs Paladin. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Don't know enough to comment on the Paladin.

Rogue vs Wizard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Already stated why I think the Rogue is victorious in this case.

Rogue vs Warrior. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Already said why I believe these two cancel eachother out in a Draw.

Rogue vs Bard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

I think the Rogue would have the advantage in this case, simply because the Bard would not be able to bring the Rogue from the shadows with it's spells. The Bard would have a higher defense than the Warrior though, which would make it tougher to hit, but the Bard would basicly be unable to even find a target to cast at with the Rogue, and the Rogue would only need to rub a blue crystal and to use it's own natural abilities to raise it's AS high enough to the point where it would successfuly be able to ambush the Bard's head. Even if the Rogue was to be out in the open and out of the shadows, I just don't see how the Bard would compete with it in terms of AS vs AS. And the Rogue would most likely be able to use it's own spells somewhat to raise it's TD high enough to the point where it might be able to withstand the attack spells of the Bard. Therefore I believe that the Rogue has the natural advantage in this matchup.

Rogue vs Ranger. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Tough call here too. But ultimately I believe that the Rogue would be victorious. Basicly for the same reasons that I said that the Warrior would be victorious over the Ranger. And the Rogue would have it even easier because it would be able to hide from the Ranger aside from the fact that it could dodge it's most powerful spells pretty well just as the Warrior could if trained properly. Also, the Ranger wouldn't want to kneel and use ranged weapons against the Rogue, because not only would it not be able to see the Rogue to shoot at it, but it would have lowered it's defense even further, only making it more vulnerable to the Rogues attack. So here I believe the Rogue has the natural advantage.

Rogue vs Monk (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

Not enough is known to comment at this time.

Rogue vs Savant (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

Not enough is known to comment at this time.

Coin
12-18-2009, 01:04 AM
Rogue vs Sorcerer. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Already went over the reasons why I believe the Sorcerer has the advantage in this matchup.

Rogue vs Cleric. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Already went over the different reasons as to why I belive the Cleric has the natural advantage in this matchup.

Rogue vs Empath. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Rogue wins.

Rogue vs Paladin. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Don't know enough to comment on the Paladin.

Rogue vs Wizard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Already stated why I think the Rogue is victorious in this case.

Rogue vs Warrior. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Already said why I believe these two cancel eachother out in a Draw.

Rogue vs Bard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

I think the Rogue would have the advantage in this case, simply because the Bard would not be able to bring the Rogue from the shadows with it's spells. The Bard would have a higher defense than the Warrior though, which would make it tougher to hit, but the Bard would basicly be unable to even find a target to cast at with the Rogue, and the Rogue would only need to rub a blue crystal and to use it's own natural abilities to raise it's AS high enough to the point where it would successfuly be able to ambush the Bard's head. Even if the Rogue was to be out in the open and out of the shadows, I just don't see how the Bard would compete with it in terms of AS vs AS. And the Rogue would most likely be able to use it's own spells somewhat to raise it's TD high enough to the point where it might be able to withstand the attack spells of the Bard. Therefore I believe that the Rogue has the natural advantage in this matchup.

Rogue vs Ranger. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Tough call here too. But ultimately I believe that the Rogue would be victorious. Basicly for the same reasons that I said that the Warrior would be victorious over the Ranger. And the Rogue would have it even easier because it would be able to hide from the Ranger aside from the fact that it could dodge it's most powerful spells pretty well just as the Warrior could if trained properly. Also, the Ranger wouldn't want to kneel and use ranged weapons against the Rogue, because not only would it not be able to see the Rogue to shoot at it, but it would have lowered it's defense even further, only making it more vulnerable to the Rogues attack. So here I believe the Rogue has the natural advantage.

Rogue vs Monk (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

Not enough is known to comment at this time.

Rogue vs Savant (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

Not enough is known to comment at this time.

Alright just going off of this assessment here, and because I don't have any other full assessment to go off of, what we have for the record of the Rogue when it comes to it's Profession vs Profession comparison analysis, we have a record of 4 Wins 2 Losses and 1 Draw for the Rogue.

And in total for the Professions we have already gone over we have:

Warrior - 3 Wins and 3 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Sorcerer - 4 Wins and 2 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Wizard - 2 Wins and 4 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Empath - 0 Wins and 7 Losses and 0 Draws (Profession vs Profession Record)

Cleric - 4 Wins and 2 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Rogue - 4 Wins and 2 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Celephais
12-18-2009, 01:16 AM
Honestly, do you think anyone actually thinks you're different people?

WRoss
12-18-2009, 01:18 AM
User: What do you think of Sideways vs. Coin?

Cleverbot: Bot.

CharlesStankowitz
12-18-2009, 01:40 AM
Paladin

1. Paladin vs Sorcerer. Which profession has the advantage going in?

2. Paladin vs Cleric. Which profession has the advantage going in?

3. Paladin vs Empath. Which profession has the advantage going in?

4. Paladin vs Warrior. Which profession has the advantage going in?

5. Paladin vs Warrior. Which profession has the advantage going in?

6. Paladin vs Rogue. Which profession has the advantage going in?

7. Paladin vs Bard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

8. Paladin vs Ranger. Which profession has the advantage going in?

9. Paladin vs Monk (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

10. Paladin vs Savant (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?



I don't know enough about the Paladin to do an accurate comparison here. So if someone else wants to take a stab at it please, be my guest.

Celephais
12-18-2009, 01:42 AM
Completely ignoring people calling you the same person.. right... that's what multiple people would do.

WRoss
12-18-2009, 01:43 AM
Fix you PC boobs website! I need proof of small mounds.

Gelston
12-18-2009, 01:43 AM
If people stop responding to and posting in their threads, they'd probably stop.

Note: I only use they because its multiple names. Of course I'm certain its the same person.

Northbay
12-18-2009, 03:10 AM
Someone better tell Orpius and Rogane empaths can't swing, have no defense or offense...then have them take this tool on

WRoss
12-18-2009, 03:13 AM
I am Rogane......

CharlesStankowitz
12-18-2009, 04:08 AM
Bard

1. Bard vs Sorcerer. Which profession has the advantage going in?

2. Bard vs Cleric. Which profession has the advantage going in?

3. Bard vs Empath. Which profession has the advantage going in?

4. Bard vs Paladin. Which profession has the advantage going in?

5. Bard vs Wizard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

6. Bard vs Warrior. Which profession has the advantage going in?

7. Bard vs Rogue. Which profession has the advantage going in?

8. Bard vs Ranger. Which profession has the advantage going in?

9. Bard vs Monk (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

10. Bard vs Savant (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?



Bard vs Sorcerer. Which profession has the advantage going in?

I've already stated why I believe that the Sorcerer has the natural advantage over the Bard in this matchup.

Bard vs Cleric. Which profession has the advantage going in?

I've gone over why I believe that the Bard and Cleric matchup comes to a draw.

Bard vs Empath. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Bard wins.

Bard vs Paladin. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Don't know enough about the Paladin to comment.

Bard vs Wizard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

We've gone over why I believe that the Bard has the natural advantage here.

Bard vs Warrior. Which profession has the advantage going in?

The Bard was the one that won out here.

Bard vs Rogue. Which profession has the advantage going in?

I picked the Rogue for the advantage in this one.

Bard vs Ranger. Which profession has the advantage going in?

I think the Bard would have problems countering the Ranger's maneuver spells. Althought a Bard could dodge well if trained properly. The Ranger would also be able to use his ranged weapons more easily in this matchup, because the Bard would not have as high of an AS as would a Warrior or Rogue. Ultimately, if the Ranger could resist the Bard's spells, and spell itself up well enough to resist the Bard's AS, then I do believe that the Ranger would be victorious. The Ranger would have little to worry about in this matchup, but the Bard would have more to worry about in this matchup. Therefore I pick the Ranger for the natural advantage in this matchup.

Bard vs Monk (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

Don't know enough about the Monk to comment.

Bard vs Savant (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

Don't know enough about the Savant to comment.

Coin
12-18-2009, 04:13 AM
Bard vs Sorcerer. Which profession has the advantage going in?

I've already stated why I believe that the Sorcerer has the natural advantage over the Bard in this matchup.

Bard vs Cleric. Which profession has the advantage going in?

I've gone over why I believe that the Bard and Cleric matchup comes to a draw.

Bard vs Empath. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Bard wins.

Bard vs Paladin. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Don't know enough about the Paladin to comment.

Bard vs Wizard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

We've gone over why I believe that the Bard has the natural advantage here.

Bard vs Warrior. Which profession has the advantage going in?

The Bard was the one that won out here.

Bard vs Rogue. Which profession has the advantage going in?

I picked the Rogue for the advantage in this one.

Bard vs Ranger. Which profession has the advantage going in?

I think the Bard would have problems countering the Ranger's maneuver spells. Althought a Bard could dodge well if trained properly. The Ranger would also be able to use his ranged weapons more easily in this matchup, because the Bard would not have as high of an AS as would a Warrior or Rogue. Ultimately, if the Ranger could resist the Bard's spells, and spell itself up well enough to resist the Bard's AS, then I do believe that the Ranger would be victorious. The Ranger would have little to worry about in this matchup, but the Bard would have more to worry about in this matchup. Therefore I pick the Ranger for the natural advantage in this matchup.

Bard vs Monk (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

Don't know enough about the Monk to comment.

Bard vs Savant (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

Don't know enough about the Savant to comment.

Alright my friends so after this assessment we can conclude that the record for Profession vs Profession analysis when it comes to the Bard is 3 Wins and 3 Losses and 1 Draw.

The total for the Professions we have gone over so far is:

Warrior - 3 Wins and 3 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Sorcerer - 4 Wins and 2 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Wizard - 2 Wins and 4 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Empath - 0 Wins and 7 Losses and 0 Draws (Profession vs Profession Record)

Cleric - 4 Wins and 2 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Rogue - 4 Wins and 2 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Bard - 3 Wins and 3 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

CharlesStankowitz
12-18-2009, 04:26 AM
Ranger

1. Ranger vs Sorcerer. Which profession has the advantage going in?

2. Ranger vs Cleric. Which profession has the advantage going in?

3. Ranger vs Empath. Which profession has the advantage going in?

4. Ranger vs Paladin. Which profession has the advantage going in?

5. Ranger vs Wizard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

6. Ranger vs Rogue. Which profession has the advantage going in?

7. Ranger vs Bard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

8. Ranger vs Warrior. Which profession has the advantage going in?

9. Ranger vs Monk (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

10. Ranger vs Savant (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?



Ranger vs Sorcerer. Which profession has the advantage going in?

In this one we went over why the Ranger has the advantage here.

Ranger vs Cleric. Which profession has the advantage going in?

We covered why the Ranger would have the advantage here as well.

Ranger vs Empath. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Ranger wins.

Ranger vs Paladin. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Don't know enough about Paladins to comment.

Ranger vs Wizard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

I've already stated the different reasons why I believe the Wizard would naturally be victorious in this matchup.

Ranger vs Rogue. Which profession has the advantage going in?

I just recently pointed out why I thought the Rogue would be the one to take the gold in this matchup for the natural advantage over the Ranger.

Ranger vs Bard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Just above this post I stated why I feel that the Ranger would have the natural advantage over the Bard in this matchup.

Ranger vs Warrior. Which profession has the advantage going in?

In the beginning of this thread I gave the reasons why I felt that the Warrior would ultimately be victorious against the Ranger in the competiton for natural ability one over the other. The Warrior can train in dodging very easily, and would certainly if trained properly have the ability to dodge most any major Maneuver spell that the Ranger could throw at it. And the Warrior's armor would protect it against most weapons the Ranger could use against it. Also if the Ranger took the chance to kneel to fire it's weapon as I mentioned before it would be game over. So again here I feel that the Warrior would be victorious in this matchup.

Ranger vs Monk (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

Don't know enough to comment on the Monk.

Ranger vs Savant (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

Don't know enough to comment on the Savant.

Coin
12-18-2009, 04:32 AM
Ranger vs Sorcerer. Which profession has the advantage going in?

In this one we went over why the Ranger has the advantage here.

Ranger vs Cleric. Which profession has the advantage going in?

We covered why the Ranger would have the advantage here as well.

Ranger vs Empath. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Ranger wins.

Ranger vs Paladin. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Don't know enough about Paladins to comment.

Ranger vs Wizard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

I've already stated the different reasons why I believe the Wizard would naturally be victorious in this matchup.

Ranger vs Rogue. Which profession has the advantage going in?

I just recently pointed out why I thought the Rogue would be the one to take the gold in this matchup for the natural advantage over the Ranger.

Ranger vs Bard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

Just above this post I stated why I feel that the Ranger would have the natural advantage over the Bard in this matchup.

Ranger vs Warrior. Which profession has the advantage going in?

In the beginning of this thread I gave the reasons why I felt that the Warrior would ultimately be victorious against the Ranger in the competiton for natural ability one over the other. The Warrior can train in dodging very easily, and would certainly if trained properly have the ability to dodge most any major Maneuver spell that the Ranger could throw at it. And the Warrior's armor would protect it against most weapons the Ranger could use against it. Also if the Ranger took the chance to kneel to fire it's weapon as I mentioned before it would be game over. So again here I feel that the Warrior would be victorious in this matchup.

Ranger vs Monk (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

Don't know enough to comment on the Monk.

Ranger vs Savant (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

Don't know enough to comment on the Savant.

Alright then my friends it's time to tally up the score here. What we have regarding the Ranger and it's record when it comes to it's Profession vs Profession analysis, is a record of 4 Wins, 3 Losses, and 0 Draws.

And the grand total for all of the different Professions that have been previously covered is:

Warrior - 3 Wins and 3 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Sorcerer - 4 Wins and 2 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Wizard - 2 Wins and 4 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Empath - 0 Wins and 7 Losses and 0 Draws (Profession vs Profession Record)

Cleric - 4 Wins and 2 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Rogue - 4 Wins and 2 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Bard - 3 Wins and 3 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Ranger - 4 Wins and 3 Losses and 0 Draws (Profession vs Profession Record)

CharlesStankowitz
12-18-2009, 04:41 AM
Monk

1. Monk vs Sorcerer. Which profession has the advantage going in?

2. Monk vs Cleric. Which profession has the advantage going in?

3. Monk vs Empath. Which profession has the advantage going in?

4. Monk vs Paladin. Which profession has the advantage going in?

5. Monk vs Wizard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

6. Monk vs Rogue. Which profession has the advantage going in?

7. Monk vs Bard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

8. Monk vs Ranger. Which profession has the advantage going in?

9. Monk vs Warrior (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

10. Monk vs Savant (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?



I don't know enough about the Monk to do an accurate comparison here. So if someone else wants to take a stab at it please, be my guest.

CharlesStankowitz
12-18-2009, 04:43 AM
Savant

1. Savant vs Sorcerer. Which profession has the advantage going in?

2. Savant vs Cleric. Which profession has the advantage going in?

3. Savant vs Empath. Which profession has the advantage going in?

4. Savant vs Paladin. Which profession has the advantage going in?

5. Savant vs Wizard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

6. Savant vs Rogue. Which profession has the advantage going in?

7. Savant vs Bard. Which profession has the advantage going in?

8. Savant vs Warrior. Which profession has the advantage going in?

9. Savant vs Monk (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

10. Savant vs Ranger (theoretically) Which profession has the advantage going in?

I don't know enough about the Savant to do an accurate comparison here. So if someone else wants to take a stab at it please, be my guest.

Coin
12-18-2009, 04:44 AM
Alright so that looks like it about wraps it up guys. I'll go ahead and post the final results in a second, but first I would like to personally thank Charles for his work on this thread. Thank you very much Charles, you did well in my opinion.

CharlesStankowitz
12-18-2009, 04:45 AM
Alright so that looks like it about wraps it up guys. I'll go ahead and post the final results in a second, but first I would like to personally thank Charles for his work on this thread. Thank you very much Charles, you did well in my opinion.

No problem Coin. You know I owed you one. :yes:

Coin
12-18-2009, 04:53 AM
Alright so the final results are in guys. And here's what the end result was. I would like to post the Strongest Professions in Gold, the Middle-Strength Professions in Silver, and the Weakest Professions in Copper:


The Gold Professions:

Sorcerer - 4 Wins and 2 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Cleric - 4 Wins and 2 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Rogue - 4 Wins and 2 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)


The Silver Professions:

Ranger - 4 Wins and 3 Losses and 0 Draws (Profession vs Profession Record)

Warrior - 3 Wins and 3 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Bard - 3 Wins and 3 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)


The Copper Professions:

Wizard - 2 Wins and 4 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Empath - 0 Wins and 7 Losses and 0 Draws (Profession vs Profession Record)

Swami71
12-18-2009, 05:08 AM
WTF

zhelas
12-18-2009, 07:02 AM
Nothing else taken into consideration other than Douche vs Douche, which Douche has the advantages in the following comparisons?


HaroldandMaud

1. HaroldandMaud vs Coin. Which Douche has the advantage going in?

2. HaroldandMaud vs CharlesStankowitz. Which Douche has the advantage going in?

Coin

1. Coin vs HaroldandMaud. Which Douche has the advantage going in?

2. Coin vs CharlesStankowitz. Which Douche has the advantage going in?

CharlesStankowitz

1. CharlesStankowitz vs HaroldandMaud. Which Douche has the advantage going in?

2. CharlesStankowitz vs Coin. Which Douche has the advantage going in?

zhelas
12-18-2009, 07:23 AM
Coin, HaroldandMaud, and CharlesStankowitz ------------>DUDE------->Please take your Alter Ego Circle Jerk elsewhere. NO ONE wants to watch you stroke yourself and have you leave your crusty tube socks here on PC.

Smythe
12-18-2009, 08:42 AM
Ya, like dis is da worst I ever seen here. Right. Is actually funny. Wrong but funny. Ya pergs dat wan' ta try ta make everythin' in yer own image, 'member "NO ONE wants to watch you stroke others" either.

Fewkin' judgmental yutzes.

- Smythe

AnticorRifling
12-18-2009, 08:44 AM
Holy shit I think I agree with Smythe. At least I think I do, I can't understand half of that text that resembles a conversation with a drunk chewing on a fistful of gravel....

ElvenFury
12-18-2009, 08:53 AM
Alright so the final results are in guys. And here's what the end result was. I would like to post the Strongest Professions in Gold, the Middle-Strength Professions in Silver, and the Weakest Professions in Copper:


The Gold Professions:

Sorcerer - 4 Wins and 2 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Cleric - 4 Wins and 2 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Rogue - 4 Wins and 2 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)


The Silver Professions:

Ranger - 4 Wins and 3 Losses and 0 Draws (Profession vs Profession Record)

Warrior - 3 Wins and 3 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Bard - 3 Wins and 3 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)


The Copper Professions:

Wizard - 2 Wins and 4 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Empath - 0 Wins and 7 Losses and 0 Draws (Profession vs Profession Record)

You can't tell me this guy isn't Paco.

Parkbandit
12-18-2009, 08:53 AM
Smythe is worried that someone else will steal all the attention away from him.

ElvenFury
12-18-2009, 08:57 AM
Does Smythe remind anyone else of Cletus the slack-jawed yokel?

http://wiw.org/~jess/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/cletus.gif

Celephais
12-18-2009, 08:58 AM
http://koreaisnumberone.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/head-explodes-big-761159.jpg

Smythe
12-18-2009, 09:11 AM
Smythe is worried that someone else will steal all the attention away from him.

Nah. One day soon, ya might get wha' I'm doin'. Only one regret. Well two I guess. Pos rep shows neutered. No big, havin' ta 'splain reality ta idgits what don' wan' ta hear is never popular.

An' I need ta spread my pos reps out a bit I guess. Haven' given out enough since da last time I rep'd ya, PB. Lemme work on dat. An' yer not a forum. Yer still jes' an idgit. But I gots hopes fer ya one day.

- Smythe

crb
12-18-2009, 09:19 AM
This thread fails, hard.

AnticorRifling
12-18-2009, 09:25 AM
Nah. One day soon, ya might get wha' I'm doin'.

- Smythe
Being retarded?

This is a forum. It's not an RP game. We've been over this. I don't care if you want to pretend to be grounds keeper Willie after chasing parked cars, do it in game but not here, here it's retarded.

Parkbandit
12-18-2009, 09:26 AM
Nah. One day soon, ya might get wha' I'm doin'. Only one regret. Well two I guess. Pos rep shows neutered. No big, havin' ta 'splain reality ta idgits what don' wan' ta hear is never popular.

An' I need ta spread my pos reps out a bit I guess. Haven' given out enough since da last time I rep'd ya, PB. Lemme work on dat. An' yer not a forum. Yer still jes' an idgit. But I gots hopes fer ya one day.

- Smythe

http://www.successtrace.com/images/failphoto.jpg

Parkbandit
12-18-2009, 09:28 AM
Being retarded?

This is a forum. It's not an RP game. We've been over this. I don't care if you want to pretend to be grounds keeper Willie after chasing parked cars, do it in game but not here, here it's retarded.

Now now.. he's just trying to express himself in the only way he can. You don't expect him to have an intelligent discussion on an Internet forum, do you?

We should be inclusive of all sorts on this board.. why are you against the socially inept so much?

Smythe
12-18-2009, 09:56 AM
Wish me face hair were dat good. I don' do Cleveland tho, so dat can' be me. Face hair'd be such a great 'spression tool, ya?

An' no worries, AR. If'n I can sort thru yer "Willie after chasing" crap grammar, I migh' havta agree. Do me a favor'n hold yer breath fer it?

Pos reps fer all! Even if'n I can' add.

- Smythe

Celephais
12-18-2009, 11:01 AM
Even in game it's bad form to be typing like that. It's what you SAY not how you say it. You're not actually saying "havta" you're saying "have to" but your inability to form the words makes it sounds different. This is what it should be:

Smythe says "have to" with a shitty accent.

Then, as part of the listener's RP they can say "I don't know what the hell you just said."

Methais
12-18-2009, 12:33 PM
Ya, like dis is da worst I ever seen here. Right. Is actually funny. Wrong but funny. Ya pergs dat wan' ta try ta make everythin' in yer own image, 'member "NO ONE wants to watch you stroke others" either.

Fewkin' judgmental yutzes.

- Smythe



Nah. One day soon, ya might get wha' I'm doin'. Only one regret. Well two I guess. Pos rep shows neutered. No big, havin' ta 'splain reality ta idgits what don' wan' ta hear is never popular.

An' I need ta spread my pos reps out a bit I guess. Haven' given out enough since da last time I rep'd ya, PB. Lemme work on dat. An' yer not a forum. Yer still jes' an idgit. But I gots hopes fer ya one day.

Why the fuck are you trying to RP in your posts? You can't be that gay....or can you?

I'M JUST ASKING QUESTIONS!!!
http://newsone.com/files/2009/11/cartman-beck.jpg

Methais
12-18-2009, 12:35 PM
If people stop responding to and posting in their threads, they'd probably stop.

Note: I only use they because its multiple names. Of course I'm certain its the same person.

I think a better way would be to hijack all their threads with enormous walls of text until their posts get lost in all the spam.

Eventually he'll get bored and go for a ride on his scooter and hopefully get into a fight with a train.

Methais
12-18-2009, 12:38 PM
Wish me face hair were dat good. I don' do Cleveland tho, so dat can' be me. Face hair'd be such a great 'spression tool, ya?

An' no worries, AR. If'n I can sort thru yer "Willie after chasing" crap grammar, I migh' havta agree. Do me a favor'n hold yer breath fer it?

Pos reps fer all! Even if'n I can' add.

- Smythe

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm280/target6584/fucking_gay.jpg

WRoss
12-18-2009, 12:54 PM
http://www.peachifruit.com/hiimdaisy/mgs3comic13.jpg

WRoss
12-18-2009, 12:56 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a8/Old_map-El_Paso-1886.jpg

WRoss
12-18-2009, 12:56 PM
Filibusted!

Celephais
12-18-2009, 01:03 PM
... Did you just drop a 13Mb bomb in this thread? Jeez...

WRoss
12-18-2009, 01:06 PM
I think it might have been more.

Geshron
12-19-2009, 01:19 AM
Come positve do Working hard and come best in any Profession.

This guy clearly has the answer.

Sean of the Thread
12-19-2009, 02:00 AM
|Bard|Cleric|Empath|Ranger|Rogue|Sorcerer|Wizard|W arrior|Paladin|Monk|Savant
Bard|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Cleric|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Empath|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Ranger|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Rogue|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Sorcerer|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Wizard|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Warrior|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Paladin|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Monk|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*
Savant|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|*|* *Whoever attacks first

heheh win my friend win.

Coin
12-21-2009, 03:10 AM
I'd like to change the Empath's status immediately. After having really focused on the Empath's abilities, I must say that the Empath has some true potential to be a powerhouse of a profession.

At first glance, their 1106 spell appears to cost too much for what it would appear to do. But the reality is that it is a more effective and more damaging spell than is 0702 for Sorcerers. It hits more often, and it does more damage. Often times killing the creatures it hits.

Then, there is the AS advantages that come with an Empath's spells. Absolutely incredible when you add them all up. Almost as incredible as absolutely incredible as absolute vodka mixed in with a white russian.

The only thing the empath lacks is knock down spells like quake, spike thorn, etc. But other than that, I could see how an older Empath could be as tough as any profession out there.

So I am officially bumping them up to Silver status. And possibly even thinking of moving them to Gold.

I know what you're thinking....but you have to remember that I created this thread. And I run this bitch.

Here is the revised positions on the todom pole:


The Gold Professions:

Sorcerer - 4 Wins and 2 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Cleric - 4 Wins and 2 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Rogue - 4 Wins and 2 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)


The Silver Professions:

Empath No record necessary for being as bad ass as I've come to realize them to be.

Ranger - 4 Wins and 3 Losses and 0 Draws (Profession vs Profession Record)

Warrior - 3 Wins and 3 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)

Bard - 3 Wins and 3 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)


The Copper Professions:

Wizard - 2 Wins and 4 Losses and 1 Draw (Profession vs Profession Record)