Recharging crystal, listening to offers

[Morrff]

As the title states. Listening to offers. Trade, coin, cash.

[WRoss]

what type of trades do you want?

[Sablemane]

Whats the crystal do?

[WRoss]

It's like a Ferrari, if you have to ask, you can't afford it.

[Sablemane]

hmmm, so it's well beyond 100M? Gotcha

[Fallen]

hmmm, so it's well beyond 100M? Gotcha

If you would have caught one on GS Auctions, sure. Now, I don't even want to imagine the markup. What they do is safely add 1 (or two?) charges per day to a mage rechargeable item, effectively turning a mage rechargeable gem or jewelry into a 1-2x a day unlimited recharger. They have a long history of nerfs, but that's the short of it. I'm sure someone will correct any mistakes I made and elaborate if necessary.

[Archigeek]

If you're willing to part with 100m for a charging crystal... let me know.

[Stretch]

I sold one of the vermilion ones in 2004 for somewhere between 20m and 25m.

The higher level spells required decent quality gems (rubies and such) to actually add a charge. Wasn't really worth it to me.

[BriarFox]

The two on GSAuctions sold for 55m.

[Fallen]

The two on GSAuctions sold for 55m.

Quite quickly, too. I believe they were underpriced.

[BriarFox]

Quite quickly, too. I believe they were underpriced.

Yeah, possibly. The last ones before that sold a few years ago for 35m each or so, though. Big mark-up.

[Sablemane]

ahh thanks for the heads-up. Having never owned a mage or dealt with recharging I know nothing about these...

[Morrff]

Yes Fallen you are indeed correct. It adds 2 charges without chance of failure to any Mage Re-chargeable item that's not currently full at 40 charges. If you go over 40 charges with a MR then you can "green" the item so it's no longer a MR, also it has a change to break the MR if that happens, both are chances however.

Yes both crystals sold out in a matter of moments after being posted on GSAuctions. I believe they were under priced considering you cannot pry the existing crystals out of the current owners hands and it looks like they may never move considering who owns them and what dedication to the community they seem to have.(I doubt they are leaving anytime soon)

Also they have increased in price over the years from what I believe is directly due to the nerf to 517 and how usless it has become to charge out of circle spells. It's not worth it to break your nice Mage Re-charger attempting to have a talented mage work on it, so that leaves finding merchants and they can be somewhat rare in none festival areas. Also 40 charges from a merchant does not last all year for most peoples items and habbits opf using them.

I have received a lot of interest on this. I will be going through PM's and responding inna bit. Hopefully this answers some of the questions I've been asked on this item.

Things I'm NOT interested in are character trades, had a couple of those and I have no use for more characters. I'm more in the market for neat items, self mana, self charging magical, high end armors/weapons. Would have to be a hefty cash/coin deal to get me to part with this.

Cylas

[Archigeek]

My experience is that you can get probably 4 charges of a 20th level spell out of a 2500 silver value gem. It's always been less than I was led to believe, which of course is a good thing.

I'm not entirely convinced that 55m is way under priced, but based on the chorus here, perhaps it is? Sure availability comes into play, but you're still only getting 2 charges a day, so if you are darn near religious about charging things up, you maybe get 600 charges a year. But if people want them, they'll pay. Nothing governs value more than supply and demand.

Just to add a bit of info, here's how they work:

You remove a rough-cut milky blue crystal from in your black silk gem pouch.

>get ame from my cloak
You remove a brilliant wyrm's-tooth amethyst from in your mesh cloak.

>rub cry
You rub your milky blue crystal.
Your amethyst is absorbed into your crystal in a swirl of shimmering light.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
R>get medal from my black pouch
You remove an engraved ivory medallion from in your black silk gem pouch.
>rub my cry
You rub your milky blue crystal.
Your milky blue crystal pulses. A tendril of chromatic light shimmers between the crystal and the ivory medallion, then slowly dissolves into the medallion.
You feel that the crystal has successfully added a charge to the medallion.
Roundtime: 9 sec.
R>rub my cry
You rub your milky blue crystal.
Your milky blue crystal pulses. A tendril of chromatic light shimmers between the crystal and the ivory medallion, then slowly dissolves into the medallion.
You feel that the crystal has successfully added a charge to the medallion.
Roundtime: 5 sec.
R>put cry in my black pouch
You put a rough-cut milky blue crystal in your black silk gem pouch.
>put medal in my black pouch
You put an engraved ivory medallion in your black silk gem pouch.

Easy as pie. You just have the crystal in your right hand with the gem in the left, and rub the crystal. Then the item you want charged in the left and and crystal in the right still, and rub the crystal again. That's it.

[The Ponzzz]

Pretty sure you can actually destroy the crystal too by trying to over extend it's power.

[Morrff]

Pretty sure you can actually destroy the crystal too by trying to over extend it's power.

Oh yes, very important part. If you raise the crystal's charges beyond what it is intended on having stored, you have a chance of hurting the crystal. I've heard that there's a chance destroying the crystal all together, other times it will drain charges back down(Even into the negatives) and even another story I've heard is that they can have the charges drain and waste that days 2 uses.

However you would have to TRY to hurt the crystal pretty much.

I feed it an 8k diamond and it gives me roughly 6-8 charges with that gem alone. Those charges get stored inside the crystal. The crystal can safely store 40 charges, what beyond that I'm not exactly certain. But since it's only 2x a day, why would you ever need to put even 40 charges in it? Just feed it a gem once or twice a week. I always make sure I loresing to the crystal every other weekiend, it will tell you exactly how many charges the crystal has.

[The Ponzzz]

Yeah, they are still a killer item. I owned one for awhile. Nice to make rare spells in magical items into X a day items.

[eulogia]

My experience is that you can get probably 4 charges of a 20th level spell out of a 2500 silver value gem. It's always been less than I was led to believe, which of course is a good thing.

I own one in Plat and I have to say this is totally off in my experience.

If I feed the crystal a gem worth 8k, it will loresing as having about 18 charges in it.

Then if I charge a 130 item once with it, the crystal will sing at 3 charges.

It is when you try to charge an item and the crystal doesn't have enough "juice" in it that it has a chance of blowing the item up. (And how I lost the 130 item, unfortunately). But it is very, very expensive to keep upper level items charged.

-E

[Archigeek]

I'd love to hear more about how you lost the 130 item. Our experiences are different with regards to value, though I have never loresung any values, so you've got some info there that's useful. It's possible that circle matters, though that doesn't make sense since you were charging a 130 item and I most frequently charge a 120 item. If we just look straight at what you said about value, it would imply that it uses 15 "charges" to charge a 130 item once. You could theorize from there that it's 1/2 a charge per spell level. Might be worth exploring that theory further.

Other factors that could come into play are circle, item value, who knows... worn or not worn, crumbly vs non-crumbly, activation method? I doubt any of that would matter but I don't know.

One other thing with regards to your 130 item blowing up. You wouldn't by chance have a log of it would you? Also, how many charges were in the 130 item before you tried to add charges and had the catastrophic failure? Did you loresing the item's value before hand? And was it crumbly or non-crumbly?

[Morrff]

I'll wager the crystal was into the negative charges and he used it on a crumbly item that took it below 0. But there's always the overcharging aspect to. Yeah I'd like a log of the event as well if you have it. I'll do some more study'n on it and get back to here on the charges it uses per spell. Just need to wait for Bazar to contact me, he's currently attempting to fix two MR's that the scripts won't allow the crystal to charge them.

[crb]

I'll bid 70m. If that is higher than what you have on offer, great, if not, oh well.

I'd prefer a vermillion one. Just to keep things straight.