10X OHE Waraxe with cold flares – zested snake wrapped on handle

[Brian]

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[WRoss]

Nothing against you at all, but why do a ton of the 10x weapons in game have cold flares?

[Swami71]

Last one I saw was Rob's lightning flared one. Cold is a step up from lightning IMO.

[BigWorm]

Both of them have a comparatively high amount of critters with resistance, cold especially so. Lightning has the benefit of being the most deadly but also is unsafe in the Bowels and water areas.

Cold is actually useful in Nelemar because it slows water elementals down. That's very situational, but each flare can be especially effective or ineffective in the different situations you will encounter in GS. I think its important to see that all flare types have pros and cons and there's definitely not an objective absolute scale of best to worst flares.

[Archigeek]

Both of them have a comparatively high amount of critters with resistance, cold especially so. Lightning has the benefit of being the most deadly but also is unsafe in the Bowels and water areas.

Cold is actually useful in Nelemar because it slows water elementals down. That's very situational, but each flare can be especially effective or ineffective in the different situations you will encounter in GS. I think its important to see that all flare types have pros and cons and there's definitely not an objective absolute scale of best to worst flares.

When flares were updated, they were largely standardized to the point where some pretty good flares were made pretty blah. Now for the most part they're all about the messaging, with largely the same results, with some big exceptions vs particular critters/groups. I think things like "stovel vacuum flares" got a pretty severe downgrade to be honest.

[Ormr]

Stovel's vacuum flares...nerfed. To all fucking hell. They were awesome pre-nerf. It was ridiculous. At the time of that nerf, I had a 6x stovel vacuum longsword, which was soooo nice, at THAT point in time, to say the least. Value? shit on long and wide with that change.

However Stovel's acid seems to still run stronger than normal acid flares. I've done a TON of parsing on it, and while the difference isn't 50points in damage anymore, the crit ranks seem to be varied on the normal weapons being 1 or 2 and Stovel's being 2 and 3. Very infrequent to see a lame 5point damage flare from a stovel weapon.

Get void/implosion/disintegrate/permSpike flares and be happy. Those are now all very strong, cause death frequently.

Knockout flares, as well, are fun if you do aim, though they're uncommon because they only flare on the head, and thus most don't appreciate the okay value of it. :club: BAM.

[Morrff]

Mechanical flares still rock IMO

[Ormr]

yeah I gotta say, if the spikes are perm, those are one of my favorites. It's just extremely annoying to find a high enchant spike weapon. That'll take a few more years for people to start gettin em up to 10x. But they are absolutely killer for when you hunt shit at cap that doesn't die when you neckshot it due to death resistance, then the spike flare kills it because the death resistance doesn't work against flaring.

Like a troll king who has 600 hit points but dies to a flaring 30 point fire neckshot. Sweet.

[Morrff]

What spikes?


Careful examination indicates the rolaren waraxe has a base strength of 90 and a base durability of 225. You also determine the current integrity of the rolaren waraxe to be at 100.0%.


No spikes

[NocturnalRob]

Last one I saw was Rob's lightning flared one. Cold is a step up from lightning IMO.
Eh, cold flares rock in mages, that's about it. Lightning flares are great against casters as well as the occasional zap crit.

But as previously stated, very uncool in bowels.

[BigWorm]

When flares were updated, they were largely standardized to the point where some pretty good flares were made pretty blah. Now for the most part they're all about the messaging, with largely the same results, with some big exceptions vs particular critters/groups. I think things like "stovel vacuum flares" got a pretty severe downgrade to be honest.

Lightning flares can kill on nerve crits, making them slightly more deadly. Like Rob said, this is especially effective against casters. But my point is more that the "best" flare is pretty situational.

[WRoss]

I have a 4x axe that has lightning flares to 75. Its pretty meh. I'm loving this TWC blunt combo with flares.

[Ormr]

I have a 5x handaxe with perm mech, and a 6x falchion with perm mech. both of em are on my ambushing warrior *bout 45 trains*. That is a damn lot of fun.

[Sablemane]

wait, so the weapon flares cold but the snake flares too? Or is the snake just for zests?

[BigWorm]

I have a 5x handaxe with perm mech, and a 6x falchion with perm mech. both of em are on my ambushing warrior *bout 45 trains*. That is a damn lot of fun.

The thing that pissed me off about mechanical flares were all the dummies getting slash flares, which are totally stupid. Seems like almost no one got puncture flares which would be sick nasty on a higher enchant dagger.

[Mogonis]

I have a knife with mechanical flares. I won a Jovn auction on the Wavedancer some years ago, and all I had with me was my katana and my knife. If he put them on my katana, he'd drop it to 7x, so I had to put 'em on my knife.

[Nuc]

I wish I could find a katar with mechanical flares.

[Zanagodly]

The grapple flares from the 2007 EG were absolutely dirt mcgurt. Even a minor flare would frequently put the critter on the ground. Mstriking with it is just beast.

[m444w]

I love me some plain old fashioned void flares.

[Sablemane]

That's like saying you just want a simple Lambourgini

[nub]

Are plain 10x waraxes going for 30mil? If so, wouldn't that price be a little high, since having cold flares negates being able to be blessed, and the snake thing seems like an annoyance since it hurts/poisons you.

I've been wanting a plain 10x waraxe forever, I never see em go up for sale, so maybe this is worth the price that is being asked.

[Senglent]

I don't overly pay attention, but plain x10 last I saw was 20-25, flared going for 25-35.

So I would say he's in the right ballpark, if you have trouble finding one grab this one and look for a flare removing merchant.

[Marl]

if you have trouble finding one grab this one and look for a flare removing merchant.

there will be a merchant in FWI tomorrow to take off flare/padding/resistances etc from weapons/armor just so ya know.

I have a question, if you remove the flares from this will it make it blessable?

[Mogonis]

I don't think Storven will remove the snake flares. Something about "imparted by scripts." He should remove the cold flares though, and maybe the snakes flares don't interfere with blessability.

I'm going to plead with him to remove the bubble flares from my krodera fal.

[Nuc]

I had an 8x morning star with a snake that was blessable, so the snake definitely doesn't affect the blessability of a weapon.

[thefarmer]

I don't think Storven will remove the snake flares. Something about "imparted by scripts." He should remove the cold flares though, and maybe the snakes flares don't interfere with blessability.

I'm going to plead with him to remove the bubble flares from my krodera fal.

The snake flares on this weapon aren't flares 'imparted by scripts'.

[Mogonis]

What flares are imparted by scripts?

[Wrathbringer]

What flares are imparted by scripts?

I believe bubble flares are imparted by scripts, as they could only be placed on a weapon with no scripts.

[Mogonis]

I believe bubble flares are imparted by scripts, as they could only be placed on a weapon with no scripts.
I'm still going to plead. He needs to pity me. Bubble flares are silly.

[m444w]

the name is stupid, the flares are nice.

[Mogonis]

They're dumb, and make no sense as flares on a weapon. And they're reminiscent of the nanosuit in Crysis.

[m444w]

My warrior rather liked the shortsword I had for his offhand. warrior redux + HCPing + HDPing every couple of minutes? yes please.

[Mogonis]

Even if it were my primary, I'd rather it be further enchantable. I have plenty of blood. I don't need HDP.

[thefarmer]

What flares are imparted by scripts?

Bubble flares, returners, mechanical flares, banshee flares, those type of things. Most anything that's considered rare and provides mechanical benefit are.

The snake flares on this weapon are pure fluff. Now, had they been one of the three combat snake flares (poison, petrification and whatever else), then they would be considered "flares imparted by scripts".

[Mogonis]

That's dumb. If Storven won't remove bubble flares, who ever will?

[Belnia]

From my understanding, it goes like this.

Non-scripted flares: Fire, Acid, Ice, Impact (Vibration), Lightning, Disintegration, Disruption, Vacuum, Plasma, and Steam.
I've found that if the bardsong says "some sort of substance/elemental" it's a non scripted flare. If you can add the flare to an already scripted weapon, it would be a non-script flare (like ice flares on the snakey script axe here).

Scripted flares: Mana vials, bubble flares, mechanical flares, snake flares (the plain old snake with no flares is a set of scripts), polearm re-balancing flares, rotating flares, Ironwright's holy flares, returners, petrification flares, poison vial flares, Coraesine double-strikes, death weapon flares, pretty much anything else.

Also, in the past this service wouldn't work on items that have flares/weighting as part of their inherent properties. No removing fire flares from drakar weapons, or no taking the light crit weighting off razern weapons.

[Mogonis]

Curses to whoever put bubble flares on a krodera fal (if it wasn't Nordred)!

[nub]

Curses to whoever put bubble flares on a krodera fal (if it wasn't Nordred)!

I thought I saw those bubble flare cirtificates going for a shit load of coin though. Why not just sell it and buy another krodera fal

[Mogonis]

Another krodera fal?

[Marl]

Hell I have 3 in my locker...doesnt everyone?

[nub]

Hell I have 3 in my locker...doesnt everyone?

I have 1 , what's so special about krodera? I haven't been on in a while.

[Mogonis]

Sellin' it?

[nub]

Sellin' it?

I'm frozen. Not opening any time soon, i don't think.

[Mogonis]

Remember what it is?

[nub]

no

[Mogonis]

Useless!

[nub]

Useless!

That's what she said!

[Morph]

cold flares aren't that bad. They are really good against stuff in the eye on teras

Lolleia swings an icy blue vultite falchion at a fire elemental!
AS: +456 vs DS: +398 with AvD: +36 + d100 roll: +80 = +174
... and hits for 21 points of damage!
The guiding force leaves Lolleia.

** Lolleia's blue vultite falchion glows intensely with a cold blue light! **

... 60 points of damage!
The fire elemental sputters violently, cascading flames all around as it collapses in a final fiery display.

Lolleia leaps from hiding to attack!
Lolleia swings an icy blue vultite falchion at a red tsark!
AS: +381 vs DS: +175 with AvD: +32 + d100 roll: +37 = +275
... and hits for 69 points of damage!
Crossing slash to chest catches the red tsark's attention!

** Lolleia's blue vultite falchion glows intensely with a cold blue light! **

... 50 points of damage!
Right hand freezes solid before falling off! Say hello to Lefty!
The red tsark screams in agony and falls to the ground, clutching at his mangled right c

[Brian]

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