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Atlanteax
11-30-2009, 11:39 AM
I couldn't find any older threads that centered around bull-dogs and their record for being violent dogs.

But anyhow, here's another strike against the breed:

(in the meantime, it seems that there is a strong correlation between these sort of stories and that the owners involved are generally not ideal pet owners)

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6937776.ece

A four-year-old boy has been savaged to death by a dog in Liverpool.

The child, named locally as John-Paul Foulkes, was attacked by the ’bulldog’ type mastiff at the home in the Wavertree area of the city he shared with his 63-year-old grandmother.

She suffered multiple bite marks as she wrestled to free her grandson from the dog’s jaws. He was so severely injured he died at the scene.

Dog handlers and armed response officers answered an emergency at the house, where neighbours described the brown and white dog’s “hellish” barking, shortly at 12.24am. Following a safety assessment, the animal was shot dead on the spot.

Lawrence Crewe, 53, a neighbour, said: “We heard a terrible barking that went on for more than 20 minutes. It was a hellish, blood-chilling noise and we wondered what could be going on.

“A few minutes later we heard two gunshots and the barking stopped. Only now we know the full horror of what has happened.

“It is a heart breaking tragedy. He was a lovely, happy little lad. We used to see him playing in the front garden or walking down the street with his grandmother.”

The grandmother was treated for her injuries at the Royal Liverpool Hospital but they are not thought to be life threatening.

Much of the terraced street remained sealed off by police as forensic experts worked at the scene.

Neighbours described a “ferocious” dog that many in the street had been wary of approaching.

Amos Ankara, another neighbour, said:“It was an accident waiting to happen, keeping that ferocious dog in the house with a young boy. Even the owner’s friends would not go near it. Everyone in the street was wary of it.”

Residents complained that the ownership of ’fighting dogs’ has long been a problem in the area. The dogs are said to be a status symbol for their owners.

Gillian Watson, 46, said: “There are lots of dangerous type dogs around here. You always see young lads with pit bull dogs roaming around.

“I have a dog myself and when I take him for a walk sometimes it is quite terrifying because you think your dog is going to be attacked.”

Another neighbour, who declined to be named, said a number of residents had complained to the local Housing Association about the problem of dogs.

He said: “About 12 months ago one of them tore a pet cat to pieces in the middle of the street. You see them all the time, they are huge animals and it is very threatening.”

Veterinary surgeons have been carrying out a post mortem examination on the dog to establish its breed.

Chief Superintendent Steve Ashley, of Merseyside Police, said: “This is a tragic incident and a full and thorough investigation will be carried out into the circumstances surrounding this young boy’s death. Officers are with the family and our sympathies are with them at this time.

“Of utmost importance in such incidents is the safety of the public and of police officers.

“When officers arrived at the address the dog was in an agitated state in the front garden of the property and was deemed to be a danger to the public.

“As a result we were left with no other option but to have the animal destroyed quickly and humanely.”

The tragedy comes almost three years after five-year-old Ellie Lawrenson was mauled to death by the family’s pet pitbull dog in nearby St Helens.

Ellie was attacked and killed by Reuben on New Year’s Day in 2007. Jacqueline Simpson, 45, her grandmother, who was looking after the child, was cleared of her manslaughter after a trial. Her brother Kiel Simpson, was jailed for eight weeks for owning a banned dog.

Kuyuk
11-30-2009, 11:44 AM
poor kid.

cats > dogs

Drew
11-30-2009, 12:00 PM
Sounds like it was a bullmastiff. There's a dog you wouldn't want to tussle with.

Xaerve
11-30-2009, 12:08 PM
’bulldog’ type mastiff

Yea, very different than a bulldog.

Friends have several bulldogs and they've always been great.

Paradii
11-30-2009, 12:15 PM
Yea, very different than a bulldog.

Friends have several bulldogs and they've always been great.


My buddy's english bulldog is one of the nicest dogs I've met. Bred retarded and ugly as fuck, but nice.

Belnia
11-30-2009, 12:27 PM
We try to pick out the dumbest dogs at the Animal Defense League whenever we adopt. They're usually the sweetest, and most tolerant, animals you can find. They've usually got an abundance of pit bulls, mastiffs and other "tough" dogs because very few people with kids are willing to adopt from those breeds.

Our brilliant strategy backfired on our most recent dog, a mutt with a heavy border collie leaning (she's got the size and coloration, but not so much the working dog smarts). Except when it comes to stealing food from the table, counter or trash can. Then she's an idiot savant. If it isn't nailed down, it will be her lunch. Can't put one paw in front of the other some mornings, but if it involves taking food that does not belong to her, she finds a way.

Asile
11-30-2009, 12:33 PM
I was gonna say.. I've never heard of a bulldog being very violent. Not that I have a ton of experience around bulldogs.

Think what ya'll want about Rachel Ray, but she's one of the best advocates for pitbulls who are trained and cared for properly. I was flipping channels the other day and she had Hillary Swank on along with the sweetest pitbull, promoting a drive to get shelter dogs adopted this holiday season.

Of course, with any animal, you have to constantly watch it around young children. My dog's the type who'd show burglars to our best stuff, and so far has been very patient with my 14-month-old (when he gets tired of her not-so-gentle pats, he gets up and moves, doesn't give the slightest growl), but I know there's a chance he could lose his patience. It's rare that the two of them are left totally alone...though part of that is that my dog constantly follows me everywhere, too.

Still... stories like this are never much of a help :(

Belnia
11-30-2009, 12:45 PM
We had a biiiig, rambunctious pit bull loose in our neighborhood a few months back. We put him in the backyard while we were trying to find out who he belonged to, crazy thing chewed through THREE planks of the wooden fence on the bottom, trying to get into the neighbor's yard and play with their golden retriever.

Couldn't find out who he belonged to, we think someone just dumped him in the neighborhood and drove off. Anyway, the secretary at my father's clinic has a brother who runs a junkyard, so the pit bull is now gainfully employed as a professional Junkyard Dog patrolling almost two square miles of junk and being as crazy as he wants.

Nieninque
11-30-2009, 02:07 PM
It's a bigger strike against pikeys and scousers, than it is against the dogs.

AnticorRifling
11-30-2009, 02:26 PM
Do ya like dewgs?

Perriwinkle blo it's fer me ma.

Sam
11-30-2009, 02:37 PM
dags?

AnticorRifling
11-30-2009, 02:38 PM
No one brings a fellah yer size 'less they tryin ta say sometin witout sayin' it.

Fallen
11-30-2009, 03:04 PM
I've an American Bulldog Pit mix. He is smart, and does alright with grown people, but he is otherwise completely retarded around small children and other pets. I've never worried he would attack me, but I don't let anyone near him who I haven't carefully introduced the dog to. I don't think it is so much the breed as it is a lack of socializing by the former owner. The dog is well trained in terms of commands, and being left unsupervised in the apartment. He will just never be allowed to be near another animals or small children without strict supervision and restraint.

Stanley Burrell
11-30-2009, 05:47 PM
lulz @ Super Dad.

P.S.

Bulldog:

http://cdn-www.dailypuppy.com/media/dogs/anonymous/jiggs_bulldog07.jpg_w450.jpg

Bulldog Mastiff:

http://www.love-my-english-mastiffs.com/images/american-bandogge-mastiff.jpg

Parkbandit
11-30-2009, 06:07 PM
Bulldog:

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/images19/OldeEnglishBulldoggeWoodlandBulldogs.jpg

Bulldog Mastiff:

http://breederinfocenter.com/images2/20080212140942_142805_1.jpg

Paradii
11-30-2009, 06:08 PM
Man that bulldog is an ugly bitch

Parkbandit
11-30-2009, 06:10 PM
Man that bulldog is an ugly bitch

Yea... it actually took me some time to find that ugly of a picture of a bulldog.

If I didn't love my Puggle so much, I'd definately get a bulldog.

Methais
11-30-2009, 06:16 PM
http://www.freewebs.com/truewrestlingfan/bulldogs.jpg

BigWorm
11-30-2009, 06:20 PM
It's bullmastiff, not bulldog mastiff.

Warriorbird
11-30-2009, 06:31 PM
Bulldogs are great. If I were going for a purebred I'd strongly consider one.

NocturnalRob
11-30-2009, 06:32 PM
Why the fuck was a 4-year-old up past midnight anyway?
I hate fucking pikeys.

Methais
11-30-2009, 06:32 PM
Dachshund > Bulldogs + everything else in the universe

Especially dapple.

Celephais
11-30-2009, 06:53 PM
Why the fuck was a 4-year-old up past midnight anyway?
I hate fucking pikeys.
He was getting eaten by a dog... didn't you read the article?

NocturnalRob
11-30-2009, 07:02 PM
Nah, I stopped reading when I saw it was a UK link. Who gives a shit?