Evil restaurant owners

[Celephais]

http://gawker.com/5409080/new-york-restaurant-owners-turn-evil?skyline=true&s=x

Times are tough, and people are sat at home chewing bellybutton fluff instead of eating out or ordering in. What are restaurant owners doing? Some are not paying staff, and others are sending abusive emails calling them "fucking lazy motherfuckers."
Vadim Ponorovsky, the owner of Paradou, a restaurant in the Meatpacking district, described on its website (http://www.paradounyc.com/) as a "light-filled, airy oasis... filled with warmth and charm," really REALLY wants waitstaff to collect email addresses from customers, presumably so he can spam them. Here's the happy, team-building email he sent out, from a tipster.

To All,
Please read this email carefully. This is the last time we will be discussing this.
This weekend, saturday and sunday we had 451 customers. Guess how many emails we collected? 60? 80? 40? No. None of those. We, or more acurately you, collected 2 emails. Thats less than half of one percent. 2 fucking emails.
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU ASSHOLES?!?!?! How many times do we have to tell you how important it is that you collect emails. Everytime we have a slow night and you make no money and you sit there bitching about how you make no money, remember its because youre fucking lazy motherfuckers. YOU SHOULD ALL BE FIRED IMMEDIATELY!!!!! ALL OF YOU, INCLUDING THE HOSTS!!!!
Let me guess, youre probably sitting there saying "Vadim is such a fucking asshole. How dare he speak to me like this. I dont need this." Youre right, you dont, so why dont you get the fuck out. Any and all of you.
Youre probably sitting there saying "How dare he speak to me like this. How dare he not have respect for me". Youre right there also. I have absolutely no respect for any of you. Why? Because every fucking day, all of you continue to show that you have absolutely no respect for me or Alex. So if you dont respect us enough to do the little that we ask you to do, then GET THE FUCK OUT YOU FUCKING LAZY DISRESPECTFUL ASSHOLES!!!!!
Effective immediately, any server or host who fails to collect at least 20 emails per week, will be fined $100. Anyone failing to collect at least 20 emails for two weeks in a month will be fired immediately. No matter what. No matter who you are.
You dont want to do your job, you dont want to do what we ask, you dont belong at Paradou. Go find another place to work.
How dare you disrespect Alex and me this way. How dare you completely ignore what we ask of you time after time after time.
I am sick of all this shit, you bunch of fucking children. This is what I have to deal with at 6AM?!?!? I wouldnt tolerate this from my 13 year old, and Im sure as shit not going to tolerate it from any of you assholes.
You give no respect, you get 10 times back.
Be nice to waiters people! Tip generously! Tell them they look nice! They have enough trouble. And sometimes they don't get even get paid (http://ny1.com/1-all-boroughs-news-content/top_stories/109206/state-labor-dept--finds-park-slope-restaurants-underpaid-workers).
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Nice, hope that place goes under fast.

[Mogonis]

Or e-mail Us at:
info@paradounyc.com

[NocturnalRob]

Sadly, this place isn't going anywhere. People have a huge boner for it.

It's overpriced, crowded, and cramped. The waiters are rude as shit and generally poorly trained. The food, however, is fucking amazing.

Welcome to NYC.

[Celephais]

Why the hell would anyone ever give their emails to waitstaff.

[Kuyuk]

1) I like this guys pep.

2) This type of thing should be done at a FOH service meeting where there's no paperwork.

3) I would only realistically expect 5-10% of customers to give e-mail addresses. Sadly, I think this guys a bit mistaken expecting 100+/week.

4) As to Rob, it just goes to show, BOH >>>> FOH :) :) :)

[Atlanteax]

Why the hell would anyone ever give their emails to waitstaff.

^ This

[Keller]

Paradou is one of the better restaurants in NYC.

I'd be fucking embarrassed to manage that place and be asking for peoples e-mails like I managed an Applebees.

I remember we had to do that when I served at Buca di Beppo. I never did it then, unless it was a table of middle aged persian or black women -- both of whom LOVE free shit.

[NocturnalRob]

I wouldn't say that this is uncommon in some nyc restaurants. I've given my email out a couple times. Elettaria comes to mind. Great little place with amazing food, and they send out a pretty awesome monthly newsletter with the new menu, specials, etc.


Paradou is one of the better restaurants in NYC.
false

I'd be fucking embarrassed to manage that place and be asking for peoples e-mails like I managed an Applebees.
true

[Sean of the Thread]

I don't know anything about that particular restaurant but whomever is trying to obtain the emails should simply offer and incentive such as we'll email you a 25%/$ off your next visit and alert you of special events type of thing.

I've given out my non personal email to almost anyplace possible around town for all sorts of offers sucha as buy one get one free entree type of deals.

[Atlanteax]

I've given out my non personal email to almost anyplace possible around town for all sorts of offers sucha as buy one get one free entree type of deals.

From how you present yourself on these Forums, makes sense why you would.

[Kuyuk]

I remember we had to do that when I served at Buca di Beppo. I never did it then, unless it was a table of middle aged persian or black women -- both of whom LOVE free shit.


I've given out my non personal email to almost anyplace possible around town for all sorts of offers

haha.

[Keller]

false

What is your definition of "better"?

Mine is "within the top quartile."

Once you've determined yours, we can eat our way through NYC and see who is right.

Since you challenged my judgment, you pay.

[Sean of the Thread]

From how you present yourself on these Forums, makes sense why you would.

I'm not ashamed of being thrifty. /shrug

Up to a year ago I think I had every kids eat free special memorized for each day as well. Just plain stupid not to save money whenever able.

[Keller]

I'm not ashamed of being thrifty. /shrug

Especially if begging your forum-friends for money is "being thrifty."

ZING

[Drew]

I remember we had to do that when I served at Buca di Beppo.

Are the restrooms at all Buca di Beppos so... unique or is it just the one by me?

[NocturnalRob]

What is your definition of "better"?
I would put it in a list of top 100 restaurants. Near the bottom of the list. There are just so many restaurants that I like more. Obviously it's all opinion anyway, but i would say:

- Momofuku
- Elattaria
- Cacio e Pepe
- Buenos Aires
- Al Forno
- Crave Ceviche
- Little Giant
- Dovetail
- Riingo
- Spotted Pig
- Za Za
- Takahachi

And then obviously there are the big ones.

- Le Cirque
- Nobu
- Cafe Boulud
- Jean Georges
- Chanterelle (which is unfortunately now closed)

and on and on and on. You get the idea. As I said before, Paradou has amazing food. But that's all they have. There are plenty of other places that have equally if not better food that don't make you feel like a piece of shit for deigning to darken their door.

[AnticorRifling]

I notice your list doesn't have Olive Garden. Might want to edit that in.

[NocturnalRob]

yeah. i've been to the Olive Garden once. I was taken there by a client when I was working for a consulting startup in DC. The client was the head of a newspaper out in bumblefuck, PA. We drove there in his cherry red Corvette and he knew all the waitresses by their first names.

It was simultaneously appalling and awesome.

[Kuyuk]

if you've eaten at all those restaurants, you make too much money :(

[NocturnalRob]

I've been in New York for almost 2.5 years. And I was traveling up here to visit my ex for a good 2 years before that. It's not all that difficult to go to one amazing restaurant a month.

[Kuyuk]

it is for me /cry

[Paradii]

I notice your list doesn't have Olive Garden. Might want to edit that in.


I can't tell if this is a joke or not!

[NocturnalRob]

AR sometimes thinks he's funny. Unfortunately, he forgets that he lives in Indiana. So it's entirely possible that Olive Garden is haute cuisine.

Also, he has two sons. Anything that offers unlimited salad and breadsticks and a bottomless pasta bowl, he's taking them up on that.

[NocturnalRob]

it is for me /cry
and also, Restaurant Week is fucking money for this. $35 or whatever for a prix fixe menu at most restaurants. it's pretty awesome.

[AnticorRifling]

It was a joke. And fuck you Rob.

[Skeeter]

sadly Olive garden is probably in the top 50 around here. Not much in Dayton. If I drive an hour to columbus or Cinci my choices open up tremendously. Still a god damn lot of chains though.

[AnticorRifling]

We had some grinders brought in from a local shop there in Kettering last week when I was onsite.

I'll probably be back there early-mid Dec and I'm requesting them again.

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Side note last time I was there for a week they kept taking me to places like Cheesecake Factory, Mongolian BBQ, PF Changs, etc right there at the place called "The Green" I think. I was like come on I have this shit in Indy take me to a hole in the wall kick ass local joint.

[Skeeter]

We had some grinders brought in from a local shop there in Kettering last week when I was onsite.

I'll probably be back there early-mid Dec and I'm requesting them again.

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Side note last time I was there for a week they kept taking me to places like Cheesecake Factory, Mongolian BBQ, PF Changs, etc right there at the place called "The Green" I think. I was like come on I have this shit in Indy take me to a hole in the wall kick ass local joint.

There's some good shit around here no doubt (just not much). Next time you're in kettering check out the Dorothy Lane Market. It's a gourmet grocery up against Harrod's in a poll for best in the world.

[AnticorRifling]

I will do that.

[Kuyuk]

I turned down a job because during our interview process, they took me out to eat at Outback, instead of a local place.

I r bastard.

[AnticorRifling]

That's not a bastard that's a retard. J O B > unemployed.

[ElvenFury]

That's not a bastard that's a retard. J O B > unemployed.

You're assuming he wasn't already employed, and simply exploring other alternatives.

[AnticorRifling]

Don't make me burn your house down.

[ElvenFury]

Once again, son, get off the juice.

[AnticorRifling]

I wish.

[Kuyuk]

yeah, I was already employed at the time. It was almost a year ago.

But still, you're wanting to hire a from scratch chef, for a eco friendly sustainable concept, and you bring your prospective new hire to a chain restaurant.

wtf?

Plus, they werent going to assist with relocation, and the pay was about the same I was currently making. So it didnt make sense to take the position.

[EasternBrand]

Yeah, I mean, I agree and whatever, but have you ever even TRIED the Bloomin' Onion?

[Kuyuk]

I have tried a piece, but I would never order a whole onion thats deepfried. holy fuck people should die from eating that shit.

plz see my post in picture thread with hippy food

[NocturnalRob]

My one experience with Outback was the Bloomin' Onion. That shit is tasty as hell. One hour later my intestines died.

One Outback experience in a lifetime is enough for me.

[Parkbandit]

Damn.. there are certainly some fancy boys on this forum. I'm glad I don't have such a delicate digestive system.

[NocturnalRob]

over the years, I'm certain "manly men" develop an iron constitution. i hope i never get to a point where 8 J&Cs and an entire Blooming Onion "go down smooth."

[Parkbandit]

over the years, I'm certain "manly men" develop an iron constitution. i hope i never get to a point where 8 J&Cs and an entire Blooming Onion "go down smooth."

I wasn't talking about anything glutinous.. I've just never had a time where I ate something normal and my intestines died.

And it's much easier to eat at will when you are young.

[Sean of the Thread]

Milk destroys me now and used to be able to drink a gallon a day forever.

I'll literally be in the bathroom 10 minutes after having a glass of milk.

[Mogonis]

My chocolate tolerance is shot now. My grandparents and parents would fill us up on chocolate every Easter. I can't eat much chocolate in one session anymore.

[Parkbandit]

And the Fancy Boy Parade continues....

[The Ponzzz]

Man, Rob knows Indiana. Olive Garden really is all South Bend has outside about 5 or 6 other places that I would consider good. There isn't much for fine dining this way though, but some people think they are and still try to hook you up with the single leaflet menu with $40 plates.

[Kuyuk]

I wasn't talking about anything glutinous.. I've just never had a time where I ate something normal and my intestines died.

And it's much easier to eat at will when you are young.



The egg wash and deep frying preparation process of the blooming onion means it can be relatively high in calories. A single blooming onion with dressing has been reported to contain approximately 2,210 calories and 134 grams of fat.[1] A study by the Center for Science in the Public Interest found a slightly lower fat content of 116 grams, including a combined 44 grams of saturated and trans fat.[2] When it existed, the similar style Awesome Blossom at Chili's was ranked "Worst Appetizer in America" by Men's Health Magazine in 2008 for the unusually high totals of calories and fat, with 2,710 calories, 203 grams (1,827 calories) of fat, 194 grams of carbohydrates, and 6,360 milligrams of sodium, with as much fat as 67 strips of bacon. [3] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blooming_onion]

Normal? a days worth of calories in an onion is normal for you?

134 grams of fat in a serving is normal for you?


Maybe this is actually your normal pic? http://s.bebo.com/app-image/7927381305/5411656627/PROFILE/i.quizzaz.com/img/q/u/08/04/06/fat_man.jpg

[ElvenFury]

You're not supposed to eat the onion by yourself. You split it with 3+ people.

[Sean of the Thread]

The only time I've ever eaten any blooming onion was when I had just a few pieces shared with a large party. I would never try to eat one of those my fucking self.

Since I cut my drinking down 90% and started really paying attention to what I eat during the past year I've lost 70lbs but swings between 60-70lbs without exercise.

I was changing mostly because of my fucked up blood pressure which now even without my meds I hover at 150ish/100 and pulse is normally right at 100-102. Go figure.

I also only smoke about 2 cigs a day now.

[NocturnalRob]

You split it with 3+ people.
Apparently not if you're a real man. However, in retrospect, that would have been a much better idea.

[NocturnalRob]

Fuck this thread and the OP. Let's talk about me and my needs!! Hey everyone, look at me!! Seriously! Look!!
Sean, I fucking love you, man.

[Parkbandit]

The egg wash and deep frying preparation process of the blooming onion means it can be relatively high in calories. A single blooming onion with dressing has been reported to contain approximately 2,210 calories and 134 grams of fat.[1] A study by the Center for Science in the Public Interest found a slightly lower fat content of 116 grams, including a combined 44 grams of saturated and trans fat.[2] When it existed, the similar style Awesome Blossom at Chili's was ranked "Worst Appetizer in America" by Men's Health Magazine in 2008 for the unusually high totals of calories and fat, with 2,710 calories, 203 grams (1,827 calories) of fat, 194 grams of carbohydrates, and 6,360 milligrams of sodium, with as much fat as 67 strips of bacon. [3] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blooming_onion]

Normal? a days worth of calories in an onion is normal for you?

134 grams of fat in a serving is normal for you?


Maybe this is actually your normal pic? http://s.bebo.com/app-image/7927381305/5411656627/PROFILE/i.quizzaz.com/img/q/u/08/04/06/fat_man.jpg

Since when does someone sit down and eat an entire blooming onion? Didn't something in your tiny brain think "Sheesh, that seems a bit high.. maybe I'm not quite as smart as I thought I was"

If you can't control yourself around a blooming onion to the point where you have to eat the whole thing, then cry about it later on.. maybe this is actually your normal pic?

http://i.realone.com/assets/rt/ap/bc045de0-3d5b-4e4f-89a3-42cd9cfa3af3.jpg

Stop worrying about living up to the adage of "Don't trust a skinny chef".

[Parkbandit]

Apparently not if you're a real man. However, in retrospect, that would have been a much better idea.

Reading is fundamental.


I wasn't talking about anything glutinous..

[NocturnalRob]

I wasn't talking about anything glutinous.

Reading is fundamental.
Oh, I'm sorry, assbag. I just assumed that since you used the word "glutinous," that you were talking about something "gummy," and were just being old and senile. Did you mean "gluttonous?"

And yes, reading is fundamental. Part of reading is understanding the definition of words. Dumb shit.

[Parkbandit]

Oh, I'm sorry, assbag. I just assumed that since you used the word "glutinous," that you were talking about something "gummy," and were just being old and senile. Did you mean "gluttonous?"

And yes, reading is fundamental. Part of reading is understanding the definition of words. Dumb shit.

OH NOEZ! THE SPELLING POLICE R HERE!

Seriously, you should relax. The last thing I want is to upset your tender tummy, little fella. Stress, in your frail condition, isn't good as it can lead to ulcers.

Deep breaths.

[NocturnalRob]

says the oldest guy on the forum. but thanks for defending my delicate sensibilities. don't get all pissy because you made a comment that was asinine and nonsensical.

and please, tell me about ulcers. what are they like? dentures too for that matter. i'm sure i'll need to know in another lifetime. fucktwat.

[Keller]

says the oldest guy on the forum. but thanks for defending my delicate sensibilities. don't get all pissy because you made a comment that was asinine and nonsensical.

and please, tell me about ulcers. what are they like? dentures too for that matter. i'm sure i'll need to know in another lifetime. fucktwat.

Judging from the glaring omission in that list of maladies old men have, you already understand what impotence is like?

[NocturnalRob]

i could spend all day listing the maladies from which PB suffers. I chose to ignore the low-hanging fruit.

See what I did there?

And no. I do not suffer from impotence. Ask...I dunno, the bitches.

[Sean of the Thread]

Or just ask Daniel...duh.

[NocturnalRob]

Duh