Fix my pure mage

[Mogonis]

I pumped too much into the 500s. I know I need more 900 ranks (and his DS is hurting), but what else should I do? I've had him use 909 and 505 primarily, and 516 when low on mana.

Already used the fixskills, so I'll wait out the migration. Advice?



Race: Half-Elf Profession: Wizard (shown as: Firestormer)
Gender: Male Age: 38 Expr: 1162837 Level: 32
Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 76 (13) ... 76 (13)
Constitution (CON): 68 (9) ... 68 (9)
Dexterity (DEX): 91 (25) ... 91 (25)
Agility (AGI): 65 (17) ... 65 (17)
Discipline (DIS): 69 (4) ... 69 (4)
Aura (AUR): 94 (22) ... 94 (22)
Logic (LOG): 96 (23) ... 96 (23)
Intuition (INT): 66 (8) ... 66 (8)
Wisdom (WIS): 81 (15) ... 81 (15)
Influence (INF): 66 (13) ... 66 (13)
Mana: 139




Skill Name
Armor Use..........................| 20 4 4
Physical Fitness...................| 128 34 34
Arcane Symbols.....................| 156 56.940 34 3 days, 17 hours, 22 minutes
Magic Item Use.....................| 168 68 68
Spell Aiming.......................| 168 68 68
Harness Power......................| 168 68 68
Elemental Mana Control.............| 128 34 34
Elemental Lore - Air...............| 128 34 34
Perception.........................| 128 34 34
Climbing...........................| 25 5 5
Swimming...........................| 25 5 5

Spell Lists
Major Elemental....................| 34.613 34 3 hours, 0 minutes

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 14 14

Spell Lists
Wizard.............................| 23 25 ASAP (will rise when points are

[ZeP]

Drop it back to 1x Harness Power, and if you use a runestaff and want to increase DS you're going to wrong way with those Arcane Symbol ranks. Arcane Symbols and Magic Item use are almost freebies towards runestaff DS.

1x in 500's is not a bad idea at all, but you do have two extra ranks.

You probably should have, or be closer to having, spell 425. You're probably starting to really need that bolt AS.

Also you said you use 909 and 505.. those are both considered set ups. The 505 bolt is for a knockdown/stun then you want to switch to 904 or 906.

900s are meh. I never really use that term but it accurately describes the 900s. Until you can reliably cast 930 the only thing 900s really does is increase familiar duration and add a small amount of DS.

[Mogonis]

He does have a runestaff, but I'm not really digging them. Aren't shields better?

Should I put him up to 425, stop the 500s at a certain spell, and dump the rest into the 900s?

[Methais]

I don't really see anything wrong with it except the extra physical fitness (unless you're in GoS and need the stam), and you should be doubling MIU and AS. Maybe drop some MjE to push towards 425. Looks fine otherwise.

What are you having problems doing?

[Mogonis]

His defense is awful, and I agree about 425. He really needs all the AS he can get. His AS is 222 I think right now.

[ZeP]

Should I put him up to 425, stop the 500s at a certain spell, and dump the rest into the 900s?

I think someone led you astray on the 900s, although 913 adds DS, the 500s also increases DS with 503, 507, and helps your 516 CS.

[Mogonis]

Naw, he just needs DS.

[pabstblueribbon]

Switch to THW warmage.

Problem fixed.

[Mogonis]

Heh. I've seriously considered, but Mogonis is all melee, so I wanted to try a pure mage.

[phantasm]

What gear are you using, I dont see any blatant reason his DS would suck.

After getting 24 PT, armor use for doubles, 1x HP, 1.5X MIU/AS....


Dump everything you have into spell ranks. 500/400's at 1x extras into wizard until you get 925/930. Then you dump extra's into 500's.

I find it funny that you have 1x air lore and hunt with 505 instead of 906 because your an Air Mage it really did makes me laugh.

Elemental Lore's are really in a messed up state.

EDIT: Oh you might be using him for a pocket mage which is a good reason to have a bunch of air lore.

[Celephais]

I'm like a broken record but... pick up a shield and see how your DS is... don't even bother training a rank in it, and account for whatever enchant you would be using, I'm guessing you could at least get a 5x without breaking a sweat.

Where are you hunting? If you're not hunting the wizard cake path then you're doing something wrong...
Rats-Fire Guardians-Fire cats/warcats-krov-glacier-figures-kiramon-teras thraks/pyros-ice slush-blighted-wyneb-tower-otf
(that order might be slightly off, you're probably in the glacier/figures range)

[Mogonis]

He has a 4x runestaff and 4x full leathers. I'm still trying to get him better (HCP) leathers. No one's selling any that I can afford.

Methais got me to train up to 530, 425, and 930, with extra TPs going into 425 ranks.

I'll try a shield for fun, but does anyone know if holding a wand in the left hand hinders defense when holding a runestaff?

I've been trying him in skeletal giants and rotting corpses. I need to decide which society to put him through though. I put him in Voln when I rolled him in like 1999, but I can't stand Voln. I may try Sunfist just because everyone's pulling sweet gear from warcamp chests. I've done CoL twice already. A third time makes me sigh.

Anyone wanna give me a free fixskills potion? :D

[Askip]

<< does anyone know if holding a wand in the left hand hinders defense when holding a runestaff? >>

I believe holding anything in the off-hand is -20DS but that needs to be verified, I have not paid attention to my DS numbers in years.

:D

[yesicj]

Wand/rod in the left hand doesn't reduce runestaff DS. I make use of that pretty frequently.

[Methais]

Methais got me to train up to 530, 425, and 930, with extra TPs going into 425 ranks.

I suggested 520, 930, then go Minor Elemental until you max out 425/430 at 75 ranks. Though you could stop at 920 for now if you're worried about blowing yourself up with 930 failures, which will probably happen for a bit longer.

Then beef up your major ranks.

[Mogonis]

Er, 520, not 530. Sorry.

[Celephais]

I'm going to disagree w/ Methais. You won't be able to reliably use 930, you could maybe make 5x w/ 925, but that's up to you, at those levels all I wanted was more AS, as DS wasn't even on my radar.

Mechanically you want 913 (maybe 919 for bounties), 425, and 520... then MnE and MjE at level (stopping MnE at 75 as he said, MjE shouldn't stop). Keeping MjE at level is a higher priority than MnE to me, extra CS for leech, and if you can afford to use it immolate, even low level it's situationally awesome, and the extra AS from 513, and the DS from 503/507 make it outperform MnE's only per level benefits of +0.5AS/DS from 425/430 respectively.

[Mogonis]

I have no short-term plans to enchant. I'd like to get familiar with and comfortable playing a pure mage first.

I just want enough DS not to get stunned, even in defensive.

[Methais]

(maybe 919 for bounties), 425, and 520... then MnE and MjE at level (stopping MnE at 75 as he said, MjE shouldn't stop). Keeping MjE at level is a higher priority than MnE to me, extra CS for leech, and if you can afford to use it immolate, even low level it's situationally awesome, and the extra AS from 513, and the DS from 503/507 make it outperform MnE's only per level benefits of +0.5AS/DS from 425/430 respectively.

425 also adds to your CS and 430 to your TD.

[Celephais]

Where are you hunting? (I realized I forgot to add the jungle on teras in my little "wizard easypath", that might be viable at your level)

[Celephais]

425 also adds to your CS and 430 to your TD.
Oh yeah, woops... well this is why I try to keep both MjE and MnE at level...

[Mogonis]

Not hunting much at all. He dies just about very time he leaves town, so I was doing non-combat bounties for awhile. But skeletal giants, ice trolls, rotting corpses.

[Methais]

Not sure how hard they hit but you might wanna try Greymist on Teras.

Jungle troll chieftans are 30 and fire pwns the shit out of trolls. Jungle trolls are only 26 but should be cake, and fog beetles are 32 and I don't remember much about them.

[Mogonis]

Bah. I'm not taking him to Teras. He has his own account for a reason. ;)

[Methais]

Teras rocks. Especially because that's where I am.

[Askip]

<< Wand/rod in the left hand doesn't reduce runestaff DS. >>

That makes sense, it's probably anything non-wand that lowers DS a little, I will check this shortly.

:D

[Askip]

Huge DS drop with a non-wand in left hand:

>An Ithzir scout swings a gleaming steel broadsword at you!
AS: +412 vs DS: +726 with AvD: +35 + d100 roll: +2 = -277
A clean miss.
>An Ithzir scout thrusts with a gleaming crystal-tipped fork at you!
AS: +424 vs DS: +726 with AvD: +29 + d100 roll: +60 = -213
A clean miss.
>ge legYou remove a table leg from in your spidersilk cloak.
>An Ithzir janissary swings a spiral-hafted handaxe at you!
AS: +411 vs DS: +617 with AvD: +31 + d100 roll: +72 = -103
A clean miss.
>An Ithzir scout thrusts with a gleaming crystal-tipped fork at you!
AS: +424 vs DS: +617 with AvD: +29 + d100 roll: +68 = -96
A clean miss.

Sheesh.

:D

[Askip]

I knew there was a reason I put my blade away after skinning:

>An Ithzir scout swings a gleaming steel broadsword at you!
AS: +422 vs DS: +669 with AvD: +35 + d100 roll: +52 = -160
A clean miss.
>ge kniYou remove an onyx-pommeled engraved mithril knife from in your spidersilk cloak.
>An Ithzir scout snatches up a twisted crystal-tipped staff!
The Ithzir scout runs a blue finger along the crystal-tipped staff with no hint of emotion.
>An Ithzir janissary swings a spiral-hafted handaxe at you!
AS: +411 vs DS: +563 with AvD: +31 + d100 roll: +78 = -43
A clean miss.
>An Ithzir scout swings a gleaming steel broadsword at you!
AS: +412 vs DS: +563 with AvD: +35 + d100 roll: +22 = -94
A clean miss.

:D

[Marl]

just a fyi I am a lvl 35 pure using a runestaff + wands
I hunt from levels 33-42 quite easily unless something hits me with a HIgh td

Bolt AS is like 255 ds in defensive is like 360 or so, only way I die is if I get stunned while in offensive (VERY rare) or if I fail to ward one of those nasty hag or corpse spells.


Skills:
Skill Name | Current Current
| Bonus Ranks
Physical Fitness...................| 108 26
Arcane Symbols.....................| 174 74
Magic Item Use.....................| 174 74
Spell Aiming.......................| 172 72
Harness Power......................| 172 72
Elemental Mana Control.............| 134 37
Perception.........................| 102 24
Climbing...........................| 90 20
Swimming...........................| 90 20

Spell Lists
Major Elemental....................| 30

Spell Lists
Minor Elemental....................| 35

Spell Lists
Wizard.............................| 22

Spell Ranks:
Minor Elemental :35
Major Elemental :30
Wizard Base :22

Stats: Normal (Bonus) ... Enhanced (Bonus)
Strength (STR): 67 (8) ... 67 (8)
Constitution (CON): 53 (1) ... 53 (1)
Dexterity (DEX): 100 (30) ... 100 (30)
Agility (AGL): 93 (36) ... 93 (36)
Discipline (DIS): 91 (5) ... 91 (5)
Aura (AUR): 100 (30) ... 100 (30)
Logic (LOG): 86 (18) ... 86 (18)
Intuition (INT): 79 (14) ... 79 (14)
Wisdom (WIS): 54 (2) ... 54 (2)
Influence (INF): 55 (12) ... 55 (12)

[yesicj]

Askip's last two posts

Yea, that's why I wait until everything is dead before I start picking up loot unless I'm positive they can't tag me in defensive. Forgetting to do that plus a 2 second lag is about all it took for me to go from in control to prone, stunned and, pretty much always dead in sents. Stupid eat another sent plus spirit strike bonuses.

[BriarFox]

just a fyi I am a lvl 35 pure using a runestaff + wands
I hunt from levels 33-42 quite easily unless something hits me with a HIgh td

Bolt AS is like 255

Why's your Bolt AS so low? My level 20 wizard has a 224 Bolt AS (CoL).

[Marl]

Why's your Bolt AS so low? My level 20 wizard has a 224 Bolt AS (CoL).

I had 297 (i think) AS before I quit col ....(just joined GoS)
the 25x was self spelled no signs or anything

[BriarFox]

I had 297 (i think) AS before I quit col ....(just joined GoS)
the 25x was self spelled no signs or anything

Ahh.

[Nihiladrem]

Do this and you'll be fine:

4 Armor Use
26 Physical Fitness
2x Arcane Symbols
2x Magic Item Use
1x Harness Power (You'll be able to leech)
1x Elemental Mana Control
1x 400's (Keep it equal to your level)
1x 500's (Keep it equal to your level)
20 Air Lore if you want tonis bolt
900's As many as you can afford

[Androidpk]

1. Sit at a table

2. Give me spellups

3. ???

4. Profit!

[Methais]

1. Sit at a table

2. Give me spellups

3. I cyber with you.

4. Profit!

Fixed.

[Mogonis]

He'd make love to my katana before even considering me.

But let him. An empath will love that mess.

[Mogonis]

He's now level 34 (36). He'll be wearing 6x (eventually HCP) doubles, so he needs 15 armor ranks. That's 210 PTPs, which I've subtracted from his total available PTPs below.

MTPs: 1722
PTP: 1354

15 Armor


GO!


Also, I don't see how it's possible to 1x the 400s and 500s and still have at least 930. He doesn't seem to have the TPs.

Does training in Arcane Symbols benefit anything other than scroll reading and runestaff DS? Is it absolutely necessary to 2x it right now?

[Celephais]

no it's not necessary to 2x it, if you are going runestaff it's not a bad idea. I don't think having 930 is as crucial as you might seem to think it is, familiar gate is probably just going to get you killed at that level.