720

[spraggeth]

A sorc who is going to go the focused 720 route, can he quit 2xing in sorc spell circle after he is 20 trains above his level, or does he need to continue to 2x?

[crb]

why would you 2x in the sorcerer circle for life? Do you not want defense?

Enjoy being poor and never uphunting.

[Numbers]

Short answer, no. You should 2x in spells every level, 3x when possible, and one of those should always be sorc.

[Drew]

He asked if he needed to 2x in the sorc circle, not in spells overall.

[Asrial]

..and it's +21 over level, not +20. The 21st training gets you a full CS point.

[spraggeth]

well good to know it is the 21st because i just got 26 and i wasnt about to train in. my DS is good right now.....

why you say enjoy never uphunting?

[Izzy]

well good to know it is the 21st because i just got 26 and i wasnt about to train in. my DS is good right now.....

why you say enjoy never uphunting?

I'm not implosion expert, but I'd guess there's a fairly strong level factor involved, as with many maneuver based abilities. Spikethorn comes to mind. Also, you never get treasure.

[Asha]

Training in sorc circle is not what makes your Focused implosion stronger or even factors into its strength.
Technically you could stop training in sorcerer circle after you've learned 720 and still be a viable FI sorcerer till cap. Just don't forget to train Spell aiming and perception.
Shit you can spend the thousands of saved points on something really fucking stupid on say, Archery, Stalking and Hiding, Combat Maneuvers and Pick / Disarm.

[spraggeth]

i was looking at krakiipedia and it didnt say anything about perceptions. how much does perception help and should i just be 1xing or 2xing in it?

[Reawing]

i was looking at krakiipedia and it didnt say anything about perceptions. how much does perception help and should i just be 1xing or 2xing in it?

I 1X on my sorice. Works fine. Some people are enamored with perception, but I'd rather put those points towards extra spells and help my CS, TD, and DS.

-Reawing

[Morph]

eventually you want your spell training to look like this:

Minor Spiritual...64
Minor Elemental...77
Sorcerer Base.....162

It's what all the cool kids do.

[whiteflash]

You gesture at a grizzled red tsark.
A void rips open in the area, directly above a grizzled red tsark!
The red tsark lets out a silent scream as his eyeballs are sucked out!
The eyeballs burst into thousands of pieces covering his face.
+601 Hits.

[You have completed this portion of your Adventurer's Guild task.]

The red tsark goes limp and he falls over as the fire slowly fades from his eyes.

Everything in the room seemed to stay in place. The void disappears without further incident.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

[Asha]

eventually you want your spell training to look like this:

Minor Spiritual...64
Minor Elemental...77
Sorcerer Base.....162

It's what all the cool kids do.

Waste!

[Swami71]

Waste!

You should try it. Gets you 1 more CS.

[Asha]

192 tp's = 1 CS?
This game is lol

[Methais]

eventually you want your spell training to look like this:

Minor Spiritual...64
Minor Elemental...77
Sorcerer Base.....162

It's what all the cool kids do.

I thought the max CS formula was 66/75/162?

[spraggeth]

I 1X on my sorice. Works fine. Some people are enamored with perception, but I'd rather put those points towards extra spells and help my CS, TD, and DS.

-Reawing

i havent been training in perception. so should i start 2xing for a while to play catch up? or should i just start 1xing?

[Swami71]

I thought the max CS formula was 66/75/162?

The formula is off a little for at least sorcerers. After testing 64/77/160 gets you 1 more CS.

EDIT: and yes credit goes to Morph

[Morph]

yah 64, 162, 77 is the best for sorcerer's. I tested it and Siphere and Sadrae copied me :D

edit: But if I'm wrong, and someone knows how to get a sorcerer CS higher than 540 without enhancives/outside spells let me know :P

[Fallen]

550+ with a sorcerer CS would be a sight to see, enhancives or no.

[Morph]

550+ with a sorcerer CS would be a sight to see, enhancives or no.

lol come by teras and ill rub a heavy quartz orb and dazzle you :P

[spraggeth]

why does everyone say that sorcerers are so bad? everyone talks about that crap. i have fun with mine and i dont think he is terrible or anything. you guys enjoy mid late game with sorc's? im only 27

[Fallen]

We've some spotty lore implimentation, some lackluster spells which are component heavy, and a fair number of largely useless spells. Does that mean sorcerers aren't fun? No, though they do need work. I enjoy my sorcerer to an extent, but I have a lot of nice toys. A distinct lack of dev of late has left me bored with the class, I will admit. We *should* see some work in about one to one and a half years.