COD4: Modern Warfare 2

[GS4Khistian]

Just picked it up for the 360. Anyone else playing?

[Androidpk]

I will be this weekend.

[Ashliana]

I picked it up for the 360. Haven't played it yet, but I am off tomorrow for Veteran's Day. That means.. marathon tonight! <3

[Androidpk]

I love the selection of firearms available. I just don't get why the M14 battle rifle isn't allowed in multi-player.

[Paradii]

Playing the solo campaign now. It's pretty epic.

[Sean of the Thread]

I'd get it for the PC if my computer was more up to date.

In the meantime it's Hearts of Iron and BF2.

[GS4Khistian]

Damn, the multiplayer is pretty fucking intense.

[Khariz]

Got it on PC, but the install procedure is pissing me off.

I put in the first CD, it starts, installs steam, realizes I already have it. I put in a CD key, and then it starts downloading the game instead of installing it off of CDs. Even if I stop it, it still won't install from the CDs.

So now I have to wait until it downloads even though I have two perfectly good CDs sitting here.

[LMingrone]

Just picked it up for 360. Gamertag is "LMingrone".

[Khariz]

Got it on PC, but the install procedure is pissing me off.

I put in the first CD, it starts, installs steam, realizes I already have it. I put in a CD key, and then it starts downloading the game instead of installing it off of CDs. Even if I stop it, it still won't install from the CDs.

So now I have to wait until it downloads even though I have two perfectly good CDs sitting here.

Figured it out in case anyone else has this problem:


USING STEAM LAUNCH OPTIONS TO INSTALL FROM DISC

Log in to Steam and click the My games tab.
Right-click on the game, select Delete local content, and confirm.
Insert the first disc into your computer.
Close Steam (File > Exit).
Go to the Start button and select Run (XP) or type Run in the Search box and choose Run from the list (Vista).
In the Run window type:

"C:\Program Files\Steam\Steam.exe" -install E:

Replace E: with the CD/DVD drive you are installing from if is not correct.
Replace C:\Program Files\Steam if your Steam installation is not in the default location.
Press OK. Your installation should continue from the disc.

[Methais]

Gonna get it on PC sometime this week. Unless the PS3 version has mouse support, and mouse support that doesn't emulate analog controls with a massive deadzone.

Not holding my breath for either so I'll be on PC most likely.

[Paradii]

I am pretty shitty at this game. Fact.

[Androidpk]

I'll be getting the PC version. Oh wait..

[Vimp]

I love the selection of firearms available. I just don't get why the M14 battle rifle isn't allowed in multi-player.

If it was anything like the first modern warfare, by gaining ranks in multiplayer you got to unlock extra weapons, not had a look at this one yet to know though!

[Sean of the Thread]

I look forward to the day I can play this game on a PC.

Until then seriously if anyone plays BF2 on the pc STEP UP TO THE PLATE! Dinner is ready.

[Numbers]

Already on Pirate Bay, downloading it now. Not gonna bother with multiplayer, since there's no dedicated server or mod support. I never really was a huge fan of the multiplayer on the first one, anyway.

[Stunseed]

Already on Pirate Bay, downloading it now. Not gonna bother with multiplayer, since there's no dedicated server or mod support. I never really was a huge fan of the multiplayer on the first one, anyway.

Heh, the multiplayer is practically all I played on the first one. I can't remember how many times I prestiged.

[Belnia]

Hell yeah night vision goggles.

[Alfster]

I picked it up for PC yesterday. I wish I had picked up the previous one and played it again in the last year.

Great game. PC is the only way to play. Fuck consoles.

[Ashliana]

I am liking virtually every addition they made to Multiplayer.

I played through single-player in just a few hours, on Veteran (max) difficulty. It was ridiculously easy compared to World at War, and the plot is nonsense, but I enjoyed it.

[Paradii]

Got placed on a terrible team a few minutes ago. Long story short, the other team had a few pave lows, harriers, and the A130 in the air at the same time and next thing you know. Tactical Nuke.....


How embarrassing...

[Methais]

Got placed on a terrible team a few minutes ago. Long story short, the other team had a few pave lows, harriers, and the A130 in the air at the same time and next thing you know. Tactical Nuke.....


How embarrassing...

http://ui28.gamespot.com/155/pwned_2.jpg
http://buelahman.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/buzny-v-cod2-1.jpg

[Kuyuk]

ridiculously short single player storyline.

I think it took me ~4 hours???

Graphics and everything were kick ass though. I was having a great time until it abruptly ended. I thought I did something wrong.


wtf?? I just restarted it and when I hover over campaign, it says 51% done, even though it ended and went through all the credits a minute ago? wtf.

[Methais]

ridiculously short single player storyline.

I think it took me ~4 hours???

Graphics and everything were kick ass though. I was having a great time until it abruptly ended. I thought I did something wrong.


wtf?? I just restarted it and when I hover over campaign, it says 51% done, even though it ended and went through all the credits a minute ago? wtf.

Achievements? Or maybe you need to pwn it again on a harder difficulty?

I can't peel myself away from multiplayer long enough to finish the campaign.

[Kuyuk]

dunno, but it's lame on that aspect.

doing special ops now

[Makkah]

Been playing Multiplayer lots. MakkahR on Playstation Network.

I suck ass, but it's loads of fun.

[Paradii]

dunno, but it's lame on that aspect.

doing special ops now


you need to beat it on Veteran and collect the 42 hidden intelligence thingies

[Kuyuk]

meh, fuck that

[Kuyuk]

I'm trying to do multiplayer, but I try and join a game, and it sits there waiting for people to join, with ping under 100ms.

There anyway I can try and join games with higher pings? I cant find any settings to change :( :(

[Paradii]

I'm trying to do multiplayer, but I try and join a game, and it sits there waiting for people to join, with ping under 100ms.

There anyway I can try and join games with higher pings? I cant find any settings to change :( :(


I've never had to wait longer than 45 seconds to find a match.

[Kuyuk]

yeah, my fault.

[Ashliana]

I'm still loving it. So much stuff to unlock..

It is tempting to use a shotgun or machine pistol as your secondary weapon, but I would highly recommend the normal pistols. If you do, you unlock the Tactical Knife, which is wielded like Snake from Metal Gear Solid 3--CQC, knife and pistol hand in hand. What it means for the game is very quick, stabby stab stab melee.

Combine it with marathon and lightweight.. you can zip around the map stabbing people. You run so fast, often times you can just sprint into a room someone's camping in, STAB!, and fly out. I went 30-7 and 3-8 about a half-dozen times last night.

Also, people seem to really favor unlocking the AC130 over the gunner copter--big mistake, IMO. The AC130 is worthless at killing people inside buildings and a lot of levels there are so few outdoor areas.. The gunner copter lets you shoot through buildings, has no cooldown on firing, and is generally awesome.

I've been using (5) Precision Airstrike, (7) Harrier Strike and (11) Gunner copter as my perks, and either the stabby build above, or M16+bling(silencer+FMJ)+stopping power+steady aim with the Tactical Knife M9.

Also, a note about harrier strike vs. gunner copter. The copter is more effective at killing people, seems to have more health/etc, but the harrier strike works as an initial airstrike as well. A lot of times, people will shoot down your copter/harrier immediately, so you might as well get an airstrike they *can't* shoot down in first, right?

Anyway, apparently Harrier Strike + Gunner Copter + Tactical Nuke is the best way to get nukes, too. Just gotta get up to 7 kills first, find a good spot, and pray.

[Sean of the Thread]

AC-130 should be able to take down most any structure unless it's hardened wtf?

[Ashliana]

AC-130 should be able to take down most any structure unless it's hardened wtf?

Can't destroy buildings in this game, unfortunately. It'd be really easy to flatten a level if you could. You can shoot through skylights/etc, but walls protect from basically all explosive damage, while guns penetrate walls at a damage penalty.

The AC130 has three different types of ammo.. a machine gun, slightly slower but more powerful burst round, and a large shell.. they have significant cooldowns, but you have to switch between them. When there's an AC130 in the air, though, most people just camp out indoors and shoot rockets at it. The gunner helicopter can kill people in the buildings, stopping them from shooting it down and kills quickly. :X

[Paradii]

http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs017.snc3/12435_198639994592_824394592_2725661_8257606_n.jpg

oh snap!

[Ashliana]

I'm Lv67 in multiplayer now--I just unlocked the Akimbo 1887s shotguns. They are *RIDICULOUSLY* good. I'd always thought it was fairly annoying to fight people using them, but since they're so high-level, few people have.

Having used them, I'll say again: ridiculously good. And from shockingly far away. Even on the opposite side of a fairly large room. Had some guy frothing at the mouth last night--I'd been running around with Marathon+Lightweight+Steady Aim just blowing the shit out of people. Fun times.

[Androidpk]

A friend of mine who plays religiously is working on his 10th prestige. Basically he runs around with the knife stabbing people. Usually always comes out on top with the most kills, by a large margin too.

Is there any reason why the M14 isn't in multiplayer?

[Ashliana]

I'm a big fan of knifing, too. Marathon+Lightweight+Ninja and a Handgun with the Tactical Knife is a lot of fun. I've run into a room with 3 campers on the other team, stabbed them all in a flash and run out. <3

Not sure why that gun isn't in multiplayer if it's in the regular game. Dunno. :X

[Drew]

I'm Lv67 in multiplayer now--I just unlocked the Akimbo 1887s shotguns. They are *RIDICULOUSLY* good. I'd always thought it was fairly annoying to fight people using them, but since they're so high-level, few people have.

Having used them, I'll say again: ridiculously good. And from shockingly far away. Even on the opposite side of a fairly large room. Had some guy frothing at the mouth last night--I'd been running around with Marathon+Lightweight+Steady Aim just blowing the shit out of people. Fun times.

THIS THIS THIS.


I'm just made level 15 and all my gun options suck. Basically the only way for me to win is to loot the corpse for a better gun. Looking forward to level 21 when I can unlock the TAR 21.

[Methais]

I've been pwning with that AUG light machine gun lately. Tons of damage, really accurate, huge ammo clip and good reload time = win.

I've become a knife addict. So much that I get myself killed trying to charge someone when I know I should just shoot them in the face...but I just can't help myself.

[Paradii]

I have had some good luck with the Fal and M16. Also, lately on objective maps like domination and capture the flag, I have been destroying shit with a P90 and magnum w/ tactical knife, with marathon/lightspeed/commando.

[Methais]

I like the magnum a lot but I tend to keep a rocket launcher for my secondary weapon for when some asswafer gets a chopper and destroys everything with the machine gun, which almost always happens.

[Ashliana]

Penny Arcade's comic on Monday takes a jab at dual shotgun whores. =X

http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/725404532_HhdVE-L.jpg

[Methais]

99% of people that complain about dual shotguns will probably stop complaining the second they unlock them and start pwning everyone with it.

[Cephalopod]

I keep getting this thread confused with the one where PB is talking about getting a new gun, and wondering why Methais has a rocket launcher.

[Methais]

I keep getting this thread confused with the one where PB is talking about getting a new gun, and wondering why Methais has a rocket launcher.

My bad. I meant to post about my rocket launcher in the PB gun thread.

Sorry for the confusion.

[Kuyuk]

haha, that penny arcade is funny

I cant play multiplayer, i r lame

[Methais]

Modern Warfare 3 gameplay has already been revealed. It's going to be the most realistic game ever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ffjv9IIxE7I

[Alfster]

http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/modern-warfare-2.php?page=1

[Ashliana]

http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/modern-warfare-2.php?page=1

Funny article. I'm usually pretty thick-skinned when it comes to the pervasive homophobia on XBL, but MW2 is even worse than Halo 3--which was the worst I'd ever seen. The more popular, more "mainstream" a game, the more you get the retarded fourteen-year-olds and college dropouts.

Last weekend, in a series of maybe 10 different matches, I think I heard 40+ separate people spout off a random combination of "gay!" "fags!" "faggots!" "homos!" "queers!" in response to everything from other players, to arbitrarily selected strategies (that they would themselves then adopt), to maps, etc.

I don't really understand why "gay" and its derivatives are seriously the only adjectives/pejoratives that people know, but it's really wearing on you to hear in virtually every match.

[Ashliana]

Oh, also--big pet peeve about MW2 is that free-for-all is basically ruined on the Xbox version by boosters. One person will join a FFA match, and another friend will join him via "Join Session in Progress," even though you aren't supposed to be able to play FFA in parties.

Asshat #1 will take ninja (so people can't find him on heartbeat sensors) and a silenced weapon. Asshat #2 will take ninja and tactical insertion (it lets you respawn where you want). Asshat #1 will kill #2 repeatedly while he respawns, while #1 gets a 25-kill streak, ends the game with a nuke.

Played 6 or 7 FFA matches in a row two nights ago, and every single one had a pair of boosting assholes. I keep a look out on the score screen, can easily identify people doing this (especially if you check their profile, see if the guy with the inexplicably good and inexplicably bad ratios are friends) and search the map to find them. Killing him when he's 23/25 of the way to a nuke is priceless.

[Parkbandit]

Funny article. I'm usually pretty thick-skinned

There is nothing thick skinned about you to be honest. You are one of the most thin skinned person to ever come on these forums.

[Methais]

Cough nonstop. Gamers love to hear people choke and gag, so try to develop an advanced case of pneumonia before logging in. Don't bother hitting the headset's mute button; pressing that is a sign of weakness, like sitting down to pee or yielding for pedestrians.

:lol:

People on the PC version are surprisingly quiet for the most part, except for the occasional serious business player that thinks he has to be MW2's John McEnroe anytime his team falls behind. Sometimes I think I miss the chaos of XBL chatter, since PS3 has roughly 0 on any of its games also.

[AnticorRifling]

retarded fourteen-year-olds and college dropouts.

Last weekend, in a series of maybe 10 different matches, I think I heard 40+ separate people spout off a random combination of "gay!" "fags!" "faggots!" "homos!" "queers!" Me calling them names like retarded 14yr olds, and college dropouts that's different than gay, fag, beef wellington. But PS I'M THICK SKINNED

[Drew]

I've made it into the 20s in level online now. I use the MG4 light machine gun with bling, stopping power, and the hip fire one. I attached a foregrip (bumps accuracy to max) and an ACOG sight and since I've done that I've been destroying people. I went from mid pack to 1st, 2nd, and 3rd in most matches. Still hate Akimbo 1887 shotguns, but with this setup I can often kill them before they kill me since hipfire headshots are pretty easy.

[Parkbandit]

Me calling them names like retarded 14yr olds, and college dropouts that's different than gay, fag, beef wellington. But PS I'M THICK SKINNED

Exactly. Gay should be a protected class though!!!

[Methais]

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e284/flirtyACCsk8er/youbettarecognizebish.jpg

[Ashliana]

There is nothing thick skinned about you to be honest. You are one of the most thin skinned person to ever come on these forums.

Think what you will. The reality, however, is that you know next to nothing about me outside of a random Internet forum.


Me calling them names like retarded 14yr olds, and college dropouts that's different than gay, fag, beef wellington. But PS I'M THICK SKINNED

You're absolutely right. Categorizing the people I hear on XBL as such somehow contradicts my assertion that I'm normally thick-skinned. I assert such because I very rarely respond to even the most putrid-spewing player I come across, and even more rarely let what they say bother me. It's just its sheer prevalence that eventually wears me down, and even then I very rarely confront them.

[AnticorRifling]

I still haven't seen an example of "putrid-spewing player" maybe because I'm thick skinned. You, on the other hand, are getting ass hurt over words from strangers in a video game. Gratz on that "thick skin" I'm guessing it doesn't mean what you think it does.

[Ashliana]

I still haven't seen an example of "putrid-spewing player" maybe because I'm thick skinned. You, on the other hand, are getting ass hurt over words from strangers in a video game. Gratz on that "thick skin" I'm guessing it doesn't mean what you think it does.

There's a significant difference between "not being bothered by something said because it doesn't apply to you" and being thick-skinned.

If you're a white person, you're probably significantly less bothered by repeatedly hearing "fucking porch-monkey niggers" on XBL than a black person would be, and similarly, a straight person would probably less bothered by the anti-gay slurs flung around in nearly every match in MW2.

From what I've seen, constantly using anti-gay slurs as a replacement for the word "bad" or "lame" is more a sign of low intelligence or poor education than significant anti-gay biggotry; the overwhelming majority of it doesn't even phase me; simply recognizing the fact that it's so prevalent does not make me "butt hurt." When I'm getting into constant arguments with people over a quick, idiotic comment or filing complaints with Microsoft, then I'd acknowledge a dispute over my saying I'm pretty thick-skinned.

[Methais]

There's a significant difference between "not being bothered by something said because it doesn't apply to you" and being thick-skinned.

If you're a white person, you're probably significantly less bothered by repeatedly hearing "fucking porch-monkey niggers" on XBL than a black person would be, and similarly, a straight person would probably less bothered by the anti-gay slurs flung around in nearly every match in MW2.

From what I've seen, constantly using anti-gay slurs as a replacement for the word "bad" or "lame" is more a sign of low intelligence or poor education than significant anti-gay biggotry; the overwhelming majority of it doesn't even phase me; simply recognizing the fact that it's so prevalent does not make me "butt hurt." When I'm getting into constant arguments with people over a quick, idiotic comment or filing complaints with Microsoft, then I'd acknowledge a dispute over my saying I'm pretty thick-skinned.

From what I've seen, constantly using anti-unhappy words as a replacement for the word(s) "I like to ram my dong in other guys' goatseholes" or "homosexual" is more a sign of significant anti-unhappy word-hijackery.

EDIT: Also relevant to your post:
http://images.hugi.is/kvikmyndir/125118.jpg

[AnticorRifling]

There isn't a significant difference, you're trying to create one so you can be a snowflake.

Now you're saying it's an education/intelligence issue and not anti-gay biggotry or whatever. Before it was pervasive homophobic phrases blah blah blah. It is whatever you want it to be to suit your needs right now.

You keep throwing things out like igorant, poor education, etc as your insult towards people that use a word you find offensive. I think it's funny. Good luck on being that snowflake, you'll get there.

[Ashliana]

There isn't a significant difference, you're trying to create one so you can be a snowflake.

Now you're saying it's an education/intelligence issue and not anti-gay biggotry or whatever. Before it was pervasive homophobic phrases blah blah blah. It is whatever you want it to be to suit your needs right now.

You keep throwing things out like igorant, poor education, etc as your insult towards people that use a word you find offensive. I think it's funny. Good luck on being that snowflake, you'll get there.

..What? Seriously, you can't possibly be incapable of following what I've said. There is most definitely a difference between not being bothered by an anti-gay remark or anti-black remark simply because it doesn't apply to you, and simply "being thick-skinned."

Many people tolerate anti-gay sentiment, even without partaking of it themselves, as a matter of course because it's so common. Just like people accepted what are now considered vile anti-black comments in the past without so much as lifting an eyebrow, even if they weren't racist themselves. Because it's very prevalent, not because they happen to be "thick-skinned."

How exactly does my claiming such equate to "wanting to be a snowflake"? Seriously, you're bordering on Parkbandit-in-a-bad-mood level retardation right now.

[AnticorRifling]

Oh shit you're calling me names now. How dare you?! Good thing I've got thick skin.

QQ it up princess.

If you can't follow what I'm saying I'm sorry, it's probably a gay bash since you don't get it/like it. I mean that's the best way to deal with it, claim it's something that IS AGAINST YOU ZOMG AHHHH.

[Methais]

You know what else used to be considered vile that doesn't get so much as an eyebrow workout these days? Showing a little ankle.

BTW no dedicated servers is fucking gay.

[AnticorRifling]

You know what else used to be considered vile that doesn't get so much as an eyebrow workout these days? Showing a little ankle.

BTW no dedicated servers is fucking gay.
Don't you mean it's fucking breeders?!

[Methais]

Don't you mean it's fucking breeders?!

No, because gays can't breed.

What I mean is that the lack of dedicated servers likes to insert its wang into other lackings of dedicated servers.

[Ashliana]

Now you're saying it's an education/intelligence issue and not anti-gay biggotry or whatever. Before it was pervasive homophobic phrases blah blah blah. It is whatever you want it to be to suit your needs right now.

Homophobic language is extremely pervasive in our youth's culture. It's became so common, so prevalent that people don't even necessarily associate the word "gay" used as a pejorative with an actual gay person. South Park recently (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_F_Word_%28South_Park%29) had an episode dealing with that very issue.

That's precisely the reason it doesn't even phase me when someone casually uses the word "gay" to mean "stupid," even though I do think that's a result of general ignorance. However, it's much more than that when, say, every match you enter in MW2 has someone railing against someone/something using every anti-gay slur that exists, specifically choosing them.

Simply recognizing how common it is, and that the fact that it is common is disheartening, has nothing to do with how thick-skinned a person is, nor does it have anything to do with "wanting to be a snowflake."


Oh shit you're calling me names now. How dare you?! Good thing I've got thick skin.

QQ it up princess.

If you can't follow what I'm saying I'm sorry, it's probably a gay bash since you don't get it/like it. I mean that's the best way to deal with it, claim it's something that IS AGAINST YOU ZOMG AHHHH.

:rofl:

[Celephais]

... but it's really wearing on you to hear in virtually every match.
You're not thick skinned.

There's a significant difference between "not being bothered by something said because it doesn't apply to you" and being thick-skinned.
.. what? No. Think skin applies directly to insults directed at you, regardless of truth. You seem to think that you can maintain that you have a thick skin because it's something you actually are. That's false. Having a thick skin means it doesn't matter what anyone says about you, it won't bother you. Everything about what you've posted here says you do not have thick skin.


From what I've seen, constantly using anti-gay slurs as a replacement for the word "bad" or "lame" is more a sign of low intelligence or poor education
You're aware that "lame" is a term for a cripple, and you are exhibiting a lack of intelligence when you use it that way?

[Methais]

That's precisely the reason it doesn't even phase me when someone casually uses the word "gay" to mean "stupid," even though I do think that's a result of general ignorance.

Is that the same type of ignorance that's displayed after singing "Deck the Halls", when some little kids asks why the apparel you just donned is living an alternative lifestyle?

[ElvenFury]

That's precisely the reason it doesn't even phase me when someone casually uses the word "gay" to mean "stupid," even though I do think that's a result of general ignorance. However, it's much more than that when, say, every match you enter in MW2 has someone railing against someone/something using every anti-gay slur that exists, specifically choosing them.

Successful trolls sound very successful.


Simply recognizing how common it is, and that the fact that it is common is disheartening, has nothing to do with how thick-skinned a person is, nor does it have anything to do with "wanting to be a snowflake."

It has everything to do with how "disheartened" you get. That's the point of a "thick skin"; that you don't let things get you down.

[Celephais]

... how thick-skinned a person is, nor does it have anything to do with "wanting to be a snowflake."
You have no idea what he meant when he said "wanting to be a snowflake", do you?

[AnticorRifling]

I'm going to say probably not.

Also the bad or lame reference also referring to holy crip it's a crapple was spot fucking on.

[Drew]

Ashliana needs to unlock the thick skinned perk (you can't unlock it before level 10, to unlock you need to hear 'gaywad' on XBL 5 times without complaining to the internet forum of your choice).

[Ashliana]

You're not thick skinned.

Okay. I'll repeat, however: I disagree, and you don't know me personally. Do you know what I mean by "wearing"? Hm.. You're entitled to your opinion, even if I think it's baseless.


.. what? No. Think skin applies directly to insults directed at you, regardless of truth. You seem to think that you can maintain that you have a thick skin because it's something you actually are. That's false. Having a thick skin means it doesn't matter what anyone says about you, it won't bother you. Everything about what you've posted here says you do not have thick skin.

I don't think so. An insult has different meaning depending on how fitting/hard-hitting/etc it is to the person. Calling a black person a "porch-monkey nigger" is much more likely to cause a stronger emotional response than calling a white person the same name. That is not because the black person has a "thinner skin." It's because the insult specifically relates to the black person, and not the white person.

Having a thick or skin or not is not a "yes, they have one" or "no, they do not" quality. Every person is able to brush off a different level of personal wronging. I'd say that mine is higher than most, regardless of whether or not you think my discussing my viewpoint here lends you the ability to judge it as thin or thick.


You're aware that "lame" is a term for a cripple, and you are exhibiting a lack of intelligence when you use it that way?

That is an interesting point; most of the insults involving intelligence, for example, evolved from more technical, scientific terms. Idiot, imbecile, moron, etc, all described varying levels of mental retardation. People, for whatever reason, want to call people the contemporary version of the word for mentally handicapped, and we see the same thing happening today with "retarded," leading to even more words like "mentally challenged."

I don't think advocates for the handicapped would be offended either by the use of "idiot," "moron," or "lame" as insensitive or hateful, while they indeed might reflect some level of technical ignorance; I know first-hand that many gay people are indeed bothered by how prevalent anti-gay language has become, and another importance being that actual homophobia and general anti-gay biggotry are also extremely common, and it's sometimes very difficult for an outside-the-conversation listener to distinguish the two. If it was just the word "gay" being thrown around lightly, I don't think it would bother (the majority) of gay people. It's that they're all used in tandem, with significant malice in their voices, and still very frequently, specifically, against gay people.



It has everything to do with how "disheartened" you get. That's the point of a "thick skin"; that you don't let things get you down.

And as I already stated, the overwhelming majority of it doesn't even phase me; simply the fact that it is so common and universal is disheartening, I don't think is a measure of having a thick or skin or not, especially if it doesn't provoke a response.

[ElvenFury]

I don't think advocates for the handicapped would be offended either by the use of "idiot," "moron," or "lame" as insensitive or hateful, while they indeed might reflect some level of ignorance or full-knowing

Kudos to them for having a thick skin.

[AnticorRifling]

And as I already stated, the overwhelming majority of it doesn't even phase me; simply the fact that it is so common and universal is disheartening, I don't think is a measure of having a thick or skin or not, especially if it doesn't provoke a response.
But it is provoking a response, if it wasn't I wouldn't be lol'ing at you in this thread.

Go to Home Depot, get some lumber, build a bridge and get over yourself.

[Ashliana]

Kudos to them for having a thick skin.

.. Or kudos to them themselves for not knowing the original meaning. I seriously doubt the majority of people know the histories of the word "moron," "imbecile" and so forth in the original meanings, whereas every person should reasonably understand what exactly being called "a homo" or "faggot" means. They may, over time, devolve into bland, general meanings, but their primary meaning is still revolving around homosexuality, and not whatever colloquial sense they're being used in tandem along with sincere anti-gay hostility.

[Celephais]

Having a thick or skin or not is not a "yes, they have one" or "no, they do not" quality.
Okay, then you do not have "pretty thick skin". Pretty thick skin is realizing that the opinions of people you have no personal attachment to should have zero influence on you, no matter how accurate or hateful or dead on the insult may be.


I don't think advocates for the handicapped would be offended either by the use of "idiot," "moron," or "lame" as insensitive or hateful

I'm going to say you're absolutely wrong here, and you have blinders because you have a "cause" and you seem to think your cause is more important than anyone elses. You honestly think you put up with more crap than someone who is mentally challenged? You don't think they're fighting a harder battle than you? Any insult is by definition offensive, any name calling is going to be offensive to the party that the name originates from (oh, you forgot "dumb"), it's just that gays seem to be particuarly sensitive to having their names used in this manner. This might have something to do with the fact that given the choice most gays would say they would like to stay as such, while most deaf individuals wouldn't mind being able to hear.


And as I already stated, the overwhelming majority of it doesn't even phase me; simply the fact that it is so common and universal is disheartening, I don't think is a measure of having a thick or skin or not, especially if it doesn't provoke a response.
... you're responding right now!

[Ashliana]

But it is provoking a response, if it wasn't I wouldn't be lol'ing at you in this thread.

Go to Home Depot, get some lumber, build a bridge and get over yourself.

I already stated above.. I don't see how simply responding to you in a thread discussing opinions equates to having a thin skin. I'm interested in other people's opinions, even when I disagree; And no, if you didn't mean snowflake as in "a unique little snowflake," then I don't know what you meant. I've never heard "snowflake" used to mean anything other than it's literal meaning or in the sense of being unique.

[ElvenFury]

A faggot is a pile of sticks. Gay means happy. Homo roughly means "The same". Lesbians refers to the citizens of the Island, Lesbos. Get your own fucking words, then we can talk about how you want to protect them.

[Celephais]

.. reasonably understand what exactly being called "a homo" or "faggot" means.
I can't believe you referenced the south park episode and then imply that the original meaning of faggot is homosexual.

[Methais]

If you're a white person, you're probably significantly less bothered by repeatedly hearing "fucking porch-monkey niggers" on XBL than a black person would be, and similarly, a straight person would probably less bothered by the anti-gay slurs flung around in nearly every match in MW2.

If the black guy had thick skin, he wouldn't be bothered at all.


I don't think advocates for the handicapped would be offended either by the use of "idiot," "moron," or "lame" as insensitive or hateful, while they indeed might reflect some level of technical ignorance;

The fact that so many people use the word "retarded" as a derogatory term is disheartening, when there are real retards out there being retarded for real.

Example:

Funny article. I'm usually pretty thick-skinned when it comes to the pervasive homophobia on XBL, but MW2 is even worse than Halo 3--which was the worst I'd ever seen. The more popular, more "mainstream" a game, the more you get the retarded fourteen-year-olds and college dropouts.

[AnticorRifling]

.. Or kudos to them themselves for not knowing the original meaning. I seriously doubt the majority of people know the histories of the word "moron," "imbecile" and so forth in the original meanings, whereas every person should reasonably understand what exactly being called "a homo" or "faggot" means. They may, over time, devolve into bland, general meanings, but their primary meaning is still revolving around homosexuality, and not whatever colloquial sense they're being used in tandem along with sincere anti-gay hostility.
Yeah that makes sense, no chance anyone but you could know the history behind moron or imbecile. But faggot I mean golly who doesn't want a bundle of sticks! Oh wait that would be uneducated in my assumption of the origin and history of a word, my bust.

[AnticorRifling]

Obviously since I'm a straight white male I'm offended by all of this since clearly it's all my fault because I am the root of everyone's problems no matter what because I'm right there to be the bad guy. I was born back when everything happened during the history of everything so it's cool. Rage on (insert whoever has a chapped ass over something here).

[Methais]

whereas every person should reasonably understand what exactly being called "a homo" or "faggot" means.

Except you apparently.

[Ashliana]

Okay, then you do not have "pretty thick skin". Pretty thick skin is realizing that the opinions of people you have no personal attachment to should have zero influence on you, no matter how accurate or hateful or dead on the insult may be.

And your opinion, caused again by either the fact that you really don't know me, and that we're not talking about the same thing. There is a combined pervasive use of actual anti-gay hostility towards gay people in general, as well as the equally pervasive, more casual use of anti-gay slurs as pejoratives.

When someone mentions, say, a famous gay person, and someone else remarks, "fucking faggots, they should all burn in hell," what exactly is a "thick-skinned" response in your book? Similarly, what is the "thick-skinned" response to "golf is gay!" or "Michael Phelps is a fag!" I'm betting that I react in the way you'd claim is thick-skinned, so unless you're taking the fact that I'm apparently willing to discuss the pervasive use of homophobic language as "indisputable proof of being thin-skinned," it's not really something you can tell me whether or not I am without knowing me.


I'm going to say you're absolutely wrong here, and you have blinders because you have a "cause" and you seem to think your cause is more important than anyone elses. You honestly think you put up with more crap than someone who is mentally challenged? You don't think they're fighting a harder battle than you? Any insult is by definition offensive, any name calling is going to be offensive to the party that the name originates from (oh, you forgot "dumb"), it's just that gays seem to be particuarly sensitive to having their names used in this manner. This might have something to do with the fact that given the choice most gays would say they would like to stay as such, while most deaf individuals wouldn't mind being able to hear.

I'm perfectly willing to consider the possibility that it simply doesn't bother me, whereas it does bother the parents/families/friends/the disabled themselves. In my experience, however, that hasn't been the case. My mother's sister has two disabled children that I helped take care of in college, went with her to support meetings, and I've seen her become very irritated by the use of the word "retard," but not any of the other words which had archaic but similar meanings. Similarly, I've never seen any (or even heard of any) other people bothered by the archaic meanings of any of the words you or I mentioned, whereas I've seen countless people bothered by homophobic language, especially since both meanings (behind some of the words) are contemporary.



... you're responding right now!

Again.. we're not talking about the same thing. Provoking a response as in when confronted with homophobia--especially casual homophobia. Simply discussing the issue intellectually here is not "being provoked into a response by having a thick-skinned." That really isn't a complicated distinction. Like I said, if I was confronting people for casual comments or even blatant anti-gay bigotry when I encounter it, I'd accept your disagreement.

[Parkbandit]

Think what you will. The reality, however, is that you know next to nothing about me outside of a random Internet forum.

You do realize you illustrated how thin skinned you are.. in the very thread you claim to be thick skinned.. right?

Thanks for the hilarity though... you are so easily triggered into these entertaining threads. (Psst: It's because of your paper thin skin btw)

Edited to add: In before the bold, links, italics and underline rage.

[AnticorRifling]

... Simply discussing the issue intellectually here ... But you're not. You're so blinded by your butt hurt that you won't stop and think "Shit maybe I was wrong, I am thin skinned, proof is in the pudding and it tastes like a loss."

[Ashliana]

A faggot is a pile of sticks. Gay means happy. Homo roughly means "The same". Lesbians refers to the citizens of the Island, Lesbos. Get your own fucking words, then we can talk about how you want to protect them.


I can't believe you referenced the south park episode and then imply that the original meaning of faggot is homosexual.

Congratulations. I can't believe you (and ElvenFury) somehow gathered that I ever stated the original meaning of "faggot" was homosexual. Its contemporary meaning, a derogatory word for homosexual, is the one that obviously created the impact, and it's the meaning people mean when they use the word today.

So what? South Park ALSO pointed out that while the meaning of the word "gay" or "fag" is in the process of changing to mean something that has nothing to do with homosexuality, the actual homosexuals in the show were clearly bothered by it, and the words are also used in their contemporary meaning to insult homosexuals at the same time, highlighting the clear difference between now using words that had possibly offensive, archaic meanings. "Gay" in its homosexual sense is a long way from being an archaic meaning; it's very much contemporary.


The fact that so many people use the word "retarded" as a derogatory term is disheartening, when there are real retards out there being retarded for real.

Yep. I used "retarded" in its colloquial sense. You're fully entitled to think whatever you want of me. See how that works? Feel free to label me whatever you like.

[Parkbandit]

And the bolding of text ensues.

Good thing you are thick skinned.

[pabstblueribbon]

BF3 is going to totally fucking OWN this game. Dedicated servers and have you seen how destructable everything is going to be? Sniper in a building? Blow up the building! BF2 introduced squads, BF3 will introduce batallions which allows multiple squads to pair up and communicate with the commander AND eachother.

It uses the new Frostbite graphics engine that was used in Bad Company 2. It pwns.

BF 2142 sucked outloud, but I'm really excited for BF3.

Fuck CoD.

[Ashliana]

You do realize you illustrated how thin skinned you are.. in the very thread you claim to be thick skinned.. right?

Thanks for the hilarity though... you are so easily triggered into these entertaining threads. (Psst: It's because of your paper thin skin btw)

Edited to add: In before the bold, links, italics and underline rage.


But you're not. You're so blinded by your butt hurt that you won't stop and think "Shit maybe I was wrong, I am thin skinned, proof is in the pudding and it tastes like a loss."

Simply discussing my position here isn't being butt-hurt. I still don't think I'm thin-skinned, and nor do I think discussing my perspective equates to being such. We clearly disagree with each other. .. And?

:rofl:

[Ashliana]

And the bolding of text ensues.

Good thing you are thick skinned.

Ooh, you're right. Using bold indicates I'm upset and foaming at the mouth, right? Good thing you're here to define the use of italics/bold/etc for everyone. Otherwise, who knows what people would think?

[Celephais]

Congratulations. I can't believe you (and ElvenFury) somehow gathered that I ever stated the original meaning of "faggot" was homosexual.
Nice try with the backpeddling but:

every person should reasonably understand what exactly being called "a homo" or "faggot" means.
Is what I addressed, and no, not every person reasonably understands what those words mean. Infact I can't tell you what the words mean without context. Which in a living language like ours is true of all words. I can tell you what they should mean, and I can tell you what they often mean, but that doesn't prove your point at all.

You're backpeddling, and it's looking pretty sad.

[Parkbandit]

Simply discussing my position here isn't being butt-hurt. I still don't think I'm thin-skinned, and nor do I think discussing my perspective equates to being such. We clearly disagree with each other. .. And?

:rofl:

Are you serious?

Read this thread alone for proof you are almost lacking any skin. If you can't figure it out by this, then visit any one of a hundred political threads where you've gone batshit insane.

[Ashliana]

Nice try with the backpeddling but:

Is what I addressed, and no, not every person reasonably understands what those words mean. Infact I can't tell you what the words mean without context. Which in a living language like ours is true of all words. I can tell you what they should mean, and I can tell you what they often mean, but that doesn't prove your point at all.

You're backpeddling, and it's looking pretty sad.

Again, it's not backpedalling. It's your apparent inability to actually understand English.

What I said, and you quoted:

every person should reasonably understand what exactly being called "a homo" or "faggot" means.

I stand by that statement, 100%. I am not backpedaling. Ask a person what they infer from being called a "fucking faggot" or homo, and their first thought will not be to jump to any archaic meanings. They're called contemporary meanings for a reason.

[Parkbandit]

Ooh, you're right. Using bold indicates I'm upset and foaming at the mouth, right? Good thing you're here to define the use of italics/bold/etc for everyone. Otherwise, who knows what people would think?

In your case, you use it for emphasis.. generally when you are butt sore about being wrong about something.. but you've dug your high heels in and you are not backing down.

I knew it was on it's way.. which is why I posted that edit.

[pabstblueribbon]

Stop being such a thread derailing faggot Ashliana.

So gay.

[ElvenFury]

When someone mentions, say, a famous gay person, and someone else remarks, "fucking faggots, they should all burn in hell," what exactly is a "thick-skinned" response in your book? Similarly, what is the "thick-skinned" response to "golf is gay!" or "Michael Phelps is a fag!" I'm betting that I react in the way you'd claim is thick-skinned

I think you're confused on the meaning of thick-skinned. It's not just about not reacting, or not showing/voicing your feelings, it's about not letting things affect your feelings to begin with. It's about true emotional toughness, not a good poker face.

[Ashliana]

Are you serious?

Read this thread alone for proof you are almost lacking any skin. If you can't figure it out by this, then visit any one of a hundred political threads where you've gone batshit insane.

Things do tend to get more chaotic when there are fifteen people responding to a single one, and my personal preference is to try and respond to everyone (the purpose of a forum being discussion, and all), but again, I've repeated my disagreement that simply engaging in a discussion on the pervasive use of homophobia equates to having a thin skin. You're free to disagree; we're clearly not going to come to any consensus.

[Ashliana]

I think you're confused on the meaning of thick-skinned. It's not just about not reacting, or not showing/voicing your feelings, it's about not letting things affect your feelings to begin with. It's about true emotional toughness, not a good poker face.

And as I stated pages ago now, the overwhelming majority of stuff doesn't even phase me, and I bet in virtually all circumstances, the way you yourself would perceive to be "thick-skinned" is the way I essentially always respond to encountering homophobia/homophobic language. You may take the fact that I mentioned it here as "proof of a thin skin." I disagree. Not sure what more you're looking for, honestly.

[Parkbandit]

Things do tend to get more chaotic when there are fifteen people responding to a single one, and my personal preference is to try and respond to everyone (the purpose of a forum being discussion, and all), but again, I've repeated my disagreement that simply engaging in a discussion on the pervasive use of homophobia equates to having a thin skin. You're free to disagree; we're clearly not going to come to any consensus.

Pretty sure there is a general consensus.. basically everyone but you believes you to be thin skinned.

Jesus Christ.. if you can't be honest and open about something as obvious as this, then there is little hope for you.

[Ashliana]

Pretty sure there is a general consensus.. basically everyone but you believes you to be thin skinned.

Jesus Christ.. if you can't be honest and open about something as obvious as this, then there is little hope for you.

:rofl:

Remember what someone above mentioned about not caring about what people that don't actually know you, think? That's this in action. :D

I don't care what you think of me personally (especially you, PB), especially considering you don't know me beyond a random forum. However, I am still interested in discussing my positions; even if the majority of you would rather discuss me, personally. We can talk about whatever you want, as the will of many dictates the flow of the conversation, clearly not me.

[Celephais]

Again, it's not backpedalling. It's your apparent inability to actually understand English.

What I said, and you quoted:


I stand by that statement, 100%. I am not backpedaling. Ask a person what they infer from being called a "fucking faggot" or homo, and their first thought will not be to jump to any archaic meanings. They're called contemporary meanings for a reason.
uh... your use of the words whereas and exactly contradict you. If I called you a fucking dumbass, the exact meaning would be a deaf donkey used for sex. That's not the first thing I would think of though (well, wasn't, it is now).

Lets give you a little more context so you can backpeddle some more:

.. Or kudos to them themselves for not knowing the original meaning. I seriously doubt the majority of people know the histories of the word "moron," "imbecile" and so forth in the original meanings, whereas every person should reasonably understand what exactly being called "a homo" or "faggot" means. They may, over time, devolve into bland, general meanings, but their primary meaning is still revolving around homosexuality, and not whatever colloquial sense they're being used in tandem along with sincere anti-gay hostility.

[Parkbandit]

:rofl:

Remember what someone above mentioned about not caring about what people that don't actually know you, think? That's this in action. :D

I don't care what you think of me personally (especially you, PB), especially considering you don't know me beyond a random forum. However, I am still interested in discussing my positions; even if the majority of you would rather discuss me, personally. We can talk about whatever you want, as the will of many dictates the flow of the conversation, clearly not me.

Knowing you on an internet forum is precisely how I know you to be:

1) Gay.

2) Girl trapped in a hairy man's body.

and

C) Having skin so thin it's transparent.

[Ashliana]

uh... your use of the words whereas and exactly contradict you. If I called you a fucking dumbass, the exact meaning would be a deaf donkey used for sex. That's not the first thing I would think of though (well, wasn't, it is now).

Lets give you a little more context so you can backpeddle some more:

No, they don't. If you called me a "fucking dumbass," a reasonable interpretation would be "a really, really stupid person," not its archaic meaning. Contemporary meanings are just that--because that's how they're interpreted in the present. You say "the exact meaning" would be a donkey(etc). Er, how have you decided this? The primary meaning of words listed in dictionaries is their contemporary meaning, not their etymological reason. Also, "dumbass" does not equal the old word for just plain "ass," being a donkey.

I'm not backpedaling; you're just being remarkably obtuse.

I said:

1) I don't think advocates/relates of the disabled/etc are bothered by the use of words with long-since-archaic possible insulting meanings like "imbecile."
2) ElvenFury implied it's because "they have a thick skin."

To this, I disagree. The fact that they're not bothered by those words is because there the original meaning that WOULD have been insulting is so long-since archaic, and they possibly don't even know the etymological meaning. Not because they're "thick skinned."

The key difference is that one can reasonably infer that when someone uses the word "moron," they're not talking about a long-since archaic meaning about a level of retardation--they're talking about a stupid person. When someone says "fucking faggots," one can not reasonably infer that they're not slighting homosexuals as a group, or that person for being a homosexual.

I'm not backpedaling in the slightest. Sorry.

[pabstblueribbon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJsLKqYctW4&feature=related

Bad Company 2 but, shows the engine BF3 will use.. destructable everything.. nomnom.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0CqEOtOS6Q&feature=related

Instead of automatic UAV showing enemy positions I take it you actually have to manually control the UAV as the commander now and use your eyes to spot the targets.

[Parkbandit]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJsLKqYctW4&feature=related

Bad Company 2 but, shows the engine BF3 will use.. destructable everything.. nomnom.

Damn, that looks sweet.

I hope no fags play it.

[Parkbandit]

If it takes you 16 posts in 2 hours to illustrate how thick skinned you are... you might be going about it the wrong way.

Just saying.

[Ashliana]

If it takes you 16 posts in 2 hours to illustrate how thick skinned you are... you might be going about it the wrong way.

Just saying.

And why is it you feel the need to go out of your way to reiterate your assertion that participating in a discussion makes you thin-skinned? I already told you: I accept that that's your opinion. I disagree with it. Anything else to talk about? Or would you like to just post that again another fifteen hundred times, as is your usual strategy?

[Celephais]

No, they don't. If you called me a "fucking dumbass," a reasonable interpretation would be "a really, really stupid person," not its archaic meaning. Contemporary meanings are just that--because that's how they're interpreted in the present.
And if I called lag on a server gay, the contemporary meaning of what I said is an expression of frustration with lag... no clue why you should be offended by that.


I'm not backpedaling; you're just being remarkably obtuse.

I said:

1) I don't think advocates/relates of the disabled/etc are bothered by the use of words with long-since-archaic possible insulting meanings like "imbecile."
2) ElvenFury implied it's because "they have a thick skin."

To this, I disagree. The fact that they're not bothered by those words is because there the original meaning that WOULD have been insulting is so long-since archaic, and they possibly don't even know the etymological meaning. Not because they're "thick skinned."

[quote]The key difference is that one can reasonably infer that when someone uses the word "moron," they're not talking about a long-since archaic meaning about a level of retardation--they're talking about a stupid person.
WOW... wow... really? So you're not seeing the similarity there... let me expand on that a bit in the response to this gem

When someone says "fucking faggots," one can not reasonably infer that they're necessarily not slighting homosexuals as a group, or that person for being a homosexual.
That's not always true though, again context. I'll agree with you that if someone's response to bringing up Elton John is "fucking faggot", they are being literal. If my friend orders a cosmopolitan at the bar and I call him a "fucking faggot", I'm not actually calling him gay, I'm using a stereotype associated with homosexuals as an insult. Guess what you're doing when you call someone a moron, you're using a stereotype associated with mentally challenged individuals as an insult.

[AnticorRifling]

Damnit I'm supposed to be writing training documents for this client quit distracting me!!!

[Ashliana]

And if I called lag on a server gay, the contemporary meaning of what I said is an expression of frustration with lag... no clue why you should be offended by that.

Except that the meaning of "gay" as being "homosexual" is not yet archaic, so it's not reasonable to infer that when someone says "gay" they never mean "homosexual." The term is still politically and socially charged to a significant number of people, whereas "idiot" and "moron" are not. You seriously don't understand that distinction?


WOW... wow... really? So you're not seeing the similarity there... let me expand on that a bit in the response to this gem

That's not always true though, again context. I'll agree with you that if someone's response to bringing up Elton John is "fucking faggot", they are being literal. If my friend orders a cosmopolitan at the bar and I call him a "fucking faggot", I'm not actually calling him gay, I'm using a stereotype associated with homosexuals as an insult. Guess what you're doing when you call someone a moron, you're using a stereotype associated with mentally challenged individuals as an insult.

Again, you're comparing apples to oranges--you're comparing the use of the word "fucking faggot," whose primary/contemporary meaning is *still* "a derogatory word for a homosexual" and an ARCHAIC meaning of "moron," the contemporary meaning of which has *nothing* to do with the mentally handicapped.

[Methais]

You're fully entitled to think whatever you want of me. See how that works? Feel free to label me whatever you like.

Fag.

[ElvenFury]

Except that the meaning of "gay" as being "homosexual" is not yet archaic, so it's not reasonable to infer that when someone says "gay" they never mean "homosexual."

Gay still meant "happy" when guys who liked penis stole it for themselves.

ETA: This was my point before, when I listed all the gay words. People still live on Lesbos, you know.

[Celephais]

Except that the meaning of "gay" as being "homosexual" is not yet archaic, so it's not reasonable to infer that when someone says "gay" they never mean "homosexual." The term is still politically and socially charged to a significant number of people, whereas "idiot" and "moron" are not. You seriously don't understand that distinction?



Again, you're comparing apples to oranges--you're comparing the use of the word "fucking faggot," whose primary/contemporary meaning is *still* "a derogatory word for a homosexual" and an ARCHAIC meaning of "moron," the contemporary meaning of which has *nothing* to do with the mentally handicapped.
I think the answer is you need to stop being a pussy (OH SHIT, do I mean vagina? That's not archaic!!?!) and realize words have multiple meanings. Just because one of those meanings happens to be something that gets you all riled up doesn't mean people have to stop using it for the other meanings.

Edit to add, just so you know, calling someone a faggot as an insult instead of refering to their sexuality, only gained popularity because of the reaction people like you have to it, it just added vitrol to the insult.

Also: http://moviechopshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/pcuSPLASH.jpg

[Ashliana]

I think the answer is you need to stop being a pussy (OH SHIT, do I mean vagina? That's not archaic!!?!) and realize words have multiple meanings. Just because one of those meanings happens to be something that gets you all riled up doesn't mean people have to stop using it for the other meanings.

Again, you're equating the word "gay" which has both contemporary meanings meaning homosexual and stupid, (the primary being homosexual) with "moron," which has only ONE contemporarily understood meaning, being a stupid person. Apples and oranges. Similarly, "pussy" enjoys contemporary meaning with both a vagina, and a pushover/bitch/however you want to define it. Archaic meanings are rarely, if ever, used. Otherwise they wouldn't be archaic.

[pabstblueribbon]

Blah blah my feelings blah blah blah blah blah I'm so upset that people use the words gay and faggot in a negative connotation blah blah blah blah

Shhhh already. Shouldn't you be dusting that My Little Pony collection?

[Celephais]

I recommend you stop being such a faggot.
http://www.hotflick.net/flicks/2003_Old_School/003OSC_Stuart_Cornfeld_001.jpg

[Ashliana]

Edit to add, just so you know, calling someone a faggot as an insult instead of refering to their sexuality, only gained popularity because of the reaction people like you have to it, it just added vitrol to the insult.

Edit. Scratch that. I'd actually say people started using things like "faggot" to describe sexuality, as a means of conveying their contempt for the group. Whether or not it was later hijacked for a different purpose is irrelevant; that hasn't happened yet. It's getting there, with the word "gay," but definitely not with the other words in nearly the same degree.

[pabstblueribbon]

DAMNIT IM HERE TO TALK ABOUT SIMULATED WAR NOT FEELINGS AND GAYNESS. CHRIST!

SEBLANTICS!

[Methais]

Do Brits still refer to cigarettes as fags?

Also:
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a162/DoyleHargraves/Clipboard01-32.jpg
(Not to be confused with cornhole. Fags.)

[Durgrimst]

I suck so bad at this online, but if anyone plays on PS3 you can add me...

spdracer152

[Geshron]

same, I'm TreeIsLegend on ps3. Where's the gs4 clan? And no, I am not reading back through 13 pages to find out!

[Methais]

Where's the gs4 clan?

On the PC dedicated servers.

[Drew]

On the xbox.

[Paradii]

Did some one gay up this thread? It's like 13 pages now and I don't feel like reading it all.

[Sean of the Thread]

Did some one gay up this thread? It's like 13 pages now and I don't feel like reading it all.


Meth gayed it up with lemon party.

[Alfster]

Stop fagging up this forum. Truth be told. Article = true.

[Paradii]

I don't know how it is on ps3 or the pc, but multiplayer has gotten to a point where it's just bullshit and not fun anymore. And it's not just because I suck balls. I've sucked this entire time and enjoyed myself.

Every game I join now is full of people using the duel shotguns, people doing the javelin glitch, or the care package speed glitch who just stab everyone from 20 yards away.

Until they start banning these faggots and patch the fact the using shotguns akimbo is absolutely redic. I am done.

/rant


Your feelings on the subject?

[Drew]

Javelin glitch blows so many balls, the people abusing it are ruining games left and right. I could do without the 1887 shotguns akimbo but it won't ruin my experience if they leave them in. I've heard about the care package bug, but don't think I've seen it yet. Also if they could fix that rock in Afghanistan that you can hop into and shoot out of but no one can shoot in that'd be ideal.

[Paradii]

Javelin glitch blows so many balls, the people abusing it are ruining games left and right. I could do without the 1887 shotguns akimbo but it won't ruin my experience if they leave them in. I've heard about the care package bug, but don't think I've seen it yet. Also if they could fix that rock in Afghanistan that you can hop into and shoot out of but no one can shoot in that'd be ideal.


They are banning people from xbox live for the javelin glitch. You can tweet a few people from microsoft the username of the people doing the glitching and they will take care of it. I can't see this happening on the PC or ps3, of course.

Edit: the care package thing is just retardedly annoying. My brother, a buddy, and myself were doing domination on scrapyard, and the entire other team was a "clan" doing the care package/lightweight/marathon/tactical knife thing. Le sigh....

[Methais]

What's the javelin glitch?

[Paradii]

What's the javelin glitch?


basically, you prime a sticky grenade and switch to the javelin. And as long as you don't climb over anything, when someone kills you, the javelin fires and kills that person and who ever is near him.

It's a game killer.

[Khariz]

basically, you prime a sticky grenade and switch to the javelin. And as long as you don't climb over anything, when someone kills you, the javelin fires and kills that person and who ever is near him.

It's a game killer.

They patched it out in the most recent patch.

[Paradii]

They patched it out in the most recent patch.


When did this patch come out?

[Methais]

Your feelings on the subject?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgn2jugK_Hk

[Paradii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgn2jugK_Hk


That was a personal video, I don't know how it got uploaded!

[Khariz]

When did this patch come out?

Couple days ago. It's when the game version went from .169 to .172

I'm talking about PC BTW, in case I missed it and you guys are talking about some gay console version.

[Paradii]

Couple days ago. It's when the game version went from .169 to .172

I'm talking about PC BTW, in case I missed it and you guys are talking about some gay console version.


We are talking about some gay console version.

[ElvenFury]

I got this game this weekend, and god how do I suck at it. If the shit ever hits the fan like this IRL, and I get drafted, god help the poor SOB next to me. Granted, he'll only have to put up with me for about twenty seconds before I go charging out into the open – flailing my arms like a little girl, because I have no fucking clue what's going on – and my pansy-ass body is ruthlessly pumped full of hot lead. I don't think I could possibly suck at this game any more.

It's still fun, though.

[Drew]

I got this game this weekend, and god how do I suck at it. If the shit ever hits the fan like this IRL, and I get drafted, god help the poor SOB next to me. Granted, he'll only have to put up with me for about twenty seconds before I go charging out into the open – flailing my arms like a little girl, because I have no fucking clue what's going on – and my pansy-ass body is ruthlessly pumped full of hot lead. I don't think I could possibly suck at this game any more.

It's still fun, though.


You're bound to suck if you're playing online now, everyone has such a huge head start on gear and equipment.

[ElvenFury]

You're bound to suck if you're playing online now, everyone has such a huge head start on gear and equipment.

Nah, I'm playing the one-player right now. If and when I play online it will probably just be for shits and giggles to see how fast I die.

[Paradii]

Nah, I'm playing the one-player right now. If and when I play online it will probably just be for shits and giggles to see how fast I die.


Meh, fuck online. Now there is the unlimited ammo viral shit going on...

http://gamingtips.org.uk/gamingnews/10169

[ElvenFury]

Meh, fuck online. Now there is the unlimited ammo viral shit going on...

http://gamingtips.org.uk/gamingnews/10169

Lovely. Are they patching the 360 version? Mine isn't online at the moment, but I'm planning on getting a wireless card for it soon.

BTW, friendly fire sucks, but it's not my fault the keep running by while I'm firing.

[Clove]

I <3 the AC-130.

[Sean of the Thread]

Lovely. Are they patching the 360 version? Mine isn't online at the moment, but I'm planning on getting a wireless card for it soon.

BTW, friendly fire sucks, but it's not my fault the keep running by while I'm firing.


I won't even play a multiplayer FPS without friendly fire on.

[Some Rogue]

Got this for Christmas for the PS3. Played through the campaign in like 4 hours or so. I've done a couple of the Special Ops so far too. It's a lot of fun but that opinion might change when I get into Multiplayer and my noob ass gets killed repeatedly hehe.

[AnticorRifling]

Lovely. Are they patching the 360 version? Mine isn't online at the moment, but I'm planning on getting a wireless card for it soon.

BTW, friendly fire sucks, but it's not my fault the keep running by while I'm firing.


Your line of fire is your baby. Tunnel vision is bad. One of the scariest things I ever had happen was a fellow Marine running into my line of fire, had a clear front sight post center mass on him during live fire. Called a cease fire and turtle fucked him proper.

[ElvenFury]

Do I want to know what a "turtle fuck" is?

[AnticorRifling]

The kevlar helmets we wear look like turtle shells, either use the butt of your rifle or your own kevlar and pound the shit out of his melon while he's wearing his kevlar. I used the rifle.

[ElvenFury]

The kevlar helmets we wear look like turtle shells, either use the butt of your rifle or your own kevlar and pound the shit out of his melon while he's wearing his kevlar. I used the rifle.

I just laughed and cringed at the same time. I love military terminology.

[septus]

Picked this up at the beginning of the month for the 360. Finally got the hang of the game, so now I'm working on getting my k/d ratio up above 1. (at .92 right now) If anyone wants to group together, add me on live, I'm soleblaze. Of course I mostly play on the weekends atm since I try to do most of my school work on the weekdays.

[DoctorUnne]

Does anyone know where I can get a hold of how many copies of this game were sold before the end of last year? I'd like to get a sense of how badly ATVI is going to beat analyst expectations before they announce earnings.

[Cacklewack]

Picked this up at the beginning of the month for the 360. Finally got the hang of the game, so now I'm working on getting my k/d ratio up above 1. (at .92 right now) If anyone wants to group together, add me on live, I'm soleblaze. Of course I mostly play on the weekends atm since I try to do most of my school work on the weekdays.

Ashren -- I'm the worst ever, but on live I'm Plumbingfire.

Cheers

[DarkSorc]

Funny thing about turtle fucking is that if we use our MICH helmets to turtle fuck the normal military's kevlars we can actually shatter theirs since ours is made of better materials, ie ceramic, kevlar, that stuff..... I remember on one of my deployments some stupid regular grunt tried it on me and his Kevlar shattered... was quite funny.... ahh funny times in war zones...