Spells?!

Anyone hear of a list of the Paladin circle and hinderance issues yet?

[Galleazzo]

Not a clue or a rumor. I'm converting to Paladin anyway,

Cleric or Warrior?

I will be a paladin
they have been completely tight liped about the spells

[Trinitis]

I *seriously* hope they work the spell failure for paladins well. I'm going to hate simu for life if they cannot cast in plate effectively.

-Adredrin

[Atlanteax]

Originally posted by LordAdredrin
I *seriously* hope they work the spell failure for paladins well. I'm going to hate simu for life if they cannot cast in plate effectively.

-Adredrin

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I haven't heard/seen any real specific detail about Paladins yet.

They have two spell lists.

Minor Spiritual will be same failure, fairly generous at 16% in MBP to 20% for full plate.

As for the Paladin list, I'd expect spell failure to be somewhere in the range between the current MS failure and the Ranger failure (21% to 30%). I think It'll be more like 20-28% respectively. But it'll probably be the same as the current Ranger failure though.

[Galleazzo]

Me, I'm a cleric now.

I don't mind going back to swinging, MinorS are the good spells anyway, screw MajorS.

I tried to work a decent warrior like paladin plan for Kneo, but I lose SO much going Paladin. On top of knowing I can't cast in plate with Minor Spirit as it is(they said somewhere on the OLD message boards that that was staying the same).

Even if they make it effective... You would still need alot more than 130 ranks in armor to use plate with low hinderance I'm guessing...

[Rogue Slayer]

bah. it doesnt sound worth it with al that hinderance. when are the new professions comming into play anyhow?

[Artha]

I think monks and paladins are coming in November, and Savants are coming RSN.

Yea, by what they say with spell circles coming, there are 2 missing, and that would havta be the Savant's Major Mental and Savant based. Because I know for a fact minor mental is on its way for Empaths and Bards.

[Galleazzo]

Wrong, bards aren't getting minor mental. Spellsongs are being called a "mental" list.

[StrayRogue]

Originally posted by Galleazzo
Wrong, bards aren't getting minor mental. Spellsongs are being called a "mental" list.

Well...you could already call them mental, in a way, as the mental lores apply to alot of Bard spells. The only professions who'll be using the Mental lists however, are Empaths, Monks, and Savants.

[Xcalibur]

Your friendly role master (gemstone is 99% based on it) friend is here

Based on their spell list, the palladin's spells are:

Turning their clothes in armors.
Turning their weapon to greater weapon (with or without special power)
Turning undead
Boosting themselves (and health point if i remember right (*2 damage, +10 as, the like too)
and one I don't remember, but I think it has a link with knowledges in general

Booh paladins, they sux in rolemastr (bards are so the best semi)

[Artha]

As GS has evolved, it's become less and less like rolemaster. I doubt they'll have either of the first two abilities.

[Xcalibur]

role master = 25 spells per spell list (5 for paladins)

125 spells, I think it's a bit safe to pretend that, hmm?:)

Let me dig my book out in a second, to confirm the spells..

Oh, I swore some bard told me they can't wait for their mental sphere to come out...

Oh well...

And GS is like 13.7% rolemaster now.

It once was more like it, but now it is not!

I'm assuming they will have an undead repeling spell around 20ish, and the rest being utility spells. A high level blessing spell and after that, a raising spells.

[Xcalibur]

I remind both of you that for a lot of players, gemstone is a hunting game

Hunting, killing in gemstone is based MOSTLY on rolemaster, I would say at least 90% of combat and spell notions in gemstone are STILL in used in role master.

Hell, even some spells still got their old rolemaster nicknames (120 = alkars)

As for paladin's spells, here are their official base list

Exorcisms
Holy Healing
Holy Arms
Communion
Holy Shields
Inspiring Ways

Here come the spells in those lists, beware, there's a lot (and you can bet an old 5 bucks that most spells of paladin will come from it)

Channelling Paladin Base Communion 1 Detect Enemies 50'R 1min/lvl C 100'/lvl P
Channelling Paladin Base Communion 2 Cancel Channeling caster 1min/lvl self F
Channelling Paladin Base Communion 3 Cancel Essence caster 1min/lvl self F
Channelling Paladin Base Communion 4 Cancel Mentalism caster 1min/lvl self F
Channelling Paladin Base Communion 5 Dreams I caster sleep self I
Channelling Paladin Base Communion 6 Enemy Speech caster 1min/lvl self I
Channelling Paladin Base Communion 7 Dispel Channeling I 1 target - 10' F
Channelling Paladin Base Communion 8 Dispel Essence I 1 target - 10' F
Channelling Paladin Base Communion 9 Dispel Mentalism I 1 target - 10' F
Channelling Paladin Base Communion 10 Detect Enemies II 100'R 1min/lvl C 500'/lvl P
Channelling Paladin Base Communion 11 Dream III caster sleep self I
Channelling Paladin Base Communion 12 Death's Tale caster - self I
Channelling Paladin Base Communion 13 Channel Opening I 1 being C 1mi/lvl U
Channelling Paladin Base Communion 14 Dispel Chan. Sphere I 10'R C self F
Channelling Paladin Base Communion 15 Dispel Essence Sphere I 10'R C self F
Channelling Paladin Base Communion 16 Dispel Ment. Sphere I 10'R C self F
Channelling Paladin Base Communion 17 Commune I caster C self U
Channelling Paladin Base Communion 18
Channelling Paladin Base Communion 19 Death's Tale True caster - self I
Channelling Paladin Base Communion 20 Detect Enemies True 200'R 1min/lvl C 1000'/lvl P
Channelling Paladin Base Communion 25 Commune True caster C self U
Channelling Paladin Base Communion 30 Channel Opening True 1 being C 1mi/lvl U
Channelling Paladin Base Communion 50 High Prayer caster C self U


Channelling Paladin Base Exorcisms 1 Repel Undead I varies 1min/lvl 100' F
Channelling Paladin Base Exorcisms 2 Detect Undead 10'R 1min/lvl (C) 10'/lvl P
Channelling Paladin Base Exorcisms 3 Repel Undead III varies 1min/lvl 100' F
Channelling Paladin Base Exorcisms 4 Repel Demon I 5'R/lvl C 10' F
Channelling Paladin Base Exorcisms 5 Repel Undead V varies 1min/lvl 100' F
Channelling Paladin Base Exorcisms 6 Repel Demon II 5'R/lvl C 10' F
Channelling Paladin Base Exorcisms 7 Banish Demon I 1 demon 1mo/lvl 10' F
Channelling Paladin Base Exorcisms 8 Neutralise Curse I 1 target 1min/lvl touch F
Channelling Paladin Base Exorcisms 9 Repel Demon II 5'R/lvl C 10' F
Channelling Paladin Base Exorcisms 10 Repel Undead X varies 1min/lvl 100' F
Channelling Paladin Base Exorcisms 11 Banish Demon II 1 demon 1mo/lvl 10' F
Channelling Paladin Base Exorcisms 12 Repel Undead XII varies 1min/lvl 100' F
Channelling Paladin Base Exorcisms 13 Repel Demon IV 5'R/lvl C 10' F
Channelling Paladin Base Exorcisms 14 Neutralise Curse II 1 target 1hr/lvl touch F
Channelling Paladin Base Exorcisms 15 Repel Undead XV varies 1min/lvl 100' F
Channelling Paladin Base Exorcisms 16 Repel Demon V 5'R/lvl C 10' F
Channelling Paladin Base Exorcisms 17 Banish Demon III 1 demon 1mo/lvl 10' F
Channelling Paladin Base Exorcisms 18 Neutralise Curse III 1 target 1day/lvl touch F
Channelling Paladin Base Exorcisms 19 Repel Demon VI 5'R/lvl C 10' F
Channelling Paladin Base Exorcisms 20 Repel Undead True varies 1min/lvl 100' F
Channelling Paladin Base Exorcisms 25 Repel Demon True 10'R/lvl C 10' F
Channelling Paladin Base Exorcisms 30 Uncurse True 1 target P touch F
Channelling Paladin Base Exorcisms 50 Banish Demon True 1 demon 1mo/lvl 10' F


Channelling Paladin Base Holy Arms 1 Holy Attack I* self - self U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Arms 2 Righteous Blow I self - self U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Arms 3 Holy Strength I self 1rnd/lvl self U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Arms 4 Holy Attack II* self - self U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Arms 5 Righteous Blow II self - self U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Arms 6 Holy Focus* self - self U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Arms 7 Holy Attack III* self - self U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Arms 8 Righteous Blow III self - self U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Arms 9 Holy Aura I 10'R 1min/lvl self F
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Arms 10 Holy Attack IV* self - self U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Arms 11 Righteous Blow IV self - self U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Arms 12 Holy Strength II self 1rnd/lvl self U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Arms 13 Holy Attack V* self - self U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Arms 14
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Arms 15 Holy Aura II 10'R 1min/lvl self F
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Arms 16 Holy Attack VI* self - self U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Arms 17 Holy Strength self 1rnd/lvl self U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Arms 18
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Arms 19 Holy Attack VII* self - self U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Arms 20 Holy Aura True 10'R 1min/lvl self F
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Arms 25 Holy Attack True* self - self U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Arms 30 Holy Focus True* self - self U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Arms 50 Holy Martyr 1'R/lvl - self E


Channelling Paladin Base Holy Healing 1 Healing I 1 target P touch U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Healing 2 Flowstop I 1 target P touch U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Healing 3 Frost/Burn Relief I 1 target P touch U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Healing 4 Minor Fracture Repair 1 target P touch U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Healing 5 Healing III 1 target P touch U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Healing 6 Stun Relief* 1 target P touch Us
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Healing 7 Major Fracture Repair 1 target P touch U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Healing 8 Disease Resistance I 1 target 10min/lvl touch U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Healing 9 Poison Resistance I 1 target 10min/lvl touch U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Healing 10 Minor Vessel Repair 1 target P touch U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Healing 11 Healing V 1 target P touch U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Healing 12 Muscle/Tendon Repair 1 target P touch U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Healing 13 Frost/Burn Relief III 1 target P touch U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Healing 14 Stun Relief III* 1 target P touch Us
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Healing 15 Unparalysis 1 target P touch U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Healing 16 Healing X 1 target P touch U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Healing 17 Frost/Burn Relief IV 1 target P touch U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Healing 18 Undisease 1 target P touch U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Healing 19 Unpoison 1 target P touch U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Healing 20 Stun Relief True* 1 target P touch Us
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Healing 25 Healing XV 1 target P touch U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Healing 30 Healing True 1 target P touch U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Healing 50 Laying on Hands True 1 target P touch U


Channelling Paladin Base Holy Shields 1 Protection Prayer I 10'R 1min/lvl self U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Shields 2 Aura caster 10min/lvl self U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Shields 3 Shield* caster 1min/lvl self U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Shields 4 Blur* caster 1min/lvl self U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Shields 5 Unpain I* caster 1min/lvl self Us
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Shields 6 Protection Prayer II 10'R 1min/lvl self U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Shields 7 Deflections I* 1 missles - 10' U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Shields 8 True Aura caster 10min/lvl self U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Shields 9 Bladeturn I* 1 melee attack - 10' U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Shields 10 Unpain II* caster 1min/lvl self Us
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Shields 11 Protection Prayer III 10'R 1min/lvl self U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Shields 12 Deflections II* 2 missles - 10' U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Shields 13 Aim Untrue I* 1 missles - 100' U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Shields 14 Bladeturn II* 2 melee attacks - 10' U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Shields 15 Unpain III* caster 1min/lvl self Us
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Shields 16 Protection Prayer IV 10'R 1min/lvl self U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Shields 17 Deflections III* 3 missles - 10' U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Shields 18 Aim Untrue II* 2 missles - 100' U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Shields 19 Bladeturn III* 3 melee attacks - 10' U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Shields 20 Unpain IV caster 1min/lvl self Us
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Shields 25 Protection Prayer True 10'R 1min/lvl self U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Shields 30 Mass Deflections 1 missle/lvl - 10' U
Channelling Paladin Base Holy Shields 50 Holy Shields True varies 1rnd/lvl varies U


Channelling Paladin Base Inspiring Ways 1 Courage 10'R 1min/lvl self U
Channelling Paladin Base Inspiring Ways 2 Inspirations I* 20'R 1min/lvl 100' U
Channelling Paladin Base Inspiring Ways 3 Voice of Friendship* 1 target varies 50' Fm
Channelling Paladin Base Inspiring Ways 4 Inspirations II* 20'R 1min/lvl 100' U
Channelling Paladin Base Inspiring Ways 5 Voice Reason* 1 target varies 50' Fm
Channelling Paladin Base Inspiring Ways 6 Inspirations III* 20'R 1min/lvl 100' U
Channelling Paladin Base Inspiring Ways 7 Voice of Caution* 1 target varies 50' Fm
Channelling Paladin Base Inspiring Ways 8 Command I* 1 target C 10'/lvl Fm
Channelling Paladin Base Inspiring Ways 9 Inspirations IV* 20'R 1min/lvl 100' U
Channelling Paladin Base Inspiring Ways 10 Words of Friendship* varies varies 100' Fm
Channelling Paladin Base Inspiring Ways 11 Inspirations V* 20'R 1min/lvl 100' U
Channelling Paladin Base Inspiring Ways 12
Channelling Paladin Base Inspiring Ways 13 Command II* 1 target C 10'/lvl Fm
Channelling Paladin Base Inspiring Ways 14 Words of Reason* varies varies 100' Fm
Channelling Paladin Base Inspiring Ways 15 Inspirations VI* 20'R 1min/lvl 100' U
Channelling Paladin Base Inspiring Ways 16 Courage True* 10'R 1min/lvl self U
Channelling Paladin Base Inspiring Ways 17 Inspirations VII* 20'R 1min/lvl 100' U
Channelling Paladin Base Inspiring Ways 18 Words of Caution* varies varies 100' Fm
Channelling Paladin Base Inspiring Ways 19 Inspirations VIII* 20'R 1min/lvl 100' U
Channelling Paladin Base Inspiring Ways 20 Voice of Conviction 1 target varies 10' Fm
Channelling Paladin Base Inspiring Ways 25 Inspirations True* 20'R 1min/lvl 100' U
Channelling Paladin Base Inspiring Ways 30 Words of Conviction varies varies 100' Fm
Channelling Paladin Base Inspiring Ways 50 Inspirations Mastery varies 1rnd/lvl varies U

[Galleazzo]

Most of the mechanics are still RM. They just filed off the serial numbers and stamped new names on things, is all.