View Full Version : Caught red handed - Real World Dilemma (a bit long)
Wezas
03-09-2004, 07:51 PM
My girl and I have a dog. We've had this dog for about a year and a half, big newfoundland, and we both love her.
Two months ago, we hired a dog walker. The girl running the service is great, she was the one who originally ran the puppy obedience training at the nearby petstore. She has people working for her who spend 20-30 minutes with the dogs and take them for walks, etc.
At first we had the owner of the company coming by until she had us meet a woman. This woman was great, even gave us tons of information about her we didn't really need (she used to be a teacher, she loves kids and pets, she rough-houses with her sons so a big dog isn't a problem). She was perfect, however our house was out of her way and she often got stuck in traffic. So after a few weeks the owner asked us if we mind using another employee.
Enter "the problem". She seemed nice enough, seemed to understand everything we were saying. Come sometime between 12pm-2pm, take the dog for a walk, and leave us a note how things went. About a week after we started, I noticed two pictures on the floor. They had fallen out of a photo album that was on a shelf (tucked in there). It was odd, so I decided to just do some checking.
I set up my webcam originally to keep an eye on my sump pump, as we had problems with flooding. So, I turned it towards the dog's crate and set it to record for 10 minutes if any motion was detected.
Day 1. She arrived after 3pm (my girl gets home about 4pm, so we might as well not have a walker if she's that late). The note she left said she took our dog on a nice long walk. She and the dog dissappeared upstairs (the front door is upstairs) for about 7 or 8 minutes, and then came back down and she hung the leash up, and rustled the harness to make it look like she used it. Odd, so I let the camera run another day.
Day 2. Well, the camera was acting up, so I only caught the end of the video, which ended at about 11am. (about two hours after I left for work). I did notice that the leash was still on the rack, and she moved it just a bit so that it wasn't even.
Day 3. Today. Last night I went out and bought another cheap webcam. I wanted to know what she was doing upstairs, as the camera was downstairs. I ran a cord through a hole we have drilled in the floor upstairs (for speaker wire) and set up the webcam to record when motion is sensed. She arrived at about 3:30 again. She went downstairs, let the dog out of her crate, and then let the dog out back. She then went upstairs, took a piss (I got no problem with that), then started writing her note to us. She then went back downstairs, let the dog in, put the dog in her crate and went back upstairs.
The good part: Her note said that she took the dog for a long walk. The leash was never touched. The camera upstairs recorded her going through our fridge and freezer, and saw her leaving with a coke and a bag of chips.
It looked like she saw the upstairs camera when she was heading out, as she hesitated taking the chips and soda. But she went ahead and took them.
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We have all of this video recorded and archived. The girl who owns the business is out of town for the rest of the week. I'm going to call the other girl who schedules the walks and let her know I'm working from home the rest of the week.
I don't want this girl back in my house. I especially don't want her to know what we know while she still has a key.
What do you think the appropriate way to bring this up to the owner is? Should I admit that I have video? I'd like to still use her company and don't want her other employees to worry about "big brother watching". Only thing I can think of is telling her a neighbor or someone noticed the new car pulling up but noone taking the dog for a walk. Lame reason, but I'm not sure what to do. Any suggestions would be helpful.
Bobmuhthol
03-09-2004, 07:54 PM
Kill her.
Ravenstorm
03-09-2004, 07:55 PM
There's nothing wrong with being entirely upfront and honest about the entire incident. You don't have to make excuses for checking up on someone in your own house who was responsible for your pet. Especially after you had provocation. Personally, i'd say if they got upset about it that's just reason to never use them again.
Raven
Pierat
03-09-2004, 07:58 PM
Keep taping, maybe she will take a shower! ::Snickers:: J/K
Wezas
03-09-2004, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by Pierat
Keep taping, maybe she will take a shower! ::Snickers:: J/K
She's not that hot. Bob, your idea intrigues me :saint:
Bobmuhthol
03-09-2004, 08:00 PM
If you feel like paying for transportation, I can take care of her.
Wezas
03-09-2004, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by Bobmuhthol
If you feel like paying for transportation, I can take care of her.
Maimara is in the area, I'm sure she could take her.
HarmNone
03-09-2004, 08:02 PM
I agree with Raven. Tell the business owner the truth. There is no reason to hide it from her. You have every right to protect your property, and it is prudent to do so.
The business owner will probably greatly appreciate being told that one of her employees is doing more harm than good for the business she is trying to run.
As far as the key is concerned, I would change the locks on your doors. You can never be sure she has not copied the key. :no:
HarmNone
Pierat
03-09-2004, 08:04 PM
And actually, tell the buissness owner about the tape, but mention how much you like her buisness and want to stay with it, and that you would like to keep the tape between the two of you and just get a different employee, or flat out lie and say your neighbors been keeping an eye out for you, lol
Wezas
03-09-2004, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by HarmNone
The business owner will probably greatly appreciate being told that one of her employees is doing more harm than good for the business she is trying to run.
True, that was one of my concerns too. I have no idea how many houses this girl visits everyday.
As far as the key is concerned, I would change the locks on your doors. You can never be sure she has not copied the key. :no:
HarmNone
Yeah, my girl is already pressing me to do that right away. A good idea, I'll try to make her think it was my idea.
GSLeloo
03-09-2004, 08:05 PM
That's really shitty cause you're paying for her to do something and she's not. Definetly bitch and try to get any money you paid back. She cheated you.
HarmNone
03-09-2004, 08:06 PM
I shall sell you my patent on that wonderful idea for....
a smile! :D
HarmNone
Wezas
03-09-2004, 08:18 PM
True Pierat.
I wouldn't have started taping if it weren't for those pictures on the floor. Don't want people going through my shit when they should be working. Glad the computers were locked, she might find my porn.
Latrinsorm
03-09-2004, 08:18 PM
Totally be honest. Totally change the locks. If I was clever with electromonic stuff, I'd have cameras around too. Mostly because I don't believe I snore.
Wezas
03-09-2004, 08:22 PM
Originally posted by Latrinsorm
If I was clever with electromonic stuff, I'd have cameras around too. Mostly because I don't believe I snore.
I've seen you sleep through the bedroom window. You snore.
she stole from you, she is a criminal, she betrayed your trust, press charges.
The Cat In The Hat
03-09-2004, 08:31 PM
Definatley talk to the business owner and she will likley understand. It's perfectly within your rights to record anything that happens in your own home.
Trust me she wont be upset and she will indeed thank you for the heads up because NO business owner wants an employee like that.
Express your concern that she could have made copies of the key, the owner will either likley help you pay for the locks to be changed or offer you some kind of compensation, even if a few weeks of free service is all she can afford.
Cat
Latrinsorm
03-09-2004, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by Wezas
I've seen you sleep through the bedroom window. You snore. If I don't believe my parents, why would I believe (however well-intentioned) a stranger who partakes of late night walks through my backyard?
Wezas
03-09-2004, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by Latrinsorm
Originally posted by Wezas
I've seen you sleep through the bedroom window. You snore. If I don't believe my parents, why would I believe (however well-intentioned) a stranger who partakes of late night walks through my backyard?
You need to rake, these leaves are loud when I walk on them.
Nakiro
03-09-2004, 09:34 PM
Put posion in a your coke, leave it in the fridge, and let her take it and drink it.
On a more serious note, check with your state laws. If it is legal to record someone's actions within your house without them knowing it, consider pressing charges and submiting the tapes as evidence.
Wezas
03-09-2004, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by Nakiro
On a more serious note, check with your state laws. If it is legal to record someone's actions within your house without them knowing it, consider pressing charges and submiting the tapes as evidence.
I was thinking about that.
What I've come up with so far:
Called the woman who schedules the dog walkers and told her that I'd be working from home until further notice. Our deadbolt key only works on the front door (which is the key she has) so I've locked the doorknob lock as well (I have a key for that). That should last until the owner gets back from vacation. So I have until then to figure out what I'll say.
Ravenstorm
03-09-2004, 09:39 PM
Press charges on what? Theft of a can of soda and some chips? I'm sure the police will just love having their time wasted on that. And the DA will almost certainly not prosecute.
Fire her ass and tell her boss. And check up on whomever replaces her. And definitely change the locks as was suggested. Now if you find anything valuable is actually missing...
Raven
Nakiro
03-09-2004, 09:42 PM
Fraud.
Wezas
03-09-2004, 09:42 PM
Anyone know how to take a screenshot of a video (.avi) file? I've tried printscreen, but it just gives me blank pastes.
And, if I were to post it here I would of course blur out her face. Not that the webcam gives much detail in the first place. I just think the shot of her with chips in her hand, soda under her arm, and looking at the webcam is priceless.
Wezas
03-09-2004, 09:44 PM
Originally posted by Nakiro
Fraud.
Wouldn't there be a possiblity that I would have to direct the charges at the company? I mean if someone from the cable company comes in and eats your chips and coke, would you charge the company?
Bobmuhthol
03-09-2004, 09:45 PM
<<but it just gives me blank pastes.>>
I had the same problem like.. three years ago. If my terrible memory suddenly decides to be good, either ctrl or alt + prt scrn will do the trick. You might also need it paused for it to work or something.
Ravenstorm
03-09-2004, 09:49 PM
You paid the company, you'd have to sue them to get your money back if that's what you wanted to do. They in turn could sue their employee.
It's the DA's decision whether to prosecute someone on criminal charges or not and almost certainly, they aren't going to because someone let a dog piss in the backyard instead of taking him for a walk.
Disclaimer: such is my opinion and not legal advice. (avoids being sued)
Raven
Myshel
03-09-2004, 09:51 PM
Any employer would want to know that a employee was untrustworthy, they should have checked her out better. They are getting paid to do a job. In a business like that, having keys to people's homes, trust is a #1 priority. Your doing her a favor by reporting what she is doing, plus you are paying, so at the very least you should get some free service.
Report her immediately, change your locks and bitch real loud, don't embarrassed, be righteous!
Wezas
03-09-2004, 09:58 PM
Originally posted by Nakiro
On a more serious note, check with your state laws. If it is legal to record someone's actions within your house without them knowing it, consider pressing charges and submiting the tapes as evidence.
Any idea where I can find this info? Been looking for a few minutes with no luck.
Bobmuhthol
03-09-2004, 10:00 PM
Less research, more posting the idiot.
Nakiro
03-09-2004, 10:02 PM
It'd be easier if I knew what state you lived in.
Wezas
03-09-2004, 10:06 PM
Originally posted by Nakiro
It'd be easier if I knew what state you lived in.
Fairfax, Virginia
What, Landing Crypt didn't come up in the search?
[Edited on 3-10-2004 by Wezas]
Bobmuhthol
03-09-2004, 10:08 PM
Your town's name sucks.
POST HER GOD DAMNIT.
[Edited on 3-10-2004 by Bobmuhthol]
Wezas
03-09-2004, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by Bobmuhthol
Your town's name sucks.
POST HER GOD DAMNIT.
[Edited on 3-10-2004 by Bobmuhthol]
yeah, and Pepperell is a gem of a name
SpunGirl
03-09-2004, 11:26 PM
Wezas, you might want to reconsider pressing formal charges against this girl if you want to keep a good relationship with the business. The reason I say this is because if you do that, it becomes public, which could in turn ruin a perfectly good business for some people who hired one stupid girl.
See what the owner is willing to do for you first. If they blow you off, I say raise hell. But my bet is that they'll not only gladly compensate you, but they'll also be more careful about who they hire in the future.
-K
Ravenstorm
she took a soda and chips
petty theft.
just like a store can press charges against you for petty theft wezas can do the same
Wezas
03-10-2004, 12:12 AM
Originally posted by SpunGirl
Wezas, you might want to reconsider pressing formal charges against this girl if you want to keep a good relationship with the business. The reason I say this is because if you do that, it becomes public, which could in turn ruin a perfectly good business for some people who hired one stupid girl.
See what the owner is willing to do for you first. If they blow you off, I say raise hell. But my bet is that they'll not only gladly compensate you, but they'll also be more careful about who they hire in the future.
-K
That's my concern this whole time, Spun. The girl who runs the place is somewhat of a friend and has always been good to me. So I wouldn't want to press charges if it meant doing so against her and her business.
I think right now I'm just going to noodle it over in my head until the head girl gets back from europe next week.
Thanks everyone for your suggestions.
Bob, I'll work on the screenshot tomorrow morning.
Anebriated
03-10-2004, 12:12 AM
The worst part about the whole thing is that its a service based on trust. I would say go to the company, since you like them, and tell them what happened. Ask that they fire the girl. If they do id suggest not pressing charges. most likely the owner will feel bad and you will get some free dogwalking for a little while.
Also being as its in your house it is not illegal to record what goes on. Same thing as survalence video's. Might want to give the company a copy of the tapes so they can cover their backs as well... It sucks that people take advantage of the trust that is needed in their jobs like this but it happens, and luckily this girl will think twice before doing it again.
Wezas
03-10-2004, 12:21 AM
From what I've seen online, video recording in the home is fine. The audio is a bit iffy, but should be legal in VA. But it's not really a problem as I can strip the audio easily (basically nothing audible anyways). I've drop a few cents a paycheck into a legal service offered by my company, I may give them a call to see what they think. Also might contact the local cops, get their opinion (though they may want more info on her).
Ravenstorm
03-10-2004, 12:28 AM
Originally posted by The Edine
just like a store can press charges against you for petty theft wezas can do the same
Except if she says 'Oh, he said if I ever get thirsty I could raid the fridge.' or words to that effect. That obviously doesn't apply in a case of shoplifting.
I am not at all saying she didn't steal. I'm saying making a federal issue of it is a waste of time for Wezas since, even if the DA is willing to prosecute it - highly unlikely - he'd have to go to court and testify.
Raven
hell we prosecuted a woman who stole a $5.99 cloth from our store.
and who would they believe the owner of the house or the woman accused of stealing, i doubt it would even goto trial
Ravenstorm
03-10-2004, 12:39 AM
There is no defense to taking something from a store without paying for it. There is at least one defense in this case. If she insisted, it would go to trial if the prosecutor was willing to pursue it.
Raven
Caiylania
03-10-2004, 12:59 AM
I pretty much agree with the posters who said, be upfront and honest with her employer. You are probably helping her out, and the other people the girl 'walks' for as well.
I think its pretty cool you care about your dog that much too :) A lot of people don't even bother. If you get around to it, since we are most likely seeing a pic of Ms. Lazy chips post something of your dog, too!
Did you tape her peeing too Wezas? You frighten me...
And I want to see the puppy too.
ThisOtherKingdom
03-10-2004, 06:30 AM
My dog managed to not go inside the house from 9 am until 5 pm while I was dropping my parent's off at the airport. Train your dog better, problem solved.
Caiylania
03-10-2004, 08:49 AM
Originally posted by ThisOtherKingdom
My dog managed to not go inside the house from 9 am until 5 pm while I was dropping my parent's off at the airport. Train your dog better, problem solved.
I think it was more about getting the dog as much excercise as possible and just letting the dog be outside and not stuck in the house all day.
It's really very caring and good for the dog.
Wezas
03-10-2004, 09:07 AM
So a quick recap.
Girl notices webcam.
We call the dog walking service saying that I'll be working from home until further notice and that the girl does not need to come again.
(I assume) The dog walking service calls our dog walker and gives her the news.
:grr: So, this morning I wake up, go outside, put my laptop in the passenger seat, walk around the back of my car to get into it when I look and someone had hit my car. Back left brake light is shattered, left side of the back bumper scraped up. My six month old new car.
Called up the insurance, going to get an estimate, etc... basically it'll cost me $200 for the deductable.
<calms down for a few minutes and deletes a few sentances>
I realize that it would be unlikely that she would scrape up her own car, so that leads me to doubt it was her. Going to call the police now, just so it's on record.
TheEschaton
03-10-2004, 09:09 AM
Are you in a highly populated area? Is there a chance it could of been random?
-TheE-
Wezas
03-10-2004, 09:09 AM
Originally posted by Caiylania
I think it was more about getting the dog as much excercise as possible and just letting the dog be outside and not stuck in the house all day.
It is. My dog has been house broken since a month after we first got her. She's a big dog who may have joint/hip problems so the best way to avoid that is to walk her often.
It's really very caring and good for the dog.
Thank you. I care about my dog. Babies on the other hand.....
Wezas
03-10-2004, 09:10 AM
Originally posted by TheEschaton
Are you in a highly populated area? Is there a chance it could of been random?
-TheE-
Somewhat and Yes. It's more likely that it was random than it being her.
::edited to add that the cop came, nice guy, said he'd have the midnight shift look up and down my street for any vehicles with front right damage and maybe silver paint.::
[Edited on 3-10-2004 by Wezas]
Suppa Hobbit Mage
03-10-2004, 09:17 AM
Wezas, U2U me your service? I had dog walkers up until Mid January and never had issues at all. I'm not sure if they go to Fairfax though, so I'm curious who it is.
Thanks,
B
Caiylania
03-10-2004, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by Wezas
Originally posted by Caiylania
I think it was more about getting the dog as much excercise as possible and just letting the dog be outside and not stuck in the house all day.
It is. My dog has been house broken since a month after we first got her. She's a big dog who may have joint/hip problems so the best way to avoid that is to walk her often.
It's really very caring and good for the dog.
Thank you. I care about my dog. Babies on the other hand.....
Just for Wezas, a dancing naked baby with dogs picture. :D
AnticorRifling
03-10-2004, 10:54 AM
I say blackmail. If you need ideas U2U me. You can blackmail the individual, the company and your dog. I know some great tricks :cool:
AnticorRifling
03-10-2004, 10:54 AM
I say blackmail. If you need ideas U2U me. You can blackmail the individual, the company and your dog. I know some great tricks :cool:
Betheny
03-10-2004, 11:25 AM
Originally posted by Wezas
Originally posted by Bobmuhthol
If you feel like paying for transportation, I can take care of her.
Maimara is in the area, I'm sure she could take her.
HELL MOTHERFUCKIN YEAH!!!!
Atlanteax
03-10-2004, 11:43 AM
Wezas...
As others have already said...
Just approach the Owner with the Evidence and inform her in detail what you witness, with the tapes to convince her.
She will likely fire the Employee.
DO mention that you'd like to keep the Service, but would appreciate if you got two weeks of no-charge for dog-walking service.
The Owner DOES need to know, as otherwise, the Problem is likely not walking other dogs, and thus spreading a negative opinion of the Owner's (your Friend) dog-walking service, which will ultimately hurt her business.
So you WILL be doing her a favor by letting her know what's going on. Getting 2 weeks of no-charge dog-walking should be no problem for her to provide.
Also, you should ask the Owner if she thinks you should press charges, which Edine has already indicated, would be "Petty Theft". I think the Owner may be able to press the charges on your behalf, as it is her business, and the problem employee is damaging it. If she rather not, it's likely she doesn't want any bad press.
Let us know how it works out!
Galleazzo
03-10-2004, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by Wezas
yeah, and Pepperell is a gem of a name
Ain't nothing wrong with Pepperell except it's in the top five boring towns on earth.
And don't freaking conceal that you got webcam from the company! It's GOOD if the employees know you got surveillance and they can't fuck around on your dime.
Fengus
03-10-2004, 01:08 PM
I think you all are way overboard here, how old is the dogwalker? If she is some teenager talk to her personally and define what you mean by walking the dog, and tell her any rules about the soda and chips. If she is the babysitting type which generally has free reign in someone's house including food she just might not realize how important soda and chips are to you.
Besides walking dogs is tiring work, a drink and some sustenance is the least you could do, that and payment of course. ;)
Although I would call the owner and get any specifics that are related, like how long this girl has worked for her, does she understand her role, what she is supposed to be doing? Why the owner thinks she should be entrusted with keys to homes and responsiblity of their dogs. The fact that the one and only walker you got is apparently violating this trust says a lot about the owner too, what is her criteria for hiring walkers?
Galleazzo
03-10-2004, 01:58 PM
I hire a roofer to fix some shingles at my house, I don't owe him roaming around the place and raiding the fridge, teenager or geezer. It's not MY job to teach the dogwalker the company sends over how to do her job and not steal from the customers.
Wezas
03-10-2004, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by Fengus
I think you all are way overboard here, how old is the dogwalker?[quote]
Mid 20's
[quote]Besides walking dogs is tiring work, a drink and some sustenance is the least you could do, that and payment of course. ;)
But she didn't walk the dog!
SpunGirl
03-10-2004, 03:13 PM
Fengus, did you even read the original post? This isn't the first walker the company sent over. Also, the girl deliberately mussed the leash to LOOK like it had been moved. This says, "I know what I'm supposed to be doing but I don't feel like it, so I'll make it look like I did instead."
That's outright deception.
-K
Edited to add: I've had things like this happen to me in employment situations twice as "tests." The first time was when some people I was house-sitting for hid the leash so I couldn't take the dog for a walk, and then asked me, "Did you walk Casey like we asked?" to see if I would lie. I thought it was kind of weird, but whatever, I told him no, the leash wasn't where it was supposed to be or anywhere else!
In the job I have now, they deliberately overpaid me by more than $200 on my first paycheck to see if I would be honest and report it. I did - so I got to keep the money.
[Edited on 3-10-2004 by SpunGirl]
Caiylania
03-10-2004, 03:24 PM
Cause you ROCK SPUN!!
<-- Luvs -K
AnticorRifling
03-10-2004, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by Fengus
I think you all are way overboard here, how old is the dogwalker? If she is some teenager talk to her personally and define what you mean by walking the dog, and tell her any rules about the soda and chips. If she is the babysitting type which generally has free reign in someone's house including food she just might not realize how important soda and chips are to you.
Besides walking dogs is tiring work, a drink and some sustenance is the least you could do, that and payment of course. ;)
Although I would call the owner and get any specifics that are related, like how long this girl has worked for her, does she understand her role, what she is supposed to be doing? Why the owner thinks she should be entrusted with keys to homes and responsiblity of their dogs. The fact that the one and only walker you got is apparently violating this trust says a lot about the owner too, what is her criteria for hiring walkers?
Age is no excuse.
And the least he could do is pay her. Food and drink she can pay for with her own damn dime. My boss doesn't give me food and drink on top of my pay and neither should he for her.
This is the second walker he has had from that company due to traffic issues, read the post before you put in your two cents.
I say publically embarrass the hell out of her in front of everyone you can in a very public manner. Get the local news involved make an example out of this strumpet.
SpunGirl
03-10-2004, 04:48 PM
But that's kind of a harsh thing to do to the business if they're friends of Wezas', Anticor. Like it or not, this girl can give the business a bad name with her actions.
-K
AnticorRifling
03-10-2004, 04:56 PM
If the business can't do a simple screening or background check of employees then that is a proper action. They are going into people's homes and taking care of their pets. Two big items of accountability.
But I am more of the kill the individual not the group type so yeah go after the girl. Get her fired, get her name trashed and get her a rep that won't allow her to work in a three county range.
But that's just me.
The Cat In The Hat
03-10-2004, 06:30 PM
Heh, Wanna embarass her just send her a link to this thread.
:popcorn:
Cat
LordSagan
03-11-2004, 07:45 AM
As everyone here as said, be upfront with the company and tell them everything.
Also, do change your locks...and right away. Don't even hesitate about it. Never, ever take a chance when someone you no longer trust has keys to your home. It can come back and really bite you in the ass.
On a different note, one of my closest friends runs a dog walking service in the area. I don't know if he comes out to Fairfax or not, but I can check with him. If you want to change services, drop me a U2U or email and I can put you in touch with him for a meeting.
I still think all of us locals should get together for dinner here in Fairfax sometime soon ;)
AnticorRifling
03-11-2004, 08:17 AM
Am I the only one that walks my own dog?
Caiylania
03-11-2004, 08:21 AM
No, I walk my own. But if I had a full time job, on top of me walking them in the morning and night, I wouldn't mind having someone come by and walk/play with them during the day.
Myshel
03-11-2004, 08:23 AM
Yesterday I walked out the door and my two little chi's ran out and took off like bullets, barking like crazy. I ran after them and here they are running around this bull mastif, like they were going to eat him alive. I wish I had a camera handy, to catch the expression on the bull's face, he had his head tilted looking at my little rats like.."What the hell, are these little things?" The bull's owner was laughing so hard I thought he was going fall on the ground. Blushing like crazy I gathered my little titians up, (3/12 lbs and 5lbs) and apologized. He was still laughing as he walked away.
AnticorRifling
03-11-2004, 09:31 AM
I know the feeling. My five pound weiner dog goes after our neighbors lab ever chance she gets. The lab just stands there kind of confused heh.
Back on track. I've got two jobs and still take care of my dogs I don't know why a dog walking company exists. Kind of defeats the purpose of having a dog. But then again some people's work can take them away from home alot so it could be justifiable I just hope I never have to use one. A stranger in my house hellz no.
HarmNone
03-11-2004, 09:36 AM
I shall be interested to hear how this all turns out. It disturbs me to think of someone going into other peoples' homes under the pretense of providing a service, then breaking their trust and the trust of her employer. Let us know how things go, Wezas.
Myshel's Tale of Two Titans cracked me up! I can see the little rodents circling for the kill. :lol:
HarmNone
Wezas
03-11-2004, 10:46 AM
Originally posted by AnticorRifling
Am I the only one that walks my own dog?
<Not being defensive, just stating the facts>
I walk the dog in the morning and at night. However I leave for work at about 7:45 and my girl doesn't get home till after 4 (sometimes later).
8 hours the dog is in her crate (we're still trying to get her to the point where we can just leave her in a room the whole day and trust her not to chew on things)
She has a slight hip problem already (she's almost 2) and the doctor said the best thing for her is walking and swimming.
Galleazzo
03-11-2004, 11:05 AM
I got a great dog I don't have to walk when I come home from work wrecked.
She's called a "rabbit."
Wezas
03-11-2004, 12:19 PM
http://www.intriguing.com/mp/_pictures/grail/rabbitat.jpg
I'll take my chances with a big cuddly Newfoundland Dog.
HarmNone
03-11-2004, 12:22 PM
What the hell is that furious white thing, Wezas? :lol:
HarmNone is curious
Syberus
03-11-2004, 12:34 PM
Not sure if it's been covered since I didn't get a chance to read the whole thing... but if you're going to sue the company will end up getting hit for it not the girl I believe. The employer is responsible for the actions of the employee in almost every circumstance that I can think of in civil cases.. unless you're pressing criminal charges for theft in which she would be held responsible I believe.. but stealing a can of soda and chips would probably not stick.
Wezas
03-11-2004, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by HarmNone
What the hell is that furious white thing, Wezas? :lol:
HarmNone is curious
The killer rabbit from Monty Python (Holy Grail?). Wish I could find a clearer picture of it on the internet.
HarmNone
03-11-2004, 12:39 PM
Heh. That is what I was thinking it was, but I was not sure. Kinda reminds me of that TV news clip a few years ago of the hunter being attacked by the angry deer. Too funny! :lol:
HarmNone
GSLeloo
03-11-2004, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by Myshel
Yesterday I walked out the door and my two little chi's ran out and took off like bullets, barking like crazy. I ran after them and here they are running around this bull mastif, like they were going to eat him alive. I wish I had a camera handy, to catch the expression on the bull's face, he had his head tilted looking at my little rats like.."What the hell, are these little things?" The bull's owner was laughing so hard I thought he was going fall on the ground. Blushing like crazy I gathered my little titians up, (3/12 lbs and 5lbs) and apologized. He was still laughing as he walked away.
LoL I know exactly what you mean! my aunt and our neighbor have those weiner dogs... and they come running up to our 90 pound Golden and bark at her and bite her chest fur and stuff and she just stares down at them in wonder. Of course, if it was a ferret she'd be hiding on my mothers bed.
Hanksbane
03-11-2004, 12:48 PM
Never underestimate the power of a rabbit.
Mine nips at the bottom of my pants and sometimes gets a piece of my foot. Bloody bunny! i think she may be a decendent of the rabbits from Monty Python and the holy Grail.
Fengus
03-11-2004, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by AnticorRifling
[quote]Originally posted by Fengus
Hey whatcha gettin all on my case for? I was only offering some different advice. Personally I would set a trap for her, then sell off her organs and body parts on the black market. But I was trying out a more moderate approach since no one else seemed to be doing it.
:P
Betheny
03-11-2004, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by LordSagan
I still think all of us locals should get together for dinner here in Fairfax sometime soon ;)
Am I invited, or do I have to bring 93729473 forms of ID and proof of address and residency, like at the DMV?
Wezas
03-11-2004, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by Maimara
Am I invited, or do I have to bring 93729473 forms of ID and proof of address and residency, like at the DMV?
We can go to your club, Maim, some night when you're not working so you can sit down with us and gawk at the dancers.
Betheny
03-11-2004, 03:29 PM
Yeah, my 'club' is a grocery store. We can gawk at the melons.
Galleazzo
03-11-2004, 03:49 PM
My bunny is brown and she's a tiny gal. Don't think she's gonna be pwning any knights any time soon. Mostly she likes to run up to people and sniff them.
Hanksbane
03-11-2004, 04:23 PM
Mine rabbit is white and brown and is the size of a footbal
SpunGirl
03-11-2004, 04:23 PM
My mentally disabled fat cat bites my head in the morning to wake me up.
-K
Caiylania
03-11-2004, 11:44 PM
Originally posted by SpunGirl
My mentally disabled fat cat bites my head in the morning to wake me up.
-K
Shit, there is now OJ on my monitor and keyboard. Thx.
HarmNone
03-11-2004, 11:55 PM
Heh. Sounds like my Japanese Bobtail, Spun. She has to make a nest in my hair every night. She digs for 20 minutes to get it juuusst right. Drives me bonkers!
HarmNone, owned by cats
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