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Drew
11-01-2004, 08:27 PM
Here's my post from the official boards:

Well, focused 609 is fairless useless.

You gesture at XXXX.
A sudden burst of bright light emanates from your hand right in XXXX's face!
CS: +151 - TD: +91 + CvA: +2 + d100: +91 == +153
Warding failed!
XXXX reels and stumbles under the intense flare of light!
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

That's on a like level warrior, with no spells at all on him and no cfocus. My ranger is about 1.33x spells, 34 ranger ranks, 12 MnS ranks (my MnS CS is 131).

So overtrained in spells I only have a 60% chance of warding the easiest target possible, every critter near like level to me has a much higher CS.

On the other hand, I LOVE the other changes to 609 and 608. I love people being not able to immediately rehide when they are 609'd.

I wouldn't even complain about focused 609 being fairly worthless if it weren't for 635 being CS based.

Bottom line: Some great changes that are much appreciated, but Ranger CS needs to be fixed before 635 is released.

Jonty
11-01-2004, 08:32 PM
Since 609 unfocused is still not level basedand it now would prevent me from hiding immediately, I'll be more likely to attack people who cast this spell while I'm hiding.

Drew
11-01-2004, 08:34 PM
Definately makes it more useful against Coinner and thieves.

Chadj
11-01-2004, 08:42 PM
If you go by CS in semi's on how good a spell is, you can assume all CS based spells suck for the first 50 levels.

Why?
Because Semi's have shit for CS.. Bards later get 425 which helps some, but regardless, Chadj certainly can't cast at like level stuff, and he's overtrained too.

Drew
11-01-2004, 08:51 PM
Well, they just designed this spell, I'm not asking for good 110 casting, but it doesn't make sense to design a spell that isn't worthwhile.

Chadj
11-01-2004, 08:53 PM
hehe, note 1001, 1002, 1013, 1015, 1016, 1017 etc.

There are tons of useless spells. I just plucked those from my bard.

I agree completely with you, but it's not completely useless. It'll have it's uses when you hit a higher level.

Drew
11-01-2004, 08:56 PM
Rangers have there fair share of useless share, 620 for instance. But this spell won't have uses at higher levels, the CS on older casters is not looking very good. Anyway, the best time to ask for changes is right when they release the spell I figure, not long after it's made.

Lyonis
11-01-2004, 10:12 PM
I'm having a fairly easy timing warding what I hunt with 609. I just can't see any tangible benefits to using it as of yet. Anyone else?