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100% Wool
03-10-2004, 07:02 AM
I've decided to make a Dark Elf Rogue

LVL 0 PTP - 55 MTP- 36
STR 90
CON 70
DEX 90
AGL 80
DIS 90
AUR 95
LOG 50
INT 45
WIS 30
INF 20
LVL 50
STR 100
CON 83
DEX 100
AGL 100
DIS 100
AUR 100
LOG 70
INT 73
WIS 45
INF 48


2x OHE
2x 2 Weapon Combat
2x Hiding
2x Perception
2x Ambush
2x Pickpocketing
2x CM
2x Dodge
1.5 Physical Fitness
1x armor till - 35 ranks

Or I might do all of the above
but take out ambush and hiding
and replace it with 3x Dodge and Multi Opponent and 2x Physical Fitness
and train up to a heavier armor

any opinions or suggestions

[Edited on 3-10-2004 by 100% Wool]

03-10-2004, 07:19 AM
Not from me, thats a damn good thief/assasin plan there!


100% Wool
03-10-2004, 10:55 AM

03-10-2004, 01:12 PM
You bumped for four hours worth??

03-10-2004, 01:25 PM
a little less...but then you bumped again...and i bumbed...ahh! :(:(:(

100% Wool
03-10-2004, 01:29 PM
i was eagar to hear the thoughts of others...

03-10-2004, 01:35 PM
I'd lower dex, agl, aur, and dis. I'd use those points to raise int, log, and inf.

As a rogue, your agl and dex are going to get a bonus from the start, and they're going to grow quickly, too. Putting them so high so soon isn't necessary. I'd raise the int and logic because these control your exp absorption. The higher they are, the faster you'll level.

03-10-2004, 02:00 PM
I'd 3x dodge minimum. Lower CM to 1x or 1.5x.

100% Wool
03-10-2004, 02:09 PM
should i still train in hide/ambush/perception if i 3x in dodge?
Not sure how 2 Weapon Combat works with BOLT DS
I don't wanna get stomped in by a bolt or fireball
will I be able to dodge it,or should i 2x in dodge and go for hiding and ambushing, i want the CM to get ranks of hamstring and qstrike
ahhhh so many things to train in,so little tp

03-10-2004, 02:12 PM
You can't do everything. Rather you can't be good at everything. I wouldn't bother with ambush, if you are going to be attrition killing. I wouldn't bother with TWC is you are going to be ambushing. I'd still train in hide regardless, otherwise why be a rogue?

03-10-2004, 02:15 PM
If im correct you only get the ambush bonus for the first swing of the two when attacking from hiding. Id drop the ambush/hide(unless you want it for stealing) then bump up your Dodge to 3x. Also Id try to keep PT at an even 2x for you. With your training plan you will be hit. You will want as much redux as you can gather and the extra .5x will get you another coupld % of redux in older ages.

edit: might be worth dropping both the hiding and ambush to add in some MOC as well, at least until 35 ranks or so, 4 attacks at 1 critter is damned powerful. as well as 2 attacks at 3 critters.

[Edited on 3-10-2004 by Elrodin]

100% Wool
03-10-2004, 02:17 PM
is it beneficial to 3x in hide ?

03-10-2004, 02:18 PM
Nope. Unless you are ambushing/sniping.

100% Wool
03-10-2004, 02:23 PM
with the training this is going,should I just be a warrior?

03-10-2004, 02:24 PM

100% Wool
03-10-2004, 03:37 PM

3x dodge


2.8x hiding

2x ambush
2x ohe
2x 2handed combat
2x physical fitness
2x pickpocket


1.5x cm


8 Ranks in Armor to wear Double by lvl 15


Any Thoughts?

My plan at older levels to hunt is to HAMSTRING - HIDE - AMBUSH - QSTRIKE

Severing a limb when using 2 weapon combat makes the second weapon aim for another part when the first weapon takes out a body part. So I figure ambush will help
even though it only helps the first attack.

I heard rumors about things being changed to hiding depending on armor as well,so I figured I'd wear double. Any thoughts on the rumors?

[Edited on 3-10-2004 by 100% Wool]

03-10-2004, 03:48 PM
I'd go all the way for brig. The hinderance only really will kick in at chain and above.

100% Wool
03-10-2004, 04:02 PM
3x dodge


2.5x hiding

2x ambush
2x ohe
2x 2handed combat
2x physical fitness
2x pickpocket


1.5x cm


35 ranks of armor by lvl 50 for brig

LVL 50
153 - dodging
102 - OHE
102 - 2 Weapon Combat
102 - Ambush
102 - Physical Fitness
102 - Pickpocketing
128 - Hiding
51 - perception
76 - Combat Manuevars
35 - armor
8 - climbing
2 - swimming


[Edited on 3-10-2004 by 100% Wool]

100% Wool
03-11-2004, 06:22 PM
anyone have any thoughts about this training template

35 ranks of armor by 35
2x edged
2x 2 weapon combat
2x CM

1x Physical Fitness
3x dodge

1x perception
2x pickpocket
10 ranks of climbing by 35
5 ranks of swimming by 35

i decided to not take up hiding/ambush

but instead replace it eithr with 35 ranks of MOC or 2x pick lock/2x disarm 2x perception

[Edited on 3-11-2004 by 100% Wool]

100% Wool
03-12-2004, 04:40 AM
..any thoughts?

03-12-2004, 07:54 AM
Just be a warrior with training like that. I have never seen the point of being a rogue if you're not going to kill things by suprise. If you did go that route though you can get heavier armor, since you're not hiding you don't need to worry about staying in brig. It looks like a fun training plan to me and it's something similiar to what my warrior was before I handed him off.