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RichardCranium
10-23-2009, 06:28 AM
Ole Miss tweaks fight song (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=4586847)

JACKSON, Miss. -- The University of Mississippi has shortened one of its fight songs to discourage football fans from chanting "the South will rise again" during part of the tune, which critics say is an offensive reminder of the region's intolerant past.

However, some fans have continued to recite the chant at the end of the song, "From Dixie With Love," despite the change made last week at the chancellor's request. The Ole Miss band performs the medley before and after games.

Earlier this month, the Ole Miss student government passed a resolution suggesting the chant be replaced by the phrase, "To hell with LSU."

Dan Jones, who became Ole Miss chancellor in July, said he asked the school's band director, David Wilson, to modify the song to support the efforts of the Associated Student Body. He said he has received complaints from alumni that the slogan is offensive.

"The fact is, the phrase 'The South Will Rise Again' is not part of our tradition or spirit, and it is inconsistent with the university's values and what Ole Miss stands for -- a great public university with a focus on the future," Jones said in a phone interview Thursday from the campus in Oxford.

The modified version of the song ends abruptly before the chanting phase starts. It was first played Saturday at Ole Miss's homecoming game against the University of Alabama at Birmingham, but that didn't stop some fans from chanting.

Brian Ferguson, 26, head of the Colonel Reb Foundation, said he views the university actions as an attempt to silence students.

"I think it's a big to-do about nothing. There were very few people other than the students who knew to say it," said Ferguson, whose organization works to preserve traditions at Ole Miss. But Ferguson agreed that the chant really isn't a tradition.

"If the students get fired up and upset enough about it, they're going to continue to say it. Our biggest fear is that that's going to lead them to eliminate 'From Dixie With Love,' altogether."

The song blends the Confederate Army's fight song, "Dixie," with the Union Army's "Battle Hymn of the Republic," according to Peter K. Frost, a visiting professor of history and international studies at Ole Miss.

The school has worked to erase its image as a bastion of the Old South, which was solidified in 1962 when James Meredith's admission as the first black student led to a bloody standoff.

The university six years ago decided not to have an on-field mascot during sporting events, getting rid of the long-standing Colonel Rebel, a white-haired old man who carries a cane and resembles a plantation owner. At the time, school officials had said they needed a more athletic-looking mascot. The teams are still called the Rebels.

Sophomore Cortez Moss, director of communications for the ASB, said the organization is trying to explain to students why the phrase is offensive.

"You take back on that slave mentality," said Moss, who is black. "I know the South won't rise again and the South can't rise again."

Former Netscape CEO Jim Barksdale, who donated $100 million to the university in 2000, said the chant should be abandoned.

"I hope it will pass on quietly and the students will refrain from the chant, but I found out a long time ago it's hard to tell students what to say and what not to say," Barksdale said Thursday.

Roun McNeill, a former ASB president who is now in law school at Ole Miss, said his own decision to refrain from the chant was easily made.

"I said the chant one day and there was a black family sitting in front of me and they turned around and gave me this look like I hurt them," McNeill said

NocturnalRob
10-23-2009, 06:45 AM
Ugh...this crap again. These are the kind of people (what do you mean, "kind of people!?!") that get upset over the Redskins or the Braves or FSU.

Then again, I grew up watching Ole Miss games in Vaught, so I'm slightly biased...against this viewpoint.

And Jim's a good guy, but he may be preaching rhetoric here.

AnticorRifling
10-23-2009, 08:03 AM
I heard that if we make every effort to ignore history it never happened so this sounds like a good idea....

Celephais
10-23-2009, 08:56 AM
/waits for Jenova's racist comments.

Parkbandit
10-23-2009, 09:02 AM
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AnticorRifling
10-23-2009, 10:29 AM
We should probably change the national anthem as well since those rockets and bombs bursting caused death and pollution.

Keller
10-23-2009, 10:49 AM
Nationalism. Gotta love it.

WRoss
10-23-2009, 11:08 AM
OMG you are all racists. This is so not funny. Thats like saying Hitler will rise again. Everytime this is said, Stalin turns over in his grave and gives Hitler a high five. /end sarcasm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4f9zR5yzY

Warriorbird
10-23-2009, 11:14 AM
Fuck you, Ole Miss, Fuck you has so much more punch.

Latrinsorm
10-23-2009, 01:34 PM
I think this has less to do with "liberalism" and more to do with Ole Miss being understandably sensitive about its recent history of militaristic racism.

AnticorRifling
10-23-2009, 01:40 PM
I think this has less to do with "liberalism" and more to do with Ole Miss being understandably sensitive about its recent history of militaristic racism.
What happened? I don't keep up on Div III shenanigans (I was going to post the Super Troopers shenanigans poster but I typed shenanigans into google web search and the second web site that came up scared me...).

Latrinsorm
10-23-2009, 02:00 PM
President Kennedy had to call in the military to get James Meredith into Ole Miss. This followed the notorious "I Love Mississippi" speech by then-Gov. Barnett in the very same stadium currently in use today at halftime of a football game (against Kentucky, not that it really matters).

Methais
10-23-2009, 02:19 PM
While I agree that the south in general needs to get the fuck over the Civil War and accept the fact that the south isn't going to do shit, much less rise again, I think attributing the whole thing to racism is ridiculously fucking stupid.

I'm not sure who perpetuates racism more these days....the actual racists, or the people QQing racism for any and every reason they can think of no matter how absurd it is.

ElvenFury
10-23-2009, 02:30 PM
What happened? I don't keep up on Div III shenanigans (I was going to post the Super Troopers shenanigans poster but I typed shenanigans into google web search and the second web site that came up scared me...).
I like this one:

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AnticorRifling
10-23-2009, 02:52 PM
President Kennedy had to call in the military to get James Meredith into Ole Miss. This followed the notorious "I Love Mississippi" speech by then-Gov. Barnett in the very same stadium currently in use today at halftime of a football game (against Kentucky, not that it really matters).
I'm sad that you thought I really didn't know. I got me some book learnin damnit!

Latrinsorm
10-23-2009, 03:08 PM
I'm sad that you thought I really didn't know. I got me some book learnin damnit!I take Players' Corner questions very seriously.

AnticorRifling
10-23-2009, 03:11 PM
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Some Rogue
10-23-2009, 03:18 PM
I think the naked guy in the other thread could have used an anal bum cover tbh.