rofl

[crb]

The Cleric's Guild of Icemule Trace has received a brief message from Quiggan the tailor, a halfling who claims to be a relative of the recently-vanished Master Hierophant Haukragg. Quiggan will discuss the current situation in the Rift with any interested parties on the 8th of this month at around 10 o'clock in the evening (standard time), provided he arrives into the city on time. He has promised to reveal details of Haukragg's prior experiments that will be most useful in the current crisis.

As this information will surely be in the public interest, the meeting will occur just outside the Icemule Trace Cleric Guild grounds. Look for the frosted silver gate at the end of Koar Street and Cholen Lane in the Temple Burrow.

This message was originally posted in Towns, Announcements. To discuss the above follow the link below.

http://www.play.net/forums/messages.asp?forum=102&category=19&topic=1&message=258

Posted by Strathspey.



So, the supposed sorcerer guru posts for the first time in months, and it is about a cleric/rift release event.....

Can the PTB really be so clueless? I get the impression they'd just assume the entire profession go away. If this is something to do for clerics, I don't know, let Oscuro and Estild do it, they do quite fine helping clerics and empaths and releasing cool shit all the time. Strath works on alchemy, then he works on this, wtf.

If this is just a rift release and not a cleric release, still, find someone else. Like Oscuro and Estild again... empaths and clerics have gotten a shit ton of development lately, let those two build the new rift plane.

[Androidpk]

Sorcerer guru, lol...

Thanks for the good laugh.

[Parkbandit]

Why are players of warlocks, sorcerers, etc... So damn whiny?

Hey Virilneus... Maybe you should start a petition drive to save sorcerers like you did when you saved Gemstone!

I don't want to go too far out on a limb... But I imagine that a GM has more responsibilities in GS than just one profession.

[Sylvan Dreams]

This is just my opinion. I believe that there's little to no development in most areas of the game because it simply isn't necessary. As long as people keep their accounts open, the game is a "success" - ie, it's making money - so why do they "need" to sink more money into it? Especially when they can sell out expensive events like the Wavedancer, Foehn's Promise and Ebon Gate consistently.

How often have people posted on the official boards about how their account is still open but they don't play, and actually use the boards more than the game itself? What about the amount of people that don't post on the boards, that keep their accounts open and never log in (I knew a few of those a couple years ago).

[crb]

This is just my opinion. I believe that there's little to no development in most areas of the game because it simply isn't necessary. As long as people keep their accounts open, the game is a "success" - ie, it's making money - so why do they "need" to sink more money into it? Especially when they can sell out expensive events like the Wavedancer, Foehn's Promise and Ebon Gate consistently.

How often have people posted on the official boards about how their account is still open but they don't play, and actually use the boards more than the game itself? What about the amount of people that don't post on the boards, that keep their accounts open and never log in (I knew a few of those a couple years ago).

But that is just it.

A bunch of sorcerers HAVE cancelled their accounts recently. You'd think that'd do something to stop the inertia.

[crb]

Why are players of warlocks, sorcerers, etc... So damn whiny?

Hey Virilneus... Maybe you should start a petition drive to save sorcerers like you did when you saved Gemstone!

I don't want to go too far out on a limb... But I imagine that a GM has more responsibilities in GS than just one profession.

Actually first I'd do a petition to get rid off all x-players who post on a forum of a game they no longer play.

But thank you for your input, I'll take it under advisement.

[Xaerve]

I personally know 6 (long term players) sorcerers who have canceled in the last 4-5 months.

[AnticorRifling]

Actually first I'd do a petition to get rid off all x-players who post on a forum of a game they no longer play.

But thank you for your input, I'll take it under advisement. LOL Can you show me where it says "The GemStone IV Current Players' Corner"?

[Fallen]

I personally know 6 (long term players) sorcerers who have canceled in the last 4-5 months.

Heh, I signed back up for the EG auction, but plan on cancelling again afterwards. Still, another 200ish bucks in Simu's pockets isn't really going to help drive the message home. My bad. There are other sorcerers that left that I suspect will never return.

I took it the other way, Viril. I was just happy to see Strath post. That means he is still a somewhat active GM. He has stated implicitly that there will be No Sorcerer Development until AFTER the Elemental Lore Review has taken place. To expect any before now is frankly dumb. EG may have a few tasty items for sorcerers, hence my return. Other than that, we can shut up and take it, or just cancel your account until after Naos finishes his crap.

[Parkbandit]

Actually first I'd do a petition to get rid off all x-players who post on a forum of a game they no longer play.

But thank you for your input, I'll take it under advisement.

if that ever was implimented, this forum would be as dead and as boring as GS has become.

[Warriorbird]

You know something's up when Parkbandit and I start agreeing.

(Then again, I dunno if we've ever really disagreed regarding game stuff.)

[Sylvan Dreams]

But that is just it.

A bunch of sorcerers HAVE cancelled their accounts recently. You'd think that'd do something to stop the inertia.

How many of them are reopening their accounts for EG? Or for a playershop that for some inane reason they are worried about losing? Addicted players will always find an excuse to return to a game, no matter how lame it becomes.

[Parkbandit]

You know something's up when Parkbandit and I start agreeing.

(Then again, I dunno if we've ever really disagreed regarding game stuff.)

It's only your political views that make you dumb :P

[StrayRogue]

How many of them are reopening their accounts for EG? Or for a playershop that for some inane reason they are worried about losing? Addicted players will always find an excuse to return to a game, no matter how lame it becomes.

I'm sure the GM's are glad to see the back of that bunch of whining tards as well. Only one more idiot to get rid of now...

[crb]

if that ever was implimented, this forum would be as dead and as boring as GS has become.

Maybe you should make a petition.

[Fallen]

I'm sure the GM's are glad to see the back of that bunch of whining tards as well. Only one more idiot to get rid of now...


Don't you quit and come back a bunch as well? This really isn't an "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" scenario.

[Fallen]

How many of them are reopening their accounts for EG? Or for a playershop that for some inane reason they are worried about losing? Addicted players will always find an excuse to return to a game, no matter how lame it becomes.

Hey! I may be ugly and hatefilled, but..wait, what was that third thing again?

[Parkbandit]

Maybe you should make a petition.

I'm not delusional enough to think that if I created a petition, that I would change something as trivial as a game. That type of thinking takes massive amounts of misplaced self-importance...

Oh wait, I bet that hit a tad bit close to home, didn't it...

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showpost.php?p=502266&postcount=25

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e6/belike53/internet-soldier.jpg

[TheEschaton]

It's only your political views that make you dumb :P

PB's actually an awesome person to game with. I actually remember when he WAS a bandit in the park. ;)

[Some Rogue]

PB used to be an awesome person to game with.

Now he's just old and senile and his reaction time is slow and if you rely on him for heals, you're probably gonna die.

[Parkbandit]

PB's actually an awesome person to game with. I actually remember when he WAS a bandit in the park. ;)

Fuck off dirty hippie.

[AnticorRifling]

Fuck off dirty hippie.
Derp a derp I got a badge I'm steal da silvers derp a derp.

[Rimalon]

His posting of that announcement struck me as odd, too.

Only thing I thought of was that it's going to be a Rift area/Arcane Spell Circle dual-release, and that he's quietly finished lolNilven's work on that the past few months. That'd be a positive for Sorcerers, at least.

If not, well, Sorcs are still getting boned in the ass.

[Parkbandit]

Derp a derp I got a badge I'm steal da silvers derp a derp.

Hi! I'm Anticor and Haashak is my super fantastic Daddy!! Where is he I wonder.. I need to give him a super fantastic hug today!!!!!!

Derp a derp.. indeed.

[Sylvan Dreams]

Hey! I may be ugly and hatefilled, but..wait, what was that third thing again?

It was "obsessed with a crappy game."

<3

And you're not ugly.

[Fallen]

It was "obsessed with a crappy game."

<3

And you're not ugly.


http://www.geocities.com/simpsonshq2000/Pictures/characters/moe_angry.JPG

[crb]

I'm not delusional enough to think that if I created a petition, that I would change something as trivial as a game. That type of thinking takes massive amounts of misplaced self-importance...

Oh wait, I bet that hit a tad bit close to home, didn't it...

http://forum.gsplayers.com/showpost.php?p=502266&postcount=25

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e6/belike53/internet-soldier.jpg

You've posted this picture before. Time to find new funny.

[Parkbandit]

You've posted this picture before. Time to find new funny.

I've posted this picture many times.. as many times as you've been a self-important, pompous jackass.

It's not only meant to be funny.. it's a reminder of how utterly pathetic you sound.

Take a hint.

[Latrinsorm]

I get the impression they'd just assume the entire profession go away.I get the claims of Simu-incompetence, but it makes no sense to accuse them of actively wanting less people giving them money. It was stupid when some warrior was doing it during the III-4 switch (regarding the warrior profession), and it's stupid now.

[crb]

I've posted this picture many times.. as many times as you've been a self-important, pompous jackass.

It's not only meant to be funny.. it's a reminder of how utterly pathetic you sound.

Take a hint.

The lady doth protest too much.

[Parkbandit]

The lady doth protest too much.

OMG! That's hilarious!!! I see what you did there.. you had no where to go but to call me a girl!

Well done... very well done.

[Drew]

The ranger profession hasn't gotten anything for 5 years, but yet none of us are whining all the time for no good reason. Why are the player's of sorcerers such bitches?



EDIT: No offense to actual bitches like DieThx, Tisket, and Nikki. I like you guys.

[crb]

OMG! That's hilarious!!! I see what you did there.. you had no where to go but to call me a girl!

Well done... very well done.

I'm glad you appreciate my humor. It really was the perfect quote. Insulting on so many levels. For the intellectual, the original source material provides keen insight into your intense dislike for me, and for the low brow, I called you a girl! It works on two levels! HIGH FIVE!

[TheEschaton]

Rangers, lol, I could probably reactive my 70 ranger from 2006 and have the exact same character with no changes needed.

[crb]

The ranger profession hasn't gotten anything for 5 years, but yet none of us are whining all the time for no good reason. Why are the player's of sorcerers such bitches?



EDIT: No offense to actual bitches like DieThx, Tisket, and Nikki. I like you guys.

You guys got finished. There were a series of release events (HSN1, HSN2, RSN) where you guys got the most, and pretty much got finished. This was the time when Melissa had to apologize for forgetting to do anything for sorcerers. Resist nature, companions, assume aspect (I know it isn't popular, but it isn't vaporware), and nature's fury, the best CS spell in game. Plus numerous fixes and tweaks, including tons of CMANs and other physical combat fixes. then if you want to compare say, componentry for spells, well... there is no comparison.

Oh, and spiritual lore review.

[Warriorbird]

Sorcerors aren't that cool. Sadly, boo hoo, more of them have capped than several other professions. They're not unviable.

This doesn't sink in to some people. You're playing the pure equivalent of paladins.

[BriarFox]

You guys got finished. There were a series of release events (HSN1, HSN2, RSN) where you guys got the most, and pretty much got finished. This was the time when Melissa had to apologize for forgetting to do anything for sorcerers. Resist nature, companions, assume aspect (I know it isn't popular, but it isn't vaporware), and nature's fury, the best CS spell in game. Plus numerous fixes and tweaks, including tons of CMANs and other physical combat fixes. then if you want to compare say, componentry for spells, well... there is no comparison.

Oh, and spiritual lore review.


Rangers could at least use updates to 630 and 650. Turning 609 into a single-target CS spell after enough summoning lore would make a lot of sense, too. However, no one really seems to care about any of the comments rangers have made, and we don't make that many of them.

Frankly, I think the fact that rangers don't complain as much as sorcerers just goes back to the types of people who are drawn to each profession.

Edit: Oh, and I don't know what you mean by a ton of CMans. The ranger CMan list is terrible.

[Latrinsorm]

You guys got finished.What rubbish.There is no "finished" in Gemstone, just look at the evolution of the Empath professional circle.
Oh, and spiritual lore review.Here's what makes this especially hilarious: rangers and sorcerers obviously both have the 100 circle, PLUS rangers got zero professional spell adjustments to sorcerers' one (Curse).

As for the "tons" of CMANs, here is a comprehensive list of the maneuvers Rangers have access to that Sorcerers do not:

Charge, Combat Focus, Hamstring, Garrote, Shadow Mastery, Shield Bash, Side by Side, Sweep.

The number is eight.

[Stunseed]

Rangers don't get Charge. Sadface.

[Danical]

Rangers don't get Charge :D

[Stunseed]

Rangers don't get Charge :D

Bastard.

PS. I don't understand why there is so much bitching. You have multiple ways to make the Sorc profession powerful between Necro and Demon. Ask Droit, Nuadjha and the rest of the Rangers who have fought to get a low-level attack spell. We don't have the diversification.

[Morph]

SORCERERS ARE AWESOME

[Drew]

and nature's fury, the best CS spell in game.


Let me have a hearty LOL here. Maybe you got hit by an NPC with it and thought THAT WAS GREAT. In actuality it's pretty awful. 635 does damage based on the local area. That means in Icemule/Pinefar it does ice damage. Of all the critters around level 35 and up 20 of 24 are immune or resistant ice damage! So if you live in icemule, the spell is useless. In Fire Mages it does fire damage. Guess what doesn't hurt Fire Mages? In Illoke it does earth damage. Etc. etc. etc. The claim that it's the best CS spell in the game when you can hunt from 35 to cap and NEVER be able to use it is comical.

[Methais]

This is just my opinion. I believe that there's little to no development in most areas of the game because it simply isn't necessary. As long as people keep their accounts open, the game is a "success" - ie, it's making money - so why do they "need" to sink more money into it? Especially when they can sell out expensive events like the Wavedancer, Foehn's Promise and Ebon Gate consistently.

How often have people posted on the official boards about how their account is still open but they don't play, and actually use the boards more than the game itself? What about the amount of people that don't post on the boards, that keep their accounts open and never log in (I knew a few of those a couple years ago).

The first paragraph might make sense if Simu actually paid their GMs.

The second paragraph illustrates how overall lame the game has become.

[Stunseed]

< The claim that it's the best CS spell in the game when you can hunt from 35 to cap and NEVER be able to use it is comical. >

1030 > 635

PS. This argument hasn't changed in the last six months when CRB brought it up. It won't change when CRB brings it up six months from now. It is in my opinion that the Sorc profession has PLENTY, not that it doesn't want more. Problem is, when you have plenty, you want more. You can't have it all, though. :)

[Methais]

PS: Immolate is the best CS spell in the game (with lore).

[crb]

Here's what makes this especially hilarious: rangers and sorcerers obviously both have the 100 circle, PLUS rangers got zero professional spell adjustments to sorcerers' one (Curse).


I thought about that, but as I see it, it was 50% of your spells to 33% of ours.

[crb]

< The claim that it's the best CS spell in the game when you can hunt from 35 to cap and NEVER be able to use it is comical. >

1030 > 635

PS. This argument hasn't changed in the last six months when CRB brought it up. It won't change when CRB brings it up six months from now. It is in my opinion that the Sorc profession has PLENTY, not that it doesn't want more. Problem is, when you have plenty, you want more. You can't have it all, though. :)

So the bards, not the rangers, have the best CS spell in game, the other one is second best. Either way you're semi's and that probably shouldn't be the case.

And, we have plenty? Fewer implemented spells than any other pure. The highest training cost of any pure. The lowers ROI for lore training than any pure. The only pure profession without standard lore modifications for our main attack spells, 702 and 705, 720, 706, etc, etc still exist as if this was GS3, and 719 barely has any trappings of GS4 on it. A Guru that was MIA for 5 years. A history of lack of development and delays, has the product manager ever had to post an apology to any other profession for forgetting to do anything for them? Spells stolen for savants. The highest component load in the land. A unique CS penalty. Penalty (making us worst) at foraging, which thanks to our component load sucks, a penalty to alchemy cauldrons as well (shared with empaths). Of course then long standing unresolved bugs. edit: In addition to the highest training costs, we also have the fewest TPs. Yay poorly designed math formulas. The max for our profession is NOT 60/60, all things being equal we get fewer TPs for the same stats to train in more expensive skills. Fucked from both ends.



Let me have a hearty LOL here. Maybe you got hit by an NPC with it and thought THAT WAS GREAT. In actuality it's pretty awful. 635 does damage based on the local area. That means in Icemule/Pinefar it does ice damage. Of all the critters around level 35 and up 20 of 24 are immune or resistant ice damage! So if you live in icemule, the spell is useless. In Fire Mages it does fire damage. Guess what doesn't hurt Fire Mages? In Illoke it does earth damage. Etc. etc. etc. The claim that it's the best CS spell in the game when you can hunt from 35 to cap and NEVER be able to use it is comical.

Sounds like 719, which is ineffective on all non-magical creatures, and of course all magic resistant creatures. Of course, 730, which will fail on all of the critters you listed above as well. So maybe it is second best CS spell in game, whatever. Still, you've got it. I'd rather have it than 735, which doesn't exist. It isn't as if there aren't non-elemental creatures that you can fight out there either.

[crb]

Bastard.

PS. I don't understand why there is so much bitching. You have multiple ways to make the Sorc profession powerful between Necro and Demon. Ask Droit, Nuadjha and the rest of the Rangers who have fought to get a low-level attack spell. We don't have the diversification.

You're semis, not pures. And really, I don't think that anyone can deny that the GS4 conversion turned GS into Semi paradise with training changes. You guys can and do already hunt like pures at high levels, only with better armor and physical defenses, to keep the name "Semi" you should at least have to use weapons at lower levels.

[Allereli]

So glad I quit

[Parkbandit]

When crb posts about the miserable plight of the poor, poor sorcerers.. I see this:

http://www.foothill.edu/fa/idea/images/crying_boy.jpg

Seriously.. do you not see how you come across?

[Celephais]

Wizards and Bards can't get 60/60 either (infact no profession can, but I know what you're aiming at, AU being a prime stat). Sorcs are a hybrid pure, you have to accept some consessions, you're neither elemental nor spiritual, and if Empaths weren't the golden child, they too would be hybrid spiritual/mental.

GS as a whole has lacked development, sorcs have seen development and improvements, not as much as some other professions, but certainly not the least. I think the class that has the most right to complain would be rogues, hiding with groups is infeasible. It's absolutely absurd that that bug still exists. No class is currently unviable, so they should be working on bug fixes/rounding out classes, but with the state of dev in GS it's just a patience thing.. no need to piss and moan constantly.

[AnticorRifling]

As a sorc can you?

1) Hit the lvl cap
2) Hunt at cap

Yes and yes. It might be time for you to take your ball and go home.

[Drew]

Sounds like 719, which is ineffective on all non-magical creatures, and of course all magic resistant creatures. Of course, 730, which will fail on all of the critters you listed above as well. So maybe it is second best CS spell in game, whatever. Still, you've got it. I'd rather have it than 735, which doesn't exist. It isn't as if there aren't non-elemental creatures that you can fight out there either.


I'd rather have major ewave than 635 any day. Major ewave is a great spell. I barely have the CS to ward like level and if I can they are usually immune. Sorcerers have the VERY BEST maneuver spell in the game in implosion. They have the best transport spell in the game by leaps and bounds. They have the best utility spell with scroll infusion AND THEY CAN IMBED. How is that fair? Basically sorcerers have the best spells in the game, they aren't the best hunters because empaths get everything but they are a close second. I have to spend 15 minutes to fry in one hunt and I'm nearing cap. Most of the sorcerers I know can fry in a few pulses and if they hunt with implode they can fry in under two minutes.

[Celephais]

but but but! Impolosion yields no loot!

You forgot to mention the best encumberance reducing spell in the game. (but it's okay because he'll complain about not being able to enchant)

[zhelas]

This is just my opinion. I believe that there's little to no development in most areas of the game because it simply isn't necessary. As long as people keep their accounts open, the game is a "success" - ie, it's making money - so why do they "need" to sink more money into it? Especially when they can sell out expensive events like the Wavedancer, Foehn's Promise and Ebon Gate consistently.

How often have people posted on the official boards about how their account is still open but they don't play, and actually use the boards more than the game itself? What about the amount of people that don't post on the boards, that keep their accounts open and never log in (I knew a few of those a couple years ago).

This

[Fallen]

Sorcerers are certainly viable from level 0 to cap. Anyone that argues otherwise is either terribly deluded or just angling for sympathy. That being said, the profession certainly requires a healthy amount of DEV to bring them up to speed with a profession as excellently designed as Rangers, for instance.

The main problems with Sorcerers are their lack of a well implemented lore system, and a number of spells which are archaic to the point of being nearly useless. Two of our most important DD spells, Mana Disrupt (702) and Disintegrate (705), lack any lore based means (Or TP based means outside of increasing CS) to improve their performance. Maelstrom (710) is lackluster due to a lack of lore support as well. Cloak of Shadows (712) has a few CS/TD based bugs to be worked out, and needs its retribution features scaled to a lore based system. Nightmare (713) is nearly entirely useless. Curse (715), outside of dropping TD, is also a flawed spell. Disease (716) is nearly entirely useless. Minor Summoning (725) is a good spell that simply needs a bit more performance out of its lore based benefits to make it worthwhile. Animate Dead (730) is also a good spell, that again needs to have appropriate lore based benefits to make it worthwhile, along with the removal of a few longstanding bugs.

As you can see, the sorcerer lore review, which has been promised to us, will solve most of the sorcerer profession's shortcomings. The stuff about CS deficits and TP costs will never be solved. As Celephais says, that is the fate of the hybrid.

Wizards share many of the same problem as sorcerers. It will be fascinating to see how their lore review pans out. I believe their review will also come with several spell revisions to their universally useless spells like Spell Store, or Ice Patch. Honestly, the time for bitching about a lack of sorcery DEV isn't now. Strathspey was entirely, and refreshingly honest with us when he said there would be little to no Sorcery development until after the Elemental Lore review. So..that being said..why harp on the issue?

[Sylvan Dreams]

The first paragraph might make sense if Simu actually paid their GMs.

The second paragraph illustrates how overall lame the game has become.

GM's get money for their work. It's not a regular salary, or even an hourly wage, but they are compensated monetarily.

[Sylvan Dreams]

As a sorc can you?

1) Hit the lvl cap
2) Hunt at cap

Yes and yes. It might be time for you to take your ball and go home.

Does that mean that they should stop all dev period since all professions can hit the level cap and hunt at it?

[zhelas]

Truthfully if they would just fix the bugs in ALL professions. There is no reason why 10 year old bugs should exist today in any of the professions.

Oh why did I make a sorcerer 12 years ago? Because they are the most self sufficient class. Yep ZERO RP reason.

I didn't have to ask for spells.
I didn't die all that often.
I could hunt everything.
I could easily loot the non corporeal undead before they faded.

Took a 5 year absence from the game.

What has changed in my opinion? Not too much. The above still applies. My Sorcerer Rarely Dies. About the only thing that will kill him is a Maneuver, if i fail on crowd control or if I make any other stupid mistake. In my opinion that is the same with every class. Know you limitations.

125 - Zap my own boxes.
711 - Fantastic Spell with the right Necro training.
714 - Fantastic Spell
725 - I don't use it but ... it is what it is...
730 - Fun Spell inspite of a few bugs and the components.
740 - Fantastic Spell

Some of our spells just aren't as powerful as they used to be. Okay we have all seen Droit's post on mana costs. I can still Fry easily in Nelemar.

A Sorcerer is still one of the most self sufficient classes in the game.

[zhelas]

Wizards share many of the same problem as sorcerers. It will be fascinating to see how their lore review pans out. I believe their review will also come with several spell revisions to their universally useless spells like Spell Store, or Ice Patch. Honestly, the time for bitching about a lack of sorcery DEV isn't now. Strathspey was entirely, and refreshingly honest with us when he said there would be little to no Sorcery development until after the Elemental Lore review. So..that being said..why harp on the issue?

Well said

[TheWitch]

Hi, guys.
I got nothing else.
:)

[zhelas]

Hi, guys.
I got nothing else.
:)

Hey I miss your posts on the Officials!

Hope RL is treatig you well!

Peace

[Fallen]

Hi, guys.
I got nothing else.
:)

Heya R. If I nab a nice toy I will be sure to have E show it off to you once Naos/Strathspay gets off his duff.

[TheWitch]

Heya R. If I nab a nice toy I will be sure to have E show it off to you once Naos/Strathspay gets off his duff.

Probably just have to tell me about it here.

Hiya, Zhelas.

Can't say I'm not a little disappointed about the lack of traction on the bug fixes. As you say, E, Strat made it pretty clear no dev was going to happen, but I held out hope for some of the bugs to get cleaned up since that's not actually dev.

Anything new in .... alchemy?

Besides more of this? :club:

[Fallen]

Nothing new on any front since you left except for maybe the Armor changes. Other than that, very minor tweaks in general, new FWI, and the Rift area.

[zhelas]

The armor changes are pretty nice. Found a warrior to put piercing protection on my leathers.. helps against charge, spike thorn, tridents, arrows etc.

There was a new Bounty added. Bandits. Those pretty much stirred up a hornets nest. The are much easier now. However they are designed for groups. They do need some additional work since young ones still get attacked by capped bandits.

Rift area isn't formally released yet. The crawlers are Super Mega Roaters on Crack.

Obscuro keeps teasing us with snippits of Monks. More than likely the beginning of next year.

[Asha]

Frankly, I think the fact that rangers don't complain as much as sorcerers just goes back to the types of people who are drawn to each profession.
.

Please Christ don't let me seem to be defending CRB but I do have to say that most people who chose to be sorcerers did so to be the most devastating casting profession in the game. As the years went by Empaths pwned them out of the water and it makes me lol to hear the players of them telling sorcs to stfu and stop QQing when they just got nothing but buffs and sorcs are no longer anything like as awesome as they were.
That also explains why so many are capped.
They used to really be something.

Oh and they're still easymode incase anyone thinks I don't know that.

[crb]

As a sorc can you?

1) Hit the lvl cap
2) Hunt at cap

Yes and yes. It might be time for you to take your ball and go home.

Brilliant.

How long did it take for you to think that up?

[crb]

Please Christ don't let me seem to be defending CRB but I do have to say that most people who chose to be sorcerers did so to be the most devastating casting profession in the game. As the years went by Empaths pwned them out of the water and it makes me lol to hear the players of them telling sorcs to stfu and stop QQing when they just got nothing but buffs and sorcs are no longer anything like as awesome as they were.
That also explains why so many are capped.
They used to really be something.

Oh and they're still easymode incase anyone thinks I don't know that.

I chose sorcerers because I was tired on things turtling on my bard when hunting.

[crb]

[COLOR=black]Wizards share many of the same problem as sorcerers. It will be fascinating to see how their lore review pans out. I believe their review will also come with several spell revisions to their universally useless spells like Spell Store, or Ice Patch. Honestly, the time for bitching about a lack of sorcery DEV isn't now. Strathspey was entirely, and refreshingly honest with us when he said there would be little to no Sorcery development until after the Elemental Lore review. So..that being said..why harp on the issue?

Who is harping?

I post a thread called "ROFL" which means "Rolling on the floor laughing"

Then the penis envy crowd comes and starts bitching at me, and of course I'm not one to back down from a fight, because I'm not that type of person, especially when the facts, as expressed with simple arithmetic, are so compelling, and it is fun to get them all riled up letting me know how they think I'm just so very bad a person. The attention amuses me.

To go to the meat of your issue. No development has taken place, but also no discussion of any development has taken place. Furthermore, what elemental lore review? No updates on that either. If Strath is supposed to be doing the elore review, that isn't a Rift release event which is something CE, not DEV, GMs would normally handle.

So ya, I find him posting an update on a rift event as his first post since May to be funny. Hence the thread title. ROFL, not to be confused with DSRL, though they may sound similar, this thread has nothing to do with milk's favorite cookie.

[crb]

but but but! Impolosion yields no loot!

You forgot to mention the best encumberance reducing spell in the game. (but it's okay because he'll complain about not being able to enchant)

No loot is a big deal. Feel free to donate all your hunting loot to a sorcerer.

Implosion is also highly level dependent, highly level dependent. It sucks on like-level (because of bcs ranges) or uphunting, only underhunting is it good. Also, you tend to remember the one shot kills, but there are just as many 30 damage hits that do nothing.

But yes, it can one shot kill things that aren't immune to it (a good chunk of things) if you are underhunting. And exactly how quickly can a rogue from hiding fire an arrow into something's eye to kill it, without ever being seen or attacked? A rapidfire wizard kills things how quickly? I'd personally gladly trade implosion for 240, 515, 1030, etc

As for phase, yes, it is useful, with lore, but with our component requirements we need it. We're also the only pure profession without a native manuever defense enhancing spell. Selfcast phase was supposed to be one, but it got Nilven'd, and so has instead been RSN since 2002.

[crb]

One last thing Evarin



As you can see, the sorcerer lore review, which has been Ii]promised[/i] to us, will solve most of the sorcerer profession's shortcomings. The stuff about CS deficits and TP costs will never be solved. As Celephais says, that is the fate of the hybrid.


Trust but verify. This is not my first time at the prom. We've been promised things before. Melissa promised major demons would be the next big project after EN, and that wasn't merely a promise from some dev GM, that was a promise from the boss. It is nice to see how well it worked out for us.

[Fallen]

Strathspay isn't involved in the E-lore review (as far as I know). He simply stated the Sorcerer lore review would not take place until after the E-lore review.

[Kembal]

Probably just have to tell me about it here.

Hiya, Zhelas.

Can't say I'm not a little disappointed about the lack of traction on the bug fixes. As you say, E, Strat made it pretty clear no dev was going to happen, but I held out hope for some of the bugs to get cleaned up since that's not actually dev.

Anything new in .... alchemy?

Besides more of this? :club:

Looking like there's some new recipes coming along with the rift release, although it appears they may be cleric/empath only. We're not sure yet.

Think Rheisia would have fun with the new rift stuff though.

[nub]

Why do rangers sell for a whole lot more than Sorcerers if Sorcerers are the best utility profession in the game (I think that is what Drew said).

Is it because there are so many compared to rangers?

Isn't it like:
Wizard
Bard
Ranger
the rest

for how characters sell?

[Stunseed]

Bard
Wizard
Pick Profession
Sorc
Paladin

[Asha]

i love sorcery. I hate components. That is all.