Scripting infractions

[oneillseanm]

Do the staff ever nab players to check for AFK scripting these days? I've only read about it being done and have never had it happen to me. All I do is script and so I wonder why I haven't been pulled aside yet.

[WRoss]

haven't been caught?

[oneillseanm]

No. I haven't been scripting long though, only two months. I just came back two months ago from a four year break. I didn't script back then. It's all I do now, though.

[oneillseanm]

Five minutes after my original post and while running a hunting script I "tripped on something slippery" and fell "flat on my face." Never happened before. Was that a coincidence?

[Deathravin]

Depends... was there a ice patch in the room or were you in or around a glacier?

[Drevihyin]

Five minutes after my original post and while running a hunting script I "tripped on something slippery" and fell "flat on my face." Never happened before. Was that a coincidence?

Your marked now its only a matter of days before they come take you away.

[oneillseanm]

Depends... was there a ice patch in the room or were you in or around a glacier?
I was in the Snow Fort with Snow Spectres near Icemule. I've been there for a handful of days and never had that happen.

[phantasm]

I'm a GM. Thanks to the information you have provided in this thread, I was able to narrow down which character you were possibly playing. You have now confirmed it. Prepare for shitstorm.

[Drevihyin]

Scrippting for two months and still hunting Snow Spectures? I always thought scripts moved you along faster than that.

[oneillseanm]

I'm a GM. Thanks to the information you have provided in this thread, I was able to narrow down which character you were possibly playing. You have now confirmed it. Prepare for shitstorm.
I'd have gotten away with it, too, if it weren't for those pesky kids!

Scrippting for two months and still hunting Snow Spectures? I always thought scripts moved you along faster than that.

I've only been working on snow spectres for a few days. I started working with scripts two months ago. It's definitely been fast, though. The character in snow specters has come up to level 10 in a week, which seems alright.

[AnticorRifling]

Unless they changed it that's kind of slow. Granted when I was scripting up my alts I had two-three accounts sitting a table alt walks in Anticor spells him up, empath takes wounds (I was doing a spellup just enough to keep him alive but take some damage so the empath would learn, full spellup would have meant to healing xp), and rogue to open boxes that were dropped. While I never got caught I was never really "afk" I'd just be shooting the shit on AIM and watching TV while I had the screen up so I could see out of the corner of my eye if anything went stupid.

[Sylvan Dreams]

No. I haven't been scripting long though, only two months. I just came back two months ago from a four year break. I didn't script back then. It's all I do now, though.

Why even bother playing if you're just scripting all the time?

[oneillseanm]

That's the question I've been dealing with my GS playing since I came back. It's what caused me to pose the question in the Warcraft thread in this folder. I script through everything and hardly interact with anyone, save the healers that I ask for help (I've even been thinking about writing a script to ask for help, give thanks, and give tip). I enjoy watching the character grow, writing scripts, and figuring out how to tackle new hunting areas as I grow into them, but I don't know if that's enough of a draw to keep me in GS. The magic isn't there like it used to be.

[Monsoon]

Sounds like you should just write your own MUD.

[Sylvan Dreams]

That's the question I've been dealing with my GS playing since I came back. It's what caused me to pose the question in the Warcraft thread in this folder. I script through everything and hardly interact with anyone, save the healers that I ask for help (I've even been thinking about writing a script to ask for help, give thanks, and give tip). I enjoy watching the character grow, writing scripts, and figuring out how to tackle new hunting areas as I grow into them, but I don't know if that's enough of a draw to keep me in GS. The magic isn't there like it used to be.

Couldn't you get the same enjoyment (ie "watching the character grow, writing scripts, and figuring out how to tackle new hunting areas as I grow into them") from a console game?

Then again, who am I to talk? I like shopping for no real reason other than hoarding shit in game.

[landy]

There isn't quite as many GMs on staff nowadays to check for AFK scripters, but they do look once in a while. And they have their naughty lists for people who pop up on their radar.

[oneillseanm]

Couldn't you get the same enjoyment... from a console game?
That's another excellent question. I've thought about it from time to time. "Could I just play console games?"

I remember thinking about this once when a friend was playing Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind. The game looked incredible. I picked it up and found out that, sure enough, I loved it. Both the world and the character building system were amazing to me. After a short time, however, I found myself missing the knowledge that other people were behind the other characters I met and being disappointed that it wasn't an MMORPG.

Don't get me wrong, I love a good console game. I can sit in front of Chrono Trigger, Metal Gear, or Shadow of the Colossus all day long. There's an end to each of those games, though, that doesn't exist in MMORPGs, and, like I mentioned earlier, they lack the feel of community. Granted, I don't interact with the community much. I do get some sort of enjoyment out of seeing other characters backed by real people, though.

[RSR]

Pretend that there's other people behind the characters in a console game then.

-Richard.

[oneillseanm]

There isn't quite as many GMs on staff nowadays to check for AFK scripters, but they do look once in a while. And they have their naughty lists for people who pop up on their radar.
Thanks, landy. That gives me a good sense.

[Monsoon]

Doesn't make sense to me to pay to play a game only to script through it. Especially when it's a multiplayer game and you're anti-social. You aren't earning your progress. What exactly are you getting out of it?

[Nieninque]

Console games cause seizures.

[Joseph]

Doesn't make sense to me to pay to play a game only to script through it. Especially when it's a multiplayer game and you're anti-social. You aren't earning your progress. What exactly are you getting out of it?

There is a big difference between scripting thru and afk scripting. I think you are making the assumption here that he is afk scripting.

[Monsoon]

Sure, we all use scripts, but most of us use scripts to supplement the game. He makes it sound like he scripts everything.

[ElvenFury]

Sure, we all use scripts, but most of us use scripts to supplement the game. He makes it sound like he scripts everything.

Even if he does, what's wrong with him enjoying that? Writing scripts can be fun and challenging to some people. More so than the tedious grind of leveling up. Plus, some people get competitive about leveling, and knowing that they're doing it faster than everyone else can be a thrill. Those types of players tend to not last long, though.

[Monsoon]

But he's paying to do it, and if he cared about what other people think, he wouldn't be anti-social.

[ElvenFury]

But he's paying to do it, and if he cared about what other people think, he wouldn't be anti-social.

There's a difference between being buddy-buddy with someone and comparing your e-peen to theirs. Even to antisocial people, competing against real people is more validating than competing against npc characters in some console game. And once the thrill goes away for them they can run around being an asshat until they get booted. :shrug:

[oneillseanm]

Sure, we all use scripts, but most of us use scripts to supplement the game. He makes it sound like he scripts everything.
I think did in fact give the wrong impression. I don't afk script in a way that would totally remove me from enjoyment. I use scripts for travel, hunting at these low levels, and stuff like selling skins, gems, that sort of thing. After a few more levels, into the late teens, I usually change the way I use scripts with hunting and use them as a supplement to hunting instead of hunting itself. To sum up, I use scripts to eliminate some typing through grinding activities. Does that seem like the right way to use scripts?

[oneillseanm]

But he's paying to do it, and if he cared about what other people think, he wouldn't be anti-social.
I also think I went to far in painting an anti-social picture. I interact with people. When I said that I don't at all I was going too far. I talk to people if people are interested in talking and interact with people when I need to. When it comes to hunting I have more fun doing that alone, however.

[Monsoon]

That's how I use scripts. I never fully automate anything though, at least not beyond traveling.

[Latrinsorm]

Doesn't make sense to me to pay to play a game only to script through it. Especially when it's a multiplayer game and you're anti-social. You aren't earning your progress. What exactly are you getting out of it?How do you define "earning" in this context?

[Monsoon]

earn - acquire or deserve by one's efforts or actions
Eh?

So maybe he's earning coding props, but not the progress he's making. But he clarified his use of scripts, so it isn't as extreme.

[oneillseanm]

Monsoon - to me, your approach seems like a great way to approach the game. I definitely get enjoyment out of the game and still feel like I'm doing the playing. I just skip over some repetition in typing.

[oneillseanm]

By the way, thanks to whoever gave me this negative reputation comment:

"maybe because you don't talk to anyone and you seem like a tool"

I feel like I've made a quality contribution to this thread. I don't see why my comments make me a tool.

My reputation bars are red and I only started posting here a few weeks ago.

[Celephais]

REP IS WORTHLESS !!! ASLfoaisdgfoasdfosfsdafoiaed

anyway I get the most enjoyment out of seeing what I can automate in GS, I still interact with it, but if I can make my interaction a bit higher level, all the better.

Oh, and as for the whole "and he's paying to do it!" ... GS/WoW/Etc are drops in the bucket hobby wise (as Anticor likes to say). Set aside an entertainment budget, and spend from it on things that entertain you, which GS is clearly doing.

[Monsoon]

I use scripts because I'm super lazy. I have a script to open and close the containers I'm wearing. All three of them. I have scripts to sheath my weapon, pick up what I specify, and then place it into the container I specify. Really quick things that I've gotten really tired of typing.

That's a big difference between graphical MMOs and MUDs. So much god-damn typing. But MUDs offer several benefits that graphical MMOs don't. Typing ability, reading ability, and vocabulary. I can't tell you how many times I'd come across a word somewhere and know what it meant because of GemStone, or how many times a word I learned because of GemStone crept its way into my speech and astonished people around me. Even GRE words that I'm helping my girlfriend study.

Just last night I was helping her with her flashcards. I held up a notecard with feint written on it. She struggled with a way to remember its definition. I told her, "It's a fake, or something pretend, or like if I go to punch you, but don't, or jab you with the other fist. It's a fake-out."

[Latrinsorm]

Eh?

So maybe he's earning coding props, but not the progress he's making. But he clarified his use of scripts, so it isn't as extreme.If you type-hunt and he script-hunts, what do your actions have that make them more deserving?

[Monsoon]

The typing. Duh.

Again, in case you missed it, he clarified his use of scripts, so the post to which you're referring is null.

[oneillseanm]

Monsoon - I'm totally with you on the vocabulary thing. Gemstone and Magic gave me an incredible amount of words that I find myself relating to all the time like the words you found in the flash cards.

[Methais]

How do you define "earning" in this context?

Don't you know anything?

The only way to truly earn your progress in GS is to type in every command manually and intently watch the RT timer count down when doing RT inducing activities.

And just for clarification, when I said typing in every command, that includes all abbreviations. You must type things like SOUTH instead of S, etc.

Only then will you have truly earned your text status.

[Monsoon]

Yes! Full investment with both your attention and your keyboard!