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Kuyuk
09-20-2009, 09:52 PM
Alright, I already mentioned that I'm going through a divorce a while back.
I'm working in VT for another month, she's living at her parents house in the south.
In about Feb, we both decided to take summer jobs up north, me in VT, her in ME. She got done earlier, and returned down south.
Majority of our shit is at their house, in a storage shed behind their house. Her idea, not mine, I wanted a storage shed in ATL where we lived, but since we had to pay for it, and not her parents place.. it happened.
I bought a scooter last year [whee], it's in storage there. She called me a few weeks ago about selling it. When we discussed matters when she visited, we would use the cash to put a down payment on a car that is..more suitable for transporting our kid, so we each have a car. Now she just wants to split the cash and do whatever. The title is in my name for the scooter.
She wants to forge my signature to sell it.
I was the nice guy last night and told her to mail me all the paperwork filled out to sign and I'll mail it back, so it's legal, and so I cant use it against her if I wanted to. She freaked out and told me to just print out the paperwork and then call her for all the information to fill it out, and mail it down.
I'll interject and admit, I dont really want to sell the scooter yet, as I need a vehicle to find a job with when I move back down to ATL in a month.
I get a voicemail today when I Get off work, she tells me her parents no longer want the scooter on their property, and I need to find a way to remove it soon, as they thought it was only there until she sold it.
Mind you, it's been there since April, and I will be returning there in a month to get all my shit.
Pretty sure if she wanted to scrap it, or give it away, she could, as it's on her property. There's no way I can go get it, as it's a 18 hour one way trip.
Me getting fucked? Me thinks so.
Dont bother saying get a lawyer. I will get one when I return to atlanta. Every one I had a consult with here doesnt want to get involved with out of state shit, as they cant really do anything with it, so they only half-ass give information.
Thoughts, comments other than "ha-ha, and pwned"? :)
K.
Methais
09-20-2009, 09:57 PM
scooter
Thoughts, comments other than "ha-ha, and pwned"?
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/138/382919808_5278af93e7.jpg
RichardCranium
09-20-2009, 10:01 PM
Be glad you don't have children with her. I was making the same amount of money per hour as my ex, plus having a wife and three kids living with me and they still hit me for $600 a month. And that was when I was only making $12.50 an hour. I was working 40 hours, bringing home $240 a week and paying out $150 just in child support.
TheLastShamurai
09-20-2009, 10:04 PM
I bought a scooter last year [whee], it's in storage there. She called me a few weeks ago about selling it. When we discussed matters when she visited, we would use the cash to put a down payment on a car that is..more suitable for transporting our kid, so we each have a car.
Be glad you don't have children with her.
Apparently he does. Ah, kids, destroyer of lives.
RichardCranium
09-20-2009, 10:06 PM
Shit, I missed it. You're fucked.
Sylvan Dreams
09-20-2009, 10:11 PM
If the scooter is in the area where you used to live, couldn't you just call someone you know and ask them to pick it up for you? If you don't know anyone that knows how to drive a scooter, see if you can get it towed to a friend's place.
Kuyuk
09-20-2009, 10:18 PM
yeah, I know I'm fucked.
Currently the trade off is I pay the car and car insurance (~500/month) in lieu of child support.
Will be doing the fun legal shit when I get down there though.
Kuyuk
09-20-2009, 10:18 PM
scooter is 4 hours away from atlanta. one way.
K.
The Ponzzz
09-20-2009, 10:25 PM
The question you gotta ask yourself, is the scooter worth 36 hours on the road? From the sound of it, yes. But I do not know how badly you want it. This sounds how my ex is/was. Her parents most likely gave her the dialogue to present to you about it having to be off their property. Legally, you should have 72 hours to get to it.
If she's already starting up with stuff like this though. It's going to be a rough for awhile. I would start trying to get a good lawyer the sooner you can.
The Ponzzz
09-20-2009, 10:27 PM
yeah, I know I'm fucked.
Currently the trade off is I pay the car and car insurance (~500/month) in lieu of child support.
Will be doing the fun legal shit when I get down there though.
Get that in writing before hand, before she goes after you for back child support. It will never hold up in court, even with checks.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
09-20-2009, 10:35 PM
Be glad you don't have children with her. I was making the same amount of money per hour as my ex, plus having a wife and three kids living with me and they still hit me for $600 a month. And that was when I was only making $12.50 an hour. I was working 40 hours, bringing home $240 a week and paying out $150 just in child support.
I'm not a parent but personally $150 bucks a week for a single mom with 3 kids is destitute bound. Can't keep a job cause you can't afford babysitter/child care, can't afford the kids cause you can't get a job. Unless friends/family pitch in, you are fucked to a life of living paycheck to paycheck until the kids leave home.
I'm sure some people can do it, but that's a damn mountain to climb.
The Ponzzz
09-20-2009, 10:38 PM
Depends on the state. NY is 17% for one kid, 23ish% for 2. No clue for three. But without a lawyer, custody/child support judges can hit you hard.
Sylvan Dreams
09-20-2009, 11:22 PM
If you make the trip to get your scooter, get ALL of your other things as well, and put them in storage. It will avoid any future problems.
Lucos
09-20-2009, 11:24 PM
Where down south is the scooter? I live in the deep south. If it is close, I'll drive over there and pick that shit up and park it in front of my apartment for ya.
TheEschaton
09-21-2009, 12:00 AM
Pretty sure if she wanted to scrap it, or give it away, she could, as it's on her property. There's no way I can go get it, as it's a 18 hour one way trip.
Are you divorced yet? I don't know GA law, but if it's anywhere near property-friendly, she can't simply destroy/discard a) your legal property which b) resides on property you had reasonable access to, and technically still do until you are divorced (IE, your in-laws can't reasonably forbid you from accessing your stuff because they took it in in the first place), and c) will be removed in the foreseeable future.
Your in-laws, by allowing you to put the bike there in the first place, have become your bailees, and are responsible for the bike should anything happen to it, until the time you pick it up (or are legally forced to pick it up). I suppose they can go to court and ask that you remove all your property from their property, but being able to show you'll be there in a month to pick it up, and that they allowed the storage in the first place, I find it difficult to believe a court would demand you remove it sooner.
Since I am not a licensed attorney, none of this is construed as legal advice, nor should be considered to be. As always, consult a GA lawyer.
-TheE-
Jace Solo
09-21-2009, 12:53 AM
Ya, seriously, where in the south? I live 4 hours from ATL further south. I might not know you but I'm not gonna turn away someone who needs help in a situation like that.
Don't you have a lot of big, sharp knives?
AnticorRifling
09-21-2009, 07:56 AM
Find a buddy that lives close and have him pick it up.
Parkbandit
09-21-2009, 08:47 AM
Since I am not a licensed attorney, none of this is construed as legal advice, nor should be considered to be. As always, consult a GA lawyer.
-TheE-
Offtopic:
:rofl:
You sure SOUND like an attorney.
Do you really think it's necessary to post that anytime you give advice out on a public forum? I'm pretty sure if someone went to court and said "BUT TheE TOLD ME IT WAS OK!", the judge would laugh heartily in their face and give them a quick Internet 101 lesson.
On topic:
I think I found your scooter...
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e6/belike53/pink_scooter_wall_decor.jpg
Ker_Thwap
09-21-2009, 08:49 AM
I don't know how much this scooter is actually worth, but chances are you'll pay more in attorney's fees than the value of the scooter.
I gave up $84,000 in equity on a house that I'd spent a thousand hours rebuilding, got stuck with $13,000 of joint debt, ran up $12,0000 in attorneys fees just to get 50% legal and physical custody of my kids, and still have been paying $700-800 a month since 1998 for child support. I basically chose to pay out the nose to anchor the ex and my children in one spot, so I could have access to them. Family courts hate men.
I'd probably sign the scooter over myself. It's a relatively small dollar item, the money will probably benefit your kid, at least indirectly, and it shows goodwill on your part for when this finally gets in front of a judge. You're also getting free storage from the rest of your stuff, which has a certain value.
Try to hire an attorney for a flat fee and get the divorce over with as soon as possible. I have no idea what your goals are for child custody/child support payments, etc. It's possible that by moving out of state, you've already hurt your case. Hire an attorney really soon for some specific advice.
Kuyuk
09-21-2009, 09:14 AM
I'm willing to sell the scooter, just simply not willing to let her forge my signature on the paperwork for her to sell it.
I asked her to mail me the paperwork to sign and I'll mail it back, she can sell it, etc. She flipped and now just wants the scooter off property.
Scooter is worth ~1k-1300. It would be nice to either have or to have the money for a down payment for a car for me, as it was my ride when I get to ATL (dont need a car as I live on property here), so by selling it, and not using the money for a family friendly car, she's just screwing me.
She lives in BFE South Carolina.
also http://is.gumtree.com/ad_image/live/big/265830469.jpg
no, not my scooter, but it's similar to what it looks like, but it's all black.. with scrapes from someone ditching it.
Methais
09-21-2009, 09:26 AM
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Since I am not a licensed attorney, none of this is construed as legal advice, nor should be considered to be. As always, consult a GA lawyer.
-TheE-
Offtopic:
You sure SOUND like an attorney.
Do you really think it's necessary to post that anytime you give advice out on a public forum? I'm pretty sure if someone went to court and said "BUT TheE TOLD ME IT WAS OK!", the judge would laugh heartily in their face and give them a quick Internet 101 lesson.
Give him a break. It makes him feel important.
Suppa Hobbit Mage
09-21-2009, 10:06 AM
Since I am not a licensed attorney, none of this is construed as legal advice, nor should be considered to be. As always, consult a GA lawyer.
-TheE-
I could have been a licensed doctor.
Sean of the Thread
09-21-2009, 11:18 AM
Where exactly is it located in GA... I think you said south of ATL? I'm not that far a drive from GA and would be willing to go put it in storage for you for the price of gas minus what I owe you. Lemme know soon however. *I could only do it THIS Saturday or Sunday. If it's north of ATL 4 hours no go then.
And who doesn't like a road trip maybe I'll catch a football game somewhere along the way.
Tsa`ah
09-21-2009, 11:20 AM
The title of this thread is misleading ... the end result is disappointment.
TheEschaton
09-21-2009, 12:38 PM
He wanted to know what the situation was, I told him. It's not like he was like, I LOVE SCOOTERS! and I went into a diatrebe about property rights of fucking scooters.
And yeah, a lawyer will probably cost more than the scooter costs, but you probably have one for the divorce already, eh?
The Ponzzz
09-21-2009, 12:40 PM
Ah, the scooter is only worth 1k. I'd just hand it over. Get something in writing (even if she wants to forge, get something in writing). In the long run, $1,000 is not worth the wrath of an ex wife when you have kids with them.
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