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Sam
09-13-2009, 09:18 PM
ok, after prying the gap i'm getting a 30 second RT. I don't recall getting any RT (maybe 5 seconds) before my recent fixskills. I know i ditched some swimming ranks, but i think i got them all back (20).

but still..

[go2]>pry gap
[D100=89 Modified=163]
You work the blade into the gap and with a final burst of strength, a natural fault in the rocky bottom gives way. A huge air bubble emerges from the crack, enveloping you and sucking you through with a sickening *WOOSH*. You hear the stone slip back into place behind you.

After what seems like an eternity, you are spit out of a lava tub and on to dry, hopefully safe, land.
[Gorge, North Rim]
The gorge ends in a sheer cliff face here, but looking at it you notice that the phenomenon is clearly not natural. The cliff wall is blackened and fused together such that it forms a near glasslike face. The path that follows along the gorge leads directly up the cliff as though it once continued onward, and the floor of the gorge only contains a mere trickle of water where a raging river once flowed. You also see a rock ledge.
Obvious paths: southwest
Roundtime: 30 sec.


does everyone get this? was it just a bug for me that i wasn't getting it until last week?

ZeP
09-13-2009, 09:27 PM
I get different times with different characters. My rogue and rangers have almost no RT. The rogue might not get any. My paladin gets 30 seconds.

I figured it must be a profession/race thing but if you are right about yours changing after a fixskills then it must be based on skills.

For my guys they all have decent swimming ranks. Someone once suggested to me maybe edged weapon use helps but my rogue trains twohanded.

Sam
09-13-2009, 09:37 PM
well i just fixskilled from THW to Polearms, so i guess that probably is the difference. Do you have to use a short sword to pry the gap? Maybe i'll try a pilum or something.

The Ponzzz
09-13-2009, 09:38 PM
Pretty sure it's OHE training and PF ranks. But it's all vague.

ZeP
09-13-2009, 09:46 PM
well i just fixskilled from THW to Polearms, so i guess that probably is the difference. Do you have to use a short sword to pry the gap? Maybe i'll try a pilum or something.

If that is pretty much all you changed then maybe two handed may count like edged? There are edged twohanders. I think you might get a failure message with a polearm.

Sam
09-13-2009, 10:18 PM
Yeah. A pilum is the smallest polearm i think, and that wouldn't work. maybe if i get one OHE rank..

septus
09-13-2009, 11:11 PM
I've never gotten roundtime with my Paladin and he's strictly THW

Inspire
09-13-2009, 11:13 PM
I think it works well for shield users as well.

Gelston
09-13-2009, 11:20 PM
I've gotten up to 45 seconds on my pure. I've never been that concerned with the RT though.

SayGoodbye
09-14-2009, 10:36 PM
It's definitely related to OHE training. I have a 30 second rt with my ranged char and when I trained in a couple ranks of OHE it decreased a couple seconds. I dumped the OHE and now I'm back up to 30 seconds every time.

Liede
09-23-2009, 04:20 PM
Flamma has zero OHE as a polearm user and gets in with a short sword, zero RT, every time. she is fully 3x'ed in PT though.

BriarFox
09-23-2009, 04:22 PM
It's just melee weapon skills in general, I think. Pretty sure even brawling counts. Ranged and thrown don't.

ZeP
09-23-2009, 04:52 PM
It's just melee weapon skills in general, I think. Pretty sure even brawling counts. Ranged and thrown don't.

My paladin that gets 30 seconds is trained for blunt weapons

BriarFox
09-23-2009, 05:53 PM
My paladin that gets 30 seconds is trained for blunt weapons

Maybe edged weapons in general, since you pry?

ZeP
09-23-2009, 06:20 PM
Maybe edged weapons in general, since you pry?

Seems like that may be it.. any weapon training that covers any type of edged. Polearms apparently count according to Liede's post. EDIT: Hmm but the OP's initial problem was switching to polearms.. maybe those two need to compare skills.

The Ponzzz
09-23-2009, 07:28 PM
OHE is the PRY roll. PF is the RT. I thought I posted more depth after my original post. But that's it, tested it a few weeks back.

BriarFox
09-23-2009, 08:10 PM
OHE is the PRY roll. PF is the RT. I thought I posted more depth after my original post. But that's it, tested it a few weeks back.

Not sure about the PF part for RT. My ranger is 2x ranged, 2x PF (180 ranks), but still gets 20-30 seconds.

Inspire
09-23-2009, 08:23 PM
OHE is the PRY roll. PF is the RT. I thought I posted more depth after my original post. But that's it, tested it a few weeks back.

I'm pretty sure this is not correct.

The Ponzzz
09-23-2009, 08:40 PM
I had my bard try it, who uses a polearm. Using a short sword, he required a 40+ roll to make the pry and had 30 seconds RT. I then fixskilled him to be OHE, and noticed the roll needed was 10+, and at 10 ranks PF he got 30 seconds RT. Training him to a full 1x PF, the RT went to 20.

As a capped rogue, I have never received RT going in since I even hunted there back in the mid 40s.

Only other guess I would have outside those two skills, are stats. Oh, and race. Both my guys are humans.

Sam
10-05-2009, 01:34 PM
When I was getting the 30 second RT while trained in polearms, i still had like 2.5x PF.. Switching back to THW I only need to not fumble for the PRY roll, and I have no RT.. my PF has only increased by a couple of ranks since then, still not full 3X.. Could be the gnome factor.

The Ponzzz
10-05-2009, 01:46 PM
I dunno, seems weird. The two must tie into each other.