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droit
09-09-2009, 04:07 PM
For you spellcasters out there, how much mana do you average per kill? List what you're hunting, which spells you use and the approximate total mana it takes to kill your prey.

When I spell hunt, it usually takes between 16 and 32 mana per kill, depending on what I'm hunting. In OTF, one cast of 616 will kill any ithzir and if there are 3 or more in one room, a cast of 635 will clear everything out for even better mana efficiency. In the temple, it takes between 1 and 2 thorns to kill just about anything but GWEs. In warcamps, all grim orcs take 2 thorns, trolls take two only if i'm able to cast twice before they regenerate, and giants take 3 or even 4. I very infrequently crit kill grimswarm with 616, so I usually use archery as my primary attack in camps.

So to summarize, I use 16 mana per kill in OTF, probably about 24 mana per kill in the temple, and 32+ in warcamps.

zhelas
09-09-2009, 04:32 PM
Nelemar.
Zhelas' CS = 513

Depends really. On the creature and their TD.

For Executioners and Combatants:
708 to remove right arm. than either 4 casts of non channeled 702 or 3 casts of non channeled 705 (16 to 23 mana)

If their TDs are really low. I can dispatch them with 717 and still get loot and credit for bounties. (717 mana)

Sirens and Dissemblers: They are DC fodder. If one cast doesn't kill them with DC a follow up with 702 or 705 will finish them. (19 minus a random mana return plus a possible 2 to 5 mana.)

Radicals normally 3 casts of 711. (33 mana)

Water elementals and GWEs. The level 92 elementals 1 to two casts of FI. The GWEs. 1 to 6 casts of FI. There is no consistancy with FI. (16 to 96 mana)

Magus - Depends on the TD. High TD 715, two shots of 711 and one shot of 705 (42 mana)

Defenders - Two shots of 711 and one shot of 705 (26 mana)

Sentries - 703, 715, and 3 to 4 shots of 711 and a possible refresh of 703. If all else fails multiple FIs (If i am lucky 51 mana with loot)

Warcamps? ROFL....sorry I normally end up on the menu. Even if I am in a group.

OTF I don't hunt there that often but the spell costs are about the same.

zhelas
09-09-2009, 04:46 PM
Hunting with a Radical animate!

When i find a Radical with a TD of 432 to 435, I normally animate it.

33 to 44 mana to kill it.
30 mana to animate it
Fog to town
401, 406, 414, 101, 103, 107 spell buffs on the Radical

Then basically all corporal non undead creatures i spend 8 to 16 mana on them blowing off their limbs and i let the Radical kill them with an ebladed polearm.

For Defenders and Sentries please see previous post.

ZeP
09-09-2009, 04:49 PM
Pure wizard in the Skull Temple and Maaghara Tower.

5 mana for a 505 knockdown

4 to 12 mana for 1 to 3 casts of 904. That doesn't count outright misses due to the bolt being evaded though, so maybe I better say 1 to 4 casts of 904.

So that's just 9 mana if I manage to hit a death crittable area on the first 904cast. 21 if I keep hitting limbs and miss a bolt. This is on creatures with pathetic bolt DS, based on one trip to the aqueducts it looks like that average will be going up.

Swami71
09-09-2009, 04:49 PM
Copying Zhelas' format ;) Simple answer is 10-15 mana about.
Nelemar.
Siphere's CS = 535

Executioners: 10-15 mana, 2-3 casts of 705

Combatants: 15-17 mana, 3 casts of 705 or 717 if i want to risk the 10% chance of them running away.

Sirens and Dissemblers: 5-18? mana, they'll die instantly with 705 a good amount of the time for me usually 2 casts of 705 is the way I go. 719 Sirens die 95% of the time from 719 and dissemblers I would say 99.99%

Radicals: 15-25 mana, 719 on the third floor gets them 50% of the time, sometimes I have to follow with 705. 3 to 4 casts of 705 on the second floor.

Water elementals and GWEs: 14-17 mana if I'm lucky. The level 92 elementals 1 to two casts of FI. The GWEs. 1 to 6 casts of FI. There is no consistancy with FI. (16 to 96 mana) Same for me, but the little ones are almost always 1 cast

Magus - 15-20 mana 3 to 4 casts of 705

Defenders - 10-15 mana, 2-3 casts of 705 sometimes mixed with 702 if they're near death

Sentries - 18-23 mana usually, 703, and 3 to 4 shots of 705

Warcamps: I've never really solo'd a warcamp for a long time. I can get pures with 719 pretty good and squares with 720 since they don't carry much loot.

Lumi
09-09-2009, 08:51 PM
In the Rift, n'ecares take 1-2 casts of 1030 (10-20 mana).

In the Bowels, I occasionally kill jarls and elders with 1002. If that doesn't work, they take 1 more shot of 1030, infrequently 2 casts. So, anywhere from 2-24 mana.

GEE's are bitchtastic. They occasionally go down from one shot, but sometimes go up to 5 or even 6 casts once in a blue moon. On average, I'd say they take 4 casts (40 mana).

Earth elementals and krynches go down in 2 casts most of the time. Krynches more often go down in 1 and EE's more often in 3.

I haven't hunted Nelemar yet, so it's hard to say.

Rimalon
09-10-2009, 12:21 AM
25% of the time: 19 mana on an immolation instant-kill.
25% of the time: 19 mana on an immolation one-cast kill via crit.
25% of the time: 25 mana on an immolation cast followed by one cast of 906.
25% of the time: 31 mana on an immolation cast followed by two casts of 906 (usually on non-corp).

GWEs go down in three or four casts of 908, so that's 24 or 32.

Sentries are tricky for me at the moment, not being 3x spells, so it's usually three-four casts of 906, at 18 or 24 mana.

Everything else gets pwnnnnnnt as seen above.

Durgrimst
09-10-2009, 04:16 AM
25% of the time: 19 mana on an immolation instant-kill.
25% of the time: 19 mana on an immolation one-cast kill via crit.
25% of the time: 25 mana on an immolation cast followed by one cast of 906.
25% of the time: 31 mana on an immolation cast followed by two casts of 906 (usually on non-corp).

GWEs go down in three or four casts of 908, so that's 24 or 32.

Sentries are tricky for me at the moment, not being 3x spells, so it's usually three-four casts of 906, at 18 or 24 mana.

Everything else gets pwnnnnnnt as seen above.

I need to listen to you more and Droit less...

droit
09-10-2009, 04:29 AM
I need to listen to you more and Droit less...

Heresy!

Fallen
09-10-2009, 09:21 AM
Heresy!

Fire > Weeds.

Fallen
09-10-2009, 09:28 AM
Back in OTF with a CS of 514? (Been a while)

Mana costs on average are higher due to fading and crazy high armor hindrance. I didn't take this into account when coming up with the numbers. I also didn't take into account the amount of Major and Minor E-waves I toss around on average for crowd control.

19 - 26 mana for Ithzir Initiates, Adepts, Heralds, and Seers. Pop in one shot of 719. If not, follow with 705 until dead.

18 - 23 mana for Scouts and Jans. Yes, I bothered to kill them. I would try 409, which would often crit kill, but if after twice they are still alive I would just finish with 705.

19-96 for Griffins should I want to kill them quickly, which I usually do. FI is highly irratic in kills, especially on griffins. If not, then 26-34 using web bolt and Torment.

30 - 49 For Constructs on average as I just usually let my animate kill them after a cast of DC, or I will just keep them pinned with quake/e-wave.

DoctorUnne
09-12-2009, 01:56 AM
It takes me anywhere from 0 to 0 mana to ambush the brain.

Lumi
09-12-2009, 03:23 AM
It takes me anywhere from 0 to 0 mana to ambush the brain.

Hard RT? What's that? :D