Buying Marvel for 4 Billion

[Kuyuk]

Holy shit batman.


The Walt Disney Co. announced Monday that it has agreed to purchase comic book and action hero company Marvel Entertainment for about $4 billion.

The deal pairs a comic book publisher that just recently began to produce its own movies with one of the largest international media companies in the world.

"This is perfect from a strategic perspective," Disney Chief Executive Robert Iger told CNNMoney.com. "This treasure trove of over 5,000 characters offers Disney the ability to do what we do best."



http://money.cnn.com/2009/08/31/news/companies/disney_marvel/index.htm

[Celephais]

What the going price for cutting the nuts off of your childhood heroes? About 4 billion.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/01/business/media/01disney.html?hp

I hope everyone liked Ironman ... from now on, Pirates of the Caribean is about as edgy as it's going to get.
Way to sensationalize it. They're not going to F with the company and "Disneyfy it". Miramax was owned by Disney when they released Pulp Fiction.

[Danical]

Way to sensationalize it. They're not going to F with the company and "Disneyfy it". Miramax was owned by Disney when they released Pulp Fiction.

This.

Disney is about making the $$$. It is not going to have a crisis of conscience when they see green.

[StrayRogue]

Way to sensationalize it. They're not going to F with the company and "Disneyfy it". Miramax was owned by Disney when they released Pulp Fiction.

You don't know much about the film buisness if you think Disney didn't fuck with Miramax.

[Celephais]

You don't know much about the film buisness if you think Disney didn't fuck with Miramax.
I'm sure they'll fuck with it, but they're not going to make it about bunnies and rainbows (Fuck with it AND disnify being the key).

And no... I don't know much about the film buisness.

There are plenty of badass films that came out of miramax after being bought by Disney, no reason to yell the sky is falling and our precious Marvel Studios isn't going to make great movies like Elektra and Daredevil anymore.

[Tsa`ah]

Way to sensationalize it. They're not going to F with the company and "Disneyfy it". Miramax was owned by Disney when they released Pulp Fiction.

I wasn't very concerned when WB bought DC ... but I'm sorry, I think you're delusional here. While it's not like Marvel would ever put a movie that comes close to the material of Watchmen, and considering the Marvel movies have been pretty tame ... not thinking Disney won't mess with the brand is well ... gullible.

Disney didn't view Miramax (and yes they have enforced control in Miramax) as a "child's" product. Disney wants in on Marvel because of the "boy" demographic.

Like I said, watch PotC ... that's about as edgy as it's going to get from now on.

[StrayRogue]

The Weinsteins, being the monsters that they are, got a whole shitstorm of trouble from Disney, on a regular basis. Just because Pulp Fiction wasn't one of those particular instances, doesn't mean they didn't.

Remember Miramax started (and always were to an extent) as a distributor (and later creator) of low-budget, independent movies. A lot of these feature things hugely abhorrent to Disney's creative directors. I'm talking Alomdavar styled "arty porn", anti-Christian movies, and a whole host of other little films most people won't have heard of.

Disney knew Pulp would make money. They didn't like the bad press from stuff like Dogma.

The Weinsteins lost control when they sold. It's one of the reasons they quit.

[nub]

Which Marvel comic will be neutered because they are now owned by Disney?

[Stunseed]

Good luck getting Captain America assassinated with Disney running things.

[Methais]

"This treasure trove of over 5,000 characters offers Disney the ability to do what we do best."

Making things gay and promoting flamboyant homosexuality?

http://www.wildaboutmovies.com/images_7/JonasBrothersConcert3D.jpg

Maybe there will be a hidden cock in place of one of Wolverine's claws in his next movie or something.

[Latrinsorm]

Comic books were inherently Disney already. When was the last time someone died for real, for keeps, seriously this time, no take-backs?

[radamanthys]

This will do wonders for my Incredible Hulk/Little Mermaid slashfic webring.

[StrayRogue]

Comic books were inherently Disney already. When was the last time someone died for real, for keeps, seriously this time, no take-backs?

Captain America?

[Methais]

Comic books were inherently Disney already. When was the last time someone died for real, for keeps, seriously this time, no take-backs?

Jason Todd (2nd Robin I think) comes to mind. But that's DC and they don't sell out to assbangers like Disney. And it was in the 80s.

This was the best thing to ever happen to Disney:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ6kSe3fFlI

Shitty quality ftl.

[StrayRogue]

Jason Todd was cloned.

[Parkbandit]

Comic books were inherently Disney already. When was the last time someone died for real, for keeps, seriously this time, no take-backs?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dead_comic_book_characters

I would say August 2009.

[Tsa`ah]

Comic books were inherently Disney already. When was the last time someone died for real, for keeps, seriously this time, no take-backs?

Barry Allan, Lex Luthor, Aquaman, Azrael, Black Mask, Luthor jr, Clayface, Desaad, Hawkman, Hawkwoman, Hawkgirl, Firestorm, Martian Manhunter ... a few from DC.

Scarlet Witch, Antman, Uncle Ben, Betty Ross, Cap Marvel, Guardian, Corsair, Wasp, Harry and Norman Osborn, Nightcrawler, Gwen Stacey, Gambit, Dazzler, Bishop, Thunderbird, Banshee ... a few from Marvel.

[Latrinsorm]

Captain America?c.f. Captain America: Reborn.
I would say August 2009.Black Bolt - Spaceship's explosion in the last fights [sic] with Vulcan.

Because for a being to survive a spaceship explosion, it would have to be.... inhuman!!!

In five years it'll turn out "Black Bolt" was a Superskrull, or a time-traveler, or a wizard did it, or whatever. I challenge you to find a character of consequence who's actually stayed dead in the past ten years. Moira McTaggert, maybe?

[Latrinsorm]

Let's look at Tsa`ah's post:
Scarlet Witch, Harry and Norman Osborn, Nightcrawler, Gambit, Dazzler, BishopAll currently alive.
Antman,Who?
Uncle Ben, Cap Marvel, Gwen Stacey, ThunderbirdSo the last time was 30 years ago? 20?
Betty Ross,Frozen, not dead.
Guardian,That guy was a clone anyway, he doesn't count.
Corsair,Because if the Summers family is good at anything, it's staying dead.

I'll consider Wasp on a probationary status. Considering Banshee's kid married Jamie Madrox of all people, I'm guessing he'll be back.

[Celephais]

Considering I was in composition mode when Kuyuk made his post ... a little less than 3 minutes before this one. Also considering you can't spell "moron" ... you can probably suck a bull's dick while taking it from behind by a horse. That's probably going to be the biggest accomplishment of your entire life.
I don't think there's anything wrong w/ a 3 minute late repost ... your failure to realize what Moran is is ... well, for someone who is so dependant on google.. Moranic.

http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/n/U/moran.jpg

[Tsa`ah]

All currently alive.

Figures.


Who?

Doesn't matter ... he's dead.


So the last time was 30 years ago? 20?

Hey hey hey ! .... stop trying to make me out as an "old guy".


Frozen, not dead.

Eh?


That guy was a clone anyway, he doesn't count.

Well his clone died ... and then he died. Also another "Guardian" clone, not related, died in a Spiderman story line.


Because if the Summers family is good at anything, it's staying dead.

I'll consider Wasp on a probationary status. Considering Banshee's kid married Jamie Madrox of all people, I'm guessing he'll be back.

Death, largely, isn't permanent in comics ... but to say that characters don't stay dead is false. When was the last time you saw Kamikaze with his head?

[MrTastyHead]

I was really pissed for a second there when I saw Gambit was died. He was by far the most bad ass of the X-Men ever.

[Tsa`ah]

...[/IMG]

Did you say something? Never mind, it's just the same old same old attempting to be clever with the same old same old.

Go jerk off in the corner, it's probably a great deal more satisfying.

[Parkbandit]

In five years it'll turn out "Black Bolt" was a Superskrull, or a time-traveler, or a wizard did it, or whatever. I challenge you to find a character of consequence who's actually stayed dead in the past ten years. Moira McTaggert, maybe?

I didn't realize when you said "When was the last time someone died for real, for keeps, seriously this time, no take-backs?" that if there was a character that died, you could simply make up a future story to accompany your theory.

[Barundar]

If Jean Grey didn't constantly show up to get dead I would never know when things were super serial.

[Celephais]

Did you say something? Never mind, it's just the same old same old attempting to be clever with the same old same old.

Go jerk off in the corner, it's probably a great deal more satisfying.
No no, I was just giving you some info on someone else being clever. That other person had a pretty sweet comment. Too bad you couldn't figure it out.

... No thanks on jerking off in the corner though, middle of the room works fine.

[Latrinsorm]

I didn't realize when you said "When was the last time someone died for real, for keeps, seriously this time, no take-backs?" that if there was a character that died, you could simply make up a future story to accompany your theory.I hardly made it up, that's the whole point. As Tsa`ah's post illustrates, the only people who stay dead in comic books are minor characters or died 20+ years ago. Characters die in comic books all the time, obviously, that wasn't the point.

[StrayRogue]

Oh yeah, the ventriloquist was killed in the last few years. Azrael is also pretty much dead as well.

[Belnia]

Kingdom Hearts 3: Wolverine's Revenge

[Tsa`ah]

I hardly made it up, that's the whole point. As Tsa`ah's post illustrates, the only people who stay dead in comic books are minor characters or died 20+ years ago. Characters die in comic books all the time, obviously, that wasn't the point.

I'd hardly call Uncle Ben, Thunderbird, Cap Marvel, Craven ... and a slew of others "minor" characters.

[RSR]

Uncle Ben is akin to Batman's parents, Superman's planet. Important only in setting up the hero's origin. Thunderbird appeared in 1 comic before dying, hardly a major character. Thunderbird was brought back in the form of a younger brother wearing the same outfit and going by the same name until rechristening himself Warpath. Captain Marvel is back. Kraven has been brought back as well.

-Richard.

[Tsa`ah]

Uncle Ben is akin to Batman's parents, Superman's planet.

Integral and dead.


Thunderbird appeared in 1 comic before dying, hardly a major character. Eh ... you're missing 2 issues, 3 if you count the funeral ... a few "classic" tales, x-force -1


Thunderbird was brought back in the form of a younger brother wearing the same outfit and going by the same name until rechristening himself Warpath. But not John ... he's still dead.


Captain Marvel is back.

Son of a bitch ...


Kraven has been brought back as well.

And then he killed himself, and some where in between on of his sons became the Grim hunter ... and died, and the current incarnation is another son who also died.

And ya, that Guardian, both of them ... dead.

Yes, death in comics is a temporary condition that depends on the whims (good and bad) of the writers.

[Back]

Stan Lee is my hero. And one rich son of a bitch at that.

[Latrinsorm]

Uncle Ben is in the "20+ years" part of the disjunction. You know I love you, Uncle Ben, even if they got the President from the crappy second Escape movie to play you.

[RSR]

Uncle Ben is a character that exists almost exclusively in death in comics. He doesn't serve the same purpose as a living character. It's really apples and oranges.

Take another example. Abin Sur. If he lives, then Hal Jordan never becomes Green Lantern. These are characters that make the origin of the hero work only by being dead.

Existing characters that are permanently killed are few and far between. Bucky, Jason Todd, Barry Allen, Supergirl, Aquaman all at one time were supposed to be dead for good. All were brought back. Granted Bucky stayed dead for decades before Marvel brought him back.

The most recent major character (in mainstream marvel u/dcu) that I can think of is Karen Page in Daredevil.

Major character death is much more likely in smaller publishers like Dark Horse and the Vertigo imprint, and even Ultimate Marvel universe(granted deaths there just seems to be part of a house cleaning and relaunch of the line, so not really sure it counts as such). Roger the Homonculus in Hellboy is dead-dead. Prince Charming and Boy Blue in Fables are dead-dead.

Again, moot points in the grand scheme of what the impact of Disney acquiring Marvel however. Disney will allow stories to develop unless it conflicts with something they want to do in a movie or a TV show, then they'll step in much as Warner has done with DC.

-Richard.