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[Loyrl]

Do you guys still use this? How long would it last with one recharge from the avg? I think it was around 17k points for one recharge bump. Just wondering what others think on if its worth it or not. I would like to save my bounty points for another fix skill to sell...

My stats, and I also use surge rank 5 and armor support rank 4 with 49lb full plate.

Strength (STR): 100 (35) ... 100 (35)
Constitution (CON): 99 (39) ... 99 (39)


a polished leather belt :thanx:

[Sylvan Dreams]

I still use mine. I haven't charged it at all in a long, long, time (since sometime last year, but I don't play much), and it still has charges in it. I think it's a pretty nice item.

[Loyrl]

Oh, do you normally keep it on, or remove it and put it on before a hunt?

[Jayvn]

Leave it on man, each time you remove them i think they had a chance to deplete a charge or some shit.

[Loyrl]

Quit playing wow and working, and play with my bard damn it! Still only 18 lol... how is work going anyways?

[Izzy]

Leave it on man, each time you remove them i think they had a chance to deplete a charge or some shit.

The general consensus has been that removing enhancives dramatically increases longevity. While you are correct in that they have a chance to lose a charge when being removed, they also "tick" periodically while you wear them, also having a chance to drain a charge.

[Donquix]

The general consensus has been that removing enhancives dramatically increases longevity. While you are correct in that they have a chance to lose a charge when being removed, they also "tick" periodically while you wear them, also having a chance to drain a charge.

This.

If you're resting for a while (i.e. from a full/saturated mind down to clear) it will last longer if you take it off. 2 chances to deplete (wear/remove) < 10-15 minutes worth of chances of periodic depletion

[Sylvan Dreams]

What they said.

I have a script to put on all my enhancives and one to take them all off. They're all stored in their own container so they're never accidentally sold.

[DoctorUnne]

This.

If you're resting for a while (i.e. from a full/saturated mind down to clear) it will last longer if you take it off. 2 chances to deplete (wear/remove) < 10-15 minutes worth of chances of periodic depletion

Not even two. It's only when wearing.

[The Ponzzz]

What they said.

I have a script to put on all my enhancives and one to take them all off. They're all stored in their own container so they're never accidentally sold.

Yeah, mine go into a self locking container. I have .PUTE and .WEARE. But purely for a fashionista standpoint.

[Loyrl]

Thanks for the input, I'll have to step up the bounties on my bard (once Jayvn gets in game again....hint hint...) and use his bounty points.

[Morrff]

Enhancives DO NOT have a chance to draw a charge when removed unless the enhancive item is activated by holding it. You WILL however have a chance to drain the charge upon re wearing the enhancer.

If you idle often then I would suggest removing the item while planing to sit and idle. If you're power hunting then I would suggest leaving the item on until you plan to idle. If you're just doing hunt/clear/hunt/clear then the time tics will not be worth the chance to have a drain(tic) from re wearing the item in such a short time period.

What I would like to know however! Is the level of tier upon which the how many enhanced stats/skills you're wearing bumps time tics up to a shorter duration between each tic. And or if it's a rise in % chance of draining a charge, is it the hidden roll that needs to increase and if so by how much at which tier? Not sure if it's time related or just a higher % chance to drain a charge.

Basically need to know at which point the tier jumps per enhanced stats/skills.

Cylas
Player of many

[DoctorUnne]

Khariz tried both methods (remove after every hunt and keep on constantly) using cycles of hunt for a few minutes to fry and then rest for 10-15 minutes to clear and repeat and his enhancives lasted substantially longer using the remove after every hunt method.

I believe Zyllah also stated on the officials that you will get more life by removing and re-wearing on every hunt.

In my personal opinion I don't think it matters how long you idle/rest. As long as you're resting for more than a couple minutes it's worth it to take them off. I wouldn't be surprised if the % chance to drain when wearing was the same as the % chance to drain every minute or two or however long the tics are. I think the only reason they even made wearing it have a chance to drain a charge to prevent people from getting unlimited use out of enhancives by using them for specific brief tasks.

I have no data on leaving the enhancives on since that's not what I do, but to give you some idea, I have six enhancives that I wear/remove before and after every hunt. I've had a couple of them last for approximately six months without even draining to the next TIER of charges, let alone draining entirely (I monitor them regularly with a bard). And I hunt a LOT.

[droit]

I think people are vastly overestimating how often worn enhancives check for charge loss. Thanks to a merchant at CCF tellings us more info than he probably should have, we now have some numbers to work with. My Sunfist greaves from the last Winterfest, for example, have 40 charges. I've worn them constantly for 9 months, recharged them only twice and they still work. Even with an extraordinarily small chance of draining a charge, if it checked every couple minutes, there's no way it would last this long.

[DoctorUnne]

Well if that's the case then either the % chance to drain is different for wearing vs. periodic or it's not better to take your enhancives off after every hunt when in a hunt/rest mode.

If it's the former then it's still better to take them off.

If it's the latter then Khariz' experience doesn't make sense.

I think the % chance just really is that low. Zyllah's post on the officials said it was really low. I tried to find it but couldn't in 5 minutes of looking.

For example my CCF dachre still has more than your average giantman could count charges remaining. I have not recharged it. I wear it every time I hunt and I've gained 1.5 million experience since CCF. I have another enhancive I found around the same time that I also wear every time I hunt and it still has a lot of charges remaining. Also haven't recharged that one. I think it was at giantman when I found it which is the next tier.

[Donquix]

I think people are vastly overestimating how often worn enhancives check for charge loss. Thanks to a merchant at CCF tellings us more info than he probably should have, we now have some numbers to work with. My Sunfist greaves from the last Winterfest, for example, have 40 charges. I've worn them constantly for 9 months, recharged them only twice and they still work. Even with an extraordinarily small chance of draining a charge, if it checked every couple minutes, there's no way it would last this long.

I would be exceptionally surprised if they have their own timer, instead of being a system event tacked on to mana/exp pulses.

I think they do happen fairly often, it's just a really, really, really low percentage chance to happen.


Well if that's the case then either the % chance to drain is different for wearing vs. periodic or it's not better to take your enhancives off after every hunt when in a hunt/rest mode.

If it's the former then it's still better to take them off.

If it's the latter then Khariz' experience doesn't make sense.

I think the % chance just really is that low. Zyllah's post on the officials said it was really low. I tried to find it but couldn't in 5 minutes of looking.

For example my CCF dachre still has more than your average giantman could count charges remaining. I have not recharged it. I wear it every time I hunt and I've gained 1.5 million experience since CCF. I have another enhancive I found around the same time that I also wear every time I hunt and it still has a lot of charges remaining. Also haven't recharged that one. I think it was at giantman when I found it which is the next tier.

Not sure how that would conflict with khariz'...if i remember correctly he was charging his items, which had equal or fewer than 40 charges, once every 6 months.

1/6 < 2/9 (in fact if i also recall he stated when he DID wear them he had to charge them in about 3-4 months, putting him exactly on the same schedule as droit :))

[DoctorUnne]

Not sure how that would conflict with khariz'...if i remember correctly he was charging his items, which had equal or fewer than 40 charges, once every 6 months.

1/6 < 2/9 (in fact if i also recall he stated when he DID wear them he had to charge them in about 3-4 months, putting him exactly on the same schedule as droit :))

Sorry I wasn't talking about that statement. I don't dispute that. I was referring to the chance to drain a pulse being much longer than every minute or every two minutes.

Khariz said when he removed his enhancives after every hunt they lasted much longer than when he wore them continuously, and he was hunting and resting in 15 minute cycles. That wouldn't be consistent with the chance to drain a pulse while wearing an item being over a longer period of time - or Khariz would have been better off keeping them on. Unless the % chances are different...

Maybe it's like 0.1% or something. Then if it were every minute you would expect 1 charge drained every 1,000 minutes and 40 charges over the course of 40,000 minutes, or 667 hours. That's a long time.