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Inspire
08-24-2009, 10:27 PM
http://www.gsauctions.com/itemdetails.asp?auctionid=1B88BB8324094EEE92A1CD81 3407CC4A

Level: 100
Profession: Empath
Race: Halfling
Gender: Male
Stats: Race: Halfling Profession: Empath (shown as: Slayer)
Gender: Male Age: 28 Expr: 25271945 Level: 100

Strength (STR): 100 (10) ... 100 (10)
Constitution (CON): 100 (35) ... 100 (35)
Dexterity (DEX): 100 (40) ... 100 (40)
Agility (AGI): 100 (35) ... 100 (35)
Discipline (DIS): 100 (20) ... 100 (20)
Aura (AUR): 100 (20) ... 100 (20)
Logic (LOG): 89 (24) ... 89 (24)
Intuition (INT): 89 (29) ... 89 (29)
Wisdom (WIS): 100 (25) ... 100 (25)
Influence (INF): 100 (20) ... 100 (20)

Shield Use.........................| 201 101
Combat Maneuvers...................| 201 101
Brawling...........................| 201 101
Multi Opponent Combat..............| 201 101
Physical Fitness...................| 403 303
Dodging............................| 201 101
Arcane Symbols.....................| 201 101
Magic Item Use.....................| 201 101
Harness Power......................| 201 101
Mental Mana Control................| 302 202
Spirit Mana Control................| 302 202
Perception.........................| 302 202
Climbing...........................| 201 101
Swimming...........................| 201 101

Major Spirit.......................| 67
Minor Spirit.......................| 67
Empath.............................| 166

Unused Points:
Physical TPs: 1012
Guild: You have accumulated a total of 6000963 lifetime bounty points.

You have succeeded at the Kill Creatures task 1129 times.
You have succeeded at the Retrieve Heirloom task 1156 times.
You have succeeded at the Procure Skins task 1644 times.
You have succeeded at the Procure Gems task 1066 times.
You have succeeded at the Protect Traveller task 910 times and failed 32 times.
You have succeeded at the Procure Herbs task 1422 times.
You have succeeded at the Kill Dangerous Creature task 1138 times.
You have succeeded at the Rescue Child task 7 times.
Society: Master in the Council of Light

To use FIXSKILLS, you must type FIXSKILL CONFIRM within the next 30 seconds.
Notes: I am fairly certain this character is in the top 3 or 4 oldest characters in the game in terms of exp. Tons and tons of training points to use as you see fit. Character is being sold with a couple of attuned items and alterations. Nothing of significant value.

For more info or questions contact me:

onurb@aim.com
onurb on AIM


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Can you say INSANE killing machine, I really wish I had the cash.

waywardgs
08-24-2009, 10:38 PM
Damn.

Also- lol @
You have succeeded at the Kill Creatures task 1129 times.
You have succeeded at the Retrieve Heirloom task 1156 times.
You have succeeded at the Procure Skins task 1644 times.
You have succeeded at the Procure Gems task 1066 times.
You have succeeded at the Protect Traveller task 910 times and failed 32 times.
You have succeeded at the Procure Herbs task 1422 times.
You have succeeded at the Kill Dangerous Creature task 1138 times.
You have succeeded at the Rescue Child task 7 times.

inso
08-24-2009, 10:39 PM
25m xp and no lores or spell aiming = sadface

Soulpieced
08-24-2009, 10:41 PM
25m xp and no lores or spell aiming = sadface

The 1x dodge for an empath was probably an extraordinary amount of TPs.

inso
08-24-2009, 10:45 PM
Don't forget the MOC.

Bhuryn
08-24-2009, 10:49 PM
Unused Points:
Physical TPs: 1012

WRoss
08-24-2009, 11:54 PM
5,050,000 for the dodging
and roughly 3.37m for the MOC
So he spent all the EXP that it takes to cap just to get that much

Donquix
08-25-2009, 02:06 AM
the complete lack of lores is a little surprising though. But it's pretty incredible to think that, basically, it's an empath with nothing left to train except relatively cheap magic skills if you wanted to pick up from here instead of fixskilling. (not to mention the 1000 free ptps...jesus)

Swami71
08-25-2009, 02:41 AM
I think he was just hardcore GS3 and hated the new lores. His 202 MMC made his 1106 hit hard and 240 SMC would make a huge CS after 240 spirit slayer.

Fallen
08-25-2009, 08:17 AM
They just aren't needed. He churned through his hunting ground.

Beguiler
08-25-2009, 08:32 AM
::le sigh::

25++ mil exp... only 17+mil to go...

Fallen
08-25-2009, 08:38 AM
Few who actually enjoy the game for much beyond but the money it made them get that high, B.

Swami71
08-25-2009, 08:39 AM
They just aren't needed. He churned through his hunting ground.

Still would it kill him to get 50 transformation lore for faster healing and 1 more 1150 use per day. Or 150 summoning lore to boost 1115 Wither. He ran through OTF well but you need wither for undead in Nelemar and I assume bolt 111 and 1110 for GWE's.

Fallen
08-25-2009, 08:40 AM
He used 515 + 240 and mana/spirit batteries, and Shattered everything to death in seconds IIRC. There just wasn't a need to optimize at that point.

WRoss
08-25-2009, 01:37 PM
515 combined with 240 doesn't work, at least now. Maybe it did at one point.

Kitsun
08-25-2009, 01:47 PM
Plus his absurd ability to MOC a construct's shielding down and kill the anti-pures. I'm pretty sad to see him go.

Orp
08-25-2009, 02:52 PM
he is the best in the game, I have zero lores and pawn in Nelemar or otf...He is the best of the best, am very sad to see him go

Swami71
08-25-2009, 03:06 PM
he is the best in the game, I have zero lores and pawn in Nelemar or otf...He is the best of the best, am very sad to see him go

How do you kill GWE's?

Orp
08-25-2009, 03:10 PM
I swing as well am maxed in ohe with cmans am swinging 456

Xaerve
08-25-2009, 03:16 PM
One hell of a guy. I'm also a capped empath with 0 lores; I find them unnecessary for just pure hunting too.

Methais
08-25-2009, 03:33 PM
How do you kill GWE's?

Make them run out of HPs.

Swami71
08-25-2009, 03:37 PM
Make them run out of HPs.

I don't know much about empaths but I think that is there weakness is there spells don't hit everything. Hard to make them run out of HP if you can't even hit them.

Methais
08-25-2009, 03:43 PM
I don't know much about empaths but I think that is there weakness is there spells don't hit everything. Hard to make them run out of HP if you can't even hit them.

Either way, making a monster run out of HPs will always kill it. :club:

For what it's worth, I don't even bother with GWE's. Impossible to ward, and not worth the time and mana to bolt them to death.

I'd guess the best way for an empath is to bolt them down, but since this guy has no spell aim, he'll have to figure out some other way to make it run out of HPs.

That, or goatse them.

Swami71
08-25-2009, 03:49 PM
That, or goatse them.

:foshizzle:

Fallen
08-25-2009, 03:55 PM
Empaths can manage a pretty sick Melee AS. Said hunter used it as kitsun stated by blowing through constructs with fist scythes. I'm sure he could do the same to GWE's.

Swami71
08-25-2009, 04:04 PM
Empaths can manage a pretty sick Melee AS. Said hunter used it as kitsun stated by blowing through constructs with fist scythes. I'm sure he could do the same to GWE's.

Sitting in front of a contruct in RT is different then sitting in front of a GWE though. Mstriking on the second floor would be certain death.

Celephais
08-25-2009, 04:06 PM
If an Empath decided to forgo on CS entirely and only trained a few spells, can you get redux? I imagine an empath with this much exp could get some crazy redux.

It'd be a cool thing to try out (would obviously require training in some armor use too...)

Xaerve
08-25-2009, 04:12 PM
I have no problem with GWE, 240 & 1110 do the trick quickly.

Swami71
08-25-2009, 04:27 PM
I have no problem with GWE, 240 & 1110 do the trick quickly.

A capped halfing empath should be taking advantage of 1110 for sure. His setup was for OTF of course. But if he wanted to dominate Nelemar he should do 1110 and get a ton of mana.

StrayRogue
08-25-2009, 05:08 PM
Wow, awesome training. Wonder what sort of DS numbers he's seeing.

Danical
08-25-2009, 05:16 PM
He used 515 + 240 and mana/spirit batteries, and Shattered everything to death in seconds IIRC. There just wasn't a need to optimize at that point.

Right but if you don't have access to a mage slave then lores would be pretty helpful. I would have at least gotten manipulation lore for the insta-death even if it's only 5% per 100 ranks.

Fallen
08-25-2009, 05:58 PM
Sure, but he did, hence his training. I spoke with him a bit on it. He knew what he was doing.

Fallen
08-25-2009, 06:01 PM
If an Empath decided to forgo on CS entirely and only trained a few spells, can you get redux? I imagine an empath with this much exp could get some crazy redux.

It'd be a cool thing to try out (would obviously require training in some armor use too...)

The thing is you need the spell ranks to get the high melee AS, so a redux build wouldn't really work after a short while. However, Polepaths and Archerpaths certainly exist. Empaths will often go as high as chain based armors. Their hindrance tables are laughably low, and they can cast their primary circle through any injury.

Belnia
08-25-2009, 07:07 PM
I predict that empaths won't keep that monstrous melee AS forever. They're on par, or better than rangers in terms of raw AS while still getting crazy CS-based spells. The reason Empathic Focus and Intensity came about was the assumption that eventually empaths would lose Bravery and Heroism when they got Minor Mental. Now that plan is kaput, so something has to give.

Danical
08-25-2009, 08:13 PM
Sure, but he did, hence his training. I spoke with him a bit on it. He knew what he was doing.

I know he did; that's not the point.

The point is that the buyer probably won't, thus the suggestion for lores.

Fallen
08-26-2009, 08:30 AM
Ah, that wasn't clear from your first post in the thread. I got you now.


I would have at least gotten manipulation lore for the insta-death even if it's only 5% per 100 ranks.

Inspire
08-26-2009, 11:35 AM
I predict that empaths won't keep that monstrous melee AS forever. They're on par, or better than rangers in terms of raw AS while still getting crazy CS-based spells. The reason Empathic Focus and Intensity came about was the assumption that eventually empaths would lose Bravery and Heroism when they got Minor Mental. Now that plan is kaput, so something has to give.

I hope they spend time on something more imporant. How many empaths swing? Not very many.

Belnia
08-26-2009, 02:04 PM
I would contend that the swinging empath option is, among those who actually hunt and don't just sit around and heal, quite popular.

deadly
08-27-2009, 01:10 AM
how does manipulation lore actually work with bone shatter? any specific info on x amount of ranks = y% of instant deathcrit?

never noticed much difference between 0 and 50 ranks myself.

Drew
08-27-2009, 01:20 AM
What is a GWE?

Swami71
08-27-2009, 01:26 AM
What is a GWE?

Greater Water Elemental (~lvl 105) hardest critter in the game IMO. There located in nelemar temple on Teras.

Donquix
08-27-2009, 12:00 PM
how does manipulation lore actually work with bone shatter? any specific info on x amount of ranks = y% of instant deathcrit?

never noticed much difference between 0 and 50 ranks myself.

Someone just did some research on the officials and i wanna say they were fully trained at cap w/ manip lore and saw like 15% increase in instadeath?

something like that.

DoctorUnne
08-27-2009, 06:45 PM
Who is this anyway?

Inspire
08-27-2009, 07:16 PM
Who is this anyway?

Buy him and find out.

deadly
08-27-2009, 08:30 PM
does not sound like 15% is much of an increase for all that training points.

Kitsun
08-27-2009, 08:33 PM
15% chance of insta-death means you completely blow out a creature one in every 7 casts. Even if you just got a 101 endroll. That is pretty significant.

Danical
08-27-2009, 08:53 PM
15% chance of insta-death means you completely blow out a creature one in every 7 casts. Even if you just got a 101 endroll. That is pretty significant.

Absolutely.

Stunseed
08-27-2009, 09:13 PM
The sheer amount of mana conservation at that rate is sexy as hell.

Danical
08-27-2009, 09:14 PM
I wish to christ bards has access to a spell that would insta-kill. That seems like such a perfect use of post-cap TPs.

Izzy
08-27-2009, 10:21 PM
I wish to christ bards has access to a spell that would insta-kill. That seems like such a perfect use of post-cap TPs.

Er, how often is 1030 NOT an instant kill, exactly? :P

Yes, I realize you're referring to the non-warding margin dependent, if-you-hit-them-they-die kind, but regardless I don't think you get to complain. Or wish. However that works out.

Danical
08-27-2009, 10:30 PM
Grimswarm have ridiculous padding, about 30% of the time I don't crit kill them if it hits a vital location.

Then there's the times I don't hit a vital location. :(

Also, 1106 has two crits so it has 2x the chance to crit-kill compared to 1030.

Drew
08-27-2009, 10:34 PM
Greater Water Elemental (~lvl 105) hardest critter in the game IMO. There located in nelemar temple on Teras.

Danke.