Small Auction including 7x HCP MBP, 5x DCP FullPlate and 10x Katana flarin' katana

[IorakeWarhammer]

Hey all,

Small auction here. Please direct all bids and questions to drewm14@yahoo.com

NOTE: legacy item, full feature concealer "a dark crystal" for sale in high-end items thread for 600$ or 100m or best trade offer.

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7x HCP PLATE SOLD!
5x DCP PLATE SOLD ON A SWEET BUYOUT
10x KATANA: SOLD!
SHIELD: NO BID YET
WARAXE: NO BID YET
MAUL: NO BID YET

I am unable to check these boards regularly but I do check e-mail regularly. If you bid and no other bids come in by tomorrow at noon (9/14/2010), you won the auction. We can definitely meet (Wehnimer’s landing /Icemule only) and I can show you the item before you send payment. I am paypal verified with the above e-mail address.


some enormous black field-plate.

SOLD ON SWEET BUYOUT

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a graceful faenor crescent axe with a fern-carved maoral haft

an altered wickedly curved faenor waraxe. Weighs 3.

+8, Very Heavily Crit Weighted.

This thing crits ridiculously. It often hits harder than my +25 HCW handaxe.

MB 55$



spiked maul +12, +8 dex, +1 rank twohanded weapons

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Selling a fir-handled imflass-spiked maul

weighs 6

+12

+8 dexterity

+1 two handed weapons ranks

no clue what it's worth
Happy bidding!

[inso]

May want to note the katana is falchion based, rather than new-katana based.

Unless that got altered with the addition of the flares or something.

[Drew]

That would be a big disappointment if someone converted that.

[Stunseed]

It's in the title.

[Inspire]

It's in the title.

Ah, yep, there it is. Thanks, I thought it might be funky leather for a minute.

[IorakeWarhammer]

lil bump?

[IorakeWarhammer]

hey guys just wanted to let you know i am still in the lands. i am willing to negotiate a little on these prices so let me know if you need anythin. still direct e-mails to the address above. if you bid on some of the smaller end items in other auctions, you can have them for free for your trouble so just email me and we can set up a time to meet.

~Drew

[IorakeWarhammer]

bump added some items

[Mogonis]

Let me know when you're really desperate to get rid of the katana. :D

[IorakeWarhammer]

switched Deron to TWC, katana owns. hate to part with it really.

wife is pregnant, so putting them out there in case anyone REALLY wants them. i know the prices aren't ideal. but i paid more, trust me. wasn't much of a merchant when I acquired these items. I didn't get beat in the face, but didn't exactly get amazing deals either. most prices lowered 15% or more.

[IorakeWarhammer]

MB met on katana, pending pickup tonight

feel free to outbid :P

[Mogonis]

Eh. It's glaes, and electrical flares are unusable in Nelemar. And aren't steam flares one of the worst?

[IorakeWarhammer]

they work OK for me. let me tell you, that weapon is fucking legendary. it absolutely decimates stuff in the bowels. but again I'm an elf rogue so when I ambush things go poof.

the cool thing about the flares is when you swap from steam to lightning and the katana causes a crack of lightning. so the zests rock.

[allen]

e-mailed you

[IorakeWarhammer]

all bidding ends tomorrow at noon, bid of 120$ on the 5x plate and bid of 300$ on the katana.

[allen]

my bid on plate correct?

[Buckwheet]

Dude this is fucking shady. I PM you saying I will take the Katana for $275 and you reply with this:

paypal verified. we'll meet on aim and then once you send to drewm14@yahoo.com i'll drop it off to ya. i'm in wehnimers landing (deron) I'll eat the transfer fee for ya on my end. i have a good merchant history if you talk to Khistian, AestheticDeath, Mogonis, etc.

So because I told you I was at work and couldn't pick up until tonight you fucking take another bid? Thats a fucking buyout offer there that you accepted and where would I be now if I had sent you the money?

I also told you I have two bards that I just wanted to make sure they sung to it before I sent the cash and you said that was fine:

we can get a bard to check it before you transfer if you like. i've used it for a while. 10x, oldstyle (i'm trained in OHE), switchable flares, sweet alter. i might fuck around with trolling and being silly but not with merchanting heh.


What a fucking joke.

Bullshit sale is bullshit sale my friend.

[IorakeWarhammer]

i really didnt think anyone else would bid ;p

i think it would be mean if i didn't accept other bids man, come on. wouldn't THAT be shady?!

i'm not at all worried - anyone who has ever done business with me knows i'm good to work with

the original post says MB and not BO and that wasn't changed.

[Buckwheet]

i really didnt think anyone else would bid ;p

i think it would be mean if i didn't accept other bids man, come on. wouldn't THAT be shady?!

i'm not at all worried - anyone who has ever done business with me knows i'm good to work with

I hope they fucking withdraw. Shady motherfucker.

You're right it doesn't say BO. I sent you my offer and you accepted, plain and simple. Its in your own words, not mine.

[IorakeWarhammer]

;buries face in hands;

i failed.. to read my original post which said bidding ends in 3 days. i changed that (in light of your bid and on bids on other items) to tomorrow at noon just speed it up for you guys.

i failed.. to think someone else might actually bid. market has been.. bad to say the least?

i changed it to tomorrow at noon since you had already bid. please don't be that person that over-reacts over nothing. remember you are in the ..auctions.. thread. it's not exactly shady to change the plans slightly, when a new bid comes in.

i can tell you'd like to have it for 275$, but apparently someone is willing to pay more. so, you'll need to outbid them.

[Buckwheet]

<buries face in hands>

i failed.. to read my original post which said bidding ends in 3 days. i changed it to tomorrow at noon since you had already bid. please don't be that person that over-reacts over nothing. remember you are in the ..auctions.. thread.

Yes I was surprised you took the $275 as a buyout. Read your PM to me. You said we can do the exchange right now send me money.

I responded saying I can't do the exchange right now I am at work, I can hook up tonight pending it sings for 10x and has the flares. You agreed.

Does that sound like auction work to you? No, thats Hey $275, SOLD! Come get it!, I can't working, okay we can meet up later. It was a done deal and then you changed it.

You even admit you took it as a buyout thinking nobody else would bid.

I knew I never should have even considered buying from you, it went against my better judgement and I am paying the price now. Either way I am not over reacting, YOU said it was sold to me and I could pick it up. I didn't say hey $275 on your blade, and then expect it to be sold, but you came back saying it was sold.

Final edit: I even took my lunch break at a coffee shop so I could run my bard to the landing so we could do the trade this afternoon. I was minutes away from sending you the cash when I refreshed and saw you took another bid. You shouldn't be telling people to send you money if you don't actually plan on selling them the item.

[IorakeWarhammer]

i agree with you that i could have handled it better. i'm at work and i am thinking about my situation with my wife, etc. not in the most thoughtful and clear frame of mind. i am willing to give you 1m in Prime just for handling this in a shitty way, but be a little forgiving ok?! im a good guy. ;p

please do bid if you want the weapon. it owns and it's still worth well over 300$ in my opinion.

so worst case scenario, you can say: "gah, wanted it for 275$, but someone bid, IW didn't handle it well, but he gave me 1m for being a jackass."

best case scenario: "I'll bid 310$, get 1m out of it on top of that, and be a happy camper"

implausable scenario: "this guy always dealt with people in a good way, never had any problems with over 25 transactions, but suddenly he is a horrible, shady, evil man!!"

[Buckwheet]

No thanks, you can't just pay people off to make them go away.

Just to be official about it, I am withdrawing the offer, just so if the other bidder withdraws because of this you don't think I am going to come back for it.

If you were stand up about it you would have recognized the mistake was telling the other person it was still available and taking more money, instead of telling them hey unfortuantely I did tell this other guy it was sold and ready for pickup, so I gotta do the right thing.

Right thing - Sell to the person who you said it was sold to, for the price agreed upon.

Wrong thing - Screw the person you said it was sold to, and take more money that is now based on you fucking the original bidder over.

And no, I don't want to buy it for $275 if you have a change of heart.

[IorakeWarhammer]

Final edit: I even took my lunch break at a coffee shop so I could run my bard to the landing so we could do the trade this afternoon. I was minutes away from sending you the cash when I refreshed and saw you took another bid. You shouldn't be telling people to send you money if you don't actually plan on selling them the item.

i don't think anything would have been sent without you checking the item. that wouldn't make sense. and had you sent it i.. could have just sent it back. but again, 1m for your inconvenience is available.

[Mogonis]

If what Buckwheet says is true about discussing payment details, the katana is sold to him. It doesn't matter what he "bid." You essentially declared the katana sold to him.

[IorakeWarhammer]

i would have given it to him tonight assuming there were no other bids.

look at the other side of it - what if someone bid, and i said: "oh no, it's sold" and then they say "WTF? THIS IS AN AUCTION!! IT SAYS MB 275$ NOT BUYOUT!! U R SHADIEST EVER!!"

c what i did thar? heh..

goddamn it, why do people have to be so fucking difficult ;p

[Mogonis]

You don't get it. If you arranged payment details with Buckwheet, the katana is his to buy.

[IorakeWarhammer]

well, obviously i didn't anticipate a 2nd bid, got one, subsequently fucked up having already made some preliminary agreements, we disagreed and now his bid is retracted. i guess i epic fail at merchanting. but, everything is still available, etc etc. current bid for katana is 300$ unless something changes.

[Kitsun]

Whoever put the $300 bid should retract and rebid to get the $275 price since he doesn't have a reason to be topping out a nonexistant bid.

[IorakeWarhammer]

up to buyer.

[Buckwheet]

This is not bashing you, this is how I auction off items.

I put up an item for say 1m. Someone PMs me and says Hey I will offer you BO at the MB or at 1.5m.

If nobody else has sent in a bid yet, I am free to do what I want with that item. Say a friend says they want it I might just sell it to them lower than MB and do a BO at the same time. Hell I could even decide to pull the item.

Once someone bids however I stand by that person's bid until auction close.

[IorakeWarhammer]

here's the convo just let them decide for themselves:

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Originally Posted by Buckwheet
Let me know if you would come down to 40m on the Katana at $6 per so $240.

I got AIM or yahoo. My *********** his info *******

me:
paid 325$. the thing absolutely rocks, i love using it. just putting it out there in case somebody REALLY wanted it ^^

him:
Oh yeah, pending verification it is 10x and a falchion of course.

me:
we can get a bard to check it before you transfer if you like. i've used it for a while. 10x, oldstyle (i'm trained in OHE), switchable flares, sweet alter. i might fuck around with trolling and being silly but not with merchanting heh.
paypal verified. we'll meet on aim and then once you send to drewm14@yahoo.com i'll drop it off to ya. i'm in wehnimers landing (deron) I'll eat the transfer fee for ya on my end. i have a good merchant history if you talk to Khistian, AestheticDeath, Mogonis, etc.

him:
I am a bard, *his characters** I will bring one to the landing tonight and sing to it.

Thanks bro.
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big commitment there. c'mon buckwheet lighten up. to make such a stink over THAT convo is really bad. I never said "YOU WON!" just made arrangements should he have won. I don't see the big controversy but maybe I'm wrong.

[Buckwheet]

I am off to a meeting. If Mogonis was the second bidder, I would like to just chat with them briefly before it goes any further.

[Kitsun]

Way to be a complete dick and post up all his info.

[IorakeWarhammer]

@kitsun info edited out within 20 seconds. no desire to show his info. you are lightning fast though :)

mogonis is not the 2nd bidder, 2nd bidder asked me to keep them private but they are free to PM you.

[Mogonis]

Ha, I didn't bid. I've had almost a year to snatch it up. I don't want it. I hate flares, and I like glaes even less. Electrical flares can't be used in Nelemar, and I'm pretty sure steam flares suck.

I have two oldstyle katanas now, which is enough for me, at least until someone pops up with a shimmering steel or one of the other oldstyle katanas seemingly gone forever.

[IorakeWarhammer]

10x oldstyle katana guys, the thing DESTROYS everything in its path.

only reason i'm selling is that i prefer the shattered environment and wife is pregnant!!!!!!

[IorakeWarhammer]

Ha, I didn't bid. I've had almost a year to snatch it up. I don't want it. I hate flares, and I like glaes even less. Electrical flares can't be used in Nelemar, and I'm pretty sure steam flares suck.

I have two oldstyle katanas now, which is enough for me, at least until someone pops up with a shimmering steel or one of the other oldstyle katanas seemingly gone forever.

this isn't an item for a nelemar hunter. why would you take a 300$ weapon into nelemar that isn't bonded/returning.. ;p

i've had a minotaur warrior disarm it a few times in my 8 levels hunting there. was a pain in the ass getting it back. imagine a mino warrior mstriking you with 430 AS 4 times in a row.. with flares..

eek :)

[Mogonis]

I wouldn't.

[IorakeWarhammer]

yeah. disarm is always the drawback with weapons. but Deron never had an issue and i hunted sloppily without even training in disarm or cdef. just pulled out the backup weapon and cut the critter down.

the most fun i've had in GS with my rogue, i had after switching to TWC and using that katana / a 4x HCW handaxe.

[IorakeWarhammer]

plate sold on generous buyout offer

[stormcrow]

Nice. that 5x plate was my old armor and my alter. Glad to see it is still abouts.

[IorakeWarhammer]

it rocks man, incredible alter.

[Jarvan]

i would have given it to him tonight assuming there were no other bids.

look at the other side of it - what if someone bid, and i said: "oh no, it's sold" and then they say "WTF? THIS IS AN AUCTION!! IT SAYS MB 275$ NOT BUYOUT!! U R SHADIEST EVER!!"

c what i did thar? heh..

goddamn it, why do people have to be so fucking difficult ;p

LOL what a joke. When I sold my Axe for 150 mill I was offered more less then 5 min after I said sold to the first offer, and ALLOT more ( by 50 mill ) less then 30 min later. I hadn't gotten payment or given the item yet. By your reasoning, it would have been perfectly fine to tell the first guy sorry, someone offered more, you can offer more now too if you still want it.

Face it, it's a shady deal, plan and simple. You can claim something isn't sold sold till it's changed hands, but once you tell someone it's theirs, it's theirs.

[IorakeWarhammer]

never said sold. simply made arrangements for him to check it out should he win. he took that as it being sold. i should not have made those arrangements. i admitted that was a mistake and offered compensation. you can label it shady if you like, i really don't fucking care. i've never had a problem dealing with anyone until this small mixup which he blew out of proportion.

so.. bidding on it is at 300$ HOPEFULLY my mistake with Buckwheet and the subsequent unwarranted hype doesn't scare him off ;p

[Mogonis]

That's as good as sold. You just tainted your reputation as a merchant.

[Abilene]

the <...> hype doesn't scare him off ;p


Too late for that one.

[IorakeWarhammer]

yeah oh fucking noes what a horrible thing i have done accepting a bid on my auction!! in the AUCTION folder <wail in terrible agony>

the consequences will obviously never be the same again.

just face it Buckwheet wanted the item at lowest cost possible and hes butthurt i got another bid.

[Mogonis]

just face it Buckwheet wanted the item at lowest cost possible and hes butthurt i got another bid.
Or you face it that you're a slimeball.

You arranged for payment with Buckwheet for what he offered. The katana is his to buy. Period.

[IorakeWarhammer]

i jumped the gun by letting him know how it would work if he won the item. i never said SOLD. i never received or accepted any payments. we made plans in case he won. payment detail is in the original thread, its not like i revealed some magical payment arrangement secret that was never disclosed.

the game breaker was a bid i got that was unexpected. its in the auction folder. original thread CLEARLY STATES that bidding would take place. if i rejected the bid thats [i think slimier.] so its lesser of two evils?

let's continue beating this to death!

[Rinualdo]

Good thing you didn't do this shit with Thug Life. He would have capped 'yo ass, nigga.

[Mogonis]

You didn't have to say sold. He made an offer. You arranged for payment. That's an agreement for a sale. You never said if.


I PM you saying I will take the Katana for $275 and you reply with this:

paypal verified. we'll meet on aim and then once you send to drewm14@yahoo.com i'll drop it off to ya. i'm in wehnimers landing (deron) I'll eat the transfer fee for ya on my end. i have a good merchant history if you talk to Khistian, AestheticDeath, Mogonis, etc.

And you may now remove my name from the list.

[Buckwheet]

Yeah had a long meeting.

Its not worth the hassle to continue with this, but however we got there you provided me a email address to send you money before you knew I wasn't able to do the transaction right away. Which in most instances means the item is sold.

It wasn't sold apparently, and I think that once you found out you made an error it should have been your error to absorb.

I really do want the item, but it just left such a bad taste with me, that I would rather just purchase it from someone else later down the road when I get over being "butt hurt".

The fact that you see the error of your ways and continue to attack the person who potentially wanted to give you cash just also proves your worth as a merchant.

Good luck selling it, and good luck to the person who offered you $300. I hope they get it for the original $275.

[Mogonis]

NeJaeden5:03 PM
lol i was retarded earlier - my bad - would apologize to buckwheet if i could

heromogonis5:03 PM
why can't you?

NeJaeden5:03 PM
hes mad at me now
5:03 PM
dont have his SN
5:04 PM
well i documented myself as doing something dumb on the "merchant ratings" thread
5:04 PM
so i hope he sees i at least understand his point of view

[Abilene]

Yeah but you know, saying "at least I understand his point of view" is BS when you're adamently justifying why you did it.

[Buckwheet]

I guess that has been my point all along. I have never bid on something for silvers or cash where the person PMs you back and says "This is yours once I get payment." without the item being held as mine.

Regardless, good luck with the sale.

[IorakeWarhammer]

available now IM me at nejaeden

[IorakeWarhammer]

plate gone officially

[IorakeWarhammer]

the other bidder has been informed of his option to lower his bid to 275$ for the katana per Buckwheet's request.

[nub]

Buckwheet,

I saw you saying a couple times that you got screwed. How did you get fucked over or whatever it is you said. What did you have two weeks ago that you don't have today. Did Jaeden steal something from you? Or are you saying you got screwed because you didn't get something in the fashion you thought you were getting.

Now I'm not saying Jaeden is in the right, because yeah he shouldn't have asked for your paypal stuff.

But nothing bad happened to you. I think you will be alright.

[IorakeWarhammer]

note - i didnt ask him for anything, i gave him the email address that was in the original post

[Buckwheet]

You really don't know when to drop something do you?

Not like you care, which is the saddest part about this, but now I to get to add you as the only person in my ignore list. You told me to send you money in a manor that suggested had I done it minutes after getting your PM the item would be mine now. If I hadn't been at work, and hadn't insisted on having a bard sing to this item, I read your PM as "send me money and once I get it we can drop this off."

But I have already stated that several times, and you have already acknowledged it, AND you felt you needed to self post about it in the merchant feedback folder.

My reputation as a member of this community stands on its own, my in game reputation as a merchant also stands on its own.

You talk about how much of a good guy you are, and how much your trolling on the forum doesn't correlate to your merchant reputation, but here you are continuing to trash talk the person who wanted to buy something from you, who you readily admit was a flop, and you just can't "be a good guy" and stand there and admit you made a poor decision. You constantly have to back track and point out that you did not do anything wrong.

And to Nub, its the principal of the deal, and based on feedback comments and others posting in this thread, I am not alone in this sentiment.

So here it is again, go on about your business. I am not going to bad mouth you to others, I am not going to troll the hell out of your sales threads, this issue was strictly about business ethics and trust and you didn't meet my expectations on either. The faster you stop defending your actions and accept that you fucked up the better off you are going to be.

[IorakeWarhammer]

Nub brought it up lol

[Archigeek]

I've got no skin in this arguement, but whenever I do a deal there is no vagueness at the end about whether or not we've reached a deal. Agreeing on a price is not the same as agreeing on a sale. I think IW was skirting closing the deal, but no one said, "so we have a deal at x$?" And no one said, "yes, we have a deal." When I want to make sure I don't get screwed, I make sure there's no doubt about whether or not there's a deal that's done.

You can't complain too much about losing out on a deal when you didn't do just that. I understand how you felt about it, but unless you say, "do we have a deal?" and they say "yes" a lot of people are still going to view the item as in play. You can't expect the seller to take his item off the market if you aren't willing to be explicit in stating that you will take the item for the agreed upon price and asking if it's a done deal.

On the other hand, we've all gotten better offers after we've sold something. Sometimes it just sucks, but your integrity is worth more than the price delta. So just as the buyer should be explicit, so should the seller. Vague answers are clear indications that you're still shopping the item around.

[IorakeWarhammer]

katana sold