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StrayRogue
08-15-2009, 08:40 AM
All unofficial, but sounds awesome: http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=92919.0

World of Warcraft: Cataclysm

World of Warcraft: Cataclysm is the next expansion for World of Warcraft. Dark and forgotten threats that have long stayed out of sight have finally arrived on our shores, unleashing a cataclysmic event upon Azeroth and now preparing more nefarius plans to take it back.

Level Cap
The level cap in the next expansion will be slightly lower than expected this time around; 85.

This suggests Blizzard wants more room for expansions before hitting the level 100 cap. With less leveling to do (along with the revamped leveling listed below likely to increase the speed and ease of leveling), leveling a new race remains appealing for new and existing players alike.

Leveling from 80-85 should be a much bigger deal, the idea is to make sure that gaining a level really means something and doesn't make you feel like you just have 4 more levels to go.

New Classes
Cataclysm doesn't introduce any new classes to the game. Instead, Blizzard have offered more race and classes combinations to players. The Some of these have alreadly been datamined from the 3.2.2 Test Realms. The An Injured Colleague quest and it's new Night Elf counter-part help to introduce the lore for these new race and class combinations, so we can probably expect to see more of these for some of the less traditional ones.

* Human Hunter
* Orc Mage
* Night Elf Mage
* Dwarf Mage
* Blood Elf Warrior
* Dwarf Shaman
* Undead Hunter
* Tauren Paladin
* Tauren Priest
* Gnome Priest
* Troll Druid



New Races
The events of the cataclysm has caused two new races to seek new allies. The Goblins for the Horde and the Worgen for the Alliance.

Goblins
Deathwing once again sought the services of the goblins, as slaves. Unable to refuse such an offer, the goblins were enslaved by him. A large group have resisted however. With their previous homes devastated by the cataclysm, they escaping to an island off the coast of The Barrens. As they strive to recover, they come across an Orc captured on an Alliance ship and rescue him. The Orc turns out to be none other than Thrall himself, and in return offers the Goblins a place within the Horde. These events are carried out in a quest line, allowing players to experience first-hand the reasons behind the Goblins' shift from neutrality.

Worgen
The cataclysm has cracked open the Greymane Wall, finally revealing what has happened to the kingdom of Gilneas and its citizens. With the Worgen curse taken hold, they have found a partial cure, allowing thme to retain their Human minds even when transformed. Venturing forth from Gilneas and seeking help from the Alliance, they have decided to join them, to combat the new threats of Cataclysm.

Gilneas will make extensive use of the phasing system (much like the Death Knight starting area), to show what happened while the kingdom was cut off from the rest of the world and lead up to present day.

Worgens will have two forms, a Worgen form and a Human form. Players will be able to customise the look of both forms.

New Content
Cataclysm will be the first expansion not to introduce a new continent, instead making use of previously unreleased zones and revamping existing ones.

Classic Azeroth Revamp
A cataclysmic event caused by Deathwing and Azshara will change the face of Azeroth as we know it. Most of the new content for Cataclysm will take the form of a revamped Azeroth, taking advantage of newer additions to WoW such as phasing and daily quests. Most of the quests and mobs in the classic zones will also be redesigned to make leveling less painful. With the revamp, a greater narritive and sense progression will be offered to players. Some zones and dungeons will change drastically to fit this, e.g.,

* The Barrens will be split into two separate zones of two different level bands.
* Azshara will become a low level (~10-20) zone.
* Some of the zones like the Thousand Needles will be flooded.
* Durotar is wrecked and apparently Orgrimmar could be destroyed. A new Orc city is rebuilt over the course of the expansion.
* Gnomeregan will be part of the expansion as well and gnomes might be able to reclaim their capital. (The last part is still unconfirmed)
* Wailing Caverns will be become a lush tropical area as a result of the druid's magic.
* The Blackrock Spire will erupt and a new version of Blackrock Mountains will be available, apparently Ragnaros will be back too.


In the aftermath of the cataclysm, and the new conflicts on the horizon relief efforts can be found in many zones and new open PvP areas similar to Lake Wintergrasp.

Flying in Azeroth
Part of the redesign of the Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor is the introduction of flying to the two continents, allowing access to many new areas and quicker travelling across the large continents.

Classic Dungeon Revamp
Redesigning Onyxia's Lair in Patch 3.2.2 was just the first step. As most of the leveling will take place in revamped areas of Azeroth, so too will the dungeons, allowing players to use them to level from 80 to 85.

Unreleased Zones & Dungeons
With the addition of flying mounts to Kalimdor and the Eastern Kingdoms and the redesign of many zones, most of the previously unreachable or incomplete zones will now be made available to players. This is where most of the new content from 80 to 85 will take place. Some of these are,

* Hyjal (present)
* Gilneas - The Worgen starting Zone.
* Uldum


It is unclear if the old Goblin locations such as Kezan and Undermine will be included in Cataclyms with the revelation of the goblins' plight, but several new islands have also been risen from the seas by the events of Cataclysm, some on the backs of giant sea turtles and whales, with the addition of several underwater zones.

Characters and Events

Deathwing
Deathwing the Destroyer / Neltharion the Earth-Warder will play a major role in Cataclysm. Having been driven mad by Old God whisperings and turning against his own kind only to be fail in his attempts, Deathwing has sunk into the shadows. While the Horde and the Alliance were busy fighting back the Burning Legion only to then be beset with the Scourge, he has been lurking and moving things into place. After Lady Sinestra's failed attempts to create a Twilight Dragonflight, he again retreated to Grim Batol and succeeded where she failed. With his results seen in the Obsidian Sanctum, he has finally created the supreme Dragonflight he sought and plans to unleash it upon the world. But what of the Old Gods' sway over him?

Azshara
Queen Azshara will also play a major part in Cataclysm. Unknown to many mortal races, long forgotten by others, and believe to be dead by her own kind, she has not been dormant in depths of the Maelstrom. Having those around her transformed by the Old Gods into Naga after her failure in the War of the Ancients, she has become far more powerful and a greater threat than she once was. Not content with just Nazjatar and the depths of the sea, Azshara seeks to reclaim power and reign once again. With the true plan behind Lady Vashj's support of Illidan remaining a mystery we do not know what hand Azshara has yet played. The big question remains, is she now serving her "saviors", the Old Gods?

The Cataclysm
I'm still not sure who is the true end boss of Cataclysm is, but the cataclysm appears to have been caused by attempts to incantation to summon extremely powerful beings using an ancient incantation by Deathwing and Azshara. They're both very powerful, but the cataclysm itself suggests something more powerful is behind it, perhaps their shared past of Old God influence?

The Guardian of Tirisfal
Malfurion Stormrage will be returning to Azeroth to aid in the creation of the new Guardian of Tirisfal - Thrall! Med'an's role in these events is currently unknown.

The New (New) Horde
Thrall will hand over the leadership of the Horde to Garrosh Hellscream, while he serves as a coordinator for both the Horde and Alliance forces in and effort to combat the new threat of the Naga and Black Dragonflight. Without Thrall to keep Garrosh in check, he declares open war on the Alliance. In the political upheaval Cairne Bloodhoof is implicated as a traitor to the Horde and murdered by Garrosh. Cairne's son Baine takes over as the new Tauren chieftan. This could explain why Baine was removed from the game in Patch 3.2.2, you can find more information about this in Ahmo Thunderhorn - replacement for Baine Bloodhoof?




Sounds pretty good. The old skool zones needed a revamp.

I MAY even reactivate to have a look.

Lord Orbstar
08-15-2009, 10:10 AM
That does sound nice. Thanks for the posting. +1 REP for j00

Some Rogue
08-15-2009, 10:26 AM
Garrosh as warchief? Cairne murdered? Ugh.

Baine would be fine becoming Tauren Chieftain and staying in the Horde after Garrosh murders his father?

Some of that just doesn't sound right.

Donquix
08-15-2009, 10:27 AM
No gnome hunters.

Don't care.

AnticorRifling
08-15-2009, 10:30 AM
Alliance will bitch that we get two choices for druid race and they don't.

Insodus
08-15-2009, 10:33 AM
Did you learn nothing from the last expansion? There were so many fake expansion announcements it was ridiculous.

Until its on worldofwarcraft.com it aint real.

RichardCranium
08-15-2009, 10:33 AM
I always wondered why humans couldn't be hunters.

Donquix
08-15-2009, 12:59 PM
Alliance will bitch that we get two choices for druid race and they don't.

probally, but they got gnome priests that they were bitching about forever.

Honestly, they've dicked so much of the lore already i don't see why they just don't get rid of race/class restrictions completely. Not that i was ever a lore nazi, far rom it..i never got into the warcraft story really, but that was always their excuse and it's already so compromised might as well just let people make what they want and have fun.

Although if they allow gnome hunters i'd have to level another hunter to 80(5). boo :(

AnticorRifling
08-16-2009, 09:36 AM
If they got rid of class/race restrictions I'm rolling up a tauren rogue...or a mage named Flamebroiled.

Donquix
08-16-2009, 12:51 PM
If they got rid of class/race restrictions I'm rolling up a tauren rogue...or a mage named Flamebroiled.

No reason not to be a tauren rogue...just do what gemstone did and make a culture option for them and say "now it may sound ridiculous that an 8 foot tall behemoth can sneak up on you...but they can, and they're well known for it! SO THERE!"

Parkbandit
08-16-2009, 04:07 PM
Garrosh as warchief? Cairne murdered? Ugh.

Baine would be fine becoming Tauren Chieftain and staying in the Horde after Garrosh murders his father?

Some of that just doesn't sound right.

If that happened.. I might have to level up Bayne.. tauren Shaman.

He is the Chief Beef ffs.

Some Rogue
08-16-2009, 04:14 PM
If that happened.. I might have to level up Bayne.. tauren Shaman.

He is the Queen Bee ffs.

Fixed

Parkbandit
08-16-2009, 05:16 PM
I'll kill you.

We doing a 10 man Naxx badge run tonight?

Some Rogue
08-16-2009, 05:37 PM
I'm in a group starting up right now for it. Though we're not having much luck getting a group together.

Parkbandit
08-16-2009, 05:47 PM
I'm in a group starting up right now for it. Though we're not having much luck getting a group together.

I won't be on for another 2 hours... Guess I'll do some xRealm AV.

Jerk.

AnticorRifling
08-16-2009, 06:18 PM
I won't be on tonight. Leaving for a business trip at 3:30AM....will be in Dayton all next week so I doubt I'll do more than just grind.

Some Rogue
08-16-2009, 07:24 PM
I gotta be up at 4:30 myself. That's why I went with this group earlier.

Atlanteax
08-17-2009, 02:51 PM
Sounds like the developers at WoW decided to take a huge dump on the game, literally.

Liagala
08-17-2009, 02:59 PM
"now it may sound ridiculous that an 8 foot tall behemoth can sneak up on you...but they can, and they're well known for it! SO THERE!"

Fel Reaver, anyone? I never see that bastard until he's about 2 feet away.

StrayRogue
08-21-2009, 03:56 PM
Cataclysm and all the above rumours have been confirmed at Blizzcon.

Methais
08-21-2009, 04:08 PM
Did you learn nothing from the last expansion? There were so many fake expansion announcements it was ridiculous.

Until its on worldofwarcraft.com it aint real.

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/cataclysm/

TheEschaton
08-21-2009, 04:39 PM
Was watching a stream of BLizzcon, all this was confirmed.

-TheE-

Some Rogue
08-21-2009, 04:54 PM
Not really thrilled with a lot of that.

New race/class combos isn't going to make me reroll a character.

Deathwing, another black dragon boss. Great.

Completely changing Azeroth. Will be kinda shitty to see some of the old zones go away or be changed completely.

Ragnaros...again. Meh.

Can't see too much I am excited about.

Parkbandit
08-21-2009, 05:39 PM
I'm glad we'll be able to fly everywhere now.

I wouldn't mind rolling up a goblin, but the thought of going from 1 to 85 gives me the shakes... ain't going to happen.

I'm under-impressed.. but it won't make me quit the game.

Numbers
08-21-2009, 06:26 PM
The guy doing the voiceover for that trailer sounds like he was taking a massive crap. But the turd got stuck, so he had to dislodge it with a fork. And then he's all like, "Eww, gross!" because, y'know, there was shit on the fork. So he puts it in the sink to wash it, but he gets a phone call, and he forgets. And when his girlfriend comes over, she sees the fork, thinks it's browny batter, and licks it, and she gets all grossed out, and in a fit of rage, throws the fork at him. But she throws it too hard, and it goes through his eye and into his brain, killing him instantly. Distraught, she then kills herself.

Yeah, that's what he sounds like

StrayRogue
08-21-2009, 09:03 PM
* Mana/5 sec is gone. Spirit now regenerates mana.
* All healers will get a Meditation like skill. (In combat regeneration)
* Mages and Warlocks won't have to deal with Spirit on their gear anymore.
* Spell Power is also gone. Intellect now provides mana AND Spell Power
* Hunters and Enhancement Shamans won't have to worry about intellect anymore
* Attack Power is also gone.
* Agility now provides 2 AP for rogues, hunters, shaman, and druids. Plate-wearers won't steal your gear anymore!
* Defense is gone. No more juggling around the cap. Tanks will receive the needed anti crit from talents (Survival of the Fittest)
* Armor Penetration is gone. It was too confusing and is now replaced with a mastery.
* Mastery makes you better at what you do. (more on this later)
* Haste now increases rate which you gain energy, runes, rage, and focus.
* Talents for Enhancement and Retribution will make this work.
* Block value goes away. A block mitigates a percentage of damage. It is now a real mitigation stat.
* With No Defense, Spell Power, Attack Power = more Stamina for all.

I don't even know why I'm keeping up with these changes - I've not played for months. Still, some of it sounds interesting.

Big lock/hunter changes.

Androidpk
08-21-2009, 09:13 PM
* Mana/5 sec is gone. Spirit now regenerates mana.

* Mages and Warlocks won't have to deal with Spirit on their gear anymore.
* Spell Power is also gone. Intellect now provides mana AND Spell Power
* Hunters and Enhancement Shamans won't have to worry about intellect anymore


If mana regens through spirit you would think mages and warlocks would still need to have some spirit on their gear. Same thing with intellect and enhancement shamans. Horrible changes.

Methais
08-22-2009, 12:05 AM
Completely changing Azeroth. Will be kinda shitty to see some of the old zones go away or be changed completely.

Ragnaros...again. Meh.

Can't see too much I am excited about.

If you really miss them that much, you can go reminisce on a private server.

Then 10 minutes later when you get bored with it and realize that the nostalgia was the driving factor, log back over to live and enjoy the new stuff.


If mana regens through spirit you would think mages and warlocks would still need to have some spirit on their gear. Same thing with intellect and enhancement shamans. Horrible changes.

I'm guessing gear will be loaded down with Intellect now to offset it, since spellpower won't be eating up items' budgets.

Methais
08-22-2009, 12:06 AM
The guy doing the voiceover for that trailer sounds like he was taking a massive crap. But the turd got stuck, so he had to dislodge it with a fork. And then he's all like, "Eww, gross!" because, y'know, there was shit on the fork. So he puts it in the sink to wash it, but he gets a phone call, and he forgets. And when his girlfriend comes over, she sees the fork, thinks it's browny batter, and licks it, and she gets all grossed out, and in a fit of rage, throws the fork at him. But she throws it too hard, and it goes through his eye and into his brain, killing him instantly. Distraught, she then kills herself.

Yeah, that's what he sounds like

This is one of the best random stories I've ever read.

Donquix
08-22-2009, 12:38 AM
I'm glad we'll be able to fly everywhere now.

I wouldn't mind rolling up a goblin, but the thought of going from 1 to 85 gives me the shakes... ain't going to happen.

I'm under-impressed.. but it won't make me quit the game.

Meh, leveling 1-60 now is a joke, it really is. I quit for a while (when top end guilds were working on SSC) and came back just before WotLK came out, changed servers and factions and leveled up a hunter from 1-80, it's hilarious how easy it was up to 60. and i was 70 by the time quests were barely taking me out of fucking zangramarsh or some shit.

The new race/class combos will be nice for people who want to reroll to check out the new content, not a bad thing. And, while i would personally have liked all new content, if this was the excuses they needed to revamp the zones to allow flying mounts in old world wow...it was so fucking worth it.

I'm more laughing at the elemental planes being focused on...world of EQ. Next expansion will have the Hate elementals.

Methais
08-22-2009, 12:43 AM
While we're on the subject of recycling, what would you call the next season's gladiator set if you could name it?

I'd go with REALLY ANGRY GLADIATOR. Maybe even REALLY REALLY ANGRY GLADIATOR for 2k+.

Donquix
08-22-2009, 01:00 AM
If the leggings are Victorious Gladiator's Angrypants

i'll reactivate for that.

Bhuryn
08-22-2009, 03:07 AM
Finally they released a small race for the horde!

StrayRogue
08-22-2009, 03:46 AM
If mana regens through spirit you would think mages and warlocks would still need to have some spirit on their gear. Same thing with intellect and enhancement shamans. Horrible changes.

Spirit or MP5 hasn't been the prime mana regen stat since the start of Wrath. Int has been.

Liagala
08-22-2009, 10:31 PM
Do we know when they plan to release this?

Parkbandit
08-22-2009, 10:56 PM
:rofl: at your new avatar.

I wouldn't count on the expansion before late 2010.

Androidpk
08-22-2009, 11:06 PM
* Mana/5 sec is gone. Spirit now regenerates mana.



Spirit or MP5 hasn't been the prime mana regen stat since the start of Wrath. Int has been.


With spirit now being used again for mana regen, and mages and warlocks not having to worry about spirit on their gear.... how will they regen mana?

Some Rogue
08-22-2009, 11:13 PM
Int for damage dealers I think they said.

StrayRogue
08-23-2009, 12:38 AM
With spirit now being used again for mana regen, and mages and warlocks not having to worry about spirit on their gear.... how will they regen mana?

Like I said, Int was the prime mana regen stat of Wrath.

Alfster
08-23-2009, 07:02 AM
I haven't followed much of the official stuff on this expansion, but there's been some rumors of official posts from blues that this expansion was started before WOTLK.

I personally like the idea. Won't have to go very far to gank the shit out of Worgens. Plus, from what I've read, leveling a new character will be "fun" because everything should be newish, and on par with a whole new game.

Nieninque
08-23-2009, 07:07 AM
I haven't followed much of the official stuff on this expansion, but there's been some rumors of official posts from blues that this expansion was started before WOTLK.

I personally like the idea. Won't have to go very far to gank the shit out of Worgens. Plus, from what I've read, leveling a new character will be "fun" because everything should be newish, and on par with a whole new game.


Except it will just be a different looking character doing the same old shit to the same old shit for the same old shit.

Alfster
08-23-2009, 10:07 AM
Yah. No doubt. I hate leveling so much, I don't see me ever bothering to level a goblin.

Donquix
08-23-2009, 12:11 PM
Leveling is so fucking easy now pre-70, it's ridiculous. Especially if...

you take the time to do the new dungeons w/ a group of friends all making new shit and/or the cross realm 5man system doesn't blow.

Being able to grind out the levels. You could also activate a second account for the recruit-a-friend bonus, activate the account for a month and you basically get 3 60s for less effort than leveling 1, heh.