Gear from scratch

[Lumi]

So maybe I'm just frustrated by the results of Playershops searches, or maybe I'm inspired by Lucos' progress in this field, but I've been seriously wondering about the process and resources needed to create a Truly Epic Item(tm) from scratch.

I'm thinking about armor for my warrior, because I've a feeling he's going to need it...

However, I don't think we can forge armor, correct?

Is there a way to pad a nice set of armor besides PPs? What about imbuing reactive flares?

Anything else I should consider?

[TheLastShamurai]

Padding and flares can both be achieved via PPs or a merchant. The merchants at the CCF were stingy with the padding, so PPs are probably the way to go for that, but flares a pretty cheap. And no, there is no armor forging.

Should also consider lightening, special flares, resistances, spikes, the occasional scripting/ez scripting and alters.

I myself bought a set of human/half-elf only full plate from this last years Ebon Gate, enchanted it to 7x with my wizard, then took it to the CCF and had it spiked, lightened to 38 lbs and had void flares put on it.

My current project is my perfect ora maul, which was lightened to like 3 or 4 lbs, and is one cast away from 7x. Then I'll probably get some PPs and take it to 8x and get it altered. I'm also always on the lookout for ways to improve my armor at merchants, but I'm satisfied with it for now.

[Lumi]

What did you start out with as the base armor? How'd you get it?

[TheLastShamurai]

It was just 4x full plate with a human/half-elf restriction {I believe it inspects as vultite} off the shelf from Ebon Gate when I purchased it.

[droit]

Now that enhancives are enchantable, I'd say finding a suit of armor that enhanced a weapon skill or other important attribute is the way to go. However, good enhancives are REALLY FUCKING HARD to enchant. I've got Vrannar (you know, the 23m exp wizard?) trying to enchant a suit of golvern augmented chain with +13 stamina recovery from 5x to 6x right now, and he's failed the first cast three times in a row. I'm still awaiting a response from a GM as to why.

Anyway, in theory, the best armor you could make would be an enhancive suit of your favorite material, wizard enchanted up to 7x, merchant/PP enchanted further, altered, lightened down to its min, padded/flared/TD, spiked, sancted, resisted and scripted (if a merchant ever decides to add fluff scripts to armor [which is a neat idea; I should suggest it]). I think that covers every slot possible.

I'm a huge fan of starting from scratch. Most of my stuff started as pretty modest junk, including some +32 HCP 13lb scripted aug chain that started as off the shelf imflass, and a matching 8x perfect permablessed handaxe / 8x perfect HCW scripted dagger set which were both started as plain ora. If it's possible to enchant that stamina chain, I'm going to get it up to 7x and get it padded via points or at the next padding merchant. 7x HCP golvern aug chain with +13 stamina recovery? Awesome.

[TheLastShamurai]

Ah yeah, forgot about enhancives/enhancive knowledge, TD and sanctifications. Dachres might be the way to go with enhancives though, since like Droit say, they're hard as hell to enchant. :(

I wouldn't mind a set of enhancive full plate myself to work on.

[kookiegod]

I made some nifty things at CCF...

Two highlights...

I had a suit of self mana 801 plate I been working on. I got it out of Wadsworth shop when he quit. It was 5x hdp. I had the padding removed and enchanted it to 6x, and lightened several times. At CCF I added spikes, and vhcp. So max lightened full plate, vhcp, spiked and self mana heal 1.

Other was a set of simple greaves I had, and added spikes, flares, and then the enhancive 211/bravery too them.

Another suit of mpb I added vhcp too, for my rogue.

As Lucos did, and a bunch of others, making gear is fun, starting with something and just working it every chance you get. The TD bonus shell armor Briarfox gots, the 7x vhcp shell armor Landrai gots, the 10x TD plate, etc, all started off modest. To me, one of the best parts of GS.

~Paul

[The Ponzzz]

Not the easiest armor to come by. But I had some 4x hauberk that cast 130 4x a day for double self mana. After purchase, I brought it up to 7x with the help of Paul and my points. Got it changed to aug chain, added spikes and fire flares and added 211 enhancive to it. It is max lightened. Hoping to get it to 8x before I consider it "complete." That is about the most I put into one item, so far.

The only other item that I really like is my hat. Has 9 EzScripts attached to it. I just wish it was pocketed.

[kookiegod]

Oh just to repeat something I posted once...

What you can add to stuff...

Shields - alter, enchants, flares (offensive), lighten, spikes, TD, one script (fluff or example banshee flares), enhansives, sancted, perambless

Weapons - alter, enchants, flares, lighten, weighting (crit or damage), one script (fluff or example snake poison flares), enhansives, TD, defender bonus, sancted, permabless

Armor - alter, enchants, lighten , spikes, flares (offensive and defensive(flares are both on armor)), padding (crit or damage), one script (fluff or example self mana), enhansives, TD, (can also do armor accessories for 1500), sancted, permabless, resistances, ranger imbued resistances (see Regyy for the best :) on scale and below armor classes up to his max padding level which i think is very heavy)


Note - flares/td/combat scripts/defenders/permabless/padding/weighting etc fit in only one slot, can only have one. Important to note. SANCTED does not fit in this restriction.

I didn't count the natural materials like adamantium flares or zelnorn cause you can't add them. Nor counting temporary bonuses.

Many of these are available via premium points....

Padding - heavy crit or damage padding
Flares - acid, ice, fire, lightning, earth
enhansives - bonuses and ranks
enchanting
fluff scripts or custom scripts (autoscripter or ezscript)
Lighten

So is a plethora of options to work on gear.

My best suggestion is pick something you really want done, armor, shield or weapon.

If its a weapon, get one perfectly forged. Else get whatever suits you (and your budget). Get it enchanted to 7x if its enchantable still by a wizard first off. Go to merchants to max lighten, alter it, add whatever services are available there. If you use an enhansive/sancted item to start, be prepared to hire a very old wizard and pay a lot more and find the potions to do it.

Buy/barter/trade some points if you don't have them for the services you can't get normally or wait for the next major merchant event and go to them hard with a plan once you know whats available.

Have several projects in the works at all times.

How it best works.

Hope that helps!

~Paul

[Lucos]

When it comes to making really good items you need a lot of luck as well as being very patient. Piles of silver doesn't hurt either.

In the case of plate class armor, if I were to work towards making my own set, the first thing I would do is to buy a set of at least HCP to wear since it is gonna take forever to make a set. Gotta wear something decent in the mean time right? I would then search around for some truly light plate. Max lightened nowadays is 38 pounds. I would search high and low for some of that stuff people have that is 20 pounds or below. I would prefer it to be with no special abilities. I would then get it enchanted up to 7X via wizard enchant and then HCP it via PP...or flare it if that is what you prefer. If you have enough PP or get lucky at an event, take it to 8X and then HCP pad it. The only thing left is to wear it and attend every event and merchant and pray they offer a service that can improve it. I know I lugged around that 10X buckler for many a year until I hit CCF and had it worked on.

Same with weapons. Once I switched Lucos to only using stilettos, it became a damn chore to find nice daggers...they are just not out there. The best I could find was an 8X steel dagger which I had dual flared impact/ice at EG 07. But before that event I decided I would just make my own. So I had Lucos master crafting and forging, forged two perfect vultite daggers...one for me and one for a friend. Passed mine off to a wizard and had it taken up to 7X. Lesser enchant at CCF took it to 8X. Greater auction win at CCF took it to 9X. PP I saved up took it to 10X. Now it is a waiting game until I can find a merchant willing to weight it.

So my advice is to find some middling armor that you can survive in, but is nothing to really brag about. Then find that perfect base set (to me, below 20 pounds is the big thing) and then get busy.

[Lumi]

You people all have some insane gear!

I'm noticing a theme here, though. It seems like I'm not going to be able to do anything truly nifty unless I attend a major event like EG, CCF, Wavedancer, etc. Random merchants who just show up and spin (or the like) aren't going to do padding, spikes, flares, etc.

The other thing I'm noticing, or thinking, is that this is going to be a stupidly expensive process. How much does it cost to do something like hcp or reactive flares?

I really like the idea of +stamina recovery plate armor, since I most likely want to give this to my berserking warrior, and he just never has enough stamina.

[WRoss]

One other thing you are missing here is that all these people posting have spent massive amounts of silver into their items. If you are thinking that spending 100m on something seems like a lot, then you might want to reconsider your plans.

[Lumi]

One other thing you are missing here is that all these people posting have spent massive amounts of silver into their items. If you are thinking that spending 100m on something seems like a lot, then you might want to reconsider your plans.

Well, that is a crazy amount of money to me, but I'm also willing to pay that, by the time I can amass it.

Which is an entirely separate issue...I don't have any skinners, and I'm just not a money-making machine, but I think I can manage it.

[Belnia]

My old set of brigandine was some of that black mithril alloy stuff that was sold off-the-shelf years ago. I had it enchanted up to 7x eventually, maximum lightened. Had vacuum (implosion) resistance put on it at EG one year, and heavy crit padding. That was the set I was using until I got the HDP self mana invisibility brigandine.

Got the HDP stripped off at EG last year, and it's almost on the final cast of the 7x right now. After that, I'll probably get it padded with crit padding again and be content.

[StrayRogue]

When it comes to making really good items you need a lot of luck as well as being very patient. Piles of silver doesn't hurt either.



That or knowing the right people.

[Ardwen]

Largest key I have ever had getting items done via services si to be with the right group of players in events, find folks that are willing to work with each other trading services to each other for the ones they want. Works wonders, were one or two such groups at each of the CCF runs doing just that. Sure having loads of coins helps, making deals with other people to avoid spending them works even better. I've saved untold millions by talking the opposition out of bidding against me and wasting their and my time and money.

[Lucos]

That or knowing the right people.

BUYING high-end items helps when you know the right people. MAKING the items takes going to the events, being in the right place at the right time and getting lucky via spinner/room order/whatever.

[StrayRogue]

OR knowing the right people.

[Fallen]

Regyy can do the full range of exceptional padding, and possibly the very lowest range of masterful, but likely not.

[droit]

Largest key I have ever had getting items done via services si to be with the right group of players in events, find folks that are willing to work with each other trading services to each other for the ones they want. Works wonders, were one or two such groups at each of the CCF runs doing just that. Sure having loads of coins helps, making deals with other people to avoid spending them works even better. I've saved untold millions by talking the opposition out of bidding against me and wasting their and my time and money.

QFT.

Of the 3 items I listed (hcp chain, permablessed axe, hcw dagger), none of them cost above 20-25m to make. The permablessed axe is a perfect example of this; I had it wizard enchanted up to 7x for a few mil, managed to buy someone's Ironwright enchant at EG for a mere 5m to take it up to 8x, then, at CCF, Mikoguchi literally gave me his permabless spot for free because as a paladin, he had no use for it. Overall, the entire process probably cost me about 17m, including commissioning the perfect ora axe in the first place.

I used my own PPs for the HCP chain, thus limiting the out of pocket expense to the cost of a few wizard enchants. The HCW knife was my most expensive item because it took a major auction win at CCF. I had it as a plain 7x, then someone in my group won the DCW service and gave it to me, I won a minor enchant slot, then I spent 15m on the further weighting auction to get it up to HCW. It was a mixture of luck, friends and silver, and it only cost me about 24 or 25m over a few years.

[Donquix]

Uber is a relative term.

I think my perfect 5x altered sais I made and enchanted myself are uber.

I have low expectations though :)

[Lucos]

OR knowing the right people.

Need to get something off of your chest? Be an adult and speak your piece instead of skirting around the edge.

[StrayRogue]

Look at the WD debacle and argue that "knowing the right folk" cannot help your chances at getting an uber item.

[Donquix]

Need to get something off of your chest? Be an adult and speak your piece instead of skirting around the edge.

Not him but...

knowing the right people would either let you....

know when and exactly where merchants are going to be at times

as paul and others mentioned, at events if you run with a good group of people who help each other trade services and such, you can get a TON done by keeping a disproportionate amount of services in your clique. There's nothing wrong with this, but if i walk into a merchant event and say Paul for instance gets spun for a service he doesn't need (say...a fourth 606 dagger or whatever he's up to :P) and i ask for it but don't know him, i'm likely not going to get it over a friend of us. (not cheaply anyway)

it's also nice if you're friends with someone who has a ton of disposable income IRL, and brings 10 accounts to merchant events :)

[StrayRogue]

Not him but...

knowing the right people would either let you....

know when and exactly where merchants are going to be at times

as paul and others mentioned, at events if you run with a good group of people who help each other trade services and such, you can get a TON done by keeping a disproportionate amount of services in your clique. There's nothing wrong with this, but if i walk into a merchant event and say Paul for instance gets spun for a service he doesn't need (say...a fourth 606 dagger or whatever he's up to :P) and i ask for it but don't know him, i'm likely not going to get it over a friend of us. (not cheaply anyway)

it's also nice if you're friends with someone who has a ton of disposable income IRL, and brings 10 accounts to merchant events :)

Pretty much explains the point.

I've had first had experience with the first and last point. And I'll say it helps immensely.

[Donquix]

Indeed. I basically keep to myself in game now, mostly because I play from work so it makes keeping up conversations in game difficult at best as I'm distracted the bulk of the time, but back in the day when i was more social...

I had one friend that randomly fogged to me and was like "come here", grabbed my hand, walked me to a random ass room near the landing that was strangely filled with about 10 or 12 other people.

i was like "whats going on?" and she just giggled...oddly enough, and i'm sure to the complete shock of the dozen or so legends in the room, a wagon pulled up with an alterer working. Who, surprise surprise, did room order.

[Lucos]

Look at the WD debacle and argue that "knowing the right folk" cannot help your chances at getting an uber item.

I don't know what debacle happened on the WD. I went to the first run and the second run, but something pissed me off on the third run and that was the run that I had a stateroom ticket. I iced my account after giving away the stateroom to a friend.

[Lucos]

Not him but...

knowing the right people would either let you....

know when and exactly where merchants are going to be at times

as paul and others mentioned, at events if you run with a good group of people who help each other trade services and such, you can get a TON done by keeping a disproportionate amount of services in your clique. There's nothing wrong with this, but if i walk into a merchant event and say Paul for instance gets spun for a service he doesn't need (say...a fourth 606 dagger or whatever he's up to :P) and i ask for it but don't know him, i'm likely not going to get it over a friend of us. (not cheaply anyway)

it's also nice if you're friends with someone who has a ton of disposable income IRL, and brings 10 accounts to merchant events :)

Usually when someone states "knowing the right people" with a wink-wink they are talking about having inside information that gives them an edge. Never been privy to this sort of information in the past myself, but rumors abound.

As far as knowing the right players and running in a group, anyone can do this. By simply having a large group of people to work the event with, being sure you enter every raffle no matter what it is and all being at the merchants for spins/whatever even if you don't want it...nothing special about that.

[Lucos]

oddly enough, and i'm sure to the complete shock of the dozen or so legends in the room, a wagon pulled up with an alterer working. Who, surprise surprise, did room order.

Again, nothing special here. Could be something as easy as the merchant was scheduled to arrive that time via the calendar, merchant had missed a previous scheduled event and posted on the Forums about the reschedule and not many read it, or those people could have been waiting for hours for that merchant to arrive. Running down the merchants and services can be a full time job. I've waited many a 12 hour sessions in one room on the chance a merchant will arrive.

Those who get a lot of services pay attention to how things are run and work with the system. Just because you have an account and bought a ticket doesn't entitle you to piles of services...got to get out there and earn it like anything else in the game.

[StrayRogue]

I don't know what debacle happened on the WD. I went to the first run and the second run, but something pissed me off on the third run and that was the run that I had a stateroom ticket. I iced my account after giving away the stateroom to a friend.

It was exhaustively discussed when it occured.

[kookiegod]

Not him but...
as paul and others mentioned, at events if you run with a good group of people who help each other trade services and such, you can get a TON done by keeping a disproportionate amount of services in your clique. There's nothing wrong with this, but if i walk into a merchant event and say Paul for instance gets spun for a service he doesn't need (say...a fourth 606 dagger or whatever he's up to :P) and i ask for it but don't know him, i'm likely not going to get it over a friend of us. (not cheaply anyway)


Yep, why both runs of CCF I did really well, cause I went with great groups, used the chatroom to its fullest extent, and traded around/bought/sold services.

Heh, on the dagger, but yah, if I 'won' something I didn't need, yah, it was pretty much given/sold to friends first, i.e. an enchant on Lucos's stilletto so he could get it to 10x :)

And as Droit says, it doesn't have to take a ton of coins, but it does take going to everything and learning whats going on quickly.

Next event, feel free to hook up with us btw. :)

~Paul

[Lucos]

It was exhaustively discussed when it occured.

You have an annoying habit of assuming everyone knows WTF you are talking about.

[Donquix]

Again, nothing special here. Could be something as easy as the merchant was scheduled to arrive that time via the calendar, merchant had missed a previous scheduled event and posted on the Forums about the reschedule and not many read it, or those people could have been waiting for hours for that merchant to arrive. Running down the merchants and services can be a full time job. I've waited many a 12 hour sessions in one room on the chance a merchant will arrive.

Those who get a lot of services pay attention to how things are run and work with the system. Just because you have an account and bought a ticket doesn't entitle you to piles of services...got to get out there and earn it like anything else in the game.

It was clearly not a scheduled event...

it happens, or at least it used to with regularity. Not sure what it's like in today's game with the reduced population/staff size.

[StrayRogue]

Don't give a shit if you or anyone else doesn't know what I'm talking about. I know people are reading who do, and that's just about that one single example. You're also the one who butted in on the comment to begin with. So stfu.

[Donquix]

Yep, why both runs of CCF I did really well, cause I went with great groups, used the chatroom to its fullest extent, and traded around/bought/sold services.

Heh, on the dagger, but yah, if I 'won' something I didn't need, yah, it was pretty much given/sold to friends first, i.e. an enchant on Lucos's stilletto so he could get it to 10x :)

And as Droit says, it doesn't have to take a ton of coins, but it does take going to everything and learning whats going on quickly.

Next event, feel free to hook up with us btw. :)

~Paul

Heh, maybe at eg. Of course i have roughly 1.5m in coins to my name right now...so i don't know what the hell i'll be doing there!

note to self: stop being lazy and have that locker cleanout (I have items worth dozens of silver!)

[kookiegod]

Heh, maybe at eg. Of course i have roughly 1.5m in coins to my name right now...so i don't know what the hell i'll be doing there!

note to self: stop being lazy and have that locker cleanout (I have items worth dozens of silver!)

Heh, EG auction is gonna be worth it, even without coins. 1/2 the items will be up for 'tokens', basically an instant raffle for the price of admission. People with coins be in the silver room if they want something desperately, but heck, i'll be in the token room looking to get it cheap if I can.

~Paul

[Lucos]

Don't give a shit if you or anyone else doesn't know what I'm talking about. I know people are reading who do, and that's just about that one single example. You're also the one who butted in on the comment to begin with. So stfu.

I responded to a comment posted on a public forum and you have a problem with that? You sir are a fucking childish moron.

[StrayRogue]

I'm not the one getting all bent out of shape because I don't know wtf someone else is talking here. You asked what I was talking about and I responded. Sorry if you require even more hand-holding beyond the use of the Search function.

[StrayRogue]

Need to get something off of your chest? Be an adult and speak your piece instead of skirting around the edge.

Sorry, but this sounds like someone being a whiney bitch here. I'll say again, I spoke my piece AT GREAT LENGTH when it happened. Boo-Fucking-Who if I cba to explain it all again for you.

[Lucos]

Sorry, but this sounds like someone being a whiney bitch here. I'll say again, I spoke my piece AT GREAT LENGTH when it happened. Boo-Fucking-Who if I cba to explain it all again for you.

I simply stated that I had no idea what problems occurred at the WD. A simple synopsis of what occurred is apparently too difficult for you, but that's fine. I'll let you go back to your daily bitching and moaning about how others get the good stuff and poor little you doesn't get shit.

I have noticed a trend in those who complain incessantly about not getting work done or merchant bitching in general. They tend to be lazy and have had everything given to them over the course of their life. Go out and work for something for once in you life. You might enjoy it more. It's not some big conspiracy against you ya know.

[StrayRogue]

I simply stated that I had no idea what problems occurred at the WD. A simple synopsis of what occurred is apparently too difficult for you, but that's fine. I'll let you go back to your daily bitching and moaning about how others get the good stuff and poor little you doesn't get shit.

I have noticed a trend in those who complain incessantly about not getting work done or merchant bitching in general. They tend to be lazy and have had everything given to them over the course of their life. Go out and work for something for once in you life. You might enjoy it more. It's not some big conspiracy against you ya know.

ROFL.

You are truly clueless.

While I find it pretty sad to argue with someone who literally spends all their time playing GS and merchant hounding, I will admit to saying I did pretty well on the merchant/high-end front. I've messed with some of the most well-known items in the game. Hell I've even retired with a few. Whoopie.

You didn't simply ask what happened at the WD. You didn't simply ask for a synopsis. You acted like a little dick. So stop being lazy, use the search. Or is that beyond you?

[Kitsun]

I attended like every run of the WD and I have no idea WTF you're talking about StrayRogue. Search for what? "WD debacle"?

[Fallen]

Has merchanting favoritism occurred in gs? Sure. Is it commonplace? Not IMO.

[Donquix]

Has merchanting favoritism occurred in gs? Sure. Is it commonplace? Not IMO.

I don't know about today, with the reduced population and staffing, i know it was pretty damn common in the past.

[thefarmer]

Back on topic, it took a good chunk of coins to make my cloak at CCF run 3. It helped that I knew someone who had a 2x db cloak lying around, which is what gave me the idea to improve it (a few days before that run).

My only regret is that I wasn't around for the DB enchanting to up it to 3x. Still, I came away with a pretty nice upgraded item.

[Durgrimst]

Back on topic, it took a good chunk of coins to make my cloak at CCF run 3. It helped that I knew someone who had a 2x db cloak lying around, which is what gave me the idea to improve it (a few days before that run).

My only regret is that I wasn't around for the DB enchanting to up it to 3x. Still, I came away with a pretty nice upgraded item.

If we would have teamed up on this we could have used a 10x DB.....

That would have been unreal.

[Celephais]

I bought an imflass buckler w/ +9 spell aiming, +3 ML:Trans, +5 SL:Blessing, I had it altered (nothing special), and it's currently in the hands of a GM having the lore changed to +8 fire lore. So it'll be +9 SA, +8 EL:Fire, and then I plan on getting it enchanted to +32 in the far distant future for my non-runestaff using wizard.

I can't imagine I'll come across a better shield for a wizard (maybe if I could get it larger instead of buckler...)

[GS4-Brimzstone]

Lumi - Just wait until Ebon Gates 2009 - There will be an auction tier.
A lot of the gear is decent but doesn't scream tier 9 world of warcraft epic ...
but its still good and it can be relatively cheap. If you want more then one item bring more than one account plain and simple

If you're worried about not having enough silver.. Sell off alterations for 500K-2m each or whatever the going rate will be

---
I had 2 accounts at the time of the spitfire that came after the gemstone conversion

Heres what I made out with

between both accounts - had like 30-40 services this was with like 900 people ( it was pretty high at that point in time)
I won a 5x sanctified returner from one of paul's merchant for I think 15M
I had it altered to dragon-etched eonake axe and also had lightning flares added to it.
I was able to buy a forehead gem for 13M on the amunet because the person had no clue lol
I won like 25M off the conquest wheel
I had my armor lightened by a lot it was like 8lb double leather..

[droit]

I bought an imflass buckler w/ +9 spell aiming, +3 ML:Trans, +5 SL:Blessing, I had it altered (nothing special), and it's currently in the hands of a GM having the lore changed to +8 fire lore. So it'll be +9 SA, +8 EL:Fire, and then I plan on getting it enchanted to +32 in the far distant future for my non-runestaff using wizard.

I can't imagine I'll come across a better shield for a wizard (maybe if I could get it larger instead of buckler...)

Good luck enchanting that, bro. I'm working on two fairly enhancive pieces and I can't even get past the first cast. It's freaking Vrannar and Oravia doing the enchanting, too. I've been bugging Naos about it in the enchanting folder, so hopefully he's taking a look.

[Kitsun]

I'm not having any issues with my two enchancive enchants yet. I've got a 1) trident with +10 Ambush bonus and +11 Pole bonus and 2) light leathers with +6 Agi bonus, +6 Spell Aiming, 2 INF bonus and +3 ML:T. I'm still under 4x though. Are those going to 6x or 7x?

[droit]

Minor enchants are cake. I also had no problem with a 5x, but now its the 6x enchants on that same item and another that are causing problems.

[droit]

Speaking of which, I JUST FAILED THE FIRST CAST FOR A FOURTH FUCKING TIME IN A ROW on my goddamn stamina chain.

[TheLastShamurai]

I'm not having any issues with my two enchancive enchants yet. I've got a 1) trident with +10 Ambush bonus and +11 Pole bonus and 2) light leathers with +6 Agi bonus, +6 Spell Aiming, 2 INF bonus and +3 ML:T. I'm still under 4x though. Are those going to 6x or 7x?

Yeah, for a capped Wizard the 4x and under don't seem to be a problem. I haven't personally had anything taken above 4x yet.

My wizard, which is 64, can't do squat to any enhancives {anything worth enchanting anyways}. The only one I've come close to was a dagger that had +6 stamina recov. {was like level 10 to use} and I still needed a 90+ roll with the enhancive potion to even temper it. :(

[TheLastShamurai]

Speaking of which, I JUST FAILED THE FIRST CAST FOR A FOURTH FUCKING TIME IN A ROW on my goddamn stamina chain.

:(

[droit]

Vrannar and Oravia both have temper modifiers of about 175, so that ain't the issue. I think the chain at least is just at its enchant cap, which blows donkey balls.

[Celephais]

Good luck enchanting that, bro. I'm working on two fairly enhancive pieces and I can't even get past the first cast. It's freaking Vrannar and Oravia doing the enchanting, too. I've been bugging Naos about it in the enchanting folder, so hopefully he's taking a look.
That's why I said I hadn't plans of doing it right away... I'm going to hope they make it easier, or some trick is figured out.

[BriarFox]

As Lucos did, and a bunch of others, making gear is fun, starting with something and just working it every chance you get. The TD bonus shell armor Briarfox gots, the 7x vhcp shell armor Landrai gots, the 10x TD plate, etc, all started off modest. To me, one of the best parts of GS.

~Paul

QFT.

[AnticorRifling]

I didn't make my armor I had to hunt down trades for people to make deals on this that and the other. X would take Y well Z had Y but would only take H shit H belongs to Q and Q will only sell if he can get ahold of T....find T and boom it was for sale and it all fell into place. Then I altered it.

[Durgrimst]

Speaking of which, I JUST FAILED THE FIRST CAST FOR A FOURTH FUCKING TIME IN A ROW on my goddamn stamina chain.

Get a mage that doesn't suck to do your enchanting???

[Widgets]

Get a mage that doesn't suck to do your enchanting???

I heard Vrannar is an idiot though...Stupid newb Wizard

[droit]

I heard Vrannar is an idiot though...Stupid newb Wizard

Or some stupid n00b owner fixskilled him to 75 wizard ranks! ;)

[TheLastShamurai]

Or some stupid n00b owner fixskilled him to 75 wizard ranks! ;)

Owe! I hear dems be importante to enchanting.

[droit]

I think it's probably gonna take a wizard with 150 wizard spells to enchant some of these pieces.

[Celephais]

I think it's probably gonna take a wizard with 150 wizard spells to enchant some of these pieces.
Really sucks that wizards have no combat use for overtraining wizard ranks.

[droit]

There is no bug. Enhancive items are generally more difficult to enchant, and the difficulty scales up in relation to how 'good' the enhancive benefits are. Better stuff is more difficult to enchant. Some stuff won't be able to be enchanted by players. It's intended.

--
Naos

I'm immune to fire!


:(:(:(

[TheLastShamurai]

LAME

[Fallen]

I guess crappy enhancive enchanting is better than no enchanting at all. Still, I would like to see a wizard with maxed out training take ANY enhancive to 4x. Beyond that, I can see there being hard limitations.

[WRoss]

So now that I have an end game weapon, I am considering enchanting up one of two pieces, which do you think I should do?

6x, perfectly forged, Decently Crit Weighted Maul

Or....

1x Masterfully Crit Padded Brigandine armor

Or maybe even....

4x Expertly Crit Weighted Mattock

[StrayRogue]

Always always always armour. You won't be using a weapon at the end-game that isn't 4x.

[AMUSED1]

I imagine it would be EXTREMELY hard to get the masterfully crit padded or expertly crit weighted things enchanted. Most enchanter merchants I've noticed have a stopping on how high of padding/weighting GM Warden will let them do. You're much better off getting work on the maul done.

[StrayRogue]

Which will then get lockered.

[WRoss]

Both the armor and the maul are the same PP to enchant. Or around the same at least. I believe its 5200 for the maul and 5700 for the armor.

I plan on doing a lot of warcamps so I'll be using the mattock a lot. The maul will probably be passed on to one of my other chars. If I don't use it, I'll end up selling it.

[waywardgs]

I imagine it would be EXTREMELY hard to get the masterfully crit padded or expertly crit weighted things enchanted. Most enchanter merchants I've noticed have a stopping on how high of padding/weighting GM Warden will let them do. You're much better off getting work on the maul done.

That brig was brought to 1x with pp's, so I imagine that'd be the way to get it further. Will probably cost a fortune, though.

[Fallen]

Gotta go with improvements to the brig.