Flaring blackjack(s)

[Belnia]

Looking for a blackjack based weapon with interesting flares. Disintegration, disruption, steam, vacuum, something like that.

[droit]

Have you confirmed that using a blackjack provides a bonus to sstrike?

[Belnia]

I don't know, I just thought it looked cool.

[StrayRogue]

It provides a massive bonus to subdue, which is very similar.

[droit]

We just tested it and a blackjack adds a +20 bonus, which can stack with the +10 bonus from sstriking from hiding. +30 kicks a fair amount of ass.

[Donquix]

We just tested it and a blackjack adds a +20 bonus, which can stack with the +10 bonus from sstriking from hiding. +30 kicks a fair amount of ass.

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[The Ponzzz]

Check quarter staff next for sstrike.

[Danical]

it also adds +30 to kneebash.

It's definitely a "scoundrel" thing.

[The Ponzzz]

Funny, because brawling weapons cost 3/1 for rogues!

[Danical]

Funny, because brawling weapons cost 3/1 for rogues!

That's never made any sense and they've never given a reason why, as far as I know.

[The Ponzzz]

The reason, I believe, is that brawling is seen more are a fist fighting thing. Or MMA. But the weapon line up suggest the complete opposite. And with UAC coming, I don't think it will ever change.

[droit]

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[Stretch]

MONKS!

[droit]

By the way, the blackjack actually provides a +30 bonus. I was comparing it to a dagger, which has a +10 bonus (which I thought was from something else). Quarterstaff provides no bonus.

[The Ponzzz]

Whoa, since when on the quarterstaff! That thing was a wrecking machine when we tested it a few years ago. I guess it changed... :(

[droit]

I only took one swing with it, so I could easily have missed something. I'll test more thoroughly later.

[droit]

Sstrike stuns the target for a short period (usually 1 round), and has a slow effect equal to +2 RT (unless you get a huge endroll, in which case it is +4 RT) for something like ~10 seconds. No idea how much it affects perception. Also, weapons flare on it, so it's nice to have a strong feras dagger handy.

Weapon modifiers:
Runestaff: -10
Falchion: 0
Rapier: 0
Short sword: 0
Quarter staff: 0
Fist-scythe: 0
Jackblade: 0
Mace: 10
Dagger: 10
Cestus: 20
Blackjack: 30

[Danical]

I tried like hell to find a blackjack with knockout flares but I couldn't find any.

If you have +30 (blackjack) +10 (wspec) +10 (essentially via rank "6" guildwork) then you'd have to really fuck up for it not to work.

[droit]

Apparently knockout flares don't work with blackjacks. So says Adam.

[Danical]

:wtf:

BUG ITEM, WRITE FEEDBACK! (lulz)

The point of a blackjack is to knock the target out with a strike to the back of the head or temple (maybe killing them).

[Cap'nDrak]

Aparently the mechanics of knock out flares make them not really flares at all, as they have to specifically hit the head to operate, making them a script and not a flare. So on a blackjack via CMAN they don't function.

I was sad to find this out as well.

[Belnia]

Yeah, it was the ultimate application for the knockout flare. Alas.

Still looking for interesting flares, or one of those plain old 4x saps from EG that I already lost from last year. "a bleached leather sap stamped with tiny mules"

[Danical]

That's so bullshit. :(

[The Ponzzz]

Yeah, I have two 6x blackjacks I put knockout flares on just for that reason. The issue is, even though the messaging states it hits head, it hits [body]/[health] with a random chance to hit a certain body part. I was able to get it to flare once after about 400 uses.

I BUGITEM'd at the time and posted. Perhaps another round is in order.