note to people: re employee theft

[Apotheosis]

I started a new job recently, one that I found out about through my friend's mother who was doing the hiring.

Naturally, I got the job, but on day 1, the team of 4 people that I was working with informed me about what measures they were taking to rip the company off....

clearly, they weren't the sharpest knives in the rack, but telling me, in detail, how they were selling inventory and putting $$ in their pocket, among other things wasn't the smartest thing to do, especially since my friend's mother hired me to work for the small business.

I called her the following day and told her what was going on, and it was a pretty positive response, although an uncomfortable conversation from my position.


has anyone else encountered theft situations for a company they were working for and reported it? how did it turn out?

I am kind've afraid I'll be labeled a trouble-maker for having told this woman about the theft..

[Geshron]

My Dad is in Loss Prevention, he gets a kick out of doing shit like that. His answer would be a simple "fuck 'em".

[Bhuryn]

My Dad is in Loss Prevention At Wal-Mart, he gets a kick out of doing shit like that. His answer would be a simple "fuck 'em".

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[Apotheosis]

My Dad is in Loss Prevention, he gets a kick out of doing shit like that. His answer would be a simple "fuck 'em".

when I was thinking about how to handle this, my basic decision was "fuck 'em" (about the thieving employees).

Unfortunately, a site manager might be involved, although I am not 100% if he is or isn't.

[Bhuryn]

when I was thinking about how to handle this, my basic decision was "fuck 'em" (about the thieving employees).

Unfortunately, a site manager might be involved, although I am not 100% if he is or isn't.

Ultimately, you probably shouldn't care because if they are involved they'll all be fired anyway. Then you can take whatever job is the best. If they tried to fire you over it, I imagine the lady the hired you might have something to say about it.

[Apotheosis]

Ultimately, you probably shouldn't care because if they are involved they'll all be fired anyway. Then you can take whatever job is the best.

yeah really, but the point is, would I want to work for a company where that's a problem? who knows how rampant that stuff is throughout the organization..

if that shit goes to the top (accountants cooking books, etc..) there might be more enemies than friends at this company.

[Stanley Burrell]

This type of shit bothers me tremendously.

[BriarFox]

Maybe it was all a loyalty test. Dun dun dun. Black helicopters go WHOOOSH WHOOSH WHOOSH.

[War Angel]

Week 1, my 2nd job ever, the manager came in while I was working the late shift alone, and took 10 $1000 drop bags from my shift.
He had disabled the front counter camera from working. He reported my "theft" the next morning, only to have the police arrive and handcuff him. The greedy idiot went to the backroom to unload the cash from the drop bags, not realizing the owner had a secondary camera system installed.
I would've been screwed had the owner not had a back-up system.

[LMingrone]

When I worked at Circuit City pretty much every employee there was jacking stuff everyday. Including managers and LP. When I got fired when they went non-commission, and I had to meet with regional managers, When I walked out I told them, "All of the store managers and employees are robbing your store blind, check the cameras." Don't know if anything ever happened to them.

[Geshron]

?

OH NOEZ

I dun' get it.

[Stanley Burrell]

Week 1, my 2nd job ever, the manager came in while I was working the late shift alone, and took 10 $1000 drop bags from my shift.
He had disabled the front counter camera from working. He reported my "theft" the next morning, only to have the police arrive and handcuff him. The greedy idiot went to the backroom to unload the cash from the drop bags, not realizing the owner had a secondary camera system installed.
I would've been screwed had the owner not had a back-up system.

Holy fuck.

[Kembal]

yeah really, but the point is, would I want to work for a company where that's a problem? who knows how rampant that stuff is throughout the organization..

if that shit goes to the top (accountants cooking books, etc..) there might be more enemies than friends at this company.

You'll be able to tell in a week to two weeks, tops. If the people aren't fired/arrested in that time span, there's a 95% chance of something wrong at the top and you may want to move on.

[radamanthys]

Holy fuck.

Seconded.

[Klebsieli]

Seconded.

^^ Yeah, that's scary! I work for a company that does criminal/civil investigations for employment purposes, government agencies, and insurance. We utilize corporate credit cards to pay for access to some of the databases we need. The worst I've seen is some lady who decided to rack up about $9,000 on random shit (everything from an LCD TV to about 15 pairs of heels) on the same credit card. The dumb "wannabe thief" also used her home address as the mailing address for everything she bought. Needless to say, she got busted pretty fast. I've actually never stolen anything from an employer, and I never will. I have too much of a guilty conscience to actually get away with it.

[Drinin]

I've fired plenty of people for stealing from me. I caught one of my third shift guys stealing from registers. Over a month he stole a little over $800. Then again, I've also fired people for failing to pay for a bottle of water. No mercy!

[Back]

I started a new job recently, one that I found out about through my friend's mother who was doing the hiring.

Naturally, I got the job, but on day 1, the team of 4 people that I was working with informed me about what measures they were taking to rip the company off....

clearly, they weren't the sharpest knives in the rack, but telling me, in detail, how they were selling inventory and putting $$ in their pocket, among other things wasn't the smartest thing to do, especially since my friend's mother hired me to work for the small business.

I called her the following day and told her what was going on, and it was a pretty positive response, although an uncomfortable conversation from my position.


has anyone else encountered theft situations for a company they were working for and reported it? how did it turn out?

I am kind've afraid I'll be labeled a trouble-maker for having told this woman about the theft..

No doubt thats a tough position to be in. You were actually brave and had balls to do the right thing. Good for you.

[Jorddyn]

Strangely enough, I just got done writing a policy due to theft at our company. It's deemed a purchasing policy, but I really just wanted to be Jim Carrey in Liar Liar and say "STOP BREAKING THE LAW, ASSHOLE!"

[Back]

Strangely enough, I just got done writing a policy due to theft at our company. It's deemed a purchasing policy, but I really just wanted to be Jim Carrey in Liar Liar and say "STOP BREAKING THE LAW, ASSHOLE!"

Why do employees feel entitled? Been one. Been there. But I still can’t get my head around it.

[Drinin]

Why do employees feel entitled? Been one. Been there. But I still can’t get my head around it.

Been there as well, and I don't get it. Luckily, theft is one thing I can fire people for and not have any Union bullshit crop up.

[Anebriated]

Its a matter of respect for the job, the people you work with and the people you work for. Many people are just out to make a quick buck whether honest or not.

[Sean]

I steal time from my company to slack off and be online instead of working hard or even to my fullest on the daily.

[Gan]

You'll be able to tell in a week to two weeks, tops. If the people aren't fired/arrested in that time span, there's a 95% chance of something wrong at the top and you may want to move on.
/Agreed


Its a matter of respect for the job, the people you work with and the people you work for. Many people are just out to make a quick buck whether honest or not.
/Agreed

Some feel cheated by low pay or getting dicked around by boss/company.

Others are just out to make a buck.

A rare few do it for the thrill.

[Jayvn]

I know at dollar general if you call in employee theft depending on the amount admitted to you get between 100 and 1000 dollars. 70% of our shrink is employee related... fuckers

[Paradii]

You guys need to all get out of retail.

[Anebriated]

I suggest engineering. Everyone I work with is one step shy of full blown alcoholic.... mmm margarita fridays.

[Junarra]

It's not just retail. I worked at a small company years ago where the Office Manager embezzled over $100k (that they could find) over the course of 10 years. Did nobody ever wonder how she filled her garage with overflow from her closets on her salary? C'mon!

The owner of the company didn't want to prosecute, because she felt sorry for the employee, liked her, thought of her as a "friend" and worried what might happen to the employee's child.

I wanted to slap both of them. You don't get to feel sorry for people who steal when you're running a business. You don't consider your employees your friend. She should have put that chick behind bars. This still ticks me off to this day, almost 10 years later.

[Klebsieli]

Yeah, and that's definitely felony level embezzlement as well. If it was me, I'd have reported them regardless if their house just burnt down, dog died, husband/wife divorced them, etc. Violating the law is violating the law. There's never a situation that justifies theft. If one is ever in a bind financially, it never hurts to ask for help. I've had to get an advance of my paycheck before, and my employer definitely had no problems honoring my request. If I was caught stealing, though, I'd be tossed out on the street.

[Kuyuk]

I've never had enough balls to ask an employer for money - whether an advance or not.

Only asked family for money once, and it was forced from my wife.

Stole a bag of balloons when I was about 11 once. Got away with it, but felt extremely guilty about it - and still do. Was from the hometown grocery store, where everyone knew me by name.. I coulda asked for it and bet I would have gotten at least one bag.


I've fired my fair share of employees, only one for theft. They stole a box of cooking wine... but later they bragged about it, which got them fired. Who really cares about the $3 box of shitty wine?



K.

[Klebsieli]

Well, I had to muster up enough courage before I asked my employer. The fire under my ass was the fact that I would either be living in a cardboard box on the side of the road or somehow get the money. My family is a little unreliable financially since they were worse off than I was at the time. I was a little shocked at the fact that my manager was extremely willing to work with me without any hesitation. Needless to say, it did work out and I haven't been in a bind like that again.

[Anebriated]

I have asked for advances from work but I also did a lot of travel where Id be spending a few hundred a week on hotel/meals/gas/parts. Its not a big deal as long as you go about it the right way.

[4a6c1]

Take their red staplers away and send them to the basement, GEORGI!!

http://www.redstaplerchronicles.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/stapler.jpg

[Tisket]

I steal from my employer almost daily. I put pens behind my ear when I'm done writing, just makes it easier to locate whenever I have to write something again, which is fairly often. I forget it's there a lot of the time. I have an entire drawer full of work pens at home.

I wonder what my jail time would be if I'm caught.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

I've fired my fair share of employees, only one for theft. They stole a box of cooking wine... but later they bragged about it, which got them fired. Who really cares about the $3 box of shitty wine?



K.

Rofl

Yeah, most people are a, not dumb enough to steal from a kitchen when they can typically just ask if they can just have it and be pretty sure the answer is yes, and b, not brag about it if they are indeed dumb enough.

[AnticorRifling]

You did the right thing. I've had to fire a few friends for theft. Because of it I was accused of being involved and let go without official reason (man that was a blasty). Regardless if it's taking from inventory and hurting the business it's wrong. I've got no problem with people taking salvage/demo after it's off the company books for disposal because they can/want to fix it or use it or let their kids play with it or whatever but when it's on the books it's not open season.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

When I worked retail, the worst I saw was theft of hours. At Yankee Candle, the store manager would give herself 45 hours, but she only worked maybe 15. She'd just go into the computer and manually change her punch in/punch out.

I got fed up and called corporate on her, especially because my hours got cut to give HER more hours. She wasn't fired but she got a demotion and had to pay fines to the company.

[ElvenFury]

When I worked retail, the worst I saw was theft of hours. At Yankee Candle, the store manager would give herself 45 hours, but she only worked maybe 15. She'd just go into the computer and manually change her punch in/punch out.

I got fed up and called corporate on her, especially because my hours got cut to give HER more hours. She wasn't fired but she got a demotion and had to pay fines to the company.

Wow, I'm surprised. Most companies consider stealing time worthy of immediate dismissal. Especially when it's to that degree.

That also reminds me of the woman I met who got fired from Yankee Candle for cooking a big batch of chili in one of the Candle vats. She was the single most scary 400lb woman I've ever met.

[AnticorRifling]

When I worked retail, the worst I saw was theft of hours. At Yankee Candle, the store manager would give herself 45 hours, but she only worked maybe 15. She'd just go into the computer and manually change her punch in/punch out.

I got fed up and called corporate on her, especially because my hours got cut to give HER more hours. She wasn't fired but she got a demotion and had to pay fines to the company.

Worked an internal case on that not too long ago. Lady had 27 years with the company. We noticed she was doing a lot of manual adjustments to time. Started reviewing tape and could see when she was showing up. We just let her continue until we had more than enough to terminate. Only took about 5 days before the district was like yeah fuck her it's not just a once or twice thing.

[Geshron]

When I worked retail, the worst I saw was theft of hours. At Yankee Candle, the store manager would give herself 45 hours, but she only worked maybe 15. She'd just go into the computer and manually change her punch in/punch out.

I got fed up and called corporate on her, especially because my hours got cut to give HER more hours. She wasn't fired but she got a demotion and had to pay fines to the company.

I did that when I was 16 once, and got away with it. I didn't press my luck a second time.

[Warriorbird]

I got held up during a Thursday money transfer at the movie theater by an idiot kid with what I presumed was a knife. I was very glad that we hired off duty members of the Durham gang squad to run security. Kid very quickly developed a gun pointed at him, freaked, and got arrested.

[Geshron]

I got held up during a Thursday money transfer at the movie theater by an idiot kid with what I presumed was a knife. I was very glad the we hired off duty members of the Durham gang squad to run security. Kid very quickly developed a gun pointed at him, freaked, and got arrested.

pwn!!!!

[Apotheosis]

Well, we'll see what happens.. I'm going back later today, but going to be working with a different team.

I am actually trying to think of ways that I can take this to a higher authority and get a higher paying job on the basis that I can save a very large corporation a significant amount of revenue due to this little "loophole" I discovered.

[Winter]

I am actually trying to think of ways that I can take this to a higher authority and get a higher paying job on the basis that I can save a very large corporation a significant amount of revenue due to this little "loophole" I discovered.


I think you'll come across a little bit slimey if you try that.

[NocturnalRob]

I am actually trying to think of ways that I can take this to a higher authority and get a higher paying job on the basis that I can save a very large corporation a significant amount of revenue due to this little "loophole" I discovered.
i wouldn't necessarily be concerned with how you just saved your brand-new employers money (not a loophole). It'll get noted, and if you perform well at your current position, you'll be justly rewarded.


I think you'll come across a little bit slimey if you try that.
:yeahthat:

[Apotheosis]

I think you'll come across a little bit slimey if you try that.

What are you talking about?

I could potentially save a supplier 6+ figures a year solely knowing this loophole exists.. I would be a solving a problem for a vendor essentially, there's nothing slimy about that.

[Winter]

I could potentially save a supplier 6+ figures a year solely knowing this loophole exists.. I would be a solving a problem for a vendor essentially, there's nothing slimy about that.

I agree but it's how you got the infomation in the first place, granted I think you did the right thing initially, just leave it at that. Trying to get a better job via the path you've suggested will just say somthing negative about your character and hurt you in the long run.

[Apotheosis]

I agree but it's how you got the infomation in the first place, granted I think you did the right thing initially, just leave it at that. Trying to get a better job via the path you've suggested will just say somthing negative about your character and hurt you in the long run.

This is essentially a 2nd job.. I took it on part time, because it would be convenient to earn some extra $$$.... I didn't need to take it, it was a choice I made.

If this company ends up being a disaster, then at least I have other options.

[NocturnalRob]

I didn't need to take it, it was a choice I made...[a]t least I have other options.
there's that employee entitlement again...

[Drinin]

When I worked retail, the worst I saw was theft of hours. At Yankee Candle, the store manager would give herself 45 hours, but she only worked maybe 15. She'd just go into the computer and manually change her punch in/punch out.

I got fed up and called corporate on her, especially because my hours got cut to give HER more hours. She wasn't fired but she got a demotion and had to pay fines to the company.

I'm salaried, so I can't really adjust my time. If I edit anyone else's time, say to remove OT or whatever, my ass is canned.

[Incurable]

A few years ago I was working as a manager at an OfficeMax store in Florida. One Day one of my slacker employees brings me a wallet that he found on the stock truck he was unloading. I thanked him for that and put in a good note in his file. And contacted the factory and shipped the wallet back to the extremely grateful dock worker. Also, at the time I was also involved in a D&D group that met one night a week for a fun game. Well that same employee was also a friend of the DM and happened to be there. The DM decided on Pizza that night and we all got our money out to pitch in and my employee pulled out a stack of one hundred dollar bills. When he noticed I was staring he said, quite proudly, "Remember that wallet I found? Well the guy left me a tip for finding it." I was shocked almost speechless, but I stammered that taking that money was considered stealing and he had the audacity to argue that the dock worker should be glad he got the rest of his wallet back at all. I got up and left that place and immediately called my district manager and several police arrested him the next day on coming into work.

I also had both my assistant managers arrested for stealing out of the safe. Man I hated retail.

[Apotheosis]

A few years ago I was working as a manager at an OfficeMax store in Florida. One Day one of my slacker employees brings me a wallet that he found on the stock truck he was unloading. I thanked him for that and put in a good note in his file. And contacted the factory and shipped the wallet back to the extremely grateful dock worker. Also, at the time I was also involved in a D&D group that met one night a week for a fun game. Well that same employee was also a friend of the DM and happened to be there. The DM decided on Pizza that night and we all got our money out to pitch in and my employee pulled out a stack of one hundred dollar bills. When he noticed I was staring he said, quite proudly, "Remember that wallet I found? Well the guy left me a tip for finding it." I was shocked almost speechless, but I stammered that taking that money was considered stealing and he had the audacity to argue that the dock worker should be glad he got the rest of his wallet back at all. I got up and left that place and immediately called my district manager and several police arrested him the next day on coming into work.

I also had both my assistant managers arrested for stealing out of the safe. Man I hated retail.



wow.. retail sounds terrible for fraud/theft..


The only other company I worked at where there was apparent theft was a situation where the office manager (Everyone's direct supervisor, but not the owner of the company) had people punch her in early when she was going to be an hour late... other people did that, too

it was kinda fucked up and I left that company 1 year later because of the craziness that went on... everyone in that company was a thief, tax fraud, copyright fraud, the list goes on.. and I was basically not sure what to do because it was my first "Real job" out of college.

[Warriorbird]

pwn!!!!

Those gang squad guys were totally worth the high hourly figures we paid them. Southpoint's at an area that attracts theft.

[Incurable]

Not to de-rail the thread but I heard a very close argument to this one, last night in the landing.

he had the audacity to argue that the dock worker should be glad he got the rest of his wallet back at all.

In regards to rogues taking scarabs from customers without asking, I think the argument was more that the customers should be glad they don't have to pay Larton's arm and a leg free and should just get over it.
I find the arguments interestingly parallel.

[CrystalTears]

No! Not the taking of the scarab argument!

:cry:

[Sean of the Thread]

The only retail company I've worked for was Kohl's and it wasn't a problem there at all. Not to mention the Loss Prevention guy got me the job there anyways. Found shit stolen/empty boxes daily however. Great store as well and I actually liked that job rather than sitting under florescent lights all day dealing with asshole employees.



I have stolen time as Sean said by slacking on the computer but fuck it I was the Ops manager at that point. Took some longer lunches etc but I was salaried and worked around 20 hours over my schedule and was always on call so fuck em.

When I left I did clone all my programming and GUI's and shit and of course a stupid thing to say I took a copy of a leads list I generated of over a million names in case I ever needed to sell it if one of my kids or family needed major medical.

Other than that I'm clean completely. I would have narc'd the fucks too.

I wouldn't worry much about it. You may get a promotion out of it and or bonus. Or get your ass kicked by 4 guys in a parking lot on the way to the door.

[Geshron]

Those gang squad guys were totally worth the high hourly figures we paid them. Southpoint's at an area that attracts theft.

I hear you. I employed off-duty police officers for shows I ran at an Eagles club. They were fantastic security guards, and I made good friends with a few. And to help their wallets when they are underpaid was gratifying as well.

[AnticorRifling]

Speaking of theft, someone just jacked 90 blue quality gems out of my guild bank. Imma cut a bitch tonight for sure.

[ElanthianSiren]

My second job had pervasive stealing, (people backing up trucks to steal stuff and one night manager in on it), so management made a big deal about how they were putting up security cameras to stop it. They did, and they made sure every employee saw where the cameras went.

Then, after hours, the shipping recieivng manager and my best friend at the time installed pin holes. Caught them red handed with merchandise. It sucked because half the staff was fired, but it was nice because those of us who were honest got decent raises come review time.

[AnticorRifling]

We've used some pretty awesome camera set ups for internals. The best being a fellow LP that was stealing. She thought she was slick and had no idea that the pain train was speeding down the tracks. The look on her face was fucking priceless.

[Celephais]

We've used some pretty awesome camera set ups for internals. The best being a fellow LP that was stealing. She thought she was slick and had no idea that the pain train was speeding down the tracks. The look on her face was fucking priceless.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u220/mcamarata/Terry-Tate-Office-Linebacke.gif

You kill tha joe, you make s'mo!

[AnticorRifling]

Me and triple T are like twins...only I'm white and only 5'10 and we don't look alike.

[Warriorbird]

I loved the kid who we caught on camera sleeping who instead of denying it said, "But you can't put a camera in a movie theater!"

[Bhuryn]

When the cost of steel was really high last year we had people stealing raw materials and recycling them for money for awhile. Few security cameras stopped it but we never caught who was doing it.

[Mighty Nikkisaurus]

I'm salaried, so I can't really adjust my time. If I edit anyone else's time, say to remove OT or whatever, my ass is canned.

Yeah, she wasn't.

There were other issues too.

The co-manager lost her grandfather, had to take an emergency trip to Puerto Rico for the burial and such, and the day she got back she was extremely sick from all the crying, stress, etc. She couldn't keep down food before and she actually passed out in the store from dehydration.

I called 911 and after I got her conscious, I called the store manager, who said, "How can she be sick? She just got back from a vacation. I'm not coming in tonight!" and hung up. Then the next week she sulked and made a LOT of nasty comments.

She never worked any of the holidays, etc and on top of that, she would always have us do stuff the night we closed. I had to stay at work until 8 on Christmas eve even though the mall closed at 6:30, because she didn't want to wait until the 27th like corporate had directed to change out our signage and decorations. Except she wasn't even there, she called and told us to and that was that.

God I hated that b!tch. I would prank call her with the co-manager all. the. time, which was fun and some consolation.

[Apotheosis]

Well, I got moved to a diff. team today, the people were on the level and the clients had higher budgets so hopefully this group pans out.. i concealed my relationship to the execs in order to remain a bit more conspicuous.

Hopefully I can make this particular gig pan out and turn into a full time position.


I really should be an organizational + operations consultant though, I am truly missing my calling.

[Apotheosis]

God I hated that b!tch. I would prank call her with the co-manager all. the. time, which was fun and some consolation.

That's choice..

needless to say, when I was in highschool and slinging pizzas... prank calls were always necessary :-D