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Jaimaltz
07-26-2009, 08:21 AM
With the UFC's takeover of Affliction, we still don't know if they have acquired any of the Affliction contracts. If they did actually obtain them, we could see Fedor in the UFC - but not against Brock Lesnar.

Dana would never give Fedor the Lesnar fight unless Fedor was locked down on a UFC written contract to ensure a champion's clause so that Fedor couldn't just walk away as the heavyweight champion and start the troubles all over again that the UFC faced with Couture. But, if they do have Fedor's one fight contract from Affliction, they could do something with it.

Enter Lyoto Machida. :thinking:

There are several roles that fighters take in the MMA - Champions, contenders, gatekeepers, cannon fodder (also known as tomato cans) - and the UFC is no different. There is another one though, the role of a dark assassin. Machida has played this role before against Tito Ortiz when Tito was leaving the UFC. Gray Maynard is playing the same role against Roger Huerta at Ultimate Fight Night 19.

The purpose of this role is to deal with fighters that are out of political favor with the UFC, and are leaving the promotion for whatever reason. In these cases, the UFC wants to make the fighter leaving as worthless to other promotions as possible, and send them out with a loss.

The UFC's dark assassin has to fit several criteria:

1. They have to be good. Really good. They also have to match up well with the opponent in question.
2. A loss by the DA wouldn't can't the UFC too badly, but a win would greatly hurt the opponent.
3. They have to make the opponent look bad in the process.

I can't think of any fighters in the UFC that fit this criteria against Fedor better than Machida. He's a terrible matchup for Fedor for many reasons.

1. He's very smart and disciplined - he'd never make the stupid flying knee mistake AA did against Fedor.
2. The whole package of his standup skills and takedown defense is awesome. He's an expert at controlling distancing and range with his kicks and Karate style, and can easily outpoint all but the top K1 fighters. I don't see him knocking out or submitting Fedor, but I can definitely see Machida outpointing him. The fact that he doesn't telegraph his strikes makes him very difficult to take down even while landing leg/body/head kicks. Fedor sets his takedowns up by using his striking to set up clinches, and then using throws from there. He won't outstrike Machida, and if it does go to the clinch, Machida's takedown defense due to his Sumo training is second only to GSP in the UFC.
3. Even if it goes to the ground, Machida should be able to survive the round with his Black Belt in BJJ.
4. Machida should only giving up 15 lbs to Fedor.

If Fedor loses to Machida, his P4P ranking takes a nose dive. No one who loses to a fighter in a lower weight class stays at the top of those rankings. Even BJ Penn went down in rankings after his fight with GSP, and he was moving up a weight class! Not to mention that when Machida beats you, you look terrible. In fact, he makes you look like an amateur. If Fedor wins, no titles change place as the fight would occur at heavyweight, and Fedor was "supposed" to win anyway. The UFC could spin that and still be in the same situation as now - in other words, nothing to lose. In fact, they can now turn the heat up on Fedor and his management in the media to sign a UFC written contract in order to set up a huge fight with Lesnar.

If Machida wins, watch for a showdown between Machida and Lesnar. Dana wants to build Lesnar up, and if Lesnar can beat the guy who beat Fedor, he can take his claim as the #1 heavyweight. It's win-win for the UFC, as even if Machida won that fight, they now have an undefeated, top P4P fighter holding belts in two weight classes.

But I don't think Machida would win the fight with Lesnar. Sure Machida has way better standup, but it'll be worthless in this fight. As good as Machida's takedown defense is, when you're going up against a former NCAA Division 1 wrestling champion, who is freak athlete in his physical prime, and outweighs you by 60+ lbs, you're going to the mat. From there, Lesnar could use his physical advantage and wrestling knowledge to nullify the BJJ Black Belt skills from Machida the same way he did to Mir. Machida doesn't have the natural strength and strong hips Fedor does and would be screwed with Lesnar on top of him.

Letting Fedor fight Lesnar would be an enormous gamble at this point, that the UFC will not risk without a champion clause in Fedor's contract. How many times have we seen Fedor pull a leg lock or an arm bar out of his ass with a talented wrestler on top of him? This may be a case of circular dominance, where Machida would beat Fedor, Lesnar would be Machida, and Fedor would beat Lesnar. If the UFC has Fedor's one fight contract from their Affliction deal, they could take advantage of this. If the plan succeeds, Fedor would be tossed out on his ass unless he signs the UFC contract, and mostly forgotten by the casual fans.

Machida has expressed his interest in fighting Lesnar to test himself, and would definitely accept those fights. I know I'd certainly watch them for sure.

StrayRogue
07-26-2009, 08:40 AM
I love lolspiracies.

Jaimaltz
07-26-2009, 09:02 AM
They're fun to write.

Geshron
07-26-2009, 10:05 AM
Machida is my favorite definitely. Not sure about all that though.

Fallen
07-26-2009, 11:23 AM
You wrote that yourself? I think it would make for some interesting matches if such events ever took place. Good stuff.

Jaimaltz
07-26-2009, 11:50 AM
Machida been referred to as Dana's Assassin ever since the Tito Ortiz fight, so it's not like I made up the concept or anything. I just expanded it a bit, and tried to be entertaining with the COL reference and implied UFC bashing.

Androidpk
07-26-2009, 12:57 PM
Dana has said a couple times that if Fedor comes to the UFC his first fight will be a championship match with Brock.

Jaimaltz
07-26-2009, 01:16 PM
If Fedor signs a UFC contract, he will get Brock. But if the UFC somehow acquires Affliction's contracts (which don't have champions clauses), Dana would either discard the Fedor contract, or create a scenario as mentioned in this thread.

It's unlikely Fedor's going to sign with the UFC anyway. His management has publicly stated that Fedor will not sign a UFC contract for any amount of money unless all his fights are co-promoted with M-1 Global. The UFC doesn't do co-promotions, so unless Fedor somehow gets new management, it's not going to happen.

Androidpk
07-26-2009, 01:50 PM
I guess we will all find out this friday. I think White is going to give in to Fedor's demands, simply because a Fedor/Brock ticket would be huge $$$$$.

Bhuryn
07-26-2009, 03:29 PM
Now, I wouldn't put it past Dana to try and invalidate Fedor, but he's not going to do it at the expense ($) of a Machida. Why, exactly, would Dana waste a Machida fight against someone in favor of a fight within the weight class that could headline a PPV all by itself? Fedor can headline a PPV by name alone, Machida has the title thing (and a growing following) going for him.

If anything you're going to get the Fedor/Couture. The bad part is it'll be awhile if they do that (which will probably make Fedor mad) since Couture has a scheduled fight already. Barring that, maybe a prequel to the title fight, Carwin, etc. Gives Dana the option if Fedor wins to dangle the belt in front of him, if he loses he'll be forever convinced that Fedor sucks.

We'll just have to disagree on the matchup, I think Machida would actually a good matchup for fedor. He does have a BJJ blackbelt (not that it's matter much in the past for Fedor's opponents) but it's from Walter Broca, legit, but it's not a Gracie Barra Blackbelt. I think you're ignoring Fedors Sambo skills and seriously undermining the difference in strength between the two. Fedor is just as accurate as Machida's and carries a lot more power.

Donquix
07-26-2009, 03:42 PM
Now, I wouldn't put it past Dana to try and invalidate Fedor, but he's not going to do it at the expense ($) of a Machida. Why, exactly, would Dana waste a Machida fight against someone in favor of a fight within the weight class that could headline a PPV all by itself? Fedor can headline a PPV by name alone, Machida has the title thing (and a growing following) going for him.

If anything you're going to get the Fedor/Couture. The bad part is it'll be awhile if they do that (which will probably make Fedor mad) since Couture has a scheduled fight already. Barring that, maybe a prequel to the title fight, Carwin, etc. Gives Dana the option if Fedor wins to dangle the belt in front of him, if he loses he'll be forever convinced that Fedor sucks.

We'll just have to disagree on the matchup, I think Machida would actually a good matchup for fedor. He does have a BJJ blackbelt (not that it's matter much in the past for Fedor's opponents) but it's from Walter Broca, legit, but it's not a Gracie Barra Blackbelt. I think you're ignoring Fedors Sambo skills and seriously undermining the difference in strength between the two. Fedor is just as accurate as Machida's and carries a lot more power.

Fedor has a lot more power, that's for sure, and he is very accurate (lol arlovski) but...

i swear to christ machida's hands are like laser guided. Dude never misses.

Bhuryn
07-26-2009, 03:56 PM
Fedor has a lot more power, that's for sure, and he is very accurate (lol arlovski) but...

i swear to christ machida's hands are like laser guided. Dude never misses.

Laser guided noodles to fedor =P.

SHAFT
07-26-2009, 04:40 PM
I'd rather see A. Silva against Fedor than anyone else besides Brock