Planned cmans.

[Stunseed]

I went through and kinda at a glance looked at what cman's I'd want.

Bond at 5.
Wspec at 4.
Surge at 4.
Pmast at 3.
Tough at 3.
Mobility at 2.
Focus at 4.
Truehand at 4.
Sbash at 2.
Sunder at 4.

Totalling 199 CMAN points. My Warrior is TWC blunts.

Anyone else have their paths set or have input?

This is where I'm at with level 36.

Skill name Mnemonic Ranks
Specialization I wspec1 3
Weapon Bonding bonding 5
Combat Toughness toughness 2
Surge of Strength surge 2
Parry Mastery pmastery 2

[Durgrimst]

TWC+parry mastery is badass

[Danical]

1) Why SBash?

2) Sunder is ridiculously good. I'd get 5 ranks in it. It puts creatures in something like up to 5-7 RT (but not players).

3) Truehand is a stamina hog. I wouldn't use it.

4) Focus is somewhat of a waste. 8 TD really isn't going to matter much at cap unless you're at the cusp already. It might be better spent at Wspec 5 so you can get that extra 2 CML to help prevent spells from creatures via feint and whatnot.

[Danical]

Also, if you're going to hunt in the temple I would suggest getting Charge for defensive purposes.

[Danical]

You also need 1 rank of MBlow as a prereq for Sunder.

[Stunseed]

< 2) Sunder is ridiculously good. I'd get 5 ranks in it. It puts creatures in something like up to 5-7 RT (but not players). >

Need 2 ranks of sbash, krakii has on it. Or I got charge mixed up.

[Danical]

KP is wrong. SCharge is 2 ranks of Sbash as a prereq.

[The Ponzzz]

I just hope the CMAN review lets some of the CMAN costs come down so I can pick up 2 or 3 new CMANs.

[Donquix]

My plan...


Cap Current (45)
Coup de Grace 5 4
Combit Mobility 2 0
Crowd Press 4 3
Parry Mastery 3 3
Wspec (sais) 5 4
Surge of Strength 5 0
Twin Hammerfists 4 3
Bonding 5 0


Crowd press is very good and i like it but mainly for RP, though it's pretty amazing against bolting/ranged mobs as a TWC user. I'm still deciding on surge/hammerfists...i may switch them. But with 2 sais and rank 5 wspec and bonding, i think i'll be fine with 4 ranks of it as my knockdown of choice.

I might have to drop something or reduce some ranks in favor of charge for defense, as mentioned above though...not sure. it's a ways off :)

[Baelog]

For Sunder, you need Mblow as a prereq.

Sblow is pretty good too, since you can RT practically anything.

[B2]

KP is wrong. SCharge is 2 ranks of Sbash as a prereq.

On the Shield Charge page on KP, it does list 2 ranks of sbash as the prereq. Is it listed somewhere else besides that page where it's incorrect?

I threw the cman pages up there last year because I was annoyed that they didn't exist. My cman knowledge is pretty limited, so it's pretty much what the play.net page has and what I could steal from these and the official boards. The pages are far from complete, but at least they exist. If something's wrong I'll gladly change it if you don't want to become a KP editor.

[Danical]

On the Shield Charge page on KP, it does list 2 ranks of sbash as the prereq. Is it listed somewhere else besides that page where it's incorrect?

I threw the cman pages up there last year because I was annoyed that they didn't exist. My cman knowledge is pretty limited, so it's pretty much what the play.net page has and what I could steal from these and the official boards. The pages are far from complete, but at least they exist. If something's wrong I'll gladly change it if you don't want to become a KP editor.

I was just going off of what the numbah 1 Stunnah said.

[Bhuryn]

I'll have to second anyone saying not to bother with TH, I hate TH.

[Stunseed]

Truehand will prolly be used in CvC, as people in Plat seem to want to wear every spell in existance to fight someone 30 levels under you.

Grain of salt and whatnot.

[Danical]

At that point I'd get ranks in the CMan of your choice that uses weapon flares and get feras. Hamstring works out well, generally.

[Stunseed]

Hamstring + Blunts = fail

Bonded weapon is a mechanical flaring 4x star.
Off-hand is either.....

a. 4x mdw star
b. 4x fire-flaring star.
c. 4x dcw +5 stam recover warhammer.

[Danical]

Is there a cman that will flare for blunts?

[Cap'nDrak]

This...

It's pretty decent for inducing a Level 2 on a critters head. It stops some casters.

Skill Name: Subdual Strike
Mnemonic: sstrike
Hostile: Yes
Stamina Cost: Base 12 (-6 Rank 1, -4 Rank 2, -2 Rank 3)
Other Requirements: A suitable weapon to beat someone over the head with.
Available to: Warriors, Rogues, Wizards, Clerics, Empaths, Sorcerers, Rangers, Bards, Savants, Monks, Paladins.
Prerequisites:
None
CMP Cost:
Rank 1: (Squares) 2 (Semis) 3 (Pures) 4
Rank 2: (Squares) 3 (Semis) 4 (Pures) 6
Rank 3: (Squares) 4 (Semis) 6 (Pures) 8
Rank 4: (Squares) 5 (Semis) 7 (Pures) 10
Rank 5: (Squares) 6 (Semis) 9 (Pures) 12
Description: Attempt to knock a critter in the head with your weapon in order to stun it, reduce its perception, slow it down, and do some damage.

[RelentlessJew]

Yeah, what the Cap'n said.

Subdual strike is the tits, and even pures can use it.

Haste + Subdual strike is the new Haste + feint for warmages :-)

[Loyrl]

This...

It's pretty decent for inducing a Level 2 on a critters head. It stops some casters.

Skill Name: Subdual Strike
Mnemonic: sstrike
Hostile: Yes
Stamina Cost: Base 12 (-6 Rank 1, -4 Rank 2, -2 Rank 3)
Other Requirements: A suitable weapon to beat someone over the head with.
Available to: Warriors, Rogues, Wizards, Clerics, Empaths, Sorcerers, Rangers, Bards, Savants, Monks, Paladins.
Prerequisites:
None
CMP Cost:
Rank 1: (Squares) 2 (Semis) 3 (Pures) 4
Rank 2: (Squares) 3 (Semis) 4 (Pures) 6
Rank 3: (Squares) 4 (Semis) 6 (Pures) 8
Rank 4: (Squares) 5 (Semis) 7 (Pures) 10
Rank 5: (Squares) 6 (Semis) 9 (Pures) 12
Description: Attempt to knock a critter in the head with your weapon in order to stun it, reduce its perception, slow it down, and do some damage.

Do you need to be a tall race to hit everything with this, I am a dwarf? I am pretty much done with the main cmans now and I am still thinking on what I want to put points into for the future, so far it looks like charge defense...

maxed wspec1
maxed bond
maxed mobility
maxed parry
maxed toughness
maxed surge

7 points left atm.

[Caleanon]

At level 51, I have:

Skill name Mnemonic Ranks
Combat Movement cmovement 5
Specialization I wspec1 4
Weapon Bonding bonding 5
Combat Mobility mobility 2

Available Combat Maneuver Training Points: 17

Any suggestions on what to put those available 17 points into, and what to plan for down the road?

[Stunseed]

Bump.

Here I am at 50, wondering what I should do next.

Auvreaian, your Combat Maneuver training is as follows:

Skill name Mnemonic Ranks
Mighty Blow mblow 1
Sunder Shield sunder 3
Specialization I wspec1 3
Weapon Bonding bonding 5
Combat Mobility mobility 1
Combat Toughness toughness 2
Surge of Strength surge 1
Parry Mastery pmastery 3

Available Combat Maneuver Training Points: 4

I'm not really uphunting, as in Plat you really don't want to take the chance in case no one's around to rescue your ass.

Suggestions?