417 and 119 Sorcerery Science

[zhelas]

I use 417 all the time to dispell open voids. Since I started playing back in 1998 I rarely ever used 119.

Some of you probably already know Spiritual and Elemental Magic don't like to mix. I vaguely remember a post on the officials warning of the mixture of these two spells.

Never have I mixed the two until lastnight.


You gesture at Xxxx.
The bright luminescence fades from around Xxxx.
The elemental aura around Xxxx wavers.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>119 xxxx
Voodoo '119 xxxx' to 'PREPARE 119', 'CAST AT xxxx'.
You utter a light chant and raise your hands, beckoning the lesser spirits to aid you with the Spirit Dispel spell...
Your spell is ready.
>
You gesture at Xxxx.
The light blue glow leaves Xxxx.
The hazy film around Xxxx fluxes chaotically!
... 75 points of damage!
Xxxx's skeletal structure and muscle tissue reduced to fine ash!

* Xxxx drops dead at your feet!

The silvery luminescence fades from around Xxxx.
The deep blue glow leaves Xxxx.

Someone screams, "Murder by Zhelas! Call the First Sergeant!"

So to see if this would be consistant on a creature, I went to Stronghold.


Voodoo '417 mys' to 'PREPARE 417', 'CAST AT mys'.
You trace a simple rune while intoning the mystical phrase for Elemental Dispel...
Your spell is ready.
>
You gesture at an Illoke mystic.
The brilliant luminescence fades from around an Illoke mystic.
The elemental aura around an Illoke mystic wavers.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>119 mys
Voodoo '119 mys' to 'PREPARE 119', 'CAST AT mys'.
>
You utter a light chant and raise your hands, beckoning the lesser spirits to aid you with the Spirit Dispel spell...
Your spell is ready.
>
You gesture at an Illoke mystic.
An Illoke mystic returns to normal color.
The hazy film around an Illoke mystic fluxes chaotically!
... 50 points of damage!
The Illoke mystic's leg is consumed in an intense field of plasma reducing it to ash!
The Illoke mystic is stunned!
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

So when you cast 417 on a player or a creature, "The elemental aura around Xxxx wavers." While this is present, if you cast 119 as the next spell on someone. This happens "The hazy film around Xxxx fluxes chaotically!" And can lead to thier death.

Peace

[zhelas]

If folks are wondering....ZOMG Sorcerers should be nerfed nerfed nerfed. It is weak attack if anything. Probably level based. First the Mystic was only stunned.

For shits and grins I went into the temple to see if it is at all practical to use.
>417 rad
Voodoo '417 rad' to 'PREPARE 417', 'CAST AT rad'.
You trace a simple rune while intoning the mystical phrase for Elemental Dispel...
Your spell is ready.
>
You gesture at a triton radical.
The warm glow fades from around a triton radical.
The elemental aura around a triton radical wavers.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>119 rad
Voodoo '119 rad' to 'PREPARE 119', 'CAST AT rad'.
You utter a light chant and raise your hands, beckoning the lesser spirits to aid you with the Spirit Dispel spell...
Your spell is ready.
>
You gesture at a triton radical.
The very powerful look leaves a triton radical.
The white light leaves a triton radical.
The hazy film around a triton radical fluxes chaotically!
... 15 points of damage!
Precise burst of energy causes the triton radical's neck to blacken and peel.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.


Voodoo '417 mag' to 'PREPARE 417', 'CAST AT mag'.
You trace a simple rune while intoning the mystical phrase for Elemental Dispel...
Your spell is ready.
>
You gesture at a triton magus.
The bright luminescence fades from around a triton magus.
The elemental aura around a triton magus wavers.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.
>119 mag
Voodoo '119 mag' to 'PREPARE 119', 'CAST AT mag'.
You utter a light chant and raise your hands, beckoning the lesser spirits to aid you with the Spirit Dispel spell...
Your spell is ready.
>
You gesture at a triton magus.
A triton magus seems to lose an aura of confidence.
The hazy film around a triton magus fluxes chaotically!
... 10 points of damage!
Blistering strike to leg shrivels skin and causes excruciating pain.
Cast Roundtime 3 Seconds.

Peace

[Swami71]

Works better PvP than it does against critters in my experience.

[Izzy]

Rofl. Old news, sir.

Now if they would just get a similar (yet vastly more awesome) effect on 230/530. Or whichever the two new multi-dispels are.

Edit: directly from the docs (on 119):
Combining this magic with Elemental Dispel has been known to cause negative and potentially dangerous effects on the target.

A similar note is on the docs for 417.

[TheLastShamurai]

I actually died from that once in a warcamp. Was the most interesting camp death I ever had.

And then they ate me. :(

[Bhuryn]

They should change it so if you cast elemental dispel, then spirit dispel it'll continue to pulse if you alternate dispel.