Anyone notice scripts now poach?

[Devon]

I dont know whats up with this... But usually this works and its been actin weird lately...

Huntr1:
move southwest
Counter Add 1
Put Look
Match Huntr%c Also Here:
Match KOrc a lesser orc
Match KBorc burrow orc
Match Huntr%c Obvious paths:
Matchwait

Now, that used to just go on to the next room if someone was there. But for some reason it hasn't been moving and just kills.

You switch to SF?

[Ooga Chaka]

You'll stop having problems if you don't join the legions of lazy foogs who can't type for themselves. For god's sake man, all you gotta do is sit there and push buttons. Even macros are okay. Jeezus, then whine when your hunting scripts don't work. ROFL

[Varsus]

Some people play gemstone to RP, not to hunt.

I let my scripts hunt. I RP

That and I doubt you can get 25 trains in a few weeks sitting infront of your cpu doing all the typing.

-Varsus (heh)

[Devon]

To Ooga Chaka the Scripter Hater- I really didn't ask for your opinion, nor do I really care.

No I hate SF! T_T But I guess i'll have to switch to it eventually. Xygon keeps tellin me about some cool things.

Also, RangerD1 are you solkern? I'm thinkin about tryin his old SN. He's a really god friend of mine. peace!

[Latrinsorm]

Is the H in here capitalized in game? That's all I can figger.

[Galleazzo]

Originally posted by Ooga Chaka
You'll stop having problems if you don't join the legions of lazy foogs who can't type for themselves. For god's sake man, all you gotta do is sit there and push buttons. Even macros are okay. Jeezus, then whine when your hunting scripts don't work. ROFL

Word.

No one HAS to script.

[Soulpieced]

Most people who are against scripts know nothing about programming or the satisfaction of creating something completely automated.

[Galleazzo]

Originally posted by Soulpieced
Most people who are against scripts know nothing about programming or the satisfaction of creating something completely automated.
And some folk write their own travel scripts, they just don't feel like being lazy ass cheaters who robohunt to cap.

Heh..no i'm not Solkern

[J-Tech]

I dunno, but this kat named Ryku scripts Kiramon and he keeps poaching my fucking shit...I should just take all his kills when i see him hunting. HEH HEH HEH

J.T.

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by Galleazzo
And some folk write their own travel scripts, they just don't feel like being lazy ass cheaters who robohunt to cap. Yeah, as it clearly states in simu policy that SCRIPTING IS CHEATING HAXX0RS. Er, actually there's nothing wrong with scripting. Hmmmm.:stupid:

[The Sponge]

I want all the scripts I can get. Hunting is boring and I want my character to rox0rs. So if I can get a script to hunt while I watch TV or screw around that's kewl.

[Latrinsorm]

AFK scripting is BIG against policy. So no TV. Try Nestron or something. :D

[Xcalibur]

I scripted therefore I was.

[Reyek]

I dont know how ryku is taking your kills i never have a problem with him when i hunt there. even though im on script too.

[Galleazzo]

Oh I remember him. Guy AFK scripts in there all the time. His script doesn't poach though. If you swing at one of HIS critters he just runs.

[J-Tech]

Originally posted by Latrinsorm
AFK scripting is BIG against policy. So no TV. Try Nestron or something. :D

When i lived with my dad back home, my monitor sat on one the left side of my desk, about 6 inces from the edge, and on the right side of my desk, about 2 feet away from my monitor my TV sat about 6 inces from the edge of the desk, and my stereo was right behind me, and my PC was hooked up through my stereo, so i never had to leave my room back then, hehehehehe, TV+GS or Music+GS, so i could script and watch TV and still be able to watch for GM's....::snicker::

J.T.

[Reyek]

I dunno about you but i can do more then 1 thing at a time... watch tv play ps2 script gemstone( and watch it) or do college reading. we have multi segement brains for a reason people!

[J-Tech]

But when buffy comes on, all comes to a hold in the life of Reyek.

J.T.

[Reyek]

You know damned well Sarah Michelle Gellar is Hottness ;)

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by Reyek
I dunno about you but i can do more then 1 thing at a time... watch tv play ps2 script gemstone( and watch it) or do college reading. we have multi segement brains for a reason people! Some people have too much crap on their desk to fit a computer AND a Tv. Let's just say I'm really really really glad I have a laptop. :D

[J-Tech]

Originally posted by Latrinsorm

Originally posted by Reyek
I dunno about you but i can do more then 1 thing at a time... watch tv play ps2 script gemstone( and watch it) or do college reading. we have multi segement brains for a reason people! Some people have too much crap on their desk to fit a computer AND a Tv. Let's just say I'm really really really glad I have a laptop. :D

I use to run my PC multi-monitored with 3 monitors hooked up to it and all 3 monitors sat in a row on my desk. :) And i'ma messy fucker, so if i can find space to fit 3 monitors on my desk, you can find space to fit 1 monitor and a TV.

J.T.

[Reyek]

Hmm lets see 2 desktop Pc's 1 laptop 2 printers and a scanner. 2 feet away... 32 inch tv w/ ps2 and DVD player... nope not enough toys... and i can still concentrate. :::mutters something about hottness::

[Xcalibur]

Originally posted by Reyek
You know damned well Sarah Michelle Gellar is Hottness ;)

I'd bang 100 times more that big Rosy o'donnel than that fake blonde.

To remain on topic: I can only agree.

[Reyek]

I use to run my PC multi-monitored with 3 monitors hooked up to it and all 3 monitors sat in a row on my desk. :) And i'ma messy fucker, so if i can find space to fit 3 monitors on my desk, you can find space to fit 1 monitor and a TV.

J.T.

I got a pic of your soda can pile to prove the messy fucker part ...
http://members.cox.net/corruptedmind/01010003.jpg

and his desk setup when we lived together...

http://members.cox.net/corruptedmind/monitor.jpg

[J-Tech]

Oh man, i cant belive you have those pics!!!!!!!!!!!! I need you to upload those to FTP for me...i'll give you username and password later.

J.T.

[J-Tech]

By the way, that aws the small stack of soda cans, remember it got to 3 rows high like that before you made me throw em out?

J.T.

[Latrinsorm]

If you can see your desk, you aren't that messy. For all I know, my desk could have changed colors.

SMG isn't that bad, really. I mean, she's no Charisma Carpenter, but you can't beat the best. :D

[Reyek]

didnt have any shots of the 3 stacks high for some reasons. but i'll upload whereever

[Devon]

So simply put, no body here knows anything about scripting and therefore cannot help me with my problem. Thank you -_-! If anyone here can resolve my scripting problem you can either reply here or hit me at New 05 King on AIM

[Bobmuhthol]

I think a LOT of us could fix it easily.

We just don't want to.

[TheEschaton]

You make the wizard white with black text?


Interesting. ALl that brightness would hurt my head.

And that neon green on white? Ugh.

-TheE-

[Reyek]

i could fix it. i just rather not.

[Reyek]

ok BAH you got me....

Also here:

reason it isnt working is because you put...

Match Huntr%c Also Here:

its case sensitive.

[J-Tech]

Ya, white with black text, it's how i've played for the past 8 years, and i dont plan on changing, haha!

J.T.

[Bobmuhthol]

match 1 hahahaha
match 2 lolzd00d
put exp
matchwait

1:
echo 1
exit

2:
echo 2
exit

>
.reyek

[Press the ESCape key to abort script.]
exp
Level: 24 Deeds: 0
Experience: 687041 Deaths this level: 6
Exp. until next: 37959 Death Recovery: 0
Mental TPs: 30 Fame: 1974875
Physical TPs: 18 Mana: 21/21 max

Your mind is as clear as a bell.
[Script]>HAHAHAHA1

[Script finished!]

[Reyek]

wtf is that script for?

[Bobmuhthol]

To prove it's not case sensitive?

[Reyek]

well that was a freaky way to do it.

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by Reyek
well that was a freaky way to do it. There's three ways to do something: the right way, the wrong way, and TEH 808mu70|_ WAY!!11

I had a really cool M, but apparently we can't have forward slashes in this country.

[Bobmuhthol]

<<808mu70|_>>

Who the fuck taught you 1337?

808/\/\|_||-|7|-|0|_

[Latrinsorm]

How the hell did you get those forwards slashes to work?!? I spent like 30 min trying!! Well more like 30 seconds, but still. Scripts don't poach.

[Plo]

Originally posted by Galleazzo

Originally posted by Soulpieced
Most people who are against scripts know nothing about programming or the satisfaction of creating something completely automated.
And some folk write their own travel scripts, they just don't feel like being lazy ass cheaters who robohunt to cap.


Just as a reference, not that scripting is all that difficult, but the complexity involved in writing a travel script, versus the complexity involved with writing a hunting script are two insanely differing levels. Fact of the matter is that the script is a far more efficient hunter then i will ever be. That is undeniable.

[Bobmuhthol]

U SUX0R AT HUNTINGX0R

[Plo]

Fair enough, but I rOXOr at SCRIPTINGXOR

[Devon]

Originally posted by Reyek
ok BAH you got me....

Also here:

reason it isnt working is because you put...

Match Huntr%c Also Here:

its case sensitive.

Are you sure? Just read the post but last time I checked. Nothing is case sensitive... or is that only with the stuff you use in the script like (PUT, MATCH, MATCHWAIT, COUNTER ADD, ECT..)

[Fengus]

Originally posted by Soulpieced
Most people who are against scripts know nothing about programming or the satisfaction of creating something completely automated.

I doubt that, I am a programmer and I know the satisfaction of creating something automated, but thats bogus at any rate, I'm sure at least 99% of the users of scripts have not written them.

The problem with scripts in my mind is that the language available is severely restrained which creates a lot of half-assed attempts at scripting.

But I really don't see what sort of satisfaction you would get out of creation. All you have is some very simple flow and a word matcher. I've written more complex regular expressions than some of the hunter scripts I've seen here. Now if you are just some punk ass kid that took the elective Java programming class it could be quite an accomplishment, but otherwise its just abusive behavior. This is a MMOG, where the multiplayer is expected to be human.


If you are purely interested in automation there are literally hundreds of avenues you can go to fulfil that satisfaction, there are many bot wars online where fellow players design and program bots specifically to do battle with each other and against enviornments. Not to mention the real thing if you are an engineer type.

[Reyek]

Originally posted by Fengus

Originally posted by Soulpieced
Most people who are against scripts know nothing about programming or the satisfaction of creating something completely automated.

I doubt that, I am a programmer and I know the satisfaction of creating something automated, but thats bogus at any rate, I'm sure at least 99% of the users of scripts have not written them.

The problem with scripts in my mind is that the language available is severely restrained which creates a lot of half-assed attempts at scripting.

But I really don't see what sort of satisfaction you would get out of creation. All you have is some very simple flow and a word matcher. I've written more complex regular expressions than some of the hunter scripts I've seen here. Now if you are just some punk ass kid that took the elective Java programming class it could be quite an accomplishment, but otherwise its just abusive behavior. This is a MMOG, where the multiplayer is expected to be human.


If you are purely interested in automation there are literally hundreds of avenues you can go to fulfil that satisfaction, there are many bot wars online where fellow players design and program bots specifically to do battle with each other and against enviornments. Not to mention the real thing if you are an engineer type.

well i know a few people out there are running script, or have ran a script that i wrote or helped write. But any hunting script i wrote, i did on my own.

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by Fengus
But I really don't see what sort of satisfaction you would get out of creation. Satisfaction is not derived from creating the best X ever. Satisfaction is derived from creating an X while meeting or exceeding the limits of one's ability. I hope you never have kids, because they're going to be pretty depressed if you have that kind of attitude.

[Fengus]

Originally posted by Latrinsorm
Satisfaction is derived from creating an X while meeting or exceeding the limits of one's ability...


If you read the rest of that paragraph you would have read: unless you are some punk ass that took the elective java class in college. Thus a hunter script would be quite an accomplishment.

Now this being in reply to another posters comments about programmers, in context this is to mean while you may have people that could have a sense of accomplishment by writing a hunter script the simplicity involved would not classify as an accomplishment to anyone that considers themselves a programmer.

If you write the editorial piece for your local church's newsletter you may consider yourself a writer, but really now lets be realistic.

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by Fengus
If you read the rest of that paragraph you would have read: unless you are some punk ass that took the elective java class in college.Yes, I read the rest of the paragraph. Regardless of the state of my ass, I have not taken a java course of any kind. Thus, I am not one of the people you describe, yet I still feel satisfied when I punch in my hunting script and wipe out trolls like nobody's business. I do not now and never have considered myself a programmer. I am still overwhelmed with a sense of satisfaction.

[Mistomeer]

I've yet to meet someone that is capable of writing good scripts that is against script hunting. A movement script isn't shit. Anyone can punch in "move se" etc into notepad. Writing a script that spells up, hunts, and rests is a bit more complicated.

[Atlanteax]

I script just about everything I do, even hunting.

However, the difference is that my Hunting style is still controlled by me...

Example:

.attack
put ambush %1 head
put search %1
exit

I use macros to stance off, then script, then stance def... as otherwise, I'm stuck adding "pause 1" which makes it seem to take too long, and exposes me to counter attacks.

So I end up hitting 3 macros in a row:
stance off\\r
{=.attack vaesp}
stance def\\r

.

I have at least 30 of those "mini scripts" like .locate

The .attack script ends up very useful in Invasion situation where I just type .attack xxxx instead of altering my macros which are set for hunting.

.

I save the huge scripts for traveling, spelling-up, that sort of thing.

[Edited on 3-10-2004 by Atlanteax]

[Bobmuhthol]

<<I'm stuck adding "pause 1" which makes it seem to take too long, and exposes me to counter attacks.>>

There's a waitfor command for a reason.

[Atlanteax]

Originally posted by Mistomeer
I've yet to meet someone that is capable of writing good scripts that is against script hunting. A movement script isn't shit. Anyone can punch in "move se" etc into notepad. Writing a script that spells up, hunts, and rests is a bit more complicated.

I'm against script-hunting... in regard of someone using one massive script for the whole hunting experience.

It would definately annoy me if I can't interact with the PC if the player is AFK, or if there's some situation where I'm stunned, or need help dragging someone... and the person is just totally unresponsive.

Especially if the person ends up all talkative and everything at the Resting Spot.

That and I'd personally rather have the afk-scripting-zombies NOT in Gemstone, as they contribute nothing, and the soul ends up being replaced by a grade-A twit later... which ends up detracting from the Gemstone experience.

Usually I just leave such PCs on the ground where they are if they're dead (or stunned/etc) and move on...

... and when they ask me why I didn't rescue them... I just go "hey, you never respond to me out there, so I'm not going to intervene for you."

[ogurty]

i wonder why no one answered the original guy's question

[Fengus]

Originally posted by ogurty
i wonder why no one answered the original guy's question


SF at least doesn't appear to be case sensitive so this guys problem lies elsewhere. I doubt many people here that have both ESP and knowledge of debugging hunter scripts chose to post.

[ogurty]

well the answer is obvious..you need to separate the match fields if you want the script to not poach..otherwise it attacks before it sees whether another person is in the room...

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by Atlanteax
I'm against script-huntingScript-hunting doesn't mean AFK (to me anyways). Script hunting means I'm probably reading the boards while trolls fall beneath the punishing swath of my blade in the background. If I happen to run past a deader (or someone takes a swing at me) I'll alt-tabbify my way over and help or kill them. I'm not instantaneously interacting with them, but that would be an unreasonable expectation.

[Bobmuhthol]

<<Script hunting means I'm probably reading the boards while trolls fall beneath the punishing swath of my blade in the background.>>

By not having the game window open and viewable, you basically are AFK. You are to anyone that's in GS, anyway.

[Latrinsorm]

Originally posted by Bobmuhthol
By not having the game window open and viewableBy moving my pointer to the edge of the window, I can resize said window, thus allowing me to see two things at once. Truly, I can no longer view my right and left hand windows, but I find that it is a rare occasion when someone tries to communicate to me through them. The tough part is when lag kicks in and it turns out someone's been interrogating me for the past five minutes while I stand there like a mamalupe.

[Frostravin]

One possible issue could be some rooms dont say Also here:

some say "Also in the room"

that could be an issue. just my heads up

[Deathravin]

My scripts more often give anybody else hunting with me more kills than me just by default. Anytime I see anybody else in a room or a disk, I run. So even though I chase critters everywhere, if it runs into somebody elses room, i ditch my maelstrom and keep running. So if somebody IS poaching, their script sucks.

[Deathravin]

Huntr1:
move southwest
Counter Add 1
Put Look
Match Huntr%c Also here:
Match Huntr%c Also in the room:
Match KOrc a lesser orc
Match KBorc burrow orc
Match Huntr%c Obvious paths:
Match Huntr%c Obvious exits:
Matchwait


Also here isn't the only thing it can say, same with "obvious paths" it can also say "obvious exits"