Dissidia (PSP).

[Liberi Fatali]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f2/Dissidia_Cover.jpg

I can't believe no one has mentioned this game yet. Is anyone else interested in it? I don't have a PSP yet, but I plan on buying one just for this (as well as for the FFT remake that was released a bit ago).

Good Guys Include:

"Warrior of light" - Final Fantasy.
Firion - Final Fantasy II
Onion Knight - Final Fantasy III.
Cecil - FFIV.
Bartz - FFV.
Terra - FFVI.
Cloud - FFVII
Squall - FFVIII
Zidane - FFIX
Tidus - FFX
Shantotto - FFXI
Cosmos - Dissidia.

Bad Guys Include:
Garland - Final Fantasy.
The Emperor - FFII.
Cloud of Darkness - FFIII.
Golbez - Final Fantasy IV
Exdeath - Final Fantasy V
Kefka Palazzo - Final Fantasy VI
Sephiroth - Final Fantasy VII
Ultimecia - Final Fantasy VIII
Kuja - Final Fantasy IX
Jecht - Final Fantasy X
Gabranth - Final Fantasy XII
Chaos - Dissidia

Maybe more, I'm not certain.

http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/884/884724/final-fantasy-dissidia-20080626021319300_640w.jpg

http://i341.photobucket.com/albums/o397/avrilfan_05/Final%20Fantasy/cg4qy4.jpg

[SayGoodbye]

Been following it off and on as they released more of the character profiles. It looks awesome.

[Revalos]

I'll be getting it too. I just beat FFT for the first time ever (yes...sad I know, but I never owned a playstation so I had to wait for the PSP version) and I love it on the PSP.

If you haven't got a PSP yet, I'd suggest waiting for the PSP GO in October as opposed to buying one now and then having it be obsolete when the GO comes out. Unless you want to do homebrew, but still waiting would be good since the UMD based PSPs will drop in price quickly.

[Liberi Fatali]

I'll be getting it too. I just beat FFT for the first time ever (yes...sad I know, but I never owned a playstation so I had to wait for the PSP version) and I love it on the PSP.

If you haven't got a PSP yet, I'd suggest waiting for the PSP GO in October as opposed to buying one now and then having it be obsolete when the GO comes out. Unless you want to do homebrew, but still waiting would be good since the UMD based PSPs will drop in price quickly.

REVALOS. You are my hero, sir.

I am literally clueless about the PSP. What are the current ones available, and what is this new one you speak of? Can you elaborate on what exactly a PSP will do, and what each of them does?

I saw a "mini" one that was like $40 cheaper than all the rest, which is what I was going to get.

PLEASE EXPLAIN FOR ME?!

For everyone else: I should have titled this fucking thread as "KEFKA VERSUS SEPHIROTH". No one is looking at it because it looks like a retarded thread.

[The Ponzzz]

Kefka would win, hands down.

However, I won't be picking this up. I refuse to buy a PSP. The only thing that could change that is if FFXIII's PSP game is worth it for the story.

[Revalos]

OK, here's the lowdown:

PSP Fat (Model number PSP-1000) is the oldest one. It has a slow processor and the speakers are weirdly placed, but it does have an IR port. It takes Pro Duo memory sticks (they are availiable up to 16GB right now), Sony's proprietary UMD games and movies, and all of the versions have a USB connection. All PSPs have 802.11B wireless capability. You can install Sony's most up to date software on it or homebrew without any problem. I don't think any retail place sells them anymore, you'd probably have to go on Ebay to get one, but it should be pretty cheap, around $120 if you look I'd bet.

PSP Slim (Model number PSP-2000) is the first updated hardware. It has a good processor and the speakers are moved to the front. It also usually has no issues installing homebrew firmware and has the port for the memory sticks(you have to check the motherboard number). You can still get these from a lot of places I bet, but major retailers will be trying to sell you the next one if you can find one, you can probably get it for $179 or less.

PSP Lite (Model number PSP-3000) is the most current one. It has a brighter screen and weighs less but not much else was improved. It is not as easy to hack to update firmware as the previous models, but still has the memory stick port. It should be availiable from almost any retailer for $199.

PSP GO (which may be the "mini" that you are talking about) is what is coming out in October. It will have no UMD drive, and once it comes out everything game-wise will be done using the PSN store (hopefully Sony will have a trade-in program for UMDs so I can get my games as downloads). It has a 16GB internal hard drive, unknown if it has a port for pro duo cards like the others or something else. It won't have a USB port, instead it'll have some kind of ridiculous Sony proprietary connector. It will be retailing for $249 and offers no kind of improvement over the previous PSPs.

Anyway, I'm on the fence about the new PSP versus the older ones. I've broken the USB drive on mine, so I may purchase it, but I'll have to see how the UMD trade in works.

[radamanthys]

Sounds like they're trying to control pirating- which usually makes for a crippled POS.

Especially with Sony.

[Liberi Fatali]

OK, here's the lowdown:

PSP Fat (Model number PSP-1000) is the oldest one. It has a slow processor and the speakers are weirdly placed, but it does have an IR port. It takes Pro Duo memory sticks (they are availiable up to 16GB right now), Sony's proprietary UMD games and movies, and all of the versions have a USB connection. All PSPs have 802.11B wireless capability. You can install Sony's most up to date software on it or homebrew without any problem. I don't think any retail place sells them anymore, you'd probably have to go on Ebay to get one, but it should be pretty cheap, around $120 if you look I'd bet.

PSP Slim (Model number PSP-2000) is the first updated hardware. It has a good processor and the speakers are moved to the front. It also usually has no issues installing homebrew firmware and has the port for the memory sticks(you have to check the motherboard number). You can still get these from a lot of places I bet, but major retailers will be trying to sell you the next one if you can find one, you can probably get it for $179 or less.

PSP Lite (Model number PSP-3000) is the most current one. It has a brighter screen and weighs less but not much else was improved. It is not as easy to hack to update firmware as the previous models, but still has the memory stick port. It should be availiable from almost any retailer for $199.

PSP GO (which may be the "mini" that you are talking about) is what is coming out in October. It will have no UMD drive, and once it comes out everything game-wise will be done using the PSN store (hopefully Sony will have a trade-in program for UMDs so I can get my games as downloads). It has a 16GB internal hard drive, unknown if it has a port for pro duo cards like the others or something else. It won't have a USB port, instead it'll have some kind of ridiculous Sony proprietary connector. It will be retailing for $249 and offers no kind of improvement over the previous PSPs.

Anyway, I'm on the fence about the new PSP versus the older ones. I've broken the USB drive on mine, so I may purchase it, but I'll have to see how the UMD trade in works.

So right now the best one to get is the slim? What does UMD stand for, as well?

[Revalos]

UMD stands for Universal Media Disc. A proprietary Sony CD/DVD disc format about the size of those Mini-CDs. There are no UMD burners, so basically you either have to use the PSN, get homebrew backup roms, or purchase them from the few retailers that still carry them (although I have been lucky finding them really cheap from a lot of places).

They stopped making UMD movies for everything but SONY pictures anymore, so really it is just a game format.

The slim is probably the best unless you are planning on playing outside a lot to need the brighter screen. Especially since you can get a big enough flash memory stick that will make the PSP slim just as good as the GO when it comes out.

[RelentlessJew]

I have been a long time fan of the FF series.

I bought a PS1 when FF7 came out.

I bought a PS2 when FFX came out.

I already own a PSP, but I'm not sure I'm getting this game.

Frankly, I have noticed a decline in the material that Squenix (SquareEnix) has been publishing lately.

It started with FFX, in my opinon. That game was crap. It did not make ANY sense at all. It wasn't deep, it wasn't spiritual, it wasn't ephemeral, it wasn't a revelation... it was fucking tripe from start to finish.


FFXI was an online game, and I played that too. Unfortunately, when it was released in america, 90% of the people playing were japanese people that were already at the level cap - and it was hard or impossible to advance past level 20, let alone do any of the quests (like for multi-classing) without a group. So.. fail.

FFXII was a breath of fresh air to me. Though, the combat system was more like FFXI and while I can deal with that... I do prefer turn-based combat in my RPGs. I don't want to have to work that hard - it's why I play an RPG. It's supposed to be a tropical-drink game.

From what I've seen so far of FFXIII and this Dissidia thing... they're way off the mark of what made everything about 1-9 good, what made tactics good. Hell, even what made Vagrant Story (which has some loose ties to the FF universe) good.

At this point, they have lost their reign as my number 1 favorite game developer. This has been replaced with Konami.. whom, if they ever release a Suikoden 6 for the PS3... I will finally break down and buy me a 400 dollar machine... and a TV again (since I don't own one of those anymore).

[The Ponzzz]

I have been a long time fan of the FF series.

I bought a PS1 when FF7 came out.

I bought a PS2 when FFX came out.

I already own a PSP, but I'm not sure I'm getting this game.

Frankly, I have noticed a decline in the material that Squenix (SquareEnix) has been publishing lately.

It started with FFX, in my opinon. That game was crap. It did not make ANY sense at all. It wasn't deep, it wasn't spiritual, it wasn't ephemeral, it wasn't a revelation... it was fucking tripe from start to finish.


FFXI was an online game, and I played that too. Unfortunately, when it was released in america, 90% of the people playing were japanese people that were already at the level cap - and it was hard or impossible to advance past level 20, let alone do any of the quests (like for multi-classing) without a group. So.. fail.

FFXII was a breath of fresh air to me. Though, the combat system was more like FFXI and while I can deal with that... I do prefer turn-based combat in my RPGs. I don't want to have to work that hard - it's why I play an RPG. It's supposed to be a tropical-drink game.

From what I've seen so far of FFXIII and this Dissidia thing... they're way off the mark of what made everything about 1-9 good, what made tactics good. Hell, even what made Vagrant Story (which has some loose ties to the FF universe) good.

At this point, they have lost their reign as my number 1 favorite game developer. This has been replaced with Konami.. whom, if they ever release a Suikoden 6 for the PS3... I will finally break down and buy me a 400 dollar machine... and a TV again (since I don't own one of those anymore).

FF isn't a series, it's a franchise.

As for Vagrant Story, I think it is one of their best games. FFXII, Tactics and VS are all on Ivalice. FFXII references locations in VS as well as the Riskbreakers, and I believe Tactics does as well. According to everything I could find, the timeline would be something like Tactics > Vagrant Story > FFXII. But it gets iffy between VS and 12.

But Final Fantasy lost its roots at 7. Seven is a good game, and I hate that it was the start of the end for games with great stories, but it happened. Once it got big, it went downhill. Though FF6 is when they introduced more tech, so some can say 6 was the begin of the end.

/ramble

[RelentlessJew]

FF isn't a series, it's a franchise.

Truth. Like the SaGa games (which are ALL BAD)

It was late, I was tired. My mommy didn't check my post for clarity for me.

Also, I would put the Front Mission games up there with VS. Both deliver good story/gameplay/action and do so consistently. Unfortunately there was never another VS game. Front Mission, last I knew, saw up to 4 titles, each one progressively better and better.

As for the decline of the FF franchise, it could've been six, it could've been seven, but FOR SURE it was 8. 8 was like 10... it was all a big :wtf: fest

Which in the end, left me feeling like the guy on the left here >> :club:

In the end, 9 tried it's best to recapture some of what had been lost, and it did a good job. I still <3 9.

By the time 10 rolled around though - clearly they had too many of whoever those people were that thought this type of game was a good idea working for them. Then they shoved all those geeks off onto 11, and locked them away for eternity making 'updates'.

[The Ponzzz]

Well, the reason I point at 6 and 7 is do to the "tech" introduced. Because FF6 is a 16 bit title, we don't think of the game being high end, like 7. But 6 and 7 are quite similiar with their technology. Seven is just responsible for the the Final Fantasy title going from just the common RPer to opening the door as a title anyone could enjoy.

Now, you may think I'm crazy for saying that, but that's when I feel it stopped being about the stories and diffculty and where it started to just be a franchise to sell. FFXIII has nothing to do with any other FF title, yet, we get excited for its release because it's "FINAL FANTASY!!!!"

And it shows, because look at Square Enix other titles they point out over the last few years that are non-FF games. Flops. Because graphics alone can't sell a good RPG.

[Drakefang]

I'm on the other side of the fence from most of you guys. I started with FF7 and thoroughly enjoyed 8...never played 9, liked 10, X-2 was...fun to play for me but had no backbone, and loved 12. I thought FFT was probably the best game I've played on PSP and FFCC was excellent but too repetitive with the missions and should've extended the game some while removing a big chunk of those (ideally).

It sounds like you guys are traditionalists when it comes to the FF line. Before I'd go out to buy FF1-6 I'd want to know if a non-traditionalist would like em as much. Maybe starting with 9 would be the better route and see if that holds my interest?

What's the general idea with Dissidia? Is it just a fighting game in the FF universe?

[The Ponzzz]

If you start at 7, then 8 and 10 are enjoyable. You are actually their model customer.

Nine and everything below 7 is the "other" side on the FF Franchise.

[Fallen]

It would be cool to see them split the series. One following the old school brand, maybe online DS and PSP releases, and that new crap 7 on started on mainstream consoles.

It worked awesomely for Castlevania. You have these BADASS side scroller games, all on the DS and the like.

[radamanthys]

If they remade 7 with today's tech, it would sell fantastically. Why do they not?